It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
Like I said in the other thread, I wish you could punch people through the screen.
EVERYONE has seen that review already. You don't just look at one review before buying a game do you?
Right. Beat me up through the screen. And no I played the game before I bought it, reviews do not mean shit to me. Did you see the reviews Age of Conan got? Enough said.
It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
There are big differences between posting ones thoughts of the game, and doing a review wouldn't you agree? I would say one would tend to favor facts more in a review, then in posting fairly random thoughts that may well be emotionally charged responses to a post (ie defend, attack etc.) rather then a games real qualities.
Oh I 100% agree. That is why anything posted on these forums is worth a grain of salt. Atleast the review I posted is a calculated and professional write-up. Not the "OMG I am having a blast" or "WTF shitty game I am lagging on release day".
If I do a review it will be after I have played the release client for a few weeks.
All I know is that I purchased a launch client, not a beta client, and did so under the guise of early access, not beta testing, and I have yet to be able to receive the service I paid for, unless its meant to be waiting in a bugged queue for hours on end.
It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
Like I said in the other thread, I wish you could punch people through the screen.
EVERYONE has seen that review already. You don't just look at one review before buying a game do you?
Right. Beat me up through the screen. And no I played the game before I bought it, reviews do not mean shit to me. Did you see the reviews Age of Conan got? Enough said.
Ok so how many people on here do you think played the beta? Ballpark guess.
If you can't deal with not being able to play on day one, don't purchase.
if you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to get their billing system in order, don't purchase.
If you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to work out the typical kinks on a first MONTH (yes I said month, these issues are probably going to be their sporadically for a month--more so with them being a new, indie developer that folks have been saying) then don't purchase.
it doesn't require a review to understand those three points. The game probably has the best game play (with stuff missing that they could not make into launch but will be patching in later) I've read about in a while. When you actually get in game to ACTUALLY PLAY, I hear its fun. All of this has nothing to do with the technical issues.
If you aren't patient enough to deal with the technical issues right now, wait a month (or six as I'm doing) then come back. Because if you pre-ordered or purchase now you are basically paying for an incomplete game (just like most mmo launches--and especially NOT surprising int his case), so don't complain if you get through all the billing issues and still CAN'T PLAY RIGHT NOW.
Politer way of saying STFU and wait, if I do say so myself.
No just STFU will do it for you, because you obviously didn't understand that those three points you listed have abseloutely nothing to do with my original post. In fact, the people whining about that stuff was one of my targets.
Then I would consider you a fool.
The people whining as you call it have a legitimate complaint as billing issues are one of the things that should have been anticipated and taken care of by AV from the get go.
By the way didn't they delay the original January date, to take care of back end stuff like this because they overestimated how many were interested in their game . . .
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
Fact of the matter is anyone who thought this game would run 100% perfect on day one needs to be quiet and wait.
EDIT: self edited to match the stealth edit done on the title by a mod.
Have fun talking to yourself because once again, since you didn't seem to understand it the first time, NOWHERE in my original post do I mention the details of the launch. I'm actually on your side here but you're so stupid you don't even realize it.
Have fun talking to yourself because once again, since you didn't seem to understand it the first time, NOWHERE in my original post do I mention the details of the launch. I'm actually on your side here but you're so stupid you don't even realize it.
The OP meake himself more credible by the minute. Keep it up.
Well in that case, in case you successfully confused anyone here i'll explain it real simple:
The sentences:
If you can't deal with not being able to play on day one, don't purchase
Has nothing to do with my post.
if you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to get their billing system in order, don't purchase.
Has nothing to do with my post.
If you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to work out the typical kinks on a first MONTH (yes I said month, these issues are probably going to be their sporadically for a month--more so with them being a new, indie developer that folks have been saying) then don't purchase.
Has nothing to do with my post.
If going on like you are and denying that you simply misunderstood what this topic was about, have at it.
Well in that case, in case you successfully confused anyone here i'll explain it real simple: The sentences: If you can't deal with not being able to play on day one, don't purchase Has nothing to do with my post. if you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to get their billing system in order, don't purchase. Has nothing to do with my post.
If you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to work out the typical kinks on a first MONTH (yes I said month, these issues are probably going to be their sporadically for a month--more so with them being a new, indie developer that folks have been saying) then don't purchase. Has nothing to do with my post.
If going on like you are and denying that you simply misunderstood what this topic was about, have at it.
