Somehow we went from buying cash, to aim bots, to duping. I already said I have a problem with extreme twinking, duping is CLEARLY a more serious issue. My statement was directed at aim bots, and whether or not it is possible for a skilled player to use one for cheap thrills.
> normaly if u do it smart..u will never be banned
Actually, most dupers are dumbasses. I was a guide in EQLive - 99% of the dupers had a million PP or more on their lvl 50 toons. So, yes....they got banned for their stupidity. The ones that got nailed were usually using the same dupe bugs, and since all trades are logged and traceable, our GM would have a field day whenever a new dupe bug was discovered. All they had to do was search for large cash transfers and bingo....
Originally posted by p00ka Somehow we went from buying cash, to aim bots, to duping. I already said I have a problem with extreme twinking, duping is CLEARLY a more serious issue. My statement was directed at aim bots, and whether or not it is possible for a skilled player to use one for cheap thrills.> normaly if u do it smart..u will never be bannedActually, most dupers are dumbasses. I was a guide in EQLive - 99% of the dupers had a million PP or more on their lvl 50 toons. So, yes....they got banned for their stupidity. The ones that got nailed were usually using the same dupe bugs, and since all trades are logged and traceable, our GM would have a field day whenever a new dupe bug was discovered. All they had to do was search for large cash transfers and bingo....-pooka
extreme twinking is less prob than aimbot some ppl using 3rd progs as aimbot..some for dupe
btw if a duper isnt a dumbass u will never find him lol
Anyone that sells game items or game money to get RL cash should not only be banned but should be tied to a stake and given 20 lashes with a cat of nine tails. Sorry if this offends anyone but TOUGH.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
I knew several eq players that bought and sold items and plat for real cash. One of em was paying his rent with it while unemployed. I just bought and sold in game for uber gear. But, I want to explore strange new worlds. I want to ewwww and ahhhhh over brilliant landscapes and creatures. I wanna be running somewhere and a gaint SMASH me to the ground leaving me grumbling and laughing. I want virtual reality fantasy!
I was a prof. Trader on eq, I started in playing eq back when there was no uberness to be spoken of....This was not a problem. IT was not a problem until years down the road when the guy that had been playing since the beginning or the dupers had maxed out there bank accounts. Then went to alternative methods to get rid of the excess of cash. The logical thing to do was sell it. If the people that did not have the plat or gil or what ever to afford items then you could go make a deal with whomever did. Its kind of like talking to a loan shark or a bank for conversion of money. the only major difference is the conversion is from real cash to imaginary ( and that could be argued with about the imaginary part to some hehe)
My point is that though this affect s in game economy by boosting the prices of some items you can get alternate items for for cheaper out of the deal. So its a one hand washes another. You can't make all items cost more. So the few items that you do raise the price of balance out with a few other items dropping in price. Its only the strive to have the most uber of uber items that kills some people. If someone tells you that this particular tiem is the best for your class do you not think there are 10 more items that are close to as good or maybe better.
But lets look at Daoc some of the best items in the game are player made. If that was a major factor in more games then this would not be a problem either. I mean then anyone willing to trade skill up could make the gear they need it. It all comes down to how much time you are willing to put in. If you don't want to put in much time and twink your self then do it but people will know you will lack the skill to use the stuff you own. If you put in the time and effort to learn the skills and the ablities then no mater what your gear level you will be wanted in more groups better xp and yes of course better gear.
If a voice in your head tells you that you are not a painter, then by all means paint and that voice will be silent
Forwhom ThebellTollz 65 Warrior Povar
If a voice in your head tells you that you are not a painter, then by all means paint and that voice will be silent
Originally posted by Mentat I knew several eq players that bought and sold items and plat for real cash. One of em was paying his rent with it while unemployed. I just bought and sold in game for uber gear. But, I want to explore strange new worlds. I want to ewwww and ahhhhh over brilliant landscapes and creatures. I wanna be running somewhere and a gaint SMASH me to the ground leaving me grumbling and laughing. I want virtual reality fantasy!
Is EQ2 it?
You can bet yer ass I'ma find out...
Mentat
maybe game companies sell items and ingame money by itself
its profitable
some games trying to do this without 2nd sites like project entropia and freeworld
Originally posted by Puoltry Its because IGE and SOE have cut a deal.Just like every other popular game out there has.Ige gives SOE a % of the profits.
