I will just wait and see in couple of months i still say Darkfall have potential if they do something about alignment system towers and cheating if not i wont play.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
What life shows us is that high competitve games/rewards always will have cheating.
They will have to show how to limit it.
I have not tested darkfall, but for the afk macroing with magic. My guess is it is only feasible as long as you don't use reagents. When reagents cost something maybe the 'richer' players will afk macro the rest will probably rather want some reward for burning through reagents?
At the moment I am not sure if for skillbased games a timelimit for gains is not the best system EVE and UO's Siege had to introduce it to avoid exploits
Sad to read this Evasia. 6 years waiting for your dream game to be disappointed at end it’s not a good thing.
I have not played the game and sincerely in between the big contradictions and strong feelings that arose from the writes of beta testers, it’s difficult to me to build an opinion.
I was really interested in try Darkfall, because I have never played a game like this.
I thought, still I think, Darkfall project is, may be, the most ambitious project in terms of game play I have seen around in several years. May be too much for the team developing it.
I hope for you and all the Darkfall followers that in the next months they will be able to address the problems and deliver what the prospect said. I don’t know if at end it will be a game for me, I’ll kep one eye on it but I’m sure the MMORPGs market needs a game like this, if not Darkfall, sooner or later it will come.
While it happens I’m going back to my boring Asian grind feast to see if after some months of holidays I can get again some of the old fun.
Again I’m sorry Darkfall disappointed you Evasia, I know you were waiting for it with a lot of hope.
When i said evasia, that the primary reason i would not play (other than aventurine) is the community, you are going to be getting a small taste of it. Hopefully you enjoy your journey, and find something which you do enjoy.
Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans. But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.
It s hard for me as a beta tester not to respond to rabid fanbois, that will not tell the truth about the game as it is. I ve seen it, you have others from beta have. I ll usually attack right back or sound rude, to those rabid ones because they re spreading only stuff they know will please the un informed. You however make it easy for me to fel sorry for. I feel bad that the game you were so looking forward to turned into something you didn t envision. I thank you for this post as I hope it will show people on the fence or not sure much about the game the truth of it.
Sorry for you Evasia, because you wanted to play this game but i can say i'm not surprised at all. What else could we expect from an un professional project ? This is not Ultima. (41 years old and I started to play RPG games with Ultima...)
I kindve figured this would turn into a macro/cheating fest. I remember in UO all people used to do was macro skills and after a week got max skill. I'm surprised as no one else has really touched on this in any of their reviews. I'm not sure if they are just blind or don't care that people macro? If it's true then once the game comes out people will start to care that everyone is cheating.
My one friend who was in beta 2 weeks ago was last time I talked to him. Last thing he said to me was he was going to go make a macro and /afk while he gets his skills up. I was like wtf and he hasn't been back since.
Well it have alot of potential and game looks great but as i mentioned its just not finished and macro/exploit heaven. This game you can't comepare with UO/SB thats rediculas these are old and awefull looking games in 2D, plus SB had many bugs. Darkfall is super stable and it runs smooth i never had lag or crash or ahad slow down even with many fighting around me. Its Alignment system towers empty world simple gameplay and cheating i dont like plus its almost 100% favor for pk not anti.
"Clanmate training through sparring may be free of alignment hits, but macroing isn't advisable. First of all, you don't get to learn to play your character and this is probably as (or even more) important than raising your skills. If that doesn't convince you, we have ways of detecting macroing, and macroers will be banned."
Macroing is not allowed and will be dealt with lol.
The mobs are not all in yet which has been stated repeatedly by the devs. There are many static spawns simply for beta. On launch there will be a great deal more mobs in the world.
I want to address some of your concerns real quick:
* We recently added one guard tower to each faction quest hub. There are only three faction quest hubs in each racial territory, so they have little impact on gameplay, other than offering some protection for players who just started playing the game.
* There are no additional guard towers planned.
* We know that at least one tower was wrongly placed close to a chaos stone, and it will be removed shortly.
* As far as rogue/alignment mechanics go, we are looking at various improvements to the system. Keep in mind that at release you can only have ONE character, so the majority of the playerbase may play the game differently than they do in beta.
