Yes, if you are 'allergic' to queues then you might as well wait a while until the devs correct that stuff. Or until they set up a new damn server! Unlike the OP, however, I have'nt experienced ANY client issues, and the only people I've heard experiencing them have either integrated vid cards or an 8800... have been a lot of problems for people w/ 8800s. Hope they sort them out for you all.
I honestly believe if the DF Community had more people like you APEist. Then there would be a little less hostility.
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let me explain: you hot key weapons on to your bar, so I say I bind my bow to "2" and sword to "1". when you press 1 it will equip sword, only way to tell is by console text: "you have equiped you etc." press 1 again and it will unequip it.... okay. also with sword it is easy to tell if you have it in your hands because you go to 3rd person. whereas with bow and staff you are always in 1st person and only see your hands hold staff/bow after standing still for a couple of seconds. sound annoying yet?
so when I get jumped and I'm panicing trying to do something on the move like cast a spell i'm all over the shop... press 2 to equip staff, press R to hold it, press 5 to equip mana missile press LMB cast.... NOTHING. staff was equiped already so I unequiped it and did nothing (no way of telling except reading console). they basically need to go play some first person shooters and take some notes.
can you imagine in say crysis online I press the hotkey for my shotgun twice and it throws it on the floor? or having no icon to see what you have equiped. and not knowing what weapon you having out when you are moving? first person action combat and having to read walls of texts to figure out whether you are in combat or not sucks.
ANYWAY moving on... in some group pve videos everyone is doing the same attack animation, this is because the overhead swing which is best for not hitting allies only has one animation. the horizontal slash actuallly has 4 different animations, considering the overhead was added later they probably did a quick job on animations. I dislike MUCH how different swings are done by going into different modes, why not button A does slash 1 button B does slash 2. why should I have to stance dance just to swing in different directions I want to do different swings on the fly.
uggh.. Ok,
1. You are basicly complaining that a new game requires some getting used to.
2. You make it sound really difficut, but really it aint. Honestly.
3. You can simply change slash - chop by pressing T wow it aint too hard is it?
4. there is an ICON for your EQUIPED weapon. It goes GREEN when you have it unsheathed.
5. Why are todays generation almost incapable of "problem solving" and by that I mean - Hmm how does this work, Ohh I see if I do this and this, that happens. Why must all new games conform to a "standard interface"?
6. Sum up. You are advising people not to buy something because you dislike the interface, 90% of you post was about the interface.
if thats the way it came across to you I'm sorry. but that is not what I intended at all. the OP begins with reasons not to buy the game yet (ie alot of people cannot get it to work, plethora of errors). I then go on and write some impressions (and admitedly complaints) on the game.
the problems with the interface are not gamebreaking just poor design. they should not stop anyone buying the game.
even if this green icon is legit (I will test when I am able to log in sometime this year), thats only part of the problem desribed fixed, the system is still sucks.
if you didn't get the point with the T thing how about an analogy.
you have two fists. but to punch with left you have to go into left punch mode and vice versa. wouldn't it be better to be able to punch with either when you want than have to change modes?
when playing darkfall with allies nearby I will swing into the air before engaging to check which mode I am in, so I don't go rogue. pretty sures theres not an icon for these modes.
PS. this is my fanboi shining through, but I wish you woulda added the word 'yet' to the end of you thread title lol...
Nah, it's a sound suggestion.
If nothing else, it would have made it a little easier for some of the more sensitive ones here to digest... at least until they got to where he offered critiques of their "perfect game".
But hey.. it got people to read, and the reactions would have probably been mostly the same anyway.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
At times like these, especially with such a controlled, one step at a time, indy launch, it is impossible to come up final judgements on a game. I will wait for a few months for Darkfall to be fully released and when AV had the time to adress all initial, launch and billing associated problems to see how things are.
'Verdicts' like these, by people who can't see the forest through the trees (who let their judgement be clouded by those launch associated issues) don't impress me much. You can only hand out verdicts on mmorpgs when they are fully up and running ... not when they just left the dressing room, scratch their heads and wonder where they left their bottles of cool-aid or where the hell the coach is hanging out.
uggh.. Ok, 1. You are basicly complaining that a new game requires some getting used to. 2. You make it sound really difficut, but really it aint. Honestly. 3. You can simply change slash - chop by pressing T wow it aint too hard is it? 4. there is an ICON for your EQUIPED weapon. It goes GREEN when you have it unsheathed. 5. Why are todays generation almost incapable of "problem solving" and by that I mean - Hmm how does this work, Ohh I see if I do this and this, that happens. Why must all new games conform to a "standard interface"? 6. Sum up. You are advising people not to buy something because you dislike the interface, 90% of you post was about the interface.