Sorry but saying "stfu and wait" is the same exact shit. Pre-ordering or purchasing at this point without waiting for the typical and most definetly NOT typical (ie billing) mmo launch issues to be worked, and then coming here to bitch about it deserves a "stfu and wait".
Couldn't care less what you posted in your OP. Just adding a more sensible opinion then telling people to purchase and be disappointed that they can't PLAY RIGHT NOW.
Originally posted by golstat2003 Couldn't care less what you posted in your OP.
This is the only true/relevant statement you've made so far. I'm glad you at least took note of the thread name, which was 'SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WAIT' - which kind of implies exactly what you are suggesting to the people that pre-ordered and can't play.
My OP was directed at three people, broken up as you can see into the paragraphs:
One was to the people who think this is a customer support forum, two to the people flaming the reviewers and DFO players who logged in today, and three to the people who are about to lose $50 to their own stupidity.
If you're not in one of those three groups, then you shouldn't feel offended or questioned. Some people are just provocateurs I guess though.
Originally posted by winter Point being He's suggesting others should do it when he's not willing to do it hemself.
This.
OP this is a gaming forum and it's really no different than any other, it's a place where one can and will discuss, give opinion and flat out rant and rave about the small things to major problems and your topic will not convince the majority to your way of thinking, this type of "hey! shut up about the subject" is just as old as trolling and i'm sorry to say accomplishes just as much to discussions and they do.
If you dislike the way people are talking about Darkfall, the trolls, the baiting, the multiple posting then do something beyond preaching...or find a forum in which these issues that annoy you so much don't exist....good luck with that.
If you have a problem with a thread, report it....if you have a problem with trolling then report them, just like somebody did to you and your title topic, i remember your title well, it was "shut the fuck up and wait", the new title isn't much better because it's not a suggestion, it's a demand....you want people to do as you say, the short answer to that being "when hell freezes over"you are in no position to demand anything from anyone here, sir.
Good luck with your crusade, meanwhile the threads will continue, the trolls will continue trolling, and this thread will be buried under them..lost in forum limbo....it's time for you to learn how to ignore it and move on, the population won't and shouldn't change over because you have a bug up your butt about the way things are done.
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the problem with the skeptics is, no matter what you post its never enough for them, unless it is 90% negative.
So since your are a DF beta tester why aren't YOU posting any reviews?
Its almost pointless to post any reviews cause its just gonna be burried in 12 year old bitching in the next 5 min.
This. I have posted my thoughts on the game multiple times on these forums anyways.
And to everyone crying about the lack of "objective reviews" Here ya go:
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1
It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
Like I said in the other thread, I wish you could punch people through the screen.
EVERYONE has seen that review already. You don't just look at one review before buying a game do you?
Right. Beat me up through the screen. And no I played the game before I bought it, reviews do not mean shit to me. Did you see the reviews Age of Conan got? Enough said.
So since your are a DF beta tester why aren't YOU posting any reviews?
Its almost pointless to post any reviews cause its just gonna be burried in 12 year old bitching in the next 5 min.
This. I have posted my thoughts on the game multiple times on these forums anyways.
And to everyone crying about the lack of "objective reviews" Here ya go:
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1
It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
There are big differences between posting ones thoughts of the game, and doing a review wouldn't you agree? I would say one would tend to favor facts more in a review, then in posting fairly random thoughts that may well be emotionally charged responses to a post (ie defend, attack etc.) rather then a games real qualities.
Oh I 100% agree. That is why anything posted on these forums is worth a grain of salt. Atleast the review I posted is a calculated and professional write-up. Not the "OMG I am having a blast" or "WTF shitty game I am lagging on release day".
If I do a review it will be after I have played the release client for a few weeks.
All I know is that I purchased a launch client, not a beta client, and did so under the guise of early access, not beta testing, and I have yet to be able to receive the service I paid for, unless its meant to be waiting in a bugged queue for hours on end.
So since your are a DF beta tester why aren't YOU posting any reviews?
Its almost pointless to post any reviews cause its just gonna be burried in 12 year old bitching in the next 5 min.
This. I have posted my thoughts on the game multiple times on these forums anyways.
And to everyone crying about the lack of "objective reviews" Here ya go:
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1
It is a beta review, but you are not going to get a good review about the release client until atleast a week or more.
Like I said in the other thread, I wish you could punch people through the screen.
EVERYONE has seen that review already. You don't just look at one review before buying a game do you?
Right. Beat me up through the screen. And no I played the game before I bought it, reviews do not mean shit to me. Did you see the reviews Age of Conan got? Enough said.