* We are currently testing functionality that will give city owners more control over when they can be challenged."
If this is your first time in a beta then I guess you are unaware Launch is not the same as Beta. Beta is a testing phase, things are tested, tweaked, fixed, removed, added, changed all together continuosly. Not everything is turned on, and many times never is durring a beta.
In any case, I hope you find a game you enjoy as much as I enjoy DarkFall, considering your issue's have already been addressed or are being addressed and you made a post like this, then these clearly are not the reasons for you leaving.
ya the vacancy of mobs I can live with. Poor animations, I can live with. Hearing that macro skill ups are alive and well in this game is my biggest deterent. I kept one eye on this game since I heard about it, but Im gonna pass on it. Its nothing what I thought it was going to be in a FFA pvp game...and no matter how much people convince themselves.. its absolutely not shadowbane OR Ultima Online. Not even a shell of it
So u dont want to play the game because u think its going to be a macro fest, ok.
THEN u say its not going to be Shadowbane or UO...
THAT is funny to me, remembering the hours upon hours of boat macroing I did in UO, not to mention the ONLY way to lvl up in Shadowbane, hanging a lock...
Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment. Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs. Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand. Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro. Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two max out many skills and have it all. Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks. Craft click click click click magic shoot mm into air for few days afk. Sprint into walls for few days afk Craft afk. Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up. This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:( And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week. There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas. Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.
Wait a few months? If 6+ years wasn't enough time to make a successful game why do you think they can turn it around in a few months?
lmao.....too true. AV has had 6-8 years to release a polished game. Far more time than most if not all other mmorpgs. Yeah, they're an indie company, not much money, blah, blah blah.....if you can't release a polished game in 6-8 years how much time do you need? geez
I think the current state of the game says alot about AV as a dev team and what can be expected from them in the future considering how long they've had to get things right. Unless they believe things are right which is a more problemlatic situation and scary.
People will macro, bot, and exploit to try and get ahead. It's nothing new.
Not sure what the suprise is, or why some try to make it sound like it's just an issue with DF.
My brother used to write macros and scripts for UO, and Diablo 2. And from what I've heard macroing in is, or was, pretty rampant in that game; along with exploits.
I used to kill bots in Lineage 2
You can find bots all over the place in WoW. Not to mention exploiting.
Hell, people are exploiting in CoD: World at War on the 360.
There are people that are dedicated beta testers and spend lots of time on test servers just so they can learn the exploits before they go live.
No developer can make a 100% cheat free game, I don't care what kind of guard they build. There is always someone out there that will find a way to breaks some mechanic or write some code that anti cheat software can't detect, and there will always be people who are willing to use these cheats to thier advantage.
So be it.
At least I have the choice in games like L2 and DF. Kill the cheats while they're afk cheating.
Go ahead and macro harvest. Some people seem to find harvesting tedious and boring. Works for me. I'll have more fun killing the guy that's marcro harvesting and getting mats that way.
Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans. But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.
Well,To be truthful, I was hoping that darkfall would come out likethe devs said too. ): My husband was excited, told me they've been making it for like...7 years or something and that it'll be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
And then I saw the leaks..and was like...wtf..I've been waiting for this game for a few years and omni waited since it was first announce about it being made. ):
I'm pissed because it's such a craptastic game. What happened to what it was supposed to be?
Omni still wants to try it in a few months, see if it's any better. I don't. I feel it flopping already.
This game will flop hardcore. ._.;;
Oh and a message for Darkstar. because he's everywhere so it doesn't matter where I post this.
By the way. Thanks, Darkstar for getting my IP address banned for two days and then my account deleted. Thanks.
I hope you get a hardcore virus from your inbox. </ /3
By the way, still think you're paid.
And now I hate you.
Really really hate you.
Thanks.
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There are cheaters in just about every game. People will macro, bot, and exploit to try and get ahead. It's nothing new.
Not sure what the suprise is, or why some try to make it sound like it's just an issue with DF. My brother used to write macros and scripts for UO, and Diablo 2. And from what I've heard macroing in is, or was, pretty rampant in that game; along with exploits.
