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POLL: Would you support a massive Eugenics operation?
vonomous
Member Posts: 357
With the obvious lack of quality among the vast majority of the human species at this time in history, perhaps it is time for a new wave of eugenics to get us back on the right path.
My vote is: Yes. If I get to decide who lives and who dies. But I might be swayed to accepting the leaders deciding instead. Humanity has sunk too far and its time to clean it up, even if I have to be sacrificed in the process.
You're thoughts?
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
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I don't find the poll answers particularly adequate.
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Only if I could create someone like Khan Noonian Singh, the great tyrant of The Eugenics Wars.
Edit: that should be KHAAAN!!! Not Boston.
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Samuel Adams
We used to have this. Remember when there weren't any warnings on commercials? Don't try this at home? It was natural selection on weeding out the Darwin award winners but then someone had to ruin that by forcing commercials to have warnings at the bottom of them.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
That’s one approach, or we could all throw away our HD TV's and Computers and start reading books. Givin the "obvious lack of quality among the human species", your idea will probably win out.
But then we'll just have a bunch of genetically perfect asshats sitting around reading books.
Joke thread.
No.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
I'm not going to vote in the poll, but I have long discussions on this subject with my boyfriend and mom a -ton-. I strongly support the idea of a pesudo-eugenics program if it was done correctly. If it wasn't classist, racist, ect. Which is basically impossible in today's society as those biases are ingrained into our instituions, but if they weren't a fundamental aspect of our culture/species, I'd be all for it.
What many fail to realize is that Obama's policies are the beginning of a Eugenics program. Look at his "health plan" for ample proof.
Umm I find this thread highly disturbing and especially for those who voted for option one. Who in the right has the rite to says who lives or who dies? That would only make sense if your ass was in that conversation of who lives and who dies with no special interests. Bah, I can't stand people like that. The universe does not evolve around you!
I agree. I can't believe that peoples are even talking about such a thing, be it in a serious or a joking manner. I wonder these dipsh*ts realize that several million American, British, French Canadians and Australians fought and died in the 1940's to keep just this sort of thing from happening? And I'm not talking just about the Jews either. Those who favored eugenics didn't like Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally handicapped or anyone they considered "undesirable" which could include anyone they didn't like. and they were looking to expand their operations all over the world including the US. Lot's of people there that they thought of as a stain on humanity. Hey! Here's and idea! How about all those people who think a eugenics program is a real good idea put their money where their mouths are and be the first ones to volunteer to be snuffed out for the betterment of the human race. I bet their opinions would change real quick then...wouldn't it! I can see it now..."Oh! Wait!... I didn't mean me!!!"
I hope all of you that voted yes are the first to be chosen for “cleansing” if anything like this ever happens. Seriously what a sick idea, it’s the little things like this that make me lose faith in humanity.
Why terminate, when you can control? Mandatory sterilization and extended abortion periods towards humans that present with serious hereditory genetic defects works better than completely removing them from society.
Not only does this make the process slightly "humane", but it allows for functional humans to serve a purpose. Someone presenting with a genetic defect causing them to become a paraplegic does not warrant for death, especially in a society where people can make significant contributions through non-conventional methods. Prime example, Steven Hawking.
Well, thats just the thing. I would also support a pesudo-eugenics program but it would always be racist, bias, etc.. The majority of the population on earth are caucasion, most leaders are caucasion, which makes you think that we would breed more caucasion people. As for the stupid people of the planet that need to be weeded out. I hope everyone feels the same was as I do on this one. Weed them out.
Thinking about it. Sperm clinics now require someone with 4 years of college completed to donate sperm. They dont want anymore dumb babies.
Obama is stressing that everyone of America graduate high school, and then take AT LEAST one year of further education.
In these ways, if you think about it, its already some what started. If it were to be a full blown eugenics program I think leaders would take out most races, other than caucasion because thats just the worlds majority.. That would be the racist out look on things.
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
You are funny in a mentally challenged way. And a tad bit delusional and arrogant that you believe that anyone would try to "sway" you or that you would "sacrifice" yourself.