Ok so how many people on here do you think played the beta? Ballpark guess.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Thats what I thought.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
If you can't deal with not being able to play on day one, don't purchase.
if you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to get their billing system in order, don't purchase.
If you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to work out the typical kinks on a first MONTH (yes I said month, these issues are probably going to be their sporadically for a month--more so with them being a new, indie developer that folks have been saying) then don't purchase.
it doesn't require a review to understand those three points. The game probably has the best game play (with stuff missing that they could not make into launch but will be patching in later) I've read about in a while. When you actually get in game to ACTUALLY PLAY, I hear its fun. All of this has nothing to do with the technical issues.
If you aren't patient enough to deal with the technical issues right now, wait a month (or six as I'm doing) then come back. Because if you pre-ordered or purchase now you are basically paying for an incomplete game (just like most mmo launches--and especially NOT surprising int his case), so don't complain if you get through all the billing issues and still CAN'T PLAY RIGHT NOW.
Politer way of saying STFU and wait, if I do say so myself.
No just STFU will do it for you, because you obviously didn't understand that those three points you listed have abseloutely nothing to do with my original post. In fact, the people whining about that stuff was one of my targets.
Then I would consider you a fool.
The people whining as you call it have a legitimate complaint as billing issues are one of the things that should have been anticipated and taken care of by AV from the get go.
By the way didn't they delay the original January date, to take care of back end stuff like this because they overestimated how many were interested in their game . . .
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
Fact of the matter is anyone who thought this game would run 100% perfect on day one needs to be quiet and wait.
EDIT: self edited to match the stealth edit done on the title by a mod.
Have fun talking to yourself because once again, since you didn't seem to understand it the first time, NOWHERE in my original post do I mention the details of the launch. I'm actually on your side here but you're so stupid you don't even realize it.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
The OP meake himself more credible by the minute. Keep it up.
Well in that case, in case you successfully confused anyone here i'll explain it real simple:
The sentences:
If you can't deal with not being able to play on day one, don't purchase
Has nothing to do with my post.
if you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to get their billing system in order, don't purchase.
Has nothing to do with my post.
If you can't deal with waiting on a new developer to work out the typical kinks on a first MONTH (yes I said month, these issues are probably going to be their sporadically for a month--more so with them being a new, indie developer that folks have been saying) then don't purchase.
Has nothing to do with my post.
If going on like you are and denying that you simply misunderstood what this topic was about, have at it.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Sorry but saying "stfu and wait" is the same exact shit. Pre-ordering or purchasing at this point without waiting for the typical and most definetly NOT typical (ie billing) mmo launch issues to be worked, and then coming here to bitch about it deserves a "stfu and wait".
Couldn't care less what you posted in your OP. Just adding a more sensible opinion then telling people to purchase and be disappointed that they can't PLAY RIGHT NOW.
This is the only true/relevant statement you've made so far. I'm glad you at least took note of the thread name, which was 'SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WAIT' - which kind of implies exactly what you are suggesting to the people that pre-ordered and can't play.
My OP was directed at three people, broken up as you can see into the paragraphs:
One was to the people who think this is a customer support forum, two to the people flaming the reviewers and DFO players who logged in today, and three to the people who are about to lose $50 to their own stupidity.
If you're not in one of those three groups, then you shouldn't feel offended or questioned. Some people are just provocateurs I guess though.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
This.
OP this is a gaming forum and it's really no different than any other, it's a place where one can and will discuss, give opinion and flat out rant and rave about the small things to major problems and your topic will not convince the majority to your way of thinking, this type of "hey! shut up about the subject" is just as old as trolling and i'm sorry to say accomplishes just as much to discussions and they do.
If you dislike the way people are talking about Darkfall, the trolls, the baiting, the multiple posting then do something beyond preaching...or find a forum in which these issues that annoy you so much don't exist....good luck with that.
If you have a problem with a thread, report it....if you have a problem with trolling then report them, just like somebody did to you and your title topic, i remember your title well, it was "shut the fuck up and wait", the new title isn't much better because it's not a suggestion, it's a demand....you want people to do as you say, the short answer to that being "when hell freezes over"you are in no position to demand anything from anyone here, sir.
Good luck with your crusade, meanwhile the threads will continue, the trolls will continue trolling, and this thread will be buried under them..lost in forum limbo....it's time for you to learn how to ignore it and move on, the population won't and shouldn't change over because you have a bug up your butt about the way things are done.