I used to kill bots in Lineage 2
You can find bots all over the place in WoW. Not to mention exploiting.
Hell, people are exploiting in CoD: World at War on the 360. There are people that are dedicated beta testers and spend lots of time on test servers just so they can learn the exploits before they go live. No developer can make a 100% cheat free game, I don't care what kind of guard they build. There is always someone out there that will find a way to breaks some mechanic or write some code that anti cheat software can't detect, and there will always be people who are willing to use these cheats to thier advantage. So be it.
At least I have the choice in games like L2 and DF. Kill the cheats while they're afk cheating.
Go ahead and macro harvest. Some people seem to find harvesting tedious and boring. Works for me. I'll have more fun killing the guy that's marcro harvesting and getting mats that way.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
There are cheaters in just about every game. People will macro, bot, and exploit to try and get ahead. It's nothing new.
Not sure what the suprise is, or why some try to make it sound like it's just an issue with DF. My brother used to write macros and scripts for UO, and Diablo 2. And from what I've heard macroing in is, or was, pretty rampant in that game; along with exploits.
I used to kill bots in Lineage 2
You can find bots all over the place in WoW. Not to mention exploiting.
Hell, people are exploiting in CoD: World at War on the 360. There are people that are dedicated beta testers and spend lots of time on test servers just so they can learn the exploits before they go live. No developer can make a 100% cheat free game, I don't care what kind of guard they build. There is always someone out there that will find a way to breaks some mechanic or write some code that anti cheat software can't detect, and there will always be people who are willing to use these cheats to thier advantage. So be it.
At least I have the choice in games like L2 and DF. Kill the cheats while they're afk cheating.
Go ahead and macro harvest. Some people seem to find harvesting tedious and boring. Works for me. I'll have more fun killing the guy that's marcro harvesting and getting mats that way.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
So you are saying that everyone that macro's will get banned. If that is true then the game will evolve into a boring resource gathering game that everyone will be forced to do manually.
No need to macro skills because it does not give you a big advantage over new players. So the game will come down to just ganking and PKing.......aka CS knife fight.
Sorry I just don't see the long term fun in this game.
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Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans. But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.
Well,To be truthful, I was hoping that darkfall would come out likethe devs said too. ): My husband was excited, told me they've been making it for like...7 years or something and that it'll be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
And then I saw the leaks..and was like...wtf..I've been waiting for this game for a few years and omni waited since it was first announce about it being made. ):
I'm pissed because it's such a craptastic game. What happened to what it was supposed to be?
Omni still wants to try it in a few months, see if it's any better. I don't. I feel it flopping already.
This game will flop hardcore. ._.;;
Oh and a message for Darkstar. because he's everywhere so it doesn't matter where I post this.
By the way. Thanks, Darkstar for getting my IP address banned for two days and then my account deleted. Thanks.
I hope you get a hardcore virus from your inbox. </ /3
By the way, still think you're paid.
And now I hate you.
Really really hate you.
Thanks.
Got you banned? Huh? At any rate all his chatter wont obscure a "FAIL" if that is in fact the fate of DF.
There are cheaters in just about every game. People will macro, bot, and exploit to try and get ahead. It's nothing new.
Not sure what the suprise is, or why some try to make it sound like it's just an issue with DF. My brother used to write macros and scripts for UO, and Diablo 2. And from what I've heard macroing in is, or was, pretty rampant in that game; along with exploits.
I used to kill bots in Lineage 2
You can find bots all over the place in WoW. Not to mention exploiting.
Hell, people are exploiting in CoD: World at War on the 360. There are people that are dedicated beta testers and spend lots of time on test servers just so they can learn the exploits before they go live. No developer can make a 100% cheat free game, I don't care what kind of guard they build. There is always someone out there that will find a way to breaks some mechanic or write some code that anti cheat software can't detect, and there will always be people who are willing to use these cheats to thier advantage. So be it.
At least I have the choice in games like L2 and DF. Kill the cheats while they're afk cheating.
