There are more than ten reasons why AoC went straight into the Bargain Bin.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
There are more than ten reasons why AoC went straight into the Bargain Bin.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
Well, EVE just had a major graphics overhall last year and they are tweaking it a bit more in this months update.
But I agree, content can and has been added, and in some ways AOC is not the same game it was at launch.
But keep in mind, some parts haven't changed, including its heavily instanced nature which some players really abhor.
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I don't mind the instanced gameplay, and as they said. As the game gets optimized over time the Instances will dissapear. like major cities. Everyone is in that zone and they have no other instances.
I know a lot of you will flame me for this and say "AoC sux, it failed" but that's because most of you haven't played the game recently. So here is why AoC is the best game on the MMO market right now, in no particular order: 1. The combat is smooth, dynamic and engrossing. IMO the combat completely draws you in and makes you feel in control of your character. Fatalities just give you feeling that you can't really define until you've done a few or have had them done to you. 2. Sieges are hell of a lot of fun and there is something real at stake (FYI they are working about 90% of the time, haven't seen a bugged siege since the last patch but I'm being cautious. Also this point is aimed at WAR where sieges are basically objective swaps for reknown) 3. The graphics are beautiful, better than any MMO on the market by far. 4. Guild owned Keeps make for politics, warfare, alliances, enemies, treacheries and all the rest of the things that people rave about in other games. (DF I'm aiming at you here, AoC has the guild politics already and not many ppl realize this). 5. Servers are healthy after the merges. 6. Raid content, though not the best of MMO's out there, presents end-game alternatives and more is being added by the month. 7. Character customization is by far more detailed than any other MMO, to the point where you can recognize chars by their faces alone. 8. Gear doesn't make a big difference in your performance. 9. Great Community, ironically because the game population has contracted, only the dedicated have stayed and it has made for a great community. 10. Funcom has failed in the release of this game, but things have turned around for the better and the game is improving significantly with each patch and content addition.
Counterpoints:
#1: The combat system has been re-arranged and adjusted so often that it is true evidence that they have no idea what they are doing. If you liked it before you probably hate it now and if you hated it before you may like it now...but ultimately you won't know what it will be like 3 months from now.
#2: Sieges are better now and are generally working. More like 75% than 90% though.
#3: Yep
#4: Guild warfare is only good with a healthy population and judging by the forums there are only three servers left with any true conflicts. (Cimmeria, Tyranny, Wiccana). Ironspine, Gwahlur, Agony, Bloodspire, and Set do not have the populations (still) to support truly compelling guild warfare.
#5: See #4. The populations are only healthy on 3 NA servers out of 8.
#6: Raid content continues to be borked. Read the raid boards...75% of the posts are complaints about broken loot, encounters and group stability.
#7: Character customization in AoC sucks. Sorry. In terms of visuals it is no better/worse than many (like EQ2) but in terms of actual customization of the substantive portions of the character it is horrid.
#8: This is a flaw not a plus.
#9: Great community is in the eye of the beholder. No better/worse than any other.
#10: Isn't a feature but is a testimony to the improvements of AoC...which would only be true if the game was improving substantially. It hasn't...so Funcom's track record can hardly be considered a plus.
So ya...you have graphics and nifty sieges. I would have included the music too!
There are more than ten reasons why AoC went straight into the Bargain Bin.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
same happened to me with my first character, after leaving Tortage and based on what people say on forums, i expected to find ZERO quests... but guess what? it was the opposit, i did ZERO grinding all the way to lvl 40, yes ZERO grinding, i only grinded when i was exploring or when i was looking for a cooler drop...
i was overwhelmed with quests, once my toon was 40 and ready to move on with crafting and getting a mount, my journal was STILL FULL OF QUESTS from lvls 20~30 and even from Tortage !
so i dont know what those people are complaining about?
7. Character customization is by far more detailed than any other MMO, to the point where you can recognize chars by their faces alone.
No it's not. It is far too limited for what the game could allow you to do. It's a serious shame those sliders don't do much of anything and the choice of faces and hair could have been a lot wider. There's other mmos that allow for more customization then this.