Indicative of yesteryear's generation, take whatever you can get in whatever form they give it to you. "You can have any color as long as it is black" Right?
The consumer should not have to change to meet the needs of the product, it should be the other way around. Before you call me a carebear and tell me to go play WoW, which seems to be a popular insult among the inane, I don't mean change gameplay or anything like that. You can create an interface that functions for all with limited training without changing the "hardcoreness" of your game. People should be quitting/not buying for other reasons than the interface.
And getting used to something is different than suffering through an unintuitive or clunky interface. If one person is having problems with it, many more are as well.
I see that sometimes but its doesn't work. trust me I have to read the console to do combat in this game. no doubt I will get used to the current system but it is really terrible from a FPS player's perspective.
It does, in fact work, trust me...
When your weapon is unsheathed, the weapon icon at the bottom of the action bar will show as green.
(Don't feel bad, it took me a day or two to notice, myself).
as far as I am concerned this game is not oficially released yet. not giving away away money just because. enough of crappy launches! but I thank to whoever is playing now for testing and stress test the game lol
they should copy age of chivalry and have left mouse:overhead, right mouse:slash and middle mouse/wheel:stab. that would bring mele up to par. UI can always be bound to a less important button like escape or tab. thats all I can think of do ask any questions
WRONG WRONG WRONG ! How many times i have to tell they want to copy M&B combat but they absolutely fail to deliver it?
That's the cool about M&B you dont have 3/10 or 15 buttons to do different animation attacks. You just attack with left mouse button and you can do stab/overhead/left/right attack. And you don't swing in same height over and over again how you did in Darkfall, if you look in sky you will swing very high so if you are riding a horse and you want to hit footman you have to aim down, or you can aim for bad protected parts of body/head etc: Do you understand now???
If you don't trust me how revolutionary m&b combat is i do a video for you. Please don't blade me for i do talk about m&b again because they (Tasos) want to have combat like in M&B !!!
You did never played it so you advertise honestly say so sh*t meele combat as Age of Chivalry have.
I have no interest in playing Darkfall til they offer a free trial.
Free trial is needed if you need new customers. Game is sold out and will be for next months - year considerading only 30% of my clan is in game now..And my clanmates have friends too and they spread the word..a constantly influx of new customers is pretty much guaranteed for the next time..
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And the fanbois are all slowly turning into trolls. Priceless.
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
And the fanbois are all slowly turning into trolls. Priceless.
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Repeat the words "The game is amazing" in the beginning of your post and you will not being considered a troll ...
You see the difference ? ..OP has no intention to bad talk DarkFAll ..he did mention all the good points of DF in various posts ..and he is allowed to post things he is not ok with ...
Fan community approves him posting his concerns .. but not your because you barely have helped DarkFall in the past..i can remember you as vaportroll ..you have never helpeed this game a single bit...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
And the fanbois are all slowly turning into trolls. Priceless.
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Repeat the words "The game is amazing" in the beginning of your post and you will not being considered a troll ...
You see the difference ? ..OP has no intention to bad talk DarkFAll ..he did mention all the good points of DF in various posts ..and he is allowed to post things he is not ok with ...
Fan community approves him posting his concerns .. but not your because you barely have helped DarkFall in the past..i can remember you as vaportroll ..you have never helpeed this game a single bit...
Na... I call b.s. Miagisan, Ghoul31, myself and others have been making long lists on these forums of things we like and don't like about DFO. And this game was vaporware until it released. Look up vaporware on wikipedia and you if after reading the first sentence of the definition of vaporware you feel DFO didn't fit in that definition, then I'm sorry. You probably think that DFO has had one of the best launches ever of any game in the MMO industry.
For the record, I'm not going to bother trying to help a game when it associate producer we all know and love doesn't even bother keeping his stories straight.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Na... I call b.s. Miagisan, Ghoul31, myself and others have been making long lists on these forums of things we like and don't like about DFO. And this game was vaporware until it released. Look up vaporware on wikipedia and you if after reading the first sentence of the definition of vaporware you feel DFO didn't fit in that definition, then I'm sorry. You probably think that DFO has had one of the best launches ever of any game in the MMO industry. For the record, I'm not going to bother trying to help a game when it associate producer we all know and love doesn't even bother keeping his stories straight.