Go ahead and macro harvest. Some people seem to find harvesting tedious and boring. Works for me. I'll have more fun killing the guy that's marcro harvesting and getting mats that way.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
So you are saying that everyone that macro's will get banned. If that is true then the game will evolve into a boring resource gathering game that everyone will be forced to do manually.
No need to macro skills because it does not give you a big advantage over new players. So the game will come down to just ganking and PKing.......aka CS knife fight.
Sorry I just don't see the long term fun in this game.
No they won't ban everyone, just enough to make a point as every other game has done which of course doesn't work.
The skill gains aren't completely useless there just not an I Win like in other games. Being a vet does not equate to I Win in DFO.
If you don't see the long term fun, then so be it. Many do, myself included. I wish you well on finding a game you like.
Darkfall will be just like UO where you can macro/bot your skills to max, but not all skills will be very easy to max, just like with gm resist in UO. :P That took like a year for hardcore gamers to max out! Same will apply to DF. Some skills like Lesser Magic will be easy to raise up, but other skills will b e much more difficult and time consuming. Your not going to see a 5x 100 person for at least few months, depending on what skills he chooses, you can guarantee that..
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Evasia if what you write in this post is not an attempt of sarcasm i must admit i'm shocked....... Of all people i wasn't expecting to see such a post from one of the more loyal followers of Darkfall,however if you were being sarcastic i must admit you had me you are even better at it than Polarization.... Still if you mean what you wrote the only thing i can tell you is "see you in Earthrise or MO, whichever comes first"
OMG an admitted hardcore Darkfall loyalist realized the game is actually very simple, and uses FACTS to back up his claims!!!! I don't even see how facts can count as sarcasm... Anyways from the OP's post this game sounds like garbage.
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Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment. Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs. Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand. Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro. Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two max out many skills and have it all. Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks. Craft click click click click magic shoot mm into air for few days afk. Sprint into walls for few days afk Craft afk. Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up. This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:( And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week. There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas. Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.
Thanks for being honest, Evasia. You have always been one of the more rational Darkfall fans.
The game they are releasing is not what was promised, and the statements about the development status and features of the game were not honest. They said they started beta in 2003, yeah, right. This is the vaporware end game, they will see how many people they can string along with subscriptions using what has essentially been a bait and switch.... Many of the fan boys are too afraid to be embarassed that they were so excited, they don't want to lose face, so they say "Oh, this game is awesome, I can't wait to buy it." This is how bait and switch always works, it takes advantage of the human instinct for saving face, so that when the person finally gets down to the bottom line they feel they have invested too much of their own ego already to pull out of the deal. Anyways....
I have slapped you around a couple times when you were over the top as a fawnboi but to see your humility now and your honesty I actually feel rather bad about it.
My sincerest condolences on DnF not being what you thought it would be and I seriously hope you find what you are looking for.
BTW you can share the popcorn with the rest of us as we watch this slow motion train wreck
Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment. Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs. Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand. Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro. Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two max out many skills and have it all. Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks. Craft click click click click magic shoot mm into air for few days afk. Sprint into walls for few days afk Craft afk. Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up. This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:( And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week. There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas. Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.
Thanks for being honest, Evasia. You have always been one of the more rational Darkfall fans.
The game they are releasing is not what was promised, and the statements about the development status and features of the game were not honest. They said they started beta in 2003, yeah, right. This is the vaporware end game, they will see how many people they can string along with subscriptions using what has essentially been a bait and switch.... Many of the fan boys are too afraid to be embarassed that they were so excited, they don't want to lose face, so they say "Oh, this game is awesome, I can't wait to buy it." This is how bait and switch always works, it takes advantage of the human instinct for saving face, so that when the person finally gets down to the bottom line they feel they have invested too much of their own ego already to pull out of the deal. Anyways....
lol keep trying mate, you guys are doing a Custards last stand with the same odds lol. Sorry NDA is lifted now, no one has to keep there cards close to there chest. The, "You're just going by blind faith" kind of statements don't fly lol, the only reason it did so long is because most of us couldn't prove what we were saying only because of the NDA lol. Thats no longer the case.
The game is missing next to no promised features. So your better off finding a different thing to complain about. The trolls weren't right lol. So good luck convincing anyone of that lol.
