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NEW SERVER POLL

GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519

New server Poll is up! But you have to log into the game and have a active account in order to vote. I will put a MMORPG version of the poll here. Its what they are asking in the poll.

 

*Results from this poll on mmorpg are not offical.

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  • DeathstinyDeathstiny Member Posts: 386

    complete failure!

    no time lock progression = no subscription

  • neschrianeschria Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

     I will probably resubscribe to vote, since the last time I subscribed, it was in anticipation of the new server.  I voted here for the 51/50 option. A normal blue server would be my second choice, but since AAs are such an integral part of any given class, everything before you can start collecting them is pretty much pure time sink. 51 is pretty low level anyway, these days.

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    This is where I draw the line: __________________.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    Combine had a timelock -- 4 weeks per expansion

     

    Guilds had "Kunark unlock" criteria met in only 2 weeks

    but the Progression servers did not allow Kunark access until 4 weeks passed

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    I think they dropped on the ball on this

     

    should have been more choices like

    - combine server with 3 month unlock

    - server restricted to only 3 expansions Kunark, Velious, Luclin

     

    I add Luclin in there because both Beastlords and AA are popular

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Deathstiny


    complete failure!
    no time lock progression = no subscription



     

    Intresting, Most people say the failure is do to the poll not having a Classic Server Option. Which they will never understand that the code would be impossible to remake with EQ being tainted with all the newer expansions and Versions of old being deleted.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Nadia


    I think they dropped on the ball on this
     
    should have been more choices like
    - combine server with 3 month unlock
    - server restricted to only 3 expansions Kunark, Velious, Luclin
     
    I add Luclin in there because both Beastlords and AA are popular



     

    What about the Zerkers?

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    What about the Zerkers?

    good point

     

    would be nice if they there was an option to retain all the classes

    but keep the PVE content restricted to some sort of classic setting -- and allow players to earn AA

     

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    link to the Eqplayers announcement

    eqplayers.station.sony.com/news_article.vm

    In celebration of the 10th Anniversary, EverQuest® will be launching a new server for you to enjoy! We want YOU, our players, to help us decide on what rule set this new server will follow.

    Server Rule Set Descriptions

    1. Progression Server

    * These servers do not have all expansions active on them initially. Instead, each expansion is unlocked through the actions of the players.

    2. PvP Server

    * On this server, everyone has the ability to attack each other subject to a 4 level limit. For instance, a level 45 person may attack or be attacked by anyone from level 41 through 49. For more information, click here.

    3. Standard Server

    * Player vs Environment, a player character plays against the game world and non-player characters, as opposed to against other players.

    4. Role Play Server

    * Player vs Environment, a player character plays against the game world and non-player characters, as opposed to against other players. The main differences between this type of server and a standard server are that players are only allowed 2 character slots and some items that are NOT tradable on standard servers are tradable on this server.

    5. 51/50 Server

    * Players on this server will start at level 51 with 50 alternate advancement points. The rules of this server are the same as a Standard Server.

    6. Any of the Above

    Regardless of which option is chosen, character transfers will be limited or not permitted at all to/from the server when it opens. After the server has been open for some time, we may look into changing that rule.

    Be sure to vote and help decide which new server will be opened for you to enjoy!

  • SarasiSarasi Member UncommonPosts: 16

    Looks like sony is just being sony. they seem to be only interested in making money and not what people think. You need to have an active account in order to have an opinion.I am not going to re-sub just to have an opinion or a choice. This is just a ploy to get people to re-sub in hopes of getting the server type of thier choice.They will put in whatever type they want and the votes will not even count. I started playing eq on release and stayed for the first 5 years. I have re-subed at least once a year-some more times- since then.but this last Sonyism is all it took I am done with Sony.

    p.s.

    If they put the classic server choice in there also it may have made a lot more people re-sub and then the could have ignored those votes as well and made a few more coppers from the rabble.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Sarasi


    Looks like sony is just being sony. they seem to be only interested in making money and not what people think. You need to have an active account in order to have an opinion.I am not going to re-sub just to have an opinion or a choice. This is just a ploy to get people to re-sub in hopes of getting the server type of thier choice.They will put in whatever type they want and the votes will not even count. I started playing eq on release and stayed for the first 5 years. I have re-subed at least once a year-some more times- since then.but this last Sonyism is all it took I am done with Sony.
    p.s.
    If they put the classic server choice in there also it may have made a lot more people re-sub and then the could have ignored those votes as well and made a few more coppers from the rabble.



     

    Well personally i like that they make you have to re-sub to have a opinion. Else you will have WoW(etc.)  Fanboiz voting just to piss people who actually play EQ and want to have a serious vote. And if the Fanboi's of a Classic Server want one so bad why don't they create the server themselves. EthernalQuest and EQemulator make servers that work. Make your classic server there because it will fail at SoE. Least if u make it, it will be free.

