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  • TalRashaTalRasha Member UncommonPosts: 827
    Originally posted by Elemento


     Period.



     

    There you have it folks, no more discussion possible in this topic. He said Period.

    And he can know that Darkfall will not suffer more cheats than other mmorpgs, because he is from the future. So don't even try to continue discussion you bunch of studs.

    Period.

  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

  • Zayne3145Zayne3145 Member Posts: 1,448
    Originally posted by TalRasha

    Originally posted by Elemento


     Period.



     

    There you have it folks, no more discussion possible in this topic. He said Period.

    And he can know that Darkfall will not suffer more cheats than other mmorpgs, because he is from the future. So don't even try to continue discussion you bunch of studs.

    Period.

     

    Need ... to ... speak ... but ... can't ...

    *Period crits you for 50,000 (Crushing Punctuation)*.

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  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by Maelwydd

    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by Sturmrabe

    Originally posted by Elemento


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    LOL, had to shut your mouth, eh?

    You fail at fanboi trolling because there are other fanbois on this forums posting that they frapsed a speedhacker and he got banned...

    Though, no MMO company ever has announced "X player account was banned" so there is no way for him to know...

     

    There are a lot of lying fanbois spreading disinformation, either no one has seen it, or the fanbois defending the game have seen it and report supposed quick action to prop up confidence in AV. Someone is lying, probably all of the fanbois...



     

    Wouldn't really call myself a fanboi. I just learned about Darkfall a week ago. I am pretty sick of people trashing Darkfall. Especially seeing as how 99% percent of the people trashing it, haven't played it. Like you. ^.^

    I hear holding a loaded shotgun to your chin and pulling the trigger is bad for your health. I have not tried it but that is what people say. Am i wrong to listen to others?

    I think I will listen to the consensus of opinion about Darkfall too. Sometimes you don't have to try something to realise, using common sense and listenning to general opinion , that something is a bad idea.

     



     

    The only difference is - no one is disputing that shooting your chin with a shotgun is bad for your health. But nah, you've clearly drawn a solid comparison here as to why you're able to trash a game without playing it.



     

    Guess I will just have to save my money and kick myself with every post I read about Darkfall then. The question is: -

    Would I rather sit back now and perhaps buy the game later should it turn out to be a very good game and kick myself for missing out on playing for so long

    Or

    Buy the game now and kick myself for wasting money, looking like a dick for ignoring the overwhelming popular opinion

    Tough choice, but I think I will delay having fun but also save my money rather then risk wasting my money and being proven to be an arse for not listenning.

    But good on you to sticvking to your guns in the face of reason

     

     

  • warppwarpp Member Posts: 258
    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch

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  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by TalRasha

    Originally posted by Elemento


     Period.



     

    There you have it folks, no more discussion possible in this topic. He said Period.

    And he can know that Darkfall will not suffer more cheats than other mmorpgs, because he is from the future. So don't even try to continue discussion you bunch of studs.

    Period.



     

    You know what? If it would calm the amount of irrationality surrounding this "fanatic" cult of flamers who insist that darkfall is a "paradise" for hackers, then yeah. I am from the future. I am mother f*cking Space Ghost.

  • Syyth007Syyth007 Member Posts: 250

     

    I don't think anyone will deny that there are other hacks available for other games, only difference is we've yet to see how Aventurine can handle the problem. Most of the other AAA titles have the resources to aggressively ban any and all hack problems. I remember not too long ago seeing naked lvl 1 gnomes warping through high lvl content grabbing chests, and resources.. I haven't seen any in quite some time now. There are other videos, now, on youtube that display speedhacking people that are not ads from the well known hacker site (which, by the way, will steal your mmo accounts if you run their program while playing DF..or any other mmo It's happened to a few people already, which I believe they deserve for trying to cheat).

     

    The real problem with some of the speedhacks is that they are hard to notice, as the person is running at normal speed, but just not using stamina. If you pay attention, they will turn, backpedal, slightly faster then normal. Very rarely will you see some complete noob flaring across the world at 2-4x the normal speed. Many cheaters will only use the hacks in certain situations, and in ways that it would be a bit hard to detect, just giving themselves a stamina edge in fights rather then an actual "speed" improvement.

     

     

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

     

    I like your labels better! Stud was really good!

    Really.. if you aren't worried about  macroing and hacking being rampant in Darkfall.. don't know what else tos say. But you will experience it, I have no doubt about it, if you play the game.