You keep holding on to that blind faith in it being some Vaporware scam lol. I wish you well mate. I would find something better to do with my life, rather than try and debate about things you don't know with people that have the actual information since well, we have been and are in beta lol. But it's your life, if you wish to spend on something so futile then be my guess. Keep the laughs comming.
From looking at the videos on youtube, I'd call this game vaporware. The gameplay is ridiculous, it seemed like you just run through the world and gank people without much strategy. So pretty much the graphics are horrible (even for an mmo standard), the gameplay looks horrible, and judging from the community and earthrise dev chat, the community of the game is full of fanboys.
Though you can be sure I'll still give this game a try when it comes out and don't wish for any hostility, trying my best at constructive criticism.
Also: yay 500 posts, and I could totally see the game turning into .//hack.
lol keep trying mate, you guys are doing a Custards last stand with the same odds lol. Sorry NDA is lifted now, no one has to keep there cards close to there chest. The, "You're just going by blind faith" kind of statements don't fly lol, the only reason it did so long is because most of us couldn't prove what we were saying only because of the NDA lol. Thats no longer the case.
The game is missing next to no promised features. So your better off finding a different thing to complain about. The trolls weren't right lol. So good luck convincing anyone of that lol.
You keep holding on to that blind faith in it being some Vaporware scam lol. I wish you well mate. I would find something better to do with my life, rather than try and debate about things you don't know with people that have the actual information since well, we have been and are in beta lol. But it's your life, if you wish to spend on something so futile then be my guess. Keep the laughs comming.
Everything promised and still listed on the web site is in game and working perfectly and is not false advertising at all. Just you WoWz care bears can't see it since you are so ignorant about how 733t a FFA PVP game is.
What kind of Custard did the 7th have at Little Bighorn? Vanilla, Butterscotch?
BTW ever hear of the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)? DnL sure did........hint.....hint....
Well honestly I haven't played this game and as i have before i would give it a shot if the cost was not 50 euros, hell i even signed up for beta last night even though less than 5 days remain. But here's the thing, someone who is in beta needs to fucking show us the large scale naval battles , that was an interesting feature to me... let's see it. And darkfall talked about their revolutionary skill advancement but from everything I have heard, even from long time fans and beta players is that all you do to skill up is use a skill, and you can use a skill even when there are no enemies around!!!!!!!! So as it has been said all you do is essentially macro this skill to go off until it levels up. That is some of the most retarded shit I have ever heard. Sorry.
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I will just wait and see in couple of months i still say Darkfall have potential if they do something about alignment system towers and cheating if not i wont play.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
What life shows us is that high competitve games/rewards always will have cheating.
They will have to show how to limit it.
I have not tested darkfall, but for the afk macroing with magic. My guess is it is only feasible as long as you don't use reagents. When reagents cost something maybe the 'richer' players will afk macro the rest will probably rather want some reward for burning through reagents?
At the moment I am not sure if for skillbased games a timelimit for gains is not the best system EVE and UO's Siege had to introduce it to avoid exploits
Sad to read this Evasia. 6 years waiting for your dream game to be disappointed at end it’s not a good thing.
I have not played the game and sincerely in between the big contradictions and strong feelings that arose from the writes of beta testers, it’s difficult to me to build an opinion.
I was really interested in try Darkfall, because I have never played a game like this.
I thought, still I think, Darkfall project is, may be, the most ambitious project in terms of game play I have seen around in several years. May be too much for the team developing it.
I hope for you and all the Darkfall followers that in the next months they will be able to address the problems and deliver what the prospect said. I don’t know if at end it will be a game for me, I’ll kep one eye on it but I’m sure the MMORPGs market needs a game like this, if not Darkfall, sooner or later it will come.
While it happens I’m going back to my boring Asian grind feast to see if after some months of holidays I can get again some of the old fun.
Again I’m sorry Darkfall disappointed you Evasia, I know you were waiting for it with a lot of hope.
When i said evasia, that the primary reason i would not play (other than aventurine) is the community, you are going to be getting a small taste of it. Hopefully you enjoy your journey, and find something which you do enjoy.