No it never fit the vapor definition if you not stretch named definition to meaning something absurd..the game has been worked on , screenshots and videos and journals from development process have been given to public..it was you and and those you mentioned who wanted to troll this game and still do ..If OP has concerns i am willing to listen because he gave it a real chance, but your trolls have no credit for me and are not part or worth to be mentioned as part of a DarkFall community.
.and about blame Tasos, yes the made him the frontmen and face of these company but you doint know whos ideas you troll because could be its the work of someone more silent in these Team..
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I read somewhere that you have to use keys to do attacks. Cant click a toolbar, no thanks...
I use my right hand for mouse to click things. I use my left hand for arrow keys to move. Ive done it this way for 10 years and Im not about to change because Darkfall cant make a standard MMO UI
At least give us the option to change UI so I can click my toolbar specials. I have never used F keys for specials
I read somewhere that you have to use keys to do attacks. Cant click a toolbar, no thanks... I use my right hand for mouse to click things. I use my left hand for arrow keys to move. Ive done it this way for 10 years and Im not about to change because Darkfall cant make a standard MMO UI At least give us the option to change UI so I can click my toolbar specials. I have never used F keys for specials
LOL, ok don't play DarkFall because you have to use different keys .. LOL
You can't click a toolbar for a reason..with your mouse you have to aim and select direction your facing (yes manual aim) and so the mouse is not free to wonder around the UI and the screen for you to select your attacks..your left hand will have to select a toolbar action via a button shortcut..no F-keys..just 0-9...The key 'F' is the main interaction with something you target while in combat mode (open chest in crosshair, bring up loot window while targeting the tombstone etc..usually the functionality of LMB, because the LMB in combat mode has the function to press attack..what makes sense because you have pointed with the mouse the crosshair over a target and use your left mouse button to init and release the desired attack )
While in UI mode you can arrange everything with your mouse because you are not in combat and the mouse is now free for such action ..
In combat UI is FPS 'ish, while in UI mode UI is MMO'ish..
Also you can remap WASD keys to your usual liking and use the arrow keys ..UI is fine and functional .. but you may have probs to learn something new ..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Na... I call b.s. Miagisan, Ghoul31, myself and others have been making long lists on these forums of things we like and don't like about DFO. And this game was vaporware until it released. Look up vaporware on wikipedia and you if after reading the first sentence of the definition of vaporware you feel DFO didn't fit in that definition, then I'm sorry. You probably think that DFO has had one of the best launches ever of any game in the MMO industry. For the record, I'm not going to bother trying to help a game when it associate producer we all know and love doesn't even bother keeping his stories straight.
No it never fit the vapor definition if you not stretch named definition to meaning something absurd..the game has been worked on , screenshots and videos and journals from development process have been given to public..it was you and and those you mentioned who wanted to troll this game and still do ..If OP has concerns i am willing to listen because he gave it a real chance, but your trolls have no credit for me and are not part or worth to be mentioned as part of a DarkFall community.
.and about blame Tasos, yes the made him the frontmen and face of these company but you doint know whos ideas you troll because could be its the work of someone more silent in these Team..
Nice try. I noticed you didn't even address the launch of DFO. By the way, don't sit here and give me crap about fanbois giving the game a chance. I TRIED to give the game a chance. Just like the rest of the 75% of my guild that can't get the damn game ordered. Don't sit here an patronize people for not giving the damn game a chance when 90% of the people who want to play this game can't even buy it because of the masterful way Aventurine has chose to launch the game. Me and my worthless self will go back to clicking F5 next week since no copies are available today and tomorrow.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
click and drag the loot you want to your backpack .
bro if that's too hard for you then double check your shoe laces before walking...actually I have a feeling your a velcro kind of guy
Oh that is not a wonderful design, frankly its a stupid design. Given your lovely attitude, I got an extra confirmation that the DF community is very nice and tolerant.
Want to try DF, although flamed the game a bit before, mainly for Tasos and his dodgy mates form D&L. But heard a lot about interface from hell. One thing i don't want to do is fight with the game. Interface was the reason i quit playing AoC, just couldn't be bothered to constantly put those fracking combos in...
Try the game all the shit you hear from people is Bullshit just Troll blab.
