Originally posted by Seytan From what I saw yesterday on that live stream of the game there is no question WAR is better. Why? Simple, you can ACTUALLY PVP! WAR blew chaff in many areas but I never ever had to worry about rubberbanding or out of sync combat. I did see "ghosts" from time to time but never a PC, only the odd mob. Watching that live stream was frankly painful, he was getting hit by stuff he never saw, was chasing another player and even though right behind him, failed to strike the enemy even though he WAS RIGHT BEHIND HIM! Pretty lame atm, I hope for the fans sake they fix this stuff, its the single biggest game killer I can imagine.
Yea, how freaking stupid of Adventurine to make an MMO with rubberbanding as a feature... DUMB! ASSES!
We should petition them to remove that feature from the game, or else we wont play it!
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
DFO doesn't force PvP on you, It tells you that it's PvP based. You are not forced to buy the game if you don't want 24/7 PvP around.
EDIT: Not sure if they updated since I left but wasn't the best gear ONLY in PvP in War? That's pretty forcing imo.
I didn't just blindly vote here, I'll give you some main reasons why War's PvP is better: 1) Everyone isnt' wearing the same damn armor using the same damn weapons clicking the left mouse button over and over for a kill. 2) War's PvP is more skill based, in Darkfall you simply see or get 3-4 people to gank a single person then try to revel in the glory. When Darkfall adds some more skill to actually killing people, we can all gather here comparing the two. Until then, that 50% Darkfall has are either 1) fanboys, or 2) People who haven't played both.
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
War's best way to defend your realm is to not fight at all, fail on so many levels
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
Hardcore pvpers seem to want it to be force upon you. So in their case, I guess darkfall is a better choice.
DAOC is a great game for sure probably one of the best MMOS.
War isn't DAOC.
Tried war last week once more and I've been bored 5 days after the sub because players avoid ennemy players and only do RvRE (I mean they only attack a castle if there's no players in it, they kill the Lord and they think they played RVR) / This is not RvR. This is PVE.(and a bad one)
I'm not playing DFO because of Aventurine but I found War boring as hell. I prefer playing good pve games than this boring lite RvR game. I'm a casual player, I don't know if DFO will be for me one day but I'm sure War isn't for me.
Warhammer tried to hard to please. Was a post not long ago that players didn't know what was good for them and i agree. There for i am going to try Darkfall when i get the chans.
Bwahaha! That was an awesome post! Thanks for that one.
Warhammer is WoW based, basicly push number's 1 - 9 and pray they loose hp before you.
Darkfall is skilled based FPS style combat with FRIENDLY FIRE, which add's in more element of skill, and yes it is only one botton, but you need to know when to hit and back off.
LOL No one can even play Darkfall, not even the poor folk who paid for the friggin game.
No I can't but I'm also not bitching at Aventurine for bringing down the servers. They are making the attempt to fix the problem. They gave me 3 extra days added onto my free month so I don't care as long as it gets fixed within those 3 days
Warhammer pvp was beyond garbage. Open RvR? What a joke. After me and my friends won our 10,000 bg in a row we all got bored and quit.
I agree that it was garbage. The forts and such came in after the beta testers protested. The game has changed since then though. I do not understand why they did not see that the RVR thing from Daoc was something to go on. They went for a WoW type game with scenarios.
I play War and i am having fun most of the time but the last minute change of direction did hurt the final product.
LOL No one can even play Darkfall, not even the poor folk who paid for the friggin game.
No I can't but I'm also not bitching at Aventurine for bringing down the servers. They are making the attempt to fix the problem. They gave me 3 extra days added onto my free month so I don't care as long as it gets fixed within those 3 days
Warhammer is WoW based, basicly push number's 1 - 9 and pray they loose hp before you. Darkfall is skilled based FPS style combat with FRIENDLY FIRE, which add's in more element of skill, and yes it is only one botton, but you need to know when to hit and back off. done. oh ya, WAR is cookie-cutter tbh.
define skill.. locate enemy, make sure your not hitting friendly , lmb , is that skill?
isnt it the same in wow also ? , bunny jump around enemy hit 1-9 ( hmm thats more than lmb ) , please help me understand skillz!