Other then that yes it is a wonderful game.
City of Heroes has a much better char customisation feature,also Champions Online seems to have a good one too.
Considering the type of game AoC is, and CoX and CO are superflashy comic book games, the fact that AoC is even close to them says a lot! Sure, in overall customization CoH is #1 still, and AoC is #2, but not #2 by a huge margin, and whoever you put at #3 is going to be a FAR AND AWAY #3...
Far away? Aion is already released in Korea and will be here in some months, it's character creation will leave all previous attempts at customization in the dust, except for City of Heroes. Fallen Earth in beta already beats Age of Conan hand down, also expected to release some time this year.
I really don't think AoC is number 2, maybe Vanguard or maybe these are tied since V has no hairstyles. EQ2 might actually be the exact same as Conan. Sliders don't do much but they do enough to create 4-5 templates.
i was overwhelmed with quests, once my toon was 40 and ready to move on with crafting and getting a mount, my journal was STILL FULL OF QUESTS from lvls 20~30 and even from Tortage ! so i dont know what those people are complaining about?
I have no idea what the hell they were talking about when they said there no more quests. I think what the impression was, was that because these quests were not all voiced it was all of a sudden a bad thing. And that the side quests were pretty much like most MMOs: "Kill me this and I'll give you this" type of fedex stuff. Even though that's basically what you can expect of an MMO, you want sweeping story lines all the fracking time you're not playing the right game, single player RPG is what you're looking for.
People will find anything to complain about. That is the moral here. ^_^
There are more than ten reasons why AoC went straight into the Bargain Bin.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
The quest gap wasnt right after Tortage it was much later. It is rumored to have been fixed which doesnt change that it was there as admitted by both FC and honest fanboys.
That is where that info came from and it was very factual.
For the record if someone disliked the game because they said they ran out or quests at 30-40 then they probably had missed a hub of quests or just wanted to complain. Some said it was around 75 which I found was very over optimistic. The truth in the first few months was that there was agap, they announced Ymir's was meant to fix some of that and announced it would be released in August. If memory serves me it wasnt. THAT is why some were really turned off my the quest gap.
Yes..there is plenty to do after tortage. AoC is a beautiful game and many people love to play it. Doomspeakers can go cry in the corner..if they can break away from their mother's teet long enough. Those of us that actually appreciate the world spawned from the mind of Robert E. Howard...and do not suffer from A.D.D and lack of imagination will continue to enjoy the game.
Heh that's the one thing I totally disagree on, the content is magnificent. I love the writing.
Fair enough, it's all objective of course. I just found that, while they had voice overs and some decent background stories, the acual quests ended up still being the same old same old. Just my opinion though.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Boy there certainly is a person or group of people that are really trying to push the whole "AOC is da bestest!!11!!" agenda. Here's 3 reasons why I thought it was(and is) terrible. 1) Combat was awkward, tedious, and boring. 2) Instances killed the feeling of an online world. 3) Content is incredibly boring.
I, for one, do not think it is the "bestest game"....I think its a good game. My main issue is when someone ..I mean anyone..comes on to say even the slightest complement..it could even be cloaked in a negative statement..like " Tried it...not the best game...liked the combat animations..probably won't play it again"...there are immediately a barrage of...Sux...Failcom...no players...no quests..no endgame comments ...mostly from people who tried the game at or right after launch. Your reply was fine...It doesn't bother me if people reply...state points as to why the didnt like the game . That's reasonable. Unlike you....most just come to disparage funcom,Aoc and the players...instead of going to the forum of the game they actually like to play. If there is one.
As for your points....I agreed at first with #1...but it grew on me and now seems smoother and some strategy can be used...it's not a chess game but takes slightly more effort than other games I've played. #2...kind of agree...understand the use of them to maintain graphic quality...wish there were not so many tho. #3..so far..no problem with content...but i am only 30th level..that my change..from the chatter while playing tho..it won't change for a while.