  • warppwarpp Member Posts: 258
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by TalRasha

    Originally posted by Elemento


     Period.



     

    There you have it folks, no more discussion possible in this topic. He said Period.

    And he can know that Darkfall will not suffer more cheats than other mmorpgs, because he is from the future. So don't even try to continue discussion you bunch of studs.

    Period.



     

    You know what? If it would calm the amount of irrationality surrounding this "fanatic" cult of flamers who insist that darkfall is a "paradise" for hackers, then yeah. I am from the future. I am mother f*cking Space Ghost.

    Don't take it personel ..lol.

    Why put yourself through this when you have a whole DF forum that shares your views,who are you trying to convince here?

    I think i hear Tasos calling you back to forums.darkfallonline.com/

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  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

    The point here is that other companies have the resources to stop the hacking, Adventurine does not.  What starts out to be a few number of people will snowball if the first few cannot be snuffed out.

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  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

    The logical conclusion to be drawn is that perhaps the others games don't have these problems to the extent that DF has. And perhaps you don't see so much uproar because people realise a large game is able to deal with these hacks better then an indie company. And perhaps people worry more about the hacks in DF because of the way the game uses so much client data to control these things as opposed to server side so the chances of detection and repvention are that much smaller.

     

    You may not like the fact that people are ripping into the game but it is happenning because the problems is there, doesn't look like going away and the company have so far don't a piss poor job of releaseing and maintaining the game

  • Syyth007Syyth007 Member Posts: 250

    I agree, as in I believe some people have ran with the "hacking in DF" topic. Right now, it is possible, but it's not an epidemic. I have heard rumors that some vigilant players are frapsing speedhackers, reporting them with proof, and the "cheaters" getting banned. Some people saw that "ad" on youtube, and think "everyone" is hacking.. Just to note here, that "site" that everyone has seen posted here WILL steal your MMO accounts.. If you naively registered/downloaded their program, I'd delete it, and change all of your passwords.. There software may work, but you really trust a community of "hackers"? I definitely wouldn't. But back on topic.. As long as Aventurine sets anti-cheating as one of their priorities, it can be handled. If they ignore the problem, which it seems they are not ignoring it, then it could get much worse, but it isn't nearly as "infested" with cheaters as some would have you believe.

     

  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62

    EVE started out with around the same capital as an indy company, and they're able to effectively deal with hacking. There's no reason why DF shouldn't be able to do the same. Client side or not, which I'm sure EVE is quite a bit client side reliant as well.

  • SturmrabeSturmrabe Member Posts: 927
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

    You are a liar and a hypocrite.

    You are NOT saying "Has anyone seen a hacker" you are saying "No one has ever seen a hacker", positing a fact as truth, not an inquiry.

     Fuck, I don't even have to put the lie to what you just said, the title of the thread itself contradicts you!

    You selfowned for two pages now unraveling your own bullshit.

     

    GTFO.

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  • ianicusianicus Member UncommonPosts: 665
    Originally posted by Elemento


    EVE started out with around the same capital as an indy company, and they're able to effectively deal with hacking. There's no reason why DF shouldn't be able to do the same. Client side or not, which I'm sure EVE is quite a bit client side reliant as well.



     

    wow you dont know JACK about EVE man....this leads me to belive to dont know jack about much at all....opinion fail.

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  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by Sturmrabe

    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

    You are a liar and a hypocrite.

    You are NOT saying "Has anyone seen a hacker" you are saying "No one has ever seen a hacker", positing a fact as truth, not an inquiry.

     Fuck, I don't even have to put the lie to what you just said, the title of the thread itself contradicts you!

    You selfowned for two pages now unraveling your own bullshit.

     

    GTFO.



     

    lol, yup. You got me! You win.. Christ, what have I been doing with my life up to this point? All those posts I made on this topic.. God.. I need to get my head straight. Can you recommend me to a good psychiatrist? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show this community even a handful of first-hand accounts of people who've seen hackers?

  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by Sturmrabe

    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

    You are a liar and a hypocrite.

    You are NOT saying "Has anyone seen a hacker" you are saying "No one has ever seen a hacker", positing a fact as truth, not an inquiry.

     Fuck, I don't even have to put the lie to what you just said, the title of the thread itself contradicts you!

    You selfowned for two pages now unraveling your own bullshit.

     

    GTFO.



     

    lol, yup. You got me! You win.. Christ, what have I been doing with my life up to this point? All those posts I made on this topic.. God.. I need to get my head straight. Can you recommend me to a good psychiatrist? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show this community even a handful of first-hand accounts of people who've seen hackers?