  • ionlyneeditionlyneedit Member Posts: 123

    Seriously? This is the list?

     

    BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    SoE.... /sigh

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  • qombiqombi Member UncommonPosts: 1,170
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Sarasi


    Looks like sony is just being sony. they seem to be only interested in making money and not what people think. You need to have an active account in order to have an opinion.I am not going to re-sub just to have an opinion or a choice. This is just a ploy to get people to re-sub in hopes of getting the server type of thier choice.They will put in whatever type they want and the votes will not even count. I started playing eq on release and stayed for the first 5 years. I have re-subed at least once a year-some more times- since then.but this last Sonyism is all it took I am done with Sony.
    p.s.
    If they put the classic server choice in there also it may have made a lot more people re-sub and then the could have ignored those votes as well and made a few more coppers from the rabble.



     

    Well personally i like that they make you have to re-sub to have a opinion. Else you will have WoW(etc.)  Fanboiz voting just to piss people who actually play EQ and want to have a serious vote. And if the Fanboi's of a Classic Server want one so bad why don't they create the server themselves. EthernalQuest and EQemulator make servers that work. Make your classic server there because it will fail at SoE. Least if u make it, it will be free.

     

    Actually it is pretty stupid to not poll past players. They are polling players that CURRENTLY enjoy what EQ is. How is this adding more subs rather than shuffling existing players around. Also some poor choices. I would have subbed for a classic like server or a progression time locked.

    But since they only want their current player base I guess that isn't an issue. It would be retarded to resub to a game you currently do not want to play to vote on some poll where the results may not even be what you want. That would be very illogical.

  • jamesd129jamesd129 Member Posts: 93

    wow, I was not expecting the 51/50 to be so close to progression

    Isn't the entire maketability of a new server that it will entice new subscriptions? It seems to me anything but the progression (or possibly pvp) servers will only cater to those whom already play the game and won't generate as much extra revenue since people will just switch which server they're playing on rather than resubscribing.

  • neschrianeschria Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

     I'll be resubbing for the new server, and I will pretty much play on any type of blue server. (Not very interested in EQ PvP-- There are other games I'd rather play for that.) 

    I rather expect Progression to win, even if it isn't my personal preference.

    I seriously don't see EQ getting many new subscribers ever, because it's old and there are a ton of other, newer options out there, but any blue server will give people even starting ground, so it might attract more people than you think-- all those people who want to play but balk at joining a server full of level 85 people. I am not sure that those are the kind of people who post here though. 

    I am kind of afraid that a new blue server might kill off some of the lowest population regular servers, as a new server always gets a fair number of people just looking for a fresh start on a different server.  I guess we'll see if there's another round of mergers in 6 months or so.

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    This is where I draw the line: __________________.

  • ABRaquelABRaquel Member UncommonPosts: 541

    So is there any idea of when are they opening the new server?

  • penlaenpenlaen Member UncommonPosts: 22

    I voted for Progression Server.

    Hopefully once majority votes for Progression, there will be another

    vote where you can voice your opinion on options - such as slower unlocking of expansions.

  • csthaocsthao Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    Originally posted by penlaen


    I voted for Progression Server.
    Hopefully once majority votes for Progression, there will be another
    vote where you can voice your opinion on options - such as slower unlocking of expansions.



     

    That will never happen, all those hardcore raiders will just create a new character on it and ruin the progression for everyone AGAIN! It's pointless for me to re-sub for this game if they aren't even going to give an option for a classic like server. SoE just doesnt know what they're going to miss out on.

    Really, whats the point of opening up a new server with those types of options, when you already have a whole list to choose from already? But oh well, it seems like I'm giving up all hope for this new server and move on to a different game...

  • csthaocsthao Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Deathstiny


    complete failure!
    no time lock progression = no subscription



     

    Intresting, Most people say the failure is do to the poll not having a Classic Server Option. Which they will never understand that the code would be impossible to remake with EQ being tainted with all the newer expansions and Versions of old being deleted.



     

    If they still have the original CD it shouldn't be hard...The Original CD contains all the files needed to start the game, cancel all the patches from Kunark until now and start re patching from scratch. Its not hard to do, although it would take an extreme amount of time re patching stuff back in once you get back into the Kunark+ era.

    I dont know why they dont keep an archive of all patches dating back to its beta until now. It really a common sense thing. For example you can make a backup of files/logs for your computer if it crashes and loses some important data. You could always go back and retrieve em. Even if its not really up to date, at least you got somewhere to start at and work from there instead of losing everything.