I am addicted to it its by far the best game iv played since SWG pre-cu and its better then that.
So make up your own mind screw this OP he is a Noob.
Id pay 100 bucks for this game they need to put out a 1 day free trial cuz after that 1 day youll never play anything else again.
After 2 months you ll be bored silly. Trust me it gets old fast.
And the fanbois are all slowly turning into trolls. Priceless.
Please, don't give credibility to some fans' misguided belief that "being critical = trolling", because the two are not the same. Not even close.
What I'm seeing is that, at least for one person, the tint is fading from the rose glasses of "hype" and "high expectations", and they're starting to see the game objectively - warts and all.
This is a Good Thing.
Also, Consensus makes some *very* good points and suggestions and presents them in a very coherent, reasonable and constructive way.
That is exactly the kind of feedback and support (yes, support) AV needs for this game.
And, in my opinion, if the fans truly want to see the game get better and maintain a healthy population (niche or otherwise), they should follow Consnsus' example and do the same.
Of course, I know there are a number who won't. The rose-colored glasses are there to stay. There's a few right in this thread who are slamming him for his critiques. Pretty bad when fans are so quick to turn on their own.
Again the post was titled. "Verdict: DO NOT BUY" So hows that Supporting anything.
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So you are saying the OP must entice ppl to waste money on a game even when he feels the game is not worth the money and time playing? What kind of logic that is?
<<Sounds like a bad interface design. I mean 3-4 actions just to loot a corpse...>>
Not a bad interface design inthis case but a deliberate one. It is design to prevent you killing someone, double clicking for all the loot and then running off.
As far as the game launch has gone: perfect - no but not a disaster either.
Not being able to buy the game is primarily down to a lack of servers whichc omes down to money. After the game has been out a month AV will be able to see how many folks have called it a day (this is a niche game afterall!). FUNCOM took a $3.8M hit related to server costs - it dragged them from profit into loss. They let more people in this week leading to queue issues. Now they are back to not selling the game again till Monday. No win situation really until they get past the initial stages.
Suggesting that someone waits is always good advice - more so with DF: small company, niche game that is different to many others etc.. Doing so doesn't make the OP a troll either!
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I honestly believe if the DF Community had more people like you APEist. Then there would be a little less hostility.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
uggh.. Ok,
1. You are basicly complaining that a new game requires some getting used to.
2. You make it sound really difficut, but really it aint. Honestly.
3. You can simply change slash - chop by pressing T wow it aint too hard is it?
4. there is an ICON for your EQUIPED weapon. It goes GREEN when you have it unsheathed.
5. Why are todays generation almost incapable of "problem solving" and by that I mean - Hmm how does this work, Ohh I see if I do this and this, that happens. Why must all new games conform to a "standard interface"?
6. Sum up. You are advising people not to buy something because you dislike the interface, 90% of you post was about the interface.
if thats the way it came across to you I'm sorry. but that is not what I intended at all. the OP begins with reasons not to buy the game yet (ie alot of people cannot get it to work, plethora of errors). I then go on and write some impressions (and admitedly complaints) on the game.
the problems with the interface are not gamebreaking just poor design. they should not stop anyone buying the game.
even if this green icon is legit (I will test when I am able to log in sometime this year), thats only part of the problem desribed fixed, the system is still sucks.
if you didn't get the point with the T thing how about an analogy.
you have two fists. but to punch with left you have to go into left punch mode and vice versa. wouldn't it be better to be able to punch with either when you want than have to change modes?
when playing darkfall with allies nearby I will swing into the air before engaging to check which mode I am in, so I don't go rogue. pretty sures theres not an icon for these modes.
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Nah, it's a sound suggestion.
If nothing else, it would have made it a little easier for some of the more sensitive ones here to digest... at least until they got to where he offered critiques of their "perfect game".
But hey.. it got people to read, and the reactions would have probably been mostly the same anyway.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
At times like these, especially with such a controlled, one step at a time, indy launch, it is impossible to come up final judgements on a game. I will wait for a few months for Darkfall to be fully released and when AV had the time to adress all initial, launch and billing associated problems to see how things are.
'Verdicts' like these, by people who can't see the forest through the trees (who let their judgement be clouded by those launch associated issues) don't impress me much. You can only hand out verdicts on mmorpgs when they are fully up and running ... not when they just left the dressing room, scratch their heads and wonder where they left their bottles of cool-aid or where the hell the coach is hanging out.