Boy there certainly is a person or group of people that are really trying to push the whole "AOC is da bestest!!11!!" agenda. Here's 3 reasons why I thought it was(and is) terrible. 1) Combat was awkward, tedious, and boring. 2) Instances killed the feeling of an online world. 3) Content is incredibly boring.
I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
Boy there certainly is a person or group of people that are really trying to push the whole "AOC is da bestest!!11!!" agenda. Here's 3 reasons why I thought it was(and is) terrible. 1) Combat was awkward, tedious, and boring. 2) Instances killed the feeling of an online world. 3) Content is incredibly boring.
I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
1. You guys are either high or haven't actually played the game at later levels. The combat is intense and while a lot of people complain about combos, the number of steps was reduced a few months ago, and combos mean that you have to decide carefully which ability to use because of directional shielding and timing etc. It means you can't just sit there and spam a button and go afk while you're in the middle of battle. Unless you like the auto-attack style of combat I don't know what you are talking about. If you are going to make statements like this please back them up with something substantiative.
2. I agree on instances, it's the one thing in the game that really still bothers me to this day. But it was a design trade-off.
3. You haven't played the game recently, I have played since release and spend most of my time as a level 80 PvP'ing all over the place. My guess is you've never taken part in a siege nor been part of an active guild that was competing for a BK. Those two things make up for a huge amount of the PvP end-game content.
But I shouldn't really try because the people that are flaming either
- Haven't played the game since launch. And I admit the game had many problems at launch but it is not the same game. I can tell because many of their concerns have already been addressed or are not valid anymore.
- Have not and probably cannot think long enough to actually put down valid reasons. I haven't seen one post in 7 pages that can point to another MMO to counter my arguments. I didn't say AoC was a perfect game, but please let me know what other options you got.
Boy there certainly is a person or group of people that are really trying to push the whole "AOC is da bestest!!11!!" agenda. Here's 3 reasons why I thought it was(and is) terrible. 1) Combat was awkward, tedious, and boring. 2) Instances killed the feeling of an online world. 3) Content is incredibly boring.
I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
1) From your comment and the way you smash buttons, you fail to understand the combo combat system, sorry. In fact it is opposite to auto attack, which is boring.
2) Are those the same instances that are in EQ2? To be honest i have never had a problem with the instancing of the main areas of the map.
3)Bit out of touch on this point me thinks, although i have not reached max level.
I so want to play AoC but here is my problem: Im not sure my computer can run it in all it's splendor. I have an AMD 3800+ single core processor with a new motherboard and a 9500GT card from Nvidia. I have rebuilt it somewhat, I can run Warhammer pretty well and actually run Fallout 3 and Crysis on medium to high settings and Crysis is a beast. What do you guys think, can I run AoC decent?
After I read the whole original post, I see you failed to mention the entire world is instanced. I tried AoC, and never picked it back up again after finding out the above fact. It didn't feel like a living world with all the instancing. The instant portals to travel to other instances was real immersive as well ... bleh.
1. You guys are either high or haven't actually played the game at later levels. The combat is intense and while a lot of people complain about combos, the number of steps was reduced a few months ago, and combos mean that you have to decide carefully which ability to use because of directional shielding and timing etc. It means you can't just sit there and spam a button and go afk while you're in the middle of battle. Unless you like the auto-attack style of combat I don't know what you are talking about. If you are going to make statements like this please back them up with something substantiative.
2. I agree on instances, it's the one thing in the game that really still bothers me to this day. But it was a design trade-off.
3. You haven't played the game recently, I have played since release and spend most of my time as a level 80 PvP'ing all over the place. My guess is you've never taken part in a siege nor been part of an active guild that was competing for a BK. Those two things make up for a huge amount of the PvP end-game content.
But I shouldn't really try because the people that are flaming either
- Haven't played the game since launch. And I admit the game had many problems at launch but it is not the same game. I can tell because many of their concerns have already been addressed or are not valid anymore.
- Have not and probably cannot think long enough to actually put down valid reasons. I haven't seen one post in 7 pages that can point to another MMO to counter my arguments. I didn't say AoC was a perfect game, but please let me know what other options you got.
I just hate it when someone tells me that I haven't played endgame or I don't have an active account, bla.. bla..