  • SarasiSarasi Member UncommonPosts: 16

     I too was hopeing for the classic server. I am not a programmer  but I cannot see why they could not add the game in classic form to thier list of games and just rename it "Classic Everquest". People with the original boxes can just reload it and those without can either buy it if available or download it for a fee. They can then leave thier servers alone and Classic EQ will be seperate from the original EQ .That will prevent people from wanting to change servers in mid stream and will keep the Item shop out of game.They have  Tanarus and a slew of other games I bet draw fewer subs than a classic eq would.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by qombi


     
    Actually it is pretty stupid to not poll past players. They are polling players that CURRENTLY enjoy what EQ is. How is this adding more subs rather than shuffling existing players around. Also some poor choices. I would have subbed for a classic like server or a progression time locked.
    But since they only want their current player base I guess that isn't an issue. It would be retarded to resub to a game you currently do not want to play to vote on some poll where the results may not even be what you want. That would be very illogical.



     

    Actually no its not stupid. OLD players WITH CANCELLED ACCOUNTS will only cancel there accounts again. So why should a person who is going to cancel there account again get a say so in the future of EQ?

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by csthao

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Deathstiny


    complete failure!
    no time lock progression = no subscription



     

    Intresting, Most people say the failure is do to the poll not having a Classic Server Option. Which they will never understand that the code would be impossible to remake with EQ being tainted with all the newer expansions and Versions of old being deleted.



     

    If they still have the original CD it shouldn't be hard...The Original CD contains all the files needed to start the game, cancel all the patches from Kunark until now and start re patching from scratch. Its not hard to do, although it would take an extreme amount of time re patching stuff back in once you get back into the Kunark+ era.

    I dont know why they dont keep an archive of all patches dating back to its beta until now. It really a common sense thing. For example you can make a backup of files/logs for your computer if it crashes and loses some important data. You could always go back and retrieve em. Even if its not really up to date, at least you got somewhere to start at and work from there instead of losing everything.



     

    And that code that is on those CD's is buggy as hell. Servers were always going down at the time those CD's were made. And for back-ups. SoE might be trying to save money on hard-drive space and have maybe only the last 5 years backed up.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Sarasi


     I too was hopeing for the classic server. I am not a programmer  but I cannot see why they could not add the game in classic form to thier list of games and just rename it "Classic Everquest". People with the original boxes can just reload it and those without can either buy it if available or download it for a fee. They can then leave thier servers alone and Classic EQ will be seperate from the original EQ .That will prevent people from wanting to change servers in mid stream and will keep the Item shop out of game.They have  Tanarus and a slew of other games I bet draw fewer subs than a classic eq would.



     

    In order for SoE to do a true Classic Server. They would have to higher a whole team for just that server and that isn't good business to spend so much money on a single server. Programming is a tough job and alot of gamers need to realize that. To change one thing in a game takes hours. Also a classic server would only keep the intrest of people for maybe a year at best. Only can level to 60 no AA's and only have a few Raid bosses to fight. Sleeper is a one time deal and you will be geared out after a few months with the best gear. Then you will have nothing to do in the game. Classic server is a waste. Only thing that makes sense is a Slow Unlocking Progression server. Where maybe u not only need one guild to unlock stuff but maybe 10 or 20 guilds to do the job aswell minus Sleeper raid.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

     a classic server would only keep the intrest of people for maybe a year at best. Only can level to 60 no AA's and only have a few Raid bosses to fight. Sleeper is a one time deal and you will be geared out after a few months with the best gear. Then you will have nothing to do in the game.

    when Luclin launched I didnt even bother with the new content

     

    but Luclin also brought the AA system

    and kept me happy while I grouped in Kunark Dungeons and the new temple of Cazic Thule

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

     a classic server would only keep the intrest of people for maybe a year at best. Only can level to 60 no AA's and only have a few Raid bosses to fight. Sleeper is a one time deal and you will be geared out after a few months with the best gear. Then you will have nothing to do in the game.

    when Luclin launched I didnt even bother with the new content

     

    but Luclin also brought the AA system

    and kept me happy while I grouped in Kunark Dungeons and the new temple of Cazic Thule



     

    And without the AA system, Classic server to me will become dry.

  • qombiqombi Member UncommonPosts: 1,170
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by qombi


     
    Actually it is pretty stupid to not poll past players. They are polling players that CURRENTLY enjoy what EQ is. How is this adding more subs rather than shuffling existing players around. Also some poor choices. I would have subbed for a classic like server or a progression time locked.
    But since they only want their current player base I guess that isn't an issue. It would be retarded to resub to a game you currently do not want to play to vote on some poll where the results may not even be what you want. That would be very illogical.



     

    Actually no its not stupid. OLD players WITH CANCELLED ACCOUNTS will only cancel there accounts again. So why should a person who is going to cancel there account again get a say so in the future of EQ?

     

    That is some odd logic there. Eventually everyone will cancel there accounts at some point due to being bored or unhappy with the direction of the game. I  can't speak for others but I can speak for myself when saying I canceled because I was unhappy with the direction of the game. Do you understand that not everyone likes it when a game takes a 90 degree turn from it's original form?

    I think SOE if they want those old players back then they should find out why they cancelled in the first place for one or put out some server ideas to these people to see what may bring them back don't you?

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