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Indicative of yesteryear's generation, take whatever you can get in whatever form they give it to you. "You can have any color as long as it is black" Right?
The consumer should not have to change to meet the needs of the product, it should be the other way around. Before you call me a carebear and tell me to go play WoW, which seems to be a popular insult among the inane, I don't mean change gameplay or anything like that. You can create an interface that functions for all with limited training without changing the "hardcoreness" of your game. People should be quitting/not buying for other reasons than the interface.
And getting used to something is different than suffering through an unintuitive or clunky interface. If one person is having problems with it, many more are as well.
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well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
It does, in fact work, trust me...
When your weapon is unsheathed, the weapon icon at the bottom of the action bar will show as green.
(Don't feel bad, it took me a day or two to notice, myself).
as far as I am concerned this game is not oficially released yet. not giving away away money just because. enough of crappy launches! but I thank to whoever is playing now for testing and stress test the game lol
WRONG WRONG WRONG ! How many times i have to tell they want to copy M&B combat but they absolutely fail to deliver it?
That's the cool about M&B you dont have 3/10 or 15 buttons to do different animation attacks. You just attack with left mouse button and you can do stab/overhead/left/right attack. And you don't swing in same height over and over again how you did in Darkfall, if you look in sky you will swing very high so if you are riding a horse and you want to hit footman you have to aim down, or you can aim for bad protected parts of body/head etc: Do you understand now???
If you don't trust me how revolutionary m&b combat is i do a video for you. Please don't blade me for i do talk about m&b again because they (Tasos) want to have combat like in M&B !!!
You did never played it so you advertise honestly say so sh*t meele combat as Age of Chivalry have.
Where do I buy?
I have no interest in playing Darkfall til they offer a free trial.
Free trial is needed if you need new customers. Game is sold out and will be for next months - year considerading only 30% of my clan is in game now..And my clanmates have friends too and they spread the word..a constantly influx of new customers is pretty much guaranteed for the next time..
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Repeat the words "The game is amazing" in the beginning of your post and you will not being considered a troll ...
You see the difference ? ..OP has no intention to bad talk DarkFAll ..he did mention all the good points of DF in various posts ..and he is allowed to post things he is not ok with ...
Fan community approves him posting his concerns .. but not your because you barely have helped DarkFall in the past..i can remember you as vaportroll ..you have never helpeed this game a single bit...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
How is he a troll, he said the games amazing while pointing out flaws
WOW what kind of reading comprehension do you have?
Wait a second. You are being hypocritical now. The OP isn't considered a troll because he said the game is amazing while pointing out flaws. At the same time, someone that the fanbois consider a troll can say the exact same thing and every fanbois in these forums will be out burning the troll at the stake. That just isn't right and super hypocritical.
Repeat the words "The game is amazing" in the beginning of your post and you will not being considered a troll ...
You see the difference ? ..OP has no intention to bad talk DarkFAll ..he did mention all the good points of DF in various posts ..and he is allowed to post things he is not ok with ...
Fan community approves him posting his concerns .. but not your because you barely have helped DarkFall in the past..i can remember you as vaportroll ..you have never helpeed this game a single bit...
Na... I call b.s. Miagisan, Ghoul31, myself and others have been making long lists on these forums of things we like and don't like about DFO. And this game was vaporware until it released. Look up vaporware on wikipedia and you if after reading the first sentence of the definition of vaporware you feel DFO didn't fit in that definition, then I'm sorry. You probably think that DFO has had one of the best launches ever of any game in the MMO industry.
For the record, I'm not going to bother trying to help a game when it associate producer we all know and love doesn't even bother keeping his stories straight.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
No it never fit the vapor definition if you not stretch named definition to meaning something absurd..the game has been worked on , screenshots and videos and journals from development process have been given to public..it was you and and those you mentioned who wanted to troll this game and still do ..If OP has concerns i am willing to listen because he gave it a real chance, but your trolls have no credit for me and are not part or worth to be mentioned as part of a DarkFall community.
.and about blame Tasos, yes the made him the frontmen and face of these company but you doint know whos ideas you troll because could be its the work of someone more silent in these Team..
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
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I read somewhere that you have to use keys to do attacks. Cant click a toolbar, no thanks...
