EVE has 2 servers actually. The other is in Asia. 1 corp control 0.0 and they just grind. Compare that to dramas and wars we have on our EVE. Exactly the same games, two outcomes.
When things will settle down with gama issues, I hope to see drama, whining, crying, flaming, boasting, wars, backstabbing and all sorts of fun stuff. This gives the game life.
Originally posted by mikage31582 Actually, the complete opposite. The older crowd is the much more hardcore crowd at this stage. It's the kiddies (and their parent's money) that dislike competition.
A lesser fee is no marketing strategy, that is faillure.
EVE Online is the only western MMO with FFA PVP (half loot lol) that has become a success.
But that is because it offers a big safe zone so it can cater to more players.
Fact is even, that most of their playerbase don't even venture in 0.0 space, but having fun in Empire space itself.
I love PVP myself. I love risk vs reward gameplay. But just admit it. FFA PVP with full loot hardcore mode (aka no safezones) has not a viable market.
Most people still play games for fun. There aren't that many gamers out there, with a fetish hunger for a game where they spend 99% of their time staring that the resurection screen and/or running around naked.
Actually, I tend to think it has a very viable market. I just haven't seen it implemented correctly anywhere (including EVE) since the turn of the century. The one thing I fear is people using DF as an example, especially in its current state. Let's see how DF, MO, and Earthrise do altogether before we judge the market.
If it's such a viable market, then please tell me why Aventurine implemented so called carebear features like Safe starter towns and in the end even those Laser towers.
Because even Aventurine saw that they wouldn't had any chance on survival with a true open FFA PVP full loot server.
As long as there total asshats on the internet (wich will be forever), true Open FFA PVP full loot has no future and is no viable market.
LMAO!!! and this was posted during 'morning European time,' when they said they were going to be through with this pre-order processing. Instead they just hit the sack. Awful...So awful.
LMAO!!! and this was posted during 'morning European time,' when they said they were going to be through with this pre-order processing. Instead they just hit the sack. Awful...So awful.
Why? They got your money. So now they can go relax and sit back and do the exact same thing they have been doing all these years.
They have now collected enough money to keep the company afloat for a couple more months.
Tomorrow they open up the shop again, so more sheep can hand them over their CC details, charge them and bingo! they have enough money to keep going till the end of the year.
It's funny because I woke up 3 hours later than the planned time only to find out they still haven't even got the servers up...And that was 7 hours ago I saw that update on their main forums.
But that big company would also implement safe zones for sure. Not sure how many fanboys would like that. Ofc if they polished it enough, it could appeal to an entirely different audiance afterwards.
Correct. You know, I still don't understand why every MMO on the market doesn't just implement a FFA pVP Full loot server. Even WoW. It would quiet the opposition and, if the server had low population, you simply charge a lower monthly fee for just access to that server to encourage people to give it a try. It wouldn't be perfect, but at least the PKers would have less to complain about.
You win post of the night. +10
I honestly will never pay to play another game that doesnt offer risk vs reward.
WoW, SWG, EQ2, AoC, VG, lord of rings. These games are all fail.
If i could die right now and have one final wish, i would wish that all game makers make MMO's like the original Ultima Online before the reputation patch (hence, long before trammel).
These guys had such a great concept and it is so close to being great, but with what resources they have it looks like it is being run out of a garage:(
Wish some huge company would come in, give them full development control, money, tech support, forums, csr support and just take a nice chunk of the profts.
This game could easily, easily overcome wow if it was polished.
Had many more servers, CSR, Quests, CSR etc:( But it looks like it may be going in the toilet if things dont change and change fast. This is the type of game that needs population to make it exponentialy better, POPULATION is 80% of it's content and they are going to loose it fast
The problem is they already had, and spent, tens of millions of dollars they raised over the years. Darkfall was never some poorly funded affair, despite popular belief. It is likely that nobody would trust them today with a large capital infusion again if they were obviously such poor stewards of their previous capitalization.
The problem is they already had, and spent, tens of millions of dollars they raised over the years. Darkfall was never some poorly funded affair, despite popular belief. It is likely that nobody would trust them today with a large capital infusion again if they were obviously such poor stewards of their previous capitalization.
HE! SSSSSSSST! Come on now. The fanbois have to endure enough already.