    2 points...

     

    Use search and find them yourself.

    /ignore

  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by ianicus

    Originally posted by Elemento


    EVE started out with around the same capital as an indy company, and they're able to effectively deal with hacking. There's no reason why DF shouldn't be able to do the same. Client side or not, which I'm sure EVE is quite a bit client side reliant as well.



     

    wow you dont know JACK about EVE man....this leads me to belive to dont know jack about much at all....opinion fail.



     

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCP_Games  :) Total indy company. That's what I love about Eve. They made themselves a success without big funding based off of solid gameplay and grassroot efforts.

  • warppwarpp Member Posts: 258
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

    We are not the ones who started this thread and it's not about hacks in other games it's about you starting a dumb thread without doing your research first.

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  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593
    Originally posted by Elemento


    I really wish people would stop blowing smoke up the arse of people who are interested in playing this game. I haven't seen a single thread of anyone who's actually SEEN a hacker in this game. Have you?

     

    Yes, actually we got attacked by a clan that had a few people hacking.

    Reported them to the GMs (which by the way took less then 20 seconds to respond), supplied fraps proof, and BAM, haven't seen them in game since.

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

    Couple of things factor into this.

     

     

    Newness of the game.  DarkFall has been out a week. 

    I don't recall the same speed which these popped up for DarkFall with other MMOs.

     

    Amount of players in DarkFall.  They have 7k+/- users currently.  A few hackers in a population that small is A LOT bigger problem than a game with 10-100x that amount. 

    One thing in their favor though... with a population that small... the chances of finding and catching the hackers increases.

     

    Ultimately Aventurine will need to fix the root cause of what is allowing the hacking.  Just catching and banning the hackers without fixing the root cause will eventually be a loosing propositon for them.   The sooner they get the hole fixed the better for the game. 

  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    You need to make up your mind instead of playing the rabid fanboy.

    What do you think of my little vid?

     

    www.youtube.com/watch



     

    Dude, valid video. No question. But again, there are a few videos on youtube like this for every game. But there isn't this much hype over every game being infested with hackers. Doesn't seem right to me. Does it to you?

    We are not the ones who started this thread and it's not about hacks in other games it's about you starting a dumb thread without doing your research first.



     

    I've done my research warpp. That's why I felt I could OP this forum on the topic.

  • ElementoElemento Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by Kasmos

    Originally posted by Elemento


    I really wish people would stop blowing smoke up the arse of people who are interested in playing this game. I haven't seen a single thread of anyone who's actually SEEN a hacker in this game. Have you?

     

    Yes, actually we got attacked by a clan that had a few people hacking.

    Reported them to the GMs (which by the way took less then 20 seconds to respond), supplied fraps proof, and BAM, haven't seen them in game since.



     

    6 PAGES AND FINALLY THE FIRST ACTUAL FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF HACKING!!! Nice that it got resolved quick! ^.^

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by Sturmrabe

    Originally posted by Elemento

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Elemento


    Do the same search for "world of warcraft speed hack".
    Then do that same search for every mmo you've ever loved. Hacking won't be more rampant in this game than in any other mmo. Period.

     

    Oh so there are hacks now? You were saying they weren't at the start of the thread... you should consider not being such a fanatic. Fanatism denies rationality.



     

    I love your labels! "Fanatic"; a "Paradise" for hackers; I never denied hacking exists in darkfall. It does exist. There are youtube videos. What I'm saying is... has ANYONE SEEN A HACKER FIRST HAND? If not, then this is probably not the problem people are blowing it up to be.

    A couple of youtube videos on hacking exist for every MMO out there after all.

    You are a liar and a hypocrite.

    You are NOT saying "Has anyone seen a hacker" you are saying "No one has ever seen a hacker", positing a fact as truth, not an inquiry.

     Fuck, I don't even have to put the lie to what you just said, the title of the thread itself contradicts you!

    You selfowned for two pages now unraveling your own bullshit.

     

    GTFO.



     

    lol, yup. You got me! You win.. Christ, what have I been doing with my life up to this point? All those posts I made on this topic.. God.. I need to get my head straight. Can you recommend me to a good psychiatrist? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show this community even a handful of first-hand accounts of people who've seen hackers?

    You are kidding right?  Just because someone doesn't know another that has seen hacking first hand does not mean it isn't happening.  The point of the matter is that someone has seen hacking first hand, videos do not generate themselves you know.

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