Listen buddy, I've probably played this game a whole lot more than you. I started in beta and have played hundreds of hours since launch. I quit before Christmas last year along with almost everyone on my server. I decited to come back to check if AoC had improved enough for me to be interested in playing again. It's not.
I still have an active account, about 3 weeks left.
Did you know that it's possible for someone to have an active account and be negative about AoC? Or do you think everyone who is playing is loving it?
1. Ok, you like the combat system. Good for your. But guess what? Not everyone likes it. And it's not about them not understanding it or anything, it's about them not liking it! Combo system was good back in the day in beta but they changed it. Gaute changed it. Remember that delay we got?
3. I am well aware of the endgame in AoC. I have 3 level 80 characters. Again.. you like sieges. Good for you. I don't like it. And I know TONS of other people who also don't like sieges.
What I'm trying to say to you is that it's all about personal preference. Remember that mass exodus? When something like 95% of players quit? Maybe you belong to that 5%? Maybe YOU are in the minority of players who like AoC. Maybe YOU are "weird" because you like it?
on a more serious note. majority of the people left because something was wrong. if they've started the game with its current state things may have been different. but thats a train long past, just wave good bye and deal with what you have.
on a more serious note. majority of the people left because something was wrong. if they've started the game with its current state things may have been different. but thats a train long past, just wave good bye and deal with what you have.
Lol I love Dilbert. It's funny because it's true
I don't know the exact numbers but I believe at one point AoC had 800k subs? And didn't that Norwegian investment guy say that AoC has about 75k subs? I would imagine he has some credible sources. Anonymous forum freaks might invent their own numbers but I doubt an invester banker would.
Whatever the real number is, it's probably pretty close to 90% and that's a lot.
I so want to play AoC but here is my problem: Im not sure my computer can run it in all it's splendor. I have an AMD 3800+ single core processor with a new motherboard and a 9500GT card from Nvidia. I have rebuilt it somewhat, I can run Warhammer pretty well and actually run Fallout 3 and Crysis on medium to high settings and Crysis is a beast. What do you guys think, can I run AoC decent?
Yes you can.
About numbers, people left the game for 2 reasons as far as I can tell: 1. the game wasn't stable enough for them to play it. 2. People were told they were getting a cadillac and were delivered a chevy. O rmaybe it's like a half done cadillac, but either way as a customer they didn't get what they expected.
The PR didn't help. I now hate hype, I'd rather just get regular low profile updates on how the game development is proceding,
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Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
Where is boobies, i thought that was the n°1 reason why this game was the jesus 2.0
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
Well, EVE just had a major graphics overhall last year and they are tweaking it a bit more in this months update.
But I agree, content can and has been added, and in some ways AOC is not the same game it was at launch.
But keep in mind, some parts haven't changed, including its heavily instanced nature which some players really abhor.
(not me actually)
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I don't mind the instanced gameplay, and as they said. As the game gets optimized over time the Instances will dissapear. like major cities. Everyone is in that zone and they have no other instances.
Counterpoints:
#1: The combat system has been re-arranged and adjusted so often that it is true evidence that they have no idea what they are doing. If you liked it before you probably hate it now and if you hated it before you may like it now...but ultimately you won't know what it will be like 3 months from now.
#2: Sieges are better now and are generally working. More like 75% than 90% though.
#3: Yep
#4: Guild warfare is only good with a healthy population and judging by the forums there are only three servers left with any true conflicts. (Cimmeria, Tyranny, Wiccana). Ironspine, Gwahlur, Agony, Bloodspire, and Set do not have the populations (still) to support truly compelling guild warfare.
#5: See #4. The populations are only healthy on 3 NA servers out of 8.
#6: Raid content continues to be borked. Read the raid boards...75% of the posts are complaints about broken loot, encounters and group stability.
#7: Character customization in AoC sucks. Sorry. In terms of visuals it is no better/worse than many (like EQ2) but in terms of actual customization of the substantive portions of the character it is horrid.
#8: This is a flaw not a plus.
