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DarkFall huh.. Sheesh what a mess right?
Here are a few things that us grown ups are automatically doing, because of common sense.
1) Being Patient. This is an MMORPG. It isn't a single player console games. If you dont understand MMORPGs, just listen to me, I have more then enough experience for the both of us.
2) Stop requesting. You look like a jackass. "GIVE ME AN UPDATE/THIS/THAT/FIRST BORN, NOW". If they said "It will be fixed in 7 hours, youd be back in 2 complaining why it isnt fixed yet.
Before you start typing to defend yourself.. Stop. There is no time. This isn't pizza bagels in a toaster oven. They're given rough estimates and due to the lack of maturity in the followers, they rarely even give those. Because people call them liars and murders and rapists..
3) Pretend the game is launching 2 weeks from now, if you happen to get into the game before then. LUCKY! If not, oh well. You still have a life, right?
4) THEY HAVE TO GET THE SERVERS STABLE BEFORE THEY COULD EVER CONSIDER WIPING THEM. Shut up about it already. Its a high chance it wont happen AT ALL. Fat people call people exploiters because they are fat.
5) If your pre-order didnt work yet. YOU ARENT A CUSTOMER. You have no rights and they offered a CANCEL option.
SHUT UP AND LEAVE ALREADY.
Stop crying, stop bitching and moaning and start being grown ass people.
Grown ass people don't cry like little girls.
Hi, im common sense and I approve this message!
~Chubby
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
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good post
I expect to be informed. period.
I am a customer now and it is unacceptable the lack of communication.
period.
nothing else.
Defariak Hopeslayer
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lol. well said chubby.
now wait for the abuse your probably about to get
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
This should indeed be a mandatory read for everyone in these forums. Let me go get my pockmod and ill have it stickied.
Well technicly if you have preordered but they fucked up your preorder you are a customer who sat god knows how many hours of his time trying to preorder the game that dident work
Theres also common sense behind the scene of peoples time spendt trying to preorder ok it may or may not be their own god damn fault for wasting time to preorder but they dident exactly make it easy on the people preordering either so its not really a win win situation.
I agree and want to add that if the the people complaining were to complain about what their governments are doing to them as much as they do about this game the world would be a much better place.
Chubby Aventurine has a free vacancy for public relation guy. I am sure you would be perfect
So did you bring Menace to this game, and if so what race are you guys going?
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Bring it on I say, im equipped with common sense and over 14 years of MMORPG experience. I refuse to let angst filled logic defy sense.
Originally posted by defariak
I expect to be informed. period.
I am a customer now and it is unacceptable the lack of communication.
period.
nothing else.
You're informed.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/
You're welcome, im the information fairy.
Let me translate for anyone whose ears are whistling with anger so badly, they cant hear right.
Basically: Our shit is all messed up. Damn this is a huge project that is taking all our resourcers, manpower, and stamina. We are working as fast as we can to get everything running smoothly. We will give you more information when it becomes available.
But no.. What else do you want? Gimme a minute..
Ok ok.. Tasos just ate a small bag of potatoe chips.. Oh wait WAIT.. STOP THE PRESSES.. HE MAY JUST FIX EVERYTHING WITH JUST A SINGLE KEYSTROKE..
Oh no no.. nevermind, this is the real world.
HAHA! Kidding, but seriously chill out and lighten up.
There is no information for 'We have no more information'. Patience is a virtue young ones.
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
Wow, you should try to find out what the problem is before you start trying to "solve" it.
1, I agree, totally...
2, It's more like they said it would be fixed in 2 hours, we've been waiting for 7...
3, Yeah, I can agree with that. If you want to have a flawless experience, don't play a game at launch
4, I'm against wiping, end of discussion...
5, We have pre-ordered, paid both the preorder fee AND the price for the actual game + 1 month of game-time, and still, we cannot even connect to the game, because aventurine has not activated our accounts, and when asked they say we filled out our CC-information incorrectly (how can money have been deducted from our banks if we entered the wrong CC information??)
I agree with you about many ppls being very immature, but frankly there are a lot mature ppls out here being screwed up aswell, so plz don't go bitch about bitching players...
First of, im not a Darkfall player, but all the statements of ppl asking for patience seems ridiculous for my as long as we know they benn working for 5 years in the proyect, and at the end they make a lot of big mistakes. They are Indy blablabla... not excuses. People already paid for play 25th, and they cant. Its like u buy a car and they promise you to give the tires in the next two weeks....
Not patience since release date was 25th. Thay had a lot of time to setup the game, not when a lot of ppl already payed for it.
I think every one has a life, but again, if u paid... your car... you want to drive it day one. Not in the next two weeks.
Understand. they need to tweak the servers. so far so good. normal for me... but the servers been down from 25th more than up.
they preordered it, the pre, becomes order when 25th was reach so... they are customers.
They cry here, because, AV closed the forums... its like take the money and run.
No excuses if one indy company pretends to make a mmoprg and fails, its their fault, not the fault of people gave them his money.
Well technicly if you have preordered but they fucked up your preorder you are a customer who sat god knows how many hours of his time trying to preorder the game that dident work
Theres also common sense behind the scene of peoples time spendt trying to preorder ok it may or may not be their own god damn fault for wasting time to preorder but they dident exactly make it easy on the people preordering either so its not really a win win situation.
No, you're wrong.
Most preorders havent gone through and they've allowed you to stop it from ever doing so.
Its not THEIR problem that YOU have no patience.
I could stare at a model's breast in a magazine for hours, doesn't mean im going to get to motorboat them.
