MMORPGs - A dangerous Addiction or Harmless pastime

01Neptune01 · November 2004

I write this to see what you guys think about MMORPG's as an dangerously addictive substance. Im sure theres lost of you out there who have ended up day-dreaming constantly about the game you play or ending up going to sleep in the late hours of the night. Yet are MMORPGs dangerous, are they too addictive or just to some people? Im sure alot of you have read things about people who played games and ended up quitting there jobs etc and losing there life due to MMORPGs. Are these people just extreme cases or are all levels of addiction bad. MMORPGs provide alot of entertainment and much more then any other type of game to the people who like and play them. Is this just a good way to have alot of fun and pass them boring hours that would have been spent sat the at TV.

So what do you guys think about this, is MMORPG addiction bad in all levels, or is it just like Alcohol ok if you use it responably.

Gideon · November 2004

Most people will agree that MMORPG's can be addictive but I think that you can also control your addictivness very easily in my opinion.

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FrostFreiDen · November 2004

I dont know. I voted Dangerously Addictive! This is my time of thing. While some are off customizing their vehicle, spending tons of money on looks, and while others are out playing sports, doing whatever, I have the greatest fun sitting down at the PC and Playing MMO's or games in general.

I work Weekends only, all day long, but weekends only! During the week I attend college classes, with just 15 hours this semester. Ever since WoW beta has begun, I have been extremely addictive. Its just like eating, or controlling your weight. I will get out of one of my classes, and look at my friend and hear him say, " So you going to do this homework now? " My answer as always.. " Hello no dude, Im going to drive home, look in my passenger seat, see my books and than walk inside, sit down on the computer and play WoW, or some game! "

I actually, quite honestly dont think I can tell you with a solemn look and say that I could stop playing! I am really quite addicted to these games, but its what I like. I guess thats what an addiction is though huh? At least Im not doing drugs or spending that time doing something illegal or "getting into trouble" Than again, I could probably be spending that time, organizing my life, doing school work, or staying in touch with friends.

Nonetheless, Gaming may well be addictive, but its not really dangerous. I still go to work, and I still pay my bills, so until the day arrives when I start skipping work, or start skipping meals ( Yeah right ) I will consider it dangerous. I still have my bills to pay and responsibilities and im perfectly aware of that.

So until some "extreme" point is reached, deffinitly a Harmless Pastime for the literal reasoning, but for the all joking around, deffinitly a Dangerous Addiction!

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rathma · November 2004

MMORPG's would be addicted if they made any good ones , to be honest sometimes I try my best to play an MMO longer than 2 hours but i give up and do something else.

The only MMO I played for around 4 hours a day was FFXI, and I had quit it after 3 months because it was too time consuming for my scheduel and got in the way of other stuff.

Anyways, back to the topic... It's not addictive if you can control it. It's the exact same thing as candy or television... People get addicted to that too. It depends on the person.

So to answer your question, it could be both. It's up to the gamer to control how they use the game.

Grunty · November 2004

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maboroshi · November 2004

I think they're addictive to people that are prone to addiction.

And the basic mechanics of a MMORPG are geared toward an Obsessive-Compulsive personality: the Virtual Skinner Box grind of leveling rewards long-term repetitive behaviour. Hours and hours and hours of mole-whacking rewards you with the little cookie of in-game status.

Pulling the lever on a slot machine for hours, or camping a mob for hours for a rare drop... very similar mentality.

Malianea · November 2004

These games can certainly suck you in. My husband nearly left me at my EQ heyday, but I maintain much more control now

//\//\oo · November 2004

It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?

An analog would be that of the woman that cheats on her husband with another man who is well-endowed: Like any other craving, the desire to play an mmorpg could be induced by a lack of gratification, physical exertion or socialization due to physical deformity/circumstances.

This is particularly why you never see two spouses lose their social life due to an MMORPG: It is almost always one person that had very weak social ties (excluding their ties online) and lacked a nurturing relationship.

Just my opinion, but I think that mmorpg addiction is a blatant display of an unfulfilled id.

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Tymora · November 2004

I few years ago before I had a lot less responsibility, I could play mmorpgs all day and night. I must have spend 25-30 hours a week playing UO. Then when Everquest came out I had a job, and I was not able to spend that much time playing, but I was addicted to it. I was able to control it, and I never felt like I was neglecting anything important in my life.

Now I am older and have more responsibility, not only to myself but to my family and my job. It is difficult to find the time I wish I had to play. So I stay up very late at night, I play when I can. The times I cannot play I think about it. I am addicted once more to Everquest II, just like I was for the original. For years after I stopped playing the original I was probably more of a casual gamer and just jumped around from one mmorpg to another.

I felt myself really getting into trouble after the release of EQ2, for days I sat at the computer unable to tear myself away. I stopped and looked at what I was doing and got it together. I still think about playing during the day at work, but I do what I have to do, I go home and take care of what needs to be done, and then late at night I log in and play until I just can't stay awake anymore.