Uh-huh... And why would they give SoE anything? IGE is motivated by profit, they won't be giving SoE squat, and there's nothing SoE can do to stop them:
# whois ige.com ... Pierce, Brock (37426631P) brock@ige.com IGE U.S., LLC C&C 5/F, Yeung Yiu Chung 8, Ind Bldg 20, Wang Hoi Road Kowloon Bay, Kowloon HK 954-784-3150
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Somehow we went from buying cash, to aim bots, to duping. I already said I have a problem with extreme twinking, duping is CLEARLY a more serious issue. My statement was directed at aim bots, and whether or not it is possible for a skilled player to use one for cheap thrills.
> normaly if u do it smart..u will never be banned
Actually, most dupers are dumbasses. I was a guide in EQLive - 99% of the dupers had a million PP or more on their lvl 50 toons. So, yes....they got banned for their stupidity. The ones that got nailed were usually using the same dupe bugs, and since all trades are logged and traceable, our GM would have a field day whenever a new dupe bug was discovered. All they had to do was search for large cash transfers and bingo....
-pooka
extreme twinking is less prob than aimbot
some ppl using 3rd progs as aimbot..some for dupe
btw if a duper isnt a dumbass
u will never find him lol
but everyone can see a dumass with aimbot
Its because IGE and SOE have cut a deal.Just like every other popular game out there has.Ige gives SOE a % of the profits.
Get used to it.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Anyone that sells game items or game money to get RL cash should not only be banned but should be tied to a stake and given 20 lashes with a cat of nine tails. Sorry if this offends anyone but TOUGH.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
I knew several eq players that bought and sold items and plat for real cash. One of em was paying his rent with it while unemployed. I just bought and sold in game for uber gear. But, I want to explore strange new worlds. I want to ewwww and ahhhhh over brilliant landscapes and creatures. I wanna be running somewhere and a gaint SMASH me to the ground leaving me grumbling and laughing. I want virtual reality fantasy!
Is EQ2 it?
You can bet yer ass I'ma find out...
Mentat
I was a prof. Trader on eq, I started in playing eq back when there was no uberness to be spoken of....This was not a problem. IT was not a problem until years down the road when the guy that had been playing since the beginning or the dupers had maxed out there bank accounts. Then went to alternative methods to get rid of the excess of cash. The logical thing to do was sell it. If the people that did not have the plat or gil or what ever to afford items then you could go make a deal with whomever did. Its kind of like talking to a loan shark or a bank for conversion of money. the only major difference is the conversion is from real cash to imaginary ( and that could be argued with about the imaginary part to some hehe)
My point is that though this affect s in game economy by boosting the prices of some items you can get alternate items for for cheaper out of the deal. So its a one hand washes another. You can't make all items cost more. So the few items that you do raise the price of balance out with a few other items dropping in price. Its only the strive to have the most uber of uber items that kills some people. If someone tells you that this particular tiem is the best for your class do you not think there are 10 more items that are close to as good or maybe better.
But lets look at Daoc some of the best items in the game are player made. If that was a major factor in more games then this would not be a problem either. I mean then anyone willing to trade skill up could make the gear they need it. It all comes down to how much time you are willing to put in. If you don't want to put in much time and twink your self then do it but people will know you will lack the skill to use the stuff you own. If you put in the time and effort to learn the skills and the ablities then no mater what your gear level you will be wanted in more groups better xp and yes of course better gear.
If a voice in your head tells you that you are not a painter, then by all means paint and that voice will be silent
Forwhom ThebellTollz
65 Warrior Povar
If a voice in your head tells you that you are not a painter, then by all means paint and that voice will be silent
Forwhom ThebellTollz
65 Warrior Povar
maybe game companies sell items and ingame money by itself
its profitable
some games trying to do this without 2nd sites
like project entropia and freeworld
Uh-huh... And why would they give SoE anything? IGE is motivated by profit, they won't be giving SoE squat, and there's nothing SoE can do to stop them:
# whois ige.com
...
Pierce, Brock (37426631P) brock@ige.com
IGE U.S., LLC
C&C 5/F, Yeung Yiu Chung 8,
Ind Bldg 20, Wang Hoi Road
Kowloon Bay, Kowloon
HK
954-784-3150
pooka