It s hard for me as a beta tester not to respond to rabid fanbois, that will not tell the truth about the game as it is. I ve seen it, you have others from beta have. I ll usually attack right back or sound rude, to those rabid ones because they re spreading only stuff they know will please the un informed. You however make it easy for me to fel sorry for. I feel bad that the game you were so looking forward to turned into something you didn t envision. I thank you for this post as I hope it will show people on the fence or not sure much about the game the truth of it.
Thank you
Sorry for you Evasia, because you wanted to play this game but i can say i'm not surprised at all. What else could we expect from an un professional project ? This is not Ultima. (41 years old and I started to play RPG games with Ultima...)
I kindve figured this would turn into a macro/cheating fest. I remember in UO all people used to do was macro skills and after a week got max skill. I'm surprised as no one else has really touched on this in any of their reviews. I'm not sure if they are just blind or don't care that people macro? If it's true then once the game comes out people will start to care that everyone is cheating.
My one friend who was in beta 2 weeks ago was last time I talked to him. Last thing he said to me was he was going to go make a macro and /afk while he gets his skills up. I was like wtf and he hasn't been back since.
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
"Clanmate training through sparring may be free of alignment hits, but macroing isn't advisable. First of all, you don't get to learn to play your character and this is probably as (or even more) important than raising your skills. If that doesn't convince you, we have ways of detecting macroing, and macroers will be banned."
Macroing is not allowed and will be dealt with lol.
The mobs are not all in yet which has been stated repeatedly by the devs. There are many static spawns simply for beta. On launch there will be a great deal more mobs in the world.
The rouge and alignment system is being worked on
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
"Hi everyone,
I want to address some of your concerns real quick:
* We recently added one guard tower to each faction quest hub. There are only three faction quest hubs in each racial territory, so they have little impact on gameplay, other than offering some protection for players who just started playing the game.
* There are no additional guard towers planned.
* We know that at least one tower was wrongly placed close to a chaos stone, and it will be removed shortly.
* As far as rogue/alignment mechanics go, we are looking at various improvements to the system. Keep in mind that at release you can only have ONE character, so the majority of the playerbase may play the game differently than they do in beta.
* We are currently testing functionality that will give city owners more control over when they can be challenged."
If this is your first time in a beta then I guess you are unaware Launch is not the same as Beta. Beta is a testing phase, things are tested, tweaked, fixed, removed, added, changed all together continuosly. Not everything is turned on, and many times never is durring a beta.
In any case, I hope you find a game you enjoy as much as I enjoy DarkFall, considering your issue's have already been addressed or are being addressed and you made a post like this, then these clearly are not the reasons for you leaving.
Well for months you have been viciously attacking all people who were skeptical about this game.
I hope you will learn from your mistakes.
So u dont want to play the game because u think its going to be a macro fest, ok.
THEN u say its not going to be Shadowbane or UO...
THAT is funny to me, remembering the hours upon hours of boat macroing I did in UO, not to mention the ONLY way to lvl up in Shadowbane, hanging a lock...
-Darkstar
Wait a few months? If 6+ years wasn't enough time to make a successful game why do you think they can turn it around in a few months?
lmao.....too true. AV has had 6-8 years to release a polished game. Far more time than most if not all other mmorpgs. Yeah, they're an indie company, not much money, blah, blah blah.....if you can't release a polished game in 6-8 years how much time do you need? geez
I think the current state of the game says alot about AV as a dev team and what can be expected from them in the future considering how long they've had to get things right. Unless they believe things are right which is a more problemlatic situation and scary.
There are cheaters in just about every game.
People will macro, bot, and exploit to try and get ahead. It's nothing new.
Not sure what the suprise is, or why some try to make it sound like it's just an issue with DF.
My brother used to write macros and scripts for UO, and Diablo 2. And from what I've heard macroing in is, or was, pretty rampant in that game; along with exploits.
I used to kill bots in Lineage 2
You can find bots all over the place in WoW. Not to mention exploiting.
Hell, people are exploiting in CoD: World at War on the 360.
There are people that are dedicated beta testers and spend lots of time on test servers just so they can learn the exploits before they go live.