It's just a game, it is not that important, but I love it. I would say that mmorpgs are a dangerous addiction and could get out of control. I voted that they are addictive but can be controlled, because for the 2nd time now I caught myself drifting into an alternate virtual reality and brought myself back.

Some people have had it bad when they didn't see the consequences of their addiction. I'm just gald I know where my priorities are and I can still enjoy playing mmorpgs.

animeba · November 2004

MMORPGs are harmless if you exercise restraint. Remeber to eat, drink and sleep! Don't be like that korean guy who died of exhuastion because he played for 3 days straight.

tricon · November 2004

MMORPGS are very addictive, but I believe that we gammers need to have self control over the games. Work hard and play hard is what I believe in.

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KidMoe · November 2004

First of all let me say that I wish I never got into MMORPGs.

MMORPGs can be directly compared to drugs, I have been "clean" for about a year now.

Me and a couple of friends first got into MMORPGs when we first played Mir when we were in Year 7. We had been through some very low times, just staying in all the time and feeding our addiction. We are now in Year 12 and this is what has happened to us...

A is currently addicted to Ragnarok Online, and barely controlling it.

B is secretly playing Mir3 (Secretly because it would not be good for his rep, he is a popular rude boy type)

C is very close to buying EQ2, but is now diluding himself and denying ever have been addicted to MMOs.

D , we no longer speak to, he's left our school after losing all his friends due to putting a game first.

E is actually clean. (But who knows, he may be getting those cravings)

Then there is me, clean for a year, but now look. Posting on an MMORPG forum, eagerly awaiting WoW and looking into EQ2. Telling myself that I can hold down the addiction and become just a "casual gamer". I am doubting whether or not it is possible, or whether a casual gamer actually exists in the MMO world.

1/6 of normal kids, and yes we are all normal, so our addiction is nothing to do with being socially unfulfilled or anything of that sort. It is simply that these games are too f**king good, they suck you in and take over, it takes a lot to get yourself out, or control the addiction. You ask me are they dangerous? Yes they are very very dangerous.

UsualSuspect · November 2004

I was actually just about to post something like this, but saw your post here when I got to General Discussion, so I'll add to it instead of making a new one. Mine was going to be titled "MMO's? Real Fun or Brain Washing?" or something along those lines.

Because I think MMO's are a sort of Brain Washing. They have you doing the same tasks over and over again, they hold your attention with flashing graphics and swift movements, and they make you feel good when you've accomplished something, which makes you want to do the same tasks again over and over...

So are they fun or mind control? Lets compare EverQuest to City of Heroes:

In EverQuest you hit auto attack and you watch your character strike again and again, you watch the numbers roll up the screen, until eventually the target dies. As a reward, you're given a new breastplate. And so you move on to the next target, hoping for something else to win. You hit auto attack and stare at the screen, occasionally pressing 'kick' or 'taunt', which somehow works for you as a form of interactivity. The numbers roll up the screen, and you watch zombie-like, giving a quiet "Yes!" as you get a critical hit, or some high damage number, as if its somehow your own doing. But in reality, this game has very little input from you. You hit auto attack and you watch the numbers, you put in a few special attacks, then the mob dies and you move on to the next. Why are we so engrossed? I played this game for years, sometimes from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to bed. To this day, I still don't understand why I did it, or why I keep wanting to go back to it. Brain washing?

In City of Heroes, you leap around freely in combat, you attack when YOU want to attack, choosing from all the different options, not when the auto attack option says its your turn. When you finally defeat the target, there is no magic breastplate, theres not even a corpse to loot - you've won, and now you're on to the next target. There is no reward, except the knowledge that if you keep doing this, you'll eventually level up and get a new choice of attack. This game has a lot of input from you, every movement and every attack is chosen specifically, so why doesn't this hold your attention as much as EverQuest, where you have very little input? Is it because theres too much interactivity? The staring zombie-like, the damage numbers, the rewards, none of that takes center stage in City of Heroes. Is that why the addiction factor is so much lower?

So sure, to the original poster, I think some MMO's can be horribly addictive, but I also think they've been programmed that way. City of Heroes was called the casual gamers game, and I think its because of the lack of addiction involved in it, there is no 'brain washing' going on in that game - its just fun, light entertainment, instead of a 'religion' like others.

Dekron · November 2004

Originally posted by //\//\oo

It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?
An analog would be that of the woman that cheats on her husband with another man who is well-endowed: Like any other craving, the desire to play an mmorpg could be induced by a lack of gratification, physical exertion or socialization due to physical deformity/circumstances.
This is particularly why you never see two spouses lose their social life due to an MMORPG: It is almost always one person that had very weak social ties (excluding their ties online) and lacked a nurturing relationship.
Just my opinion, but I think that mmorpg addiction is a blatant display of an unfulfilled id.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."
MP

People's addictions to mmorpgs are real, just like any narcotic, alchohol or other drug. There are actually support groups for this. Addiction is psychological or physical. In the case of mmorpgs, it is psychological. I don't want to get all into the mechanics of psychology, but think of this little example. People can be addicted to gambling, people can be addicted to food and people can even be addicted to sex (now is this one bad ).