You're refreshing.. They didnt say 'Hey everyone try again, over and over and over again!'. They said they're working out the problem and be patient until more information is available.
So any frustrations you have are your fault and your fault alone.
I got mad at 7 minutes worth of refreshing. Know what I did before I punched a planet sized hole in my monitor?
Stopped.
Sorry. Good luck. Be patient.
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
You are a paying beta tester and that's all you are. What did you expect for your pre-order fee. You choose not to listen to the so called trolls and now you are moaning.
Go PAY TO TEST...LOLOL
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No no, Menace was a good friend of mine's guild.
I was only a co-leader. I have about 6 or 7 friends planning on playing DarkFall.
Not sure on what race, probably a mix if its really possible. We will guage guilds, to join, once we get into the game.
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
You Obviously dident read my post im talking about people who have preordered and where confirmed to preorder Many who have actualy been charged for the preorder but not gained access to the game i agree that waiting is all you can do
They are customers since they have been charged for the game mearly what i was pointing out
Grown people generally don t talk like this either. It does explain alot of the problems with kids nowadays though.
Got a problem with #5. The problem is, a lot of us were CHARGED for pre-orders, and still don't have them... and if you have to forfeit the "pre-order charge" to cancel the damn pre-order. That, by any definition, makes me a customer....they have my money.
Bring it on I say, im equipped with common sense and over 14 years of MMORPG experience. I refuse to let angst filled logic defy sense.
Originally posted by defariak
I expect to be informed. period.
I am a customer now and it is unacceptable the lack of communication.
period.
nothing else.
You're informed.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/
You're welcome, im the information fairy.
Let me translate for anyone whose ears are whistling with anger so badly, they cant hear right.
Basically: Our shit is all messed up. Damn this is a huge project that is taking all our resourcers, manpower, and stamina. We are working as fast as we can to get everything running smoothly. We will give you more information when it becomes available.
But no.. What else do you want? Gimme a minute..
Ok ok.. Tasos just ate a small bag of potatoe chips.. Oh wait WAIT.. STOP THE PRESSES.. HE MAY JUST FIX EVERYTHING WITH JUST A SINGLE KEYSTROKE..
Oh no no.. nevermind, this is the real world.
HAHA! Kidding, but seriously chill out and lighten up.
There is no information for 'We have no more information'. Patience is a virtue young ones.
Right!!
People acting like they are going to lose their money..like the world just collapsed.
They're going to lose only a bit of their time and that's it.
P.S. For that remaining time I would advise to spend it posting goodbye threads in WoW forums.
Why dont you send me the money you paid for this product and if you happen to receive something after you paid then LUCKY! if not, oh well. You still have a life right?
Huh. Im going to try and answer you and the guy above you without 90 different quotes.
As I understand it, you can cancel your order completely. Be it paid for (I guess a refund) or non-paid for. You can pull out.
Much like the father's of most of this forum's population should of.
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
Cut the quote a bit, to make more sense.
Basically this is exactly the type of post I hoped for.
Everyone take a good long look at this guy.. 'Chubby you're just a fanboi, you know nothing.'.
What I am is a grown up, incase you didnt read. I didnt get much time to test the game, but the core elements im excited for are there.
What you're telling me that I should be doing, is to not be blind to their lies and propaganda.
This is litterally retarded. If I for any moment thought I was being lied to, id be gone. POOF.
Where Chubby go? Oh he went to not go bitch and complain on another game.
Hehe, sorry dude. I know you truely wanted to 'nail it down', but you're using a safety hammer.
Don't like it, dont buy it.
What are you trying to convince me to do? Stop using my common sense and patience?
Sorry I cant do that. Good luck.
It don't matter if they're laughing with you or at you, so long as they're laughing.
I just want to go on record saying I never called Tasos a rapist. Thanks,
TEH SKY IS FALLING TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!!
To many chicken littles running around on this forum
Hello Tasos, my old friend,
Its those preorders once again,
The sync has left me softly creeping,
your server farm has left me weeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Yet from you its silence.
And in the forums I did saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking,
Fanbois hearing without listening,
People writing excuses that voices never share
And no one dared
Disturb the sound, of Brannoc
And the fanbois bowed and prayed
To the developer God they had made.
All the signs flashed out their warning,
The realisation was slowly forming
And the signs said, the words of the prophets
Are written in the forum calls
And clan city halls.
Preorders heard the sound,of silence
Am I allowed to say that in my 5 years of MMORPG gaming experience this launch is the biggest screw up so far?
Is it ok to state that Aventurine are in my 3 most pathetic MMORPG companies of all time?
Is it ok to say that Tasos is the biggest liar since Joseph Goebels?
Is it ok to say I'm enjoying the show?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
OP, what you posted might hold common sense, but rather the kind of "I adapt to whatever some asshole faces me with and try to find the good points in it" than the usual "if it stinks like a rotten fish and looks like a rotten fish, so it is very very probably a rotten fish indeed" kind of common sense.
I know I would wish my customers were as coginitive dissonant as you and your applauders, but unfortunately I have to deliver the goods I advertise in usual business manner.
Why in the world should gaming companies be exempt from that? Only because most games are released in little more than early beta state, it is NOT ok to do so and charge money for the crap. They get away with it because there are too many nowadays with your special kind of common sense, who are so greedy to play a new game that they happily forgive every shit flung at them with a smile and a "no big deal, really". You (taken as a prototype) are exactly the person who made and makes it possible that gaming companies can virtually do whatever they want and publish products which have little semblance to the advertised one. In a way it is you who is responsible for the horrendous proceedings with Darkfall. At least If there were less customers like you the companies would think twice before making a paid closed beta.