I use my right hand for mouse to click things. I use my left hand for arrow keys to move. Ive done it this way for 10 years and Im not about to change because Darkfall cant make a standard MMO UI
At least give us the option to change UI so I can click my toolbar specials. I have never used F keys for specials
LOL, ok don't play DarkFall because you have to use different keys .. LOL
You can't click a toolbar for a reason..with your mouse you have to aim and select direction your facing (yes manual aim) and so the mouse is not free to wonder around the UI and the screen for you to select your attacks..your left hand will have to select a toolbar action via a button shortcut..no F-keys..just 0-9...The key 'F' is the main interaction with something you target while in combat mode (open chest in crosshair, bring up loot window while targeting the tombstone etc..usually the functionality of LMB, because the LMB in combat mode has the function to press attack..what makes sense because you have pointed with the mouse the crosshair over a target and use your left mouse button to init and release the desired attack )
While in UI mode you can arrange everything with your mouse because you are not in combat and the mouse is now free for such action ..
In combat UI is FPS 'ish, while in UI mode UI is MMO'ish..
Also you can remap WASD keys to your usual liking and use the arrow keys ..UI is fine and functional .. but you may have probs to learn something new ..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
No it never fit the vapor definition if you not stretch named definition to meaning something absurd..the game has been worked on , screenshots and videos and journals from development process have been given to public..it was you and and those you mentioned who wanted to troll this game and still do ..If OP has concerns i am willing to listen because he gave it a real chance, but your trolls have no credit for me and are not part or worth to be mentioned as part of a DarkFall community.
.and about blame Tasos, yes the made him the frontmen and face of these company but you doint know whos ideas you troll because could be its the work of someone more silent in these Team..
Nice try. I noticed you didn't even address the launch of DFO. By the way, don't sit here and give me crap about fanbois giving the game a chance. I TRIED to give the game a chance. Just like the rest of the 75% of my guild that can't get the damn game ordered. Don't sit here an patronize people for not giving the damn game a chance when 90% of the people who want to play this game can't even buy it because of the masterful way Aventurine has chose to launch the game. Me and my worthless self will go back to clicking F5 next week since no copies are available today and tomorrow.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Oh that is not a wonderful design, frankly its a stupid design. Given your lovely attitude, I got an extra confirmation that the DF community is very nice and tolerant.
The OP is right, avoid this game.
Try the game all the shit you hear from people is Bullshit just Troll blab.
I am addicted to it its by far the best game iv played since SWG pre-cu and its better then that.
So make up your own mind screw this OP he is a Noob.
Id pay 100 bucks for this game they need to put out a 1 day free trial cuz after that 1 day youll never play anything else again.
After 2 months you ll be bored silly. Trust me it gets old fast.
Please, don't give credibility to some fans' misguided belief that "being critical = trolling", because the two are not the same. Not even close.
What I'm seeing is that, at least for one person, the tint is fading from the rose glasses of "hype" and "high expectations", and they're starting to see the game objectively - warts and all.
This is a Good Thing.
Also, Consensus makes some *very* good points and suggestions and presents them in a very coherent, reasonable and constructive way.
That is exactly the kind of feedback and support (yes, support) AV needs for this game.
And, in my opinion, if the fans truly want to see the game get better and maintain a healthy population (niche or otherwise), they should follow Consnsus' example and do the same.
Of course, I know there are a number who won't. The rose-colored glasses are there to stay. There's a few right in this thread who are slamming him for his critiques. Pretty bad when fans are so quick to turn on their own.
Again the post was titled. "Verdict: DO NOT BUY" So hows that Supporting anything.
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So you are saying the OP must entice ppl to waste money on a game even when he feels the game is not worth the money and time playing? What kind of logic that is?
<<Sounds like a bad interface design. I mean 3-4 actions just to loot a corpse...>>
Not a bad interface design inthis case but a deliberate one. It is design to prevent you killing someone, double clicking for all the loot and then running off.
As far as the game launch has gone: perfect - no but not a disaster either.
Not being able to buy the game is primarily down to a lack of servers whichc omes down to money. After the game has been out a month AV will be able to see how many folks have called it a day (this is a niche game afterall!). FUNCOM took a $3.8M hit related to server costs - it dragged them from profit into loss. They let more people in this week leading to queue issues. Now they are back to not selling the game again till Monday. No win situation really until they get past the initial stages.
Suggesting that someone waits is always good advice - more so with DF: small company, niche game that is different to many others etc.. Doing so doesn't make the OP a troll either!
(P.S. Ttravel is quicker when you have a mount).