No developer can make a 100% cheat free game, I don't care what kind of guard they build. There is always someone out there that will find a way to breaks some mechanic or write some code that anti cheat software can't detect, and there will always be people who are willing to use these cheats to thier advantage.
So be it.
At least I have the choice in games like L2 and DF. Kill the cheats while they're afk cheating.
Go ahead and macro harvest. Some people seem to find harvesting tedious and boring. Works for me. I'll have more fun killing the guy that's marcro harvesting and getting mats that way.
Well,To be truthful, I was hoping that darkfall would come out likethe devs said too. ): My husband was excited, told me they've been making it for like...7 years or something and that it'll be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
And then I saw the leaks..and was like...wtf..I've been waiting for this game for a few years and omni waited since it was first announce about it being made. ):
I'm pissed because it's such a craptastic game.
What happened to what it was supposed to be?
Omni still wants to try it in a few months, see if it's any better. I don't. I feel it flopping already.
This game will flop hardcore. ._.;;
Oh and a message for Darkstar. because he's everywhere so it doesn't matter where I post this.
By the way. Thanks, Darkstar for getting my IP address banned for two days and then my account deleted.
Thanks.
I hope you get a hardcore virus from your inbox. </ /3
By the way, still think you're paid.
And now I hate you.
Really really hate you.
Thanks.
I can only hope Darkstar's computer gets so bugged and spammmed that he can't even turn on his computer long enough to see the power light come on.~ From Omni's (Travis') Wife, Karesta.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
So you are saying that everyone that macro's will get banned. If that is true then the game will evolve into a boring resource gathering game that everyone will be forced to do manually.
No need to macro skills because it does not give you a big advantage over new players. So the game will come down to just ganking and PKing.......aka CS knife fight.
Sorry I just don't see the long term fun in this game.
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Well,To be truthful, I was hoping that darkfall would come out likethe devs said too. ): My husband was excited, told me they've been making it for like...7 years or something and that it'll be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
And then I saw the leaks..and was like...wtf..I've been waiting for this game for a few years and omni waited since it was first announce about it being made. ):
I'm pissed because it's such a craptastic game.
What happened to what it was supposed to be?
Omni still wants to try it in a few months, see if it's any better. I don't. I feel it flopping already.
This game will flop hardcore. ._.;;
Oh and a message for Darkstar. because he's everywhere so it doesn't matter where I post this.
By the way. Thanks, Darkstar for getting my IP address banned for two days and then my account deleted.
Thanks.
I hope you get a hardcore virus from your inbox. </ /3
By the way, still think you're paid.
And now I hate you.
Really really hate you.
Thanks.
Got you banned? Huh? At any rate all his chatter wont obscure a "FAIL" if that is in fact the fate of DF.
I agree with the above.
To add to that though DFO seems to have taken it one step further though. With the exception of crafting Macroing doesn't even give you the edge those doing so are expecting. You can AFK macro and risk losing your char for a very mild advantage. The gap between new char and Vetteran char is so small that it isn't much of an issue.
So you are saying that everyone that macro's will get banned. If that is true then the game will evolve into a boring resource gathering game that everyone will be forced to do manually.
No need to macro skills because it does not give you a big advantage over new players. So the game will come down to just ganking and PKing.......aka CS knife fight.
Sorry I just don't see the long term fun in this game.
No they won't ban everyone, just enough to make a point as every other game has done which of course doesn't work.
The skill gains aren't completely useless there just not an I Win like in other games. Being a vet does not equate to I Win in DFO.
If you don't see the long term fun, then so be it. Many do, myself included. I wish you well on finding a game you like.
Darkfall will be just like UO where you can macro/bot your skills to max, but not all skills will be very easy to max, just like with gm resist in UO. :P That took like a year for hardcore gamers to max out! Same will apply to DF. Some skills like Lesser Magic will be easy to raise up, but other skills will b e much more difficult and time consuming. Your not going to see a 5x 100 person for at least few months, depending on what skills he chooses, you can guarantee that..
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
OMG an admitted hardcore Darkfall loyalist realized the game is actually very simple, and uses FACTS to back up his claims!!!! I don't even see how facts can count as sarcasm... Anyways from the OP's post this game sounds like garbage.
