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Darkfall vs Warhammer? Which better PvP game?

tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819

Which Better PvP game?

Can somebody go into detail on the gameplay of Darkfall please,

all I see on this forum is chat about other stuff.

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Should wait a month or two so people can get a better understanding of how DF works.  This poll is really not fair as it stands now.

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  • CathaloCathalo Member Posts: 50

    Nobody has really been able to play darkfall for longer than a couple hours.  

  • ShuttleXpCShuttleXpC Member Posts: 88

    I didn't just blindly vote here, I'll give you some main reasons why War's PvP is better:

    1) Everyone isnt' wearing the same damn armor using the same damn weapons clicking the left mouse button over and over for a kill.

    2) War's PvP is more skill based, in Darkfall you simply see or get 3-4 people to gank a single person then try to revel in the glory.

    When Darkfall adds some more skill to actually killing people, we can all gather here comparing the two. Until then, that 50% Darkfall has are either 1) fanboys, or 2) People who haven't played both.

  • madgophermadgopher Member Posts: 21

    ENOUGH TIME  to know warhammer open pvp is one big zerg rolling from keep to keep

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827

    Depends what you like. Warhammer is going out and playing football, or any other team sport, except on a bigger scale. Darkfall is walking around getting your ass handed to you by anyone, anywhere, and then having to make friends in order to survive.

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181

    Having played beta for both and the release of War for a few months I would say DFO has the better PvP.

  • BygginByggin Member Posts: 17

    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827
    Originally posted by Byggin


    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

    Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.

    Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.

  • PowsterZPowsterZ Member Posts: 6

    lol.. funny comparing the two.. Theres no way warhammer can compare to darkfall's pvp.

  • jagorhighjagorhigh Member Posts: 43

     ahaaha!! u r genius!

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  • drago_pldrago_pl Member Posts: 384
    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

    Originally posted by Byggin


    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

    Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.

    Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.

     

    Create new character in WAR, level it up to lvl 5 (that's probably state most of beta testers achieved) and start PvP. Then get back here and tell us what you think about PvP skill in WAR with 3 spells avaible..

     

     

  • TrainedmonkyTrainedmonky Member Posts: 12

    This is a no brainer Darkfall wins in all areas over Warhammer

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

    Originally posted by Byggin


    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

    Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.

    Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.

     

    So in DFO you don't have to worry about hitting or getting hit by your teammates, cooldowns on spells or potions, actually hitting the target you are aiming at instead of the game auto-aiming for you, have I left anything out? Oh you have to watch your stamina. So DFO is just click click click I understand your position now.

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    WTF a poll who is better one is total freedom a free for all full loot pvp in huge world without savezones instance.

    Other WAR is themepark SUPER CAREBEAR without any risk:p

    TAKE YOUR PICK.

    Darkfall win easyly if yoyr saying your a true pvper.

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  • ScarrenScarren Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Evasia


    WTF a poll who is better one is total freedom a free for all full loot pvp in huge world without savezones instance.
    Other WAR is themepark SUPER CAREBEAR without any risk:p
    TAKE YOUR PICK.
    Darkfall win easyly if yoyr saying your a true pvper.

    I really want dfo to get online soon , i really want to see how the politics work , 3-5 huge imba guild controlling the whole server and every noob getting gang ganked at the starting zones.

     

  • ChaswickChaswick Member UncommonPosts: 60
    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

    Originally posted by Byggin


    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

    Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.

    Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.

     

    Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.

  • ShuttleXpCShuttleXpC Member Posts: 88
    Originally posted by Chaswick

    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

    Originally posted by Byggin


    No comparison Warhammer has no pvp.

    Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.

    Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.

     

    Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.

     

    Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.

  • ShlomoShlomo Member Posts: 148

    Warhammer tried to hard to please. Was a post not long ago that players didn't know what was good for them and i agree. There for i am going to try Darkfall when i get the chans.

  • tejondourtejondour Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by drago_pl  
    Create new character in WAR, level it up to lvl 5 (that's probably state most of beta testers achieved) and start PvP. Then get back here and tell us what you think about PvP skill in WAR with 3 spells avaible.. 

    This is a rather accurate comparison. And even then, Darkfall's combat was significantly more complex than most people realized. They sucked at it, but their opponents did too: only a few people really figured things out during beta, and until there are examples to follow, the majority will do the obvious (spam-click and sprint).

    Once a reasonable portion of the player base understands how to manage stamina, when/why not to run, how good blocking is, etc., it won't look so bland. Once a meaningful number of people have unlocked the higher spell schools, you'll have the damage type vs. armor type dynamic as well.

  • BranXBranX Member UncommonPosts: 79
    Originally posted by ShuttleXpC


    I didn't just blindly vote here, I'll give you some main reasons why War's PvP is better:
    1) Everyone isnt' wearing the same damn armor using the same damn weapons clicking the left mouse button over and over for a kill.
    2) War's PvP is more skill based, in Darkfall you simply see or get 3-4 people to gank a single person then try to revel in the glory.
    When Darkfall adds some more skill to actually killing people, we can all gather here comparing the two. Until then, that 50% Darkfall has are either 1) fanboys, or 2) People who haven't played both.

     

    I lol ;you, your stupid ROFL.

    Darkfall takes no skill? Just mash left click? LOL? The people you fight are currently moving, and it DOES take skill.

    Warhammer failed, everyone thought it was going to be so great, look at it now, everybody says it fails, cause it does!

  • LivettLivett Member Posts: 126

    Where is "neither"?

     

    Also they are both very different from what I can gauge.

  • SeytanSeytan Member Posts: 653

    From what I saw yesterday on that live stream of the game there is no question WAR is better. Why? Simple, you can ACTUALLY PVP! WAR blew chaff in many areas but I never ever had to worry about rubberbanding or out of sync combat. I did see "ghosts" from time to time but never a PC, only the odd mob.

    Watching that live stream was frankly painful, he was getting hit by stuff he never saw, was chasing another player and even though right behind him, failed to strike the enemy even though he WAS RIGHT BEHIND HIM! Pretty lame atm, I hope for the fans sake they fix this stuff, its the single biggest game killer I can imagine.

  • ZerocydeZerocyde Member UncommonPosts: 412

    WoW: Psudo PvP
    Warhammer: RvR
    Darkfall: PvP

    PvP > RvR > Psudo PvP

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  • ChaswickChaswick Member UncommonPosts: 60
    Originally posted by ShuttleXpC Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.

     

    Well it was slated as a PvP game and it failed....WoW actually was, and I hate to say it, better than Warhammer if you played on a PvP server. It had the perfect balance of PvE and PVP up until DF. Warhammer failed to deliever a fun experience in any situation. PvE was the same old thing, PvP was an imbalanced waste of time, and end game content was lack luster at best.

  • jagorhighjagorhigh Member Posts: 43

     

    no... war force you to do RvR! that's different..

     

     

    and for what? so in 2 hours this keep is going to be enemy again? no sence of progression, no danger, no ambition --> no skill.

    Could attract only the weak...

     

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