But please do define "quality"
I am very curious to hear about it. Hypocrites and nutcases have always funny and intersting stories to tell.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Would I support a Eugenics operation that involved killing those considered unworthy? NEVER
Would I support a more passive Eugenics program, involving the control of who is allowed to reproduce, and/or raise children? Yes, depending upon the measures taken to preserve human rights.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
You are funny in a mentally challenged way. And a tad bit delusional and arrogant that you believe that anyone would try to "sway" you or that you would "sacrifice" yourself.
But please do define "quality"
I am very curious to hear about it. Hypocrites and nutcases have always funny and intersting stories to tell.
Quality here can mean a number of different things. Generally Eugenics has a number of goals in mind, from improved average intelligence to baseline strength. Other ideals might include cosmetic appearance, improved metabolism/immune systems, reduced tendancy for a variety of mental and physical disorders, etc.
Mainly though, its about population control. It promotes a healthy human species without the overcrowding and food problems associated with the exponential growth we see today.
At least, that is the case in theory. In the past however, the concept has been used as an excuse to get rid of "undesireables", with little to no regard as to their actual function in society.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Clearly someone who hasn't studied evolution correctly would vote yes.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Technically, Eugenics is an offshoot of Darwinian principles. The idea was to give evolution a helping hand, allow it to do its work in a few generations rather than several hundred thousand. Of course, when the primary advocates who actually put such into effect are white power racists here in the US, and Nazi party leaders... you just might have a problem.
I believe the primary issue is when people mistake racial attributes for evolutionary turning points.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Technically, Eugenics is an offshoot of Darwinian principles. The idea was to give evolution a helping hand, allow it to do its work in a few generations rather than several hundred thousand. Of course, when the primary advocates who actually put such into effect are white power racists here in the US, and Nazi party leaders... you just might have a problem.
Not to mention that the white-party leaders are normally all stupid rednecks that just like to shoot their mouth off, slanging stupid words and phrases. They talk about hateing this race hating that race, never really do they talk about why the white race should prevaile. They make us normal caucasions look like a bunch or retarded assholes. They should be killed. ...pigs
Hope to god that they are not trying eugenics, due to the fact they might breed with their sister.... causing an awful opposite..
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
You are funny in a mentally challenged way. And a tad bit delusional and arrogant that you believe that anyone would try to "sway" you or that you would "sacrifice" yourself.
But please do define "quality"
I am very curious to hear about it. Hypocrites and nutcases have always funny and intersting stories to tell.
Quality here can mean a number of different things. Generally Eugenics has a number of goals in mind, from improved average intelligence to baseline strength. Other ideals might include cosmetic appearance, improved metabolism/immune systems, reduced tendancy for a variety of mental and physical disorders, etc.
Mainly though, its about population control. It promotes a healthy human species without the overcrowding and food problems associated with the exponential growth we see today.
At least, that is the case in theory. In the past however, the concept has been used as an excuse to get rid of "undesireables", with little to no regard as to their actual function in society.
Damn you spoiled my flaming XD
All jokes aside although I understand the theory I still find it in practice a very weak excuse. If anyone has that much money to spend on such a thing then they have money to raise the standard of living around the globe, instead of using epheuminisms for genocides ( I am talking about the more extremist opinions here). Higher standard of living reduces overpopulation and offers all these things much better. Yeah it takes longer, but nothing that is worth is achieved instantly. Without higher standards of living population control means little imo.
Sometimes it seems people seem to forget that it's our inadequacies that makes us strong by fighting to overcome them.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Sorry, wrong number. Caucasions are the minority world wide.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
What do you think the official excuse behind the WWII holocaust was? Here in the US, it was responsible for the forced sterilization of thousands before the program was brought to heel.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Sorry, wrong number. Caucasions are the minority world wide.
Correct, but his point is still valid. The caucasian race is in the majority in the countries with the most power, and as such, are the ones that will most likely be dictating the details of any such programs.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
What do you think the official excuse behind the WWII holocaust was? Here in the US, it was responsible for the forced sterilization of thousands before the program was brought to heel.
Im talking about the present neo-nazis in america. Have you seen the National geographic segment they had on them..
The Germans on the other hand were not as foolish as these assholes.
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."