So before you go on an "I am better than thou" rampage, here is the definition of addiction and pay special attention to number 2:

ad·dic·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-dkshn)
n.

1. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
2. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.

The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars

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Wharg0ul · November 2004

anything can be addictive. if your weak enough to let it consume you then you deserve whatever fate has in store for you.

But look at it this way.....how many people go home from work each day and sit in front of the tube, drooling like idiots? At least a mmorpg makes you think, and makes you interact with other people.

I've got friends all over the world thanx to mmorpg's, and some of the finest people I've had the pleasure to meet have been in games. Television, movies, other forms of media can't give you that.

so, addictive yeah, but mostly in a healthy way

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Naos · November 2004

Originally posted by UsualSuspect
I was actually just about to post something like this, but saw your post here when I got to General Discussion, so I'll add to it instead of making a new one. Mine was going to be titled "MMO's? Real Fun or Brain Washing?" or something along those lines.
Because I think MMO's are a sort of Brain Washing. They have you doing the same tasks over and over again, they hold your attention with flashing graphics and swift movements, and they make you feel good when you've accomplished something, which makes you want to do the same tasks again over and over...
So are they fun or mind control? Lets compare EverQuest to City of Heroes:
In EverQuest you hit auto attack and you watch your character strike again and again, you watch the numbers roll up the screen, until eventually the target dies. As a reward, you're given a new breastplate. And so you move on to the next target, hoping for something else to win. You hit auto attack and stare at the screen, occasionally pressing 'kick' or 'taunt', which somehow works for you as a form of interactivity. The numbers roll up the screen, and you watch zombie-like, giving a quiet "Yes!" as you get a critical hit, or some high damage number, as if its somehow your own doing. But in reality, this game has very little input from you. You hit auto attack and you watch the numbers, you put in a few special attacks, then the mob dies and you move on to the next. Why are we so engrossed? I played this game for years, sometimes from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to bed. To this day, I still don't understand why I did it, or why I keep wanting to go back to it. Brain washing?
In City of Heroes, you leap around freely in combat, you attack when YOU want to attack, choosing from all the different options, not when the auto attack option says its your turn. When you finally defeat the target, there is no magic breastplate, theres not even a corpse to loot - you've won, and now you're on to the next target. There is no reward, except the knowledge that if you keep doing this, you'll eventually level up and get a new choice of attack. This game has a lot of input from you, every movement and every attack is chosen specifically, so why doesn't this hold your attention as much as EverQuest, where you have very little input? Is it because theres too much interactivity? The staring zombie-like, the damage numbers, the rewards, none of that takes center stage in City of Heroes. Is that why the addiction factor is so much lower?
So sure, to the original poster, I think some MMO's can be horribly addictive, but I also think they've been programmed that way. City of Heroes was called the casual gamers game, and I think its because of the lack of addiction involved in it, there is no 'brain washing' going on in that game - its just fun, light entertainment, instead of a 'religion' like others.

So UsualSuspec every mmorpg apart from CoH is brainwashing? fanboi?

As to the original post no you cannot blame a game the fault will be in the individual not the software, addictive personalities will over do it whatever it is.

BurningMan · November 2004

I think it depends on the person. If they have self control it is addivtive but not dangeroud which is what i voted. Yet if the person lacks self control there is a problem like that lady who left her baby in her car which died for exhaustion because the lady wanted to play EQ. Also it depends on the MMORPG if it sucks then its not addictive

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//\//\oo · November 2004

Originally posted by dekron

Originally posted by //\//\oo

It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?
An analog would be that of the woman that cheats on her husband with another man who is well-endowed: Like any other craving, the desire to play an mmorpg could be induced by a lack of gratification, physical exertion or socialization due to physical deformity/circumstances.
This is particularly why you never see two spouses lose their social life due to an MMORPG: It is almost always one person that had very weak social ties (excluding their ties online) and lacked a nurturing relationship.
Just my opinion, but I think that mmorpg addiction is a blatant display of an unfulfilled id.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."
MP

People's addictions to mmorpgs are real, just like any narcotic, alchohol or other drug.

uhh I never said that they WEREN'T A SOURCE OF ADDICTION. I DID CLAIM, HOWEVER, THAT THESE ADDICTIONS HAD DEEPER RAMIFICATIONS, NAMELY AN UNFULFILLED ID (OR IN OTHER WORDS, BASIC DESIRES IN REAL-LIFE THAT WERE LEFT UNFULFILLED)

So before you go on an "I am better than thou" rampage, here is the definition of addiction and pay special attention to number 2:

Haha.. I never argued the semantics... my god, are you f**king dyslexic?

I merely claimed that the SOURCE OF THE