#9: Great community is in the eye of the beholder. No better/worse than any other.
#10: Isn't a feature but is a testimony to the improvements of AoC...which would only be true if the game was improving substantially. It hasn't...so Funcom's track record can hardly be considered a plus.
So ya...you have graphics and nifty sieges. I would have included the music too!
Boggle. The game is very mediocre, sorry.
Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
same happened to me with my first character, after leaving Tortage and based on what people say on forums, i expected to find ZERO quests... but guess what? it was the opposit, i did ZERO grinding all the way to lvl 40, yes ZERO grinding, i only grinded when i was exploring or when i was looking for a cooler drop...
i was overwhelmed with quests, once my toon was 40 and ready to move on with crafting and getting a mount, my journal was STILL FULL OF QUESTS from lvls 20~30 and even from Tortage !
so i dont know what those people are complaining about?
No it's not. It is far too limited for what the game could allow you to do. It's a serious shame those sliders don't do much of anything and the choice of faces and hair could have been a lot wider. There's other mmos that allow for more customization then this.
Other then that yes it is a wonderful game.
City of Heroes has a much better char customisation feature,also Champions Online seems to have a good one too.
Considering the type of game AoC is, and CoX and CO are superflashy comic book games, the fact that AoC is even close to them says a lot! Sure, in overall customization CoH is #1 still, and AoC is #2, but not #2 by a huge margin, and whoever you put at #3 is going to be a FAR AND AWAY #3...
Far away? Aion is already released in Korea and will be here in some months, it's character creation will leave all previous attempts at customization in the dust, except for City of Heroes. Fallen Earth in beta already beats Age of Conan hand down, also expected to release some time this year.
I really don't think AoC is number 2, maybe Vanguard or maybe these are tied since V has no hairstyles. EQ2 might actually be the exact same as Conan. Sliders don't do much but they do enough to create 4-5 templates.
Anyway who really cares?
Other then me that is.
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I have no idea what the hell they were talking about when they said there no more quests. I think what the impression was, was that because these quests were not all voiced it was all of a sudden a bad thing. And that the side quests were pretty much like most MMOs: "Kill me this and I'll give you this" type of fedex stuff. Even though that's basically what you can expect of an MMO, you want sweeping story lines all the fracking time you're not playing the right game, single player RPG is what you're looking for.
People will find anything to complain about. That is the moral here. ^_^
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Yeah somehow the customers don't see Age of Conan as "the best MMO on the Market" since you can buy it for 5 bucks
Gotta love these threads started by "honeymooners" who have a level 13 assassin and think Age of Conan will be like Tortage all the way.
Once they reach higher levels they will understand why majority of gamers abandoned Age of Conan and are never coming back.
Gotta love these butthurt crybaby haters who think the game is the same as it was 10 months ago... and once the new players get to high levels and understand that the content that was missing is now there...
my wife just started, and DAMN! she has so many quests after tortage the whole freaking map is covered....... So for you guys that thought content sucked after tortage think again. They have not only added new quests but entire new zones and instances to run!
Also, if you thought the voice acting was cool. It's been getting implimented slowly over more quests.
Even tho AoC had a bad Payed Beta launch they work harder then any company i've seen to fix it. Ok Ok, so not with GG working as GD but the new guy i want to sexh up because he is just blazing fast at getting shit better/right!
One last thing. The new GD actually listens to what is best for the game, not like what they did with SWG but totaly 180 from it.
Some may say, ohh graphics is the only thing good about it.
i say. Content can be added, graphics engines get redone how often?
The quest gap wasnt right after Tortage it was much later. It is rumored to have been fixed which doesnt change that it was there as admitted by both FC and honest fanboys.
That is where that info came from and it was very factual.
For the record if someone disliked the game because they said they ran out or quests at 30-40 then they probably had missed a hub of quests or just wanted to complain. Some said it was around 75 which I found was very over optimistic. The truth in the first few months was that there was agap, they announced Ymir's was meant to fix some of that and announced it would be released in August. If memory serves me it wasnt. THAT is why some were really turned off my the quest gap.