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Thanks for being honest, Evasia. You have always been one of the more rational Darkfall fans.
It just goes to underline my whole point, that Darkfall really was vaporware and almost everything the trolls said has already been proven true: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/223997/Darkfall-WAS-vaporware-the-trolls-were-right.html
The game they are releasing is not what was promised, and the statements about the development status and features of the game were not honest. They said they started beta in 2003, yeah, right. This is the vaporware end game, they will see how many people they can string along with subscriptions using what has essentially been a bait and switch.... Many of the fan boys are too afraid to be embarassed that they were so excited, they don't want to lose face, so they say "Oh, this game is awesome, I can't wait to buy it." This is how bait and switch always works, it takes advantage of the human instinct for saving face, so that when the person finally gets down to the bottom line they feel they have invested too much of their own ego already to pull out of the deal. Anyways....
The one and only.
Evasia,
I have slapped you around a couple times when you were over the top as a fawnboi but to see your humility now and your honesty I actually feel rather bad about it.
My sincerest condolences on DnF not being what you thought it would be and I seriously hope you find what you are looking for.
BTW you can share the popcorn with the rest of us as we watch this slow motion train wreck
Oh the memories of DnL's launch
Thanks for being honest, Evasia. You have always been one of the more rational Darkfall fans.
It just goes to underline my whole point, that Darkfall really was vaporware and almost everything the trolls said has already been proven true: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/223997/Darkfall-WAS-vaporware-the-trolls-were-right.html
The game they are releasing is not what was promised, and the statements about the development status and features of the game were not honest. They said they started beta in 2003, yeah, right. This is the vaporware end game, they will see how many people they can string along with subscriptions using what has essentially been a bait and switch.... Many of the fan boys are too afraid to be embarassed that they were so excited, they don't want to lose face, so they say "Oh, this game is awesome, I can't wait to buy it." This is how bait and switch always works, it takes advantage of the human instinct for saving face, so that when the person finally gets down to the bottom line they feel they have invested too much of their own ego already to pull out of the deal. Anyways....
lol keep trying mate, you guys are doing a Custards last stand with the same odds lol. Sorry NDA is lifted now, no one has to keep there cards close to there chest. The, "You're just going by blind faith" kind of statements don't fly lol, the only reason it did so long is because most of us couldn't prove what we were saying only because of the NDA lol. Thats no longer the case.
The game is missing next to no promised features. So your better off finding a different thing to complain about. The trolls weren't right lol. So good luck convincing anyone of that lol.
You keep holding on to that blind faith in it being some Vaporware scam lol. I wish you well mate. I would find something better to do with my life, rather than try and debate about things you don't know with people that have the actual information since well, we have been and are in beta lol. But it's your life, if you wish to spend on something so futile then be my guess. Keep the laughs comming.
From looking at the videos on youtube, I'd call this game vaporware. The gameplay is ridiculous, it seemed like you just run through the world and gank people without much strategy. So pretty much the graphics are horrible (even for an mmo standard), the gameplay looks horrible, and judging from the community and earthrise dev chat, the community of the game is full of fanboys.
Though you can be sure I'll still give this game a try when it comes out and don't wish for any hostility, trying my best at constructive criticism.
Also: yay 500 posts, and I could totally see the game turning into .//hack.
What kind of Custard did the 7th have at Little Bighorn? Vanilla, Butterscotch?
BTW ever hear of the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)? DnL sure did........hint.....hint....
Well honestly I haven't played this game and as i have before i would give it a shot if the cost was not 50 euros, hell i even signed up for beta last night even though less than 5 days remain. But here's the thing, someone who is in beta needs to fucking show us the large scale naval battles , that was an interesting feature to me... let's see it. And darkfall talked about their revolutionary skill advancement but from everything I have heard, even from long time fans and beta players is that all you do to skill up is use a skill, and you can use a skill even when there are no enemies around!!!!!!!! So as it has been said all you do is essentially macro this skill to go off until it levels up. That is some of the most retarded shit I have ever heard. Sorry.
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