Now killing off their last schred of dream they had by saying that the company had proper funding over the years, while the all the fanbois believed the poor devs were sitting in a basement, living on water and bread and slavering their asses off 20 hours a day to make THE perfect game for them.
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EVE has 2 servers actually. The other is in Asia. 1 corp control 0.0 and they just grind. Compare that to dramas and wars we have on our EVE. Exactly the same games, two outcomes.
When things will settle down with gama issues, I hope to see drama, whining, crying, flaming, boasting, wars, backstabbing and all sorts of fun stuff. This gives the game life.
Ty Faided
And I agree tamcia:)
Hope the game survives and thrives whatever way it happens.
The current company HAS destroyed this game. So what's your next excuse?
hahaha...ok, whatever you say
ps. by older I don't mean ~25. I mean older
A lesser fee is no marketing strategy, that is faillure.
EVE Online is the only western MMO with FFA PVP (half loot lol) that has become a success.
But that is because it offers a big safe zone so it can cater to more players.
Fact is even, that most of their playerbase don't even venture in 0.0 space, but having fun in Empire space itself.
I love PVP myself. I love risk vs reward gameplay. But just admit it. FFA PVP with full loot hardcore mode (aka no safezones) has not a viable market.
Most people still play games for fun. There aren't that many gamers out there, with a fetish hunger for a game where they spend 99% of their time staring that the resurection screen and/or running around naked.
Actually, I tend to think it has a very viable market. I just haven't seen it implemented correctly anywhere (including EVE) since the turn of the century. The one thing I fear is people using DF as an example, especially in its current state. Let's see how DF, MO, and Earthrise do altogether before we judge the market.
If it's such a viable market, then please tell me why Aventurine implemented so called carebear features like Safe starter towns and in the end even those Laser towers.
Because even Aventurine saw that they wouldn't had any chance on survival with a true open FFA PVP full loot server.
As long as there total asshats on the internet (wich will be forever), true Open FFA PVP full loot has no future and is no viable market.
LMAO!!! and this was posted during 'morning European time,' when they said they were going to be through with this pre-order processing. Instead they just hit the sack. Awful...So awful.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Why? They got your money. So now they can go relax and sit back and do the exact same thing they have been doing all these years.
They have now collected enough money to keep the company afloat for a couple more months.
Tomorrow they open up the shop again, so more sheep can hand them over their CC details, charge them and bingo! they have enough money to keep going till the end of the year.
rofl.
It's funny because I woke up 3 hours later than the planned time only to find out they still haven't even got the servers up...And that was 7 hours ago I saw that update on their main forums.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Correct. You know, I still don't understand why every MMO on the market doesn't just implement a FFA pVP Full loot server. Even WoW. It would quiet the opposition and, if the server had low population, you simply charge a lower monthly fee for just access to that server to encourage people to give it a try. It wouldn't be perfect, but at least the PKers would have less to complain about.
You win post of the night. +10
I honestly will never pay to play another game that doesnt offer risk vs reward.
WoW, SWG, EQ2, AoC, VG, lord of rings. These games are all fail.
If i could die right now and have one final wish, i would wish that all game makers make MMO's like the original Ultima Online before the reputation patch (hence, long before trammel).
Yeah that reputation patch made me quit.
I love how some people say their a smal company bla bla, they dont charge you any less do they!!
No, they charged them even more haha.
The problem is they already had, and spent, tens of millions of dollars they raised over the years. Darkfall was never some poorly funded affair, despite popular belief. It is likely that nobody would trust them today with a large capital infusion again if they were obviously such poor stewards of their previous capitalization.
Admins : Online DARKFALL : online!!!
The problem is they already had, and spent, tens of millions of dollars they raised over the years. Darkfall was never some poorly funded affair, despite popular belief. It is likely that nobody would trust them today with a large capital infusion again if they were obviously such poor stewards of their previous capitalization.
HE! SSSSSSSST! Come on now. The fanbois have to endure enough already.
Now killing off their last schred of dream they had by saying that the company had proper funding over the years, while the all the fanbois believed the poor devs were sitting in a basement, living on water and bread and slavering their asses off 20 hours a day to make THE perfect game for them.
How rude of you!