Yes..there is plenty to do after tortage. AoC is a beautiful game and many people love to play it. Doomspeakers can go cry in the corner..if they can break away from their mother's teet long enough. Those of us that actually appreciate the world spawned from the mind of Robert E. Howard...and do not suffer from A.D.D and lack of imagination will continue to enjoy the game.
Boy there certainly is a person or group of people that are really trying to push the whole "AOC is da bestest!!11!!" agenda.
Here's 3 reasons why I thought it was(and is) terrible.
1) Combat was awkward, tedious, and boring.
2) Instances killed the feeling of an online world.
3) Content is incredibly boring.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Heh that's the one thing I totally disagree on, the content is magnificent.
I love the writing.
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Heh that's the one thing I totally disagree on, the content is magnificent.
I love the writing.
Fair enough, it's all objective of course. I just found that, while they had voice overs and some decent background stories, the acual quests ended up still being the same old same old. Just my opinion though.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I, for one, do not think it is the "bestest game"....I think its a good game. My main issue is when someone ..I mean anyone..comes on to say even the slightest complement..it could even be cloaked in a negative statement..like " Tried it...not the best game...liked the combat animations..probably won't play it again"...there are immediately a barrage of...Sux...Failcom...no players...no quests..no endgame comments ...mostly from people who tried the game at or right after launch. Your reply was fine...It doesn't bother me if people reply...state points as to why the didnt like the game . That's reasonable. Unlike you....most just come to disparage funcom,Aoc and the players...instead of going to the forum of the game they actually like to play. If there is one.
As for your points....I agreed at first with #1...but it grew on me and now seems smoother and some strategy can be used...it's not a chess game but takes slightly more effort than other games I've played. #2...kind of agree...understand the use of them to maintain graphic quality...wish there were not so many tho. #3..so far..no problem with content...but i am only 30th level..that my change..from the chatter while playing tho..it won't change for a while.
I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
1. You guys are either high or haven't actually played the game at later levels. The combat is intense and while a lot of people complain about combos, the number of steps was reduced a few months ago, and combos mean that you have to decide carefully which ability to use because of directional shielding and timing etc. It means you can't just sit there and spam a button and go afk while you're in the middle of battle. Unless you like the auto-attack style of combat I don't know what you are talking about. If you are going to make statements like this please back them up with something substantiative.
2. I agree on instances, it's the one thing in the game that really still bothers me to this day. But it was a design trade-off.
3. You haven't played the game recently, I have played since release and spend most of my time as a level 80 PvP'ing all over the place. My guess is you've never taken part in a siege nor been part of an active guild that was competing for a BK. Those two things make up for a huge amount of the PvP end-game content.
But I shouldn't really try because the people that are flaming either
- Haven't played the game since launch. And I admit the game had many problems at launch but it is not the same game. I can tell because many of their concerns have already been addressed or are not valid anymore.
- Have not and probably cannot think long enough to actually put down valid reasons. I haven't seen one post in 7 pages that can point to another MMO to counter my arguments. I didn't say AoC was a perfect game, but please let me know what other options you got.
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I mostly agree with those three.
1) Yes, it is boring and tedious. "Look at me, I'm doing combos!!!" Oh wait.. I'm just smashing buttons like an idiot.."
2) This is my number one complaint. MMO's are supposed to be about this massive online world with thousands of people. Age of Conan feels like a single-player pve game most of the time.
3) Yes, the content is boring but so is on other MMO's. My biggests issue with content is the lack of it. After I grinded my way up to level 80 I saw there was nothing more to do! The game was basically over. Sure pve players have raids and stuff but what is there to do for a pvp player? Gank lowbies? No thanks.
1) From your comment and the way you smash buttons, you fail to understand the combo combat system, sorry. In fact it is opposite to auto attack, which is boring.
2) Are those the same instances that are in EQ2? To be honest i have never had a problem with the instancing of the main areas of the map.
3)Bit out of touch on this point me thinks, although i have not reached max level.