Warhammer is WoW based, basicly push number's 1 - 9 and pray they loose hp before you. Darkfall is skilled based FPS style combat with FRIENDLY FIRE, which add's in more element of skill, and yes it is only one botton, but you need to know when to hit and back off. done. oh ya, WAR is cookie-cutter tbh.
define skill.. locate enemy, make sure your not hitting friendly , lmb , is that skill?
isnt it the same in wow also ? , bunny jump around enemy hit 1-9 ( hmm thats more than lmb ) , please help me understand skillz!
Thank you dumbing down what i just posted GG .... gg....
Does this work as a definition? I posted on page 2.
So in DFO you don't have to worry about hitting or getting hit by your teammates, cooldowns on spells or potions, actually hitting the target you are aiming at instead of the game auto-aiming for you, have I left anything out? Oh you have to watch your stamina. So DFO is just click click click I understand your position now.
lol @ this topic. Warhammer is nothing but a collection of mini-games. The game fails on almost every level. It's a good time waster if you're bored with WOW but it doesn't deserve to be called a PvP game.
Warhammer is WoW based, basicly push number's 1 - 9 and pray they loose hp before you. Darkfall is skilled based FPS style combat with FRIENDLY FIRE, which add's in more element of skill, and yes it is only one botton, but you need to know when to hit and back off. done. oh ya, WAR is cookie-cutter tbh.
You obviously haven't played a melee class in any other MMO if you think knowing when to hit and when to back off is something unique to Darkfall.
Age of Conan was one game where you could completely screw up someone's alpha just by moving back when you anticipated it, and that had 1-9 cooldowns too.
lol @ this topic. Warhammer is nothing but a collection of mini-games. The game fails on almost every level. It's a good time waster if you're bored with WOW but it doesn't deserve to be called a PvP game.
Haha yeah this is so true. They try to stimulate open RvR when they have battlegrounds and no death penalties. Who saw that failure coming.
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Yea, how freaking stupid of Adventurine to make an MMO with rubberbanding as a feature... DUMB! ASSES!
We should petition them to remove that feature from the game, or else we wont play it!
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
DFO doesn't force PvP on you, It tells you that it's PvP based. You are not forced to buy the game if you don't want 24/7 PvP around.
EDIT: Not sure if they updated since I left but wasn't the best gear ONLY in PvP in War? That's pretty forcing imo.
I lol @ ;you, your stupid ROFL.
Darkfall takes no skill? Just mash left click? LOL? The people you fight are currently moving, and it DOES take skill.
Warhammer failed, everyone thought it was going to be so great, look at it now, everybody says it fails, cause it does!
Magic spells look like seriouss skills imo .. look at mob , press lmb , hear doom1 sound , watch blue ball of light fly( again something from doom ) , wait 10 secs , hear doom2 sound.
imba skills just right there.
Considering I can only play Warhammer Online right now, I'll have to go with that. Talk to me again when I can play Darkfall for more than 1 hour.
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
War's best way to defend your realm is to not fight at all, fail on so many levels
Thanks EA mythic for backstabbing your fan base!
Warhammer has RvR. Sorry if running around spamming the left mouse button is more your style, I prefer the "oh so easymode" skill system where you have to pay attention to position, cooldowns, what kind of damage so it is not mitigated, etc., etc.
Yeah skill based ftw! God forbid you use your brain while fighting.
Obviously you haven't played Darkfall. Your character is a nub at the begining....you have to take time to skill them up. You aren't given everything to you on a silver platter. WoW really has pussified the gaming community hasn't it? DAoC had RvR and it was awesome. You were forced into it if you went out of your kingdom. Warhammer has RvR which is optional and all around fail.
Which is another reason many here are saying WAR's is better. They don't force it on you, and its not a huge feature...yet its better then a game that has its main focus as PvP.
Hardcore pvpers seem to want it to be force upon you. So in their case, I guess darkfall is a better choice.
Servers were up for about 12 hours. Your fault if you only played an hour.
War is a lite rvr game for non pvpers .
DAOC is a great game for sure probably one of the best MMOS.
War isn't DAOC.
Tried war last week once more and I've been bored 5 days after the sub because players avoid ennemy players and only do RvRE (I mean they only attack a castle if there's no players in it, they kill the Lord and they think they played RVR) / This is not RvR. This is PVE.(and a bad one)
I'm not playing DFO because of Aventurine but I found War boring as hell. I prefer playing good pve games than this boring lite RvR game. I'm a casual player, I don't know if DFO will be for me one day but I'm sure War isn't for me.
I played HypeHammer.
I should have made note they always mentioned RvR and never really mentioned PVP....because it ain't there.
And that's the reason i play it.
This is true. Here's a better comparison:
Bwahaha! That was an awesome post! Thanks for that one.
Warhammer pvp was beyond garbage. Open RvR? What a joke. After me and my friends won our 10,000 bg in a row we all got bored and quit.
LOL
No one can even play Darkfall, not even the poor folk who paid for the friggin game.
Warhammer is WoW based, basicly push number's 1 - 9 and pray they loose hp before you.
Darkfall is skilled based FPS style combat with FRIENDLY FIRE, which add's in more element of skill, and yes it is only one botton, but you need to know when to hit and back off.
done.
oh ya, WAR is cookie-cutter tbh.
http://acominos.evony.com <- if your bored at work
No I can't but I'm also not bitching at Aventurine for bringing down the servers. They are making the attempt to fix the problem. They gave me 3 extra days added onto my free month so I don't care as long as it gets fixed within those 3 days
I agree that it was garbage. The forts and such came in after the beta testers protested. The game has changed since then though. I do not understand why they did not see that the RVR thing from Daoc was something to go on. They went for a WoW type game with scenarios.
I play War and i am having fun most of the time but the last minute change of direction did hurt the final product.
No I can't but I'm also not bitching at Aventurine for bringing down the servers. They are making the attempt to fix the problem. They gave me 3 extra days added onto my free month so I don't care as long as it gets fixed within those 3 days
One more day left!
define skill.. locate enemy, make sure your not hitting friendly , lmb , is that skill?
isnt it the same in wow also ? , bunny jump around enemy hit 1-9 ( hmm thats more than lmb ) , please help me understand skillz!
define skill.. locate enemy, make sure your not hitting friendly , lmb , is that skill?
isnt it the same in wow also ? , bunny jump around enemy hit 1-9 ( hmm thats more than lmb ) , please help me understand skillz!
Thank you dumbing down what i just posted GG .... gg....
http://acominos.evony.com <- if your bored at work
Does this work as a definition? I posted on page 2.
So in DFO you don't have to worry about hitting or getting hit by your teammates, cooldowns on spells or potions, actually hitting the target you are aiming at instead of the game auto-aiming for you, have I left anything out? Oh you have to watch your stamina. So DFO is just click click click I understand your position now.
lol @ this topic. Warhammer is nothing but a collection of mini-games. The game fails on almost every level. It's a good time waster if you're bored with WOW but it doesn't deserve to be called a PvP game.
You obviously haven't played a melee class in any other MMO if you think knowing when to hit and when to back off is something unique to Darkfall.
Age of Conan was one game where you could completely screw up someone's alpha just by moving back when you anticipated it, and that had 1-9 cooldowns too.
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Darkfall's PvP by far. I laugh at the state of people saying you just spam left click for kills in darkfall.
Haha yeah this is so true. They try to stimulate open RvR when they have battlegrounds and no death penalties. Who saw that failure coming.