I so want to play AoC but here is my problem: Im not sure my computer can run it in all it's splendor. I have an AMD 3800+ single core processor with a new motherboard and a 9500GT card from Nvidia. I have rebuilt it somewhat, I can run Warhammer pretty well and actually run Fallout 3 and Crysis on medium to high settings and Crysis is a beast. What do you guys think, can I run AoC decent?
I honestly believe you can run AoC in medium to high settings on that rig. Having between 2 and 4 gigs of memory can't hurt either.
After I read the whole original post, I see you failed to mention the entire world is instanced. I tried AoC, and never picked it back up again after finding out the above fact. It didn't feel like a living world with all the instancing. The instant portals to travel to other instances was real immersive as well ... bleh.
I could never play this game again.
1. You guys are either high or haven't actually played the game at later levels. The combat is intense and while a lot of people complain about combos, the number of steps was reduced a few months ago, and combos mean that you have to decide carefully which ability to use because of directional shielding and timing etc. It means you can't just sit there and spam a button and go afk while you're in the middle of battle. Unless you like the auto-attack style of combat I don't know what you are talking about. If you are going to make statements like this please back them up with something substantiative.
2. I agree on instances, it's the one thing in the game that really still bothers me to this day. But it was a design trade-off.
3. You haven't played the game recently, I have played since release and spend most of my time as a level 80 PvP'ing all over the place. My guess is you've never taken part in a siege nor been part of an active guild that was competing for a BK. Those two things make up for a huge amount of the PvP end-game content.
But I shouldn't really try because the people that are flaming either
- Haven't played the game since launch. And I admit the game had many problems at launch but it is not the same game. I can tell because many of their concerns have already been addressed or are not valid anymore.
- Have not and probably cannot think long enough to actually put down valid reasons. I haven't seen one post in 7 pages that can point to another MMO to counter my arguments. I didn't say AoC was a perfect game, but please let me know what other options you got.
I just hate it when someone tells me that I haven't played endgame or I don't have an active account, bla.. bla..
Listen buddy, I've probably played this game a whole lot more than you. I started in beta and have played hundreds of hours since launch. I quit before Christmas last year along with almost everyone on my server. I decited to come back to check if AoC had improved enough for me to be interested in playing again. It's not.
I still have an active account, about 3 weeks left.
Did you know that it's possible for someone to have an active account and be negative about AoC? Or do you think everyone who is playing is loving it?
1. Ok, you like the combat system. Good for your. But guess what? Not everyone likes it. And it's not about them not understanding it or anything, it's about them not liking it! Combo system was good back in the day in beta but they changed it. Gaute changed it. Remember that delay we got?
3. I am well aware of the endgame in AoC. I have 3 level 80 characters. Again.. you like sieges. Good for you. I don't like it. And I know TONS of other people who also don't like sieges.
What I'm trying to say to you is that it's all about personal preference. Remember that mass exodus? When something like 95% of players quit? Maybe you belong to that 5%? Maybe YOU are in the minority of players who like AoC. Maybe YOU are "weird" because you like it?
95%? Not hardly, gotta love made up statistics...
Not everyone likes sieges, not everyone likes instances, not everyone likes WoW not everyone likes chocolate and money...
That is not a valid argument in this context.
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
studies show he's right though.
on a more serious note. majority of the people left because something was wrong. if they've started the game with its current state things may have been different. but thats a train long past, just wave good bye and deal with what you have.
I need more vespene gas.
Lol I love Dilbert. It's funny because it's true
I don't know the exact numbers but I believe at one point AoC had 800k subs? And didn't that Norwegian investment guy say that AoC has about 75k subs? I would imagine he has some credible sources. Anonymous forum freaks might invent their own numbers but I doubt an invester banker would.
Whatever the real number is, it's probably pretty close to 90% and that's a lot.
Yes you can.
About numbers, people left the game for 2 reasons as far as I can tell: 1. the game wasn't stable enough for them to play it. 2. People were told they were getting a cadillac and were delivered a chevy. O rmaybe it's like a half done cadillac, but either way as a customer they didn't get what they expected.
The PR didn't help. I now hate hype, I'd rather just get regular low profile updates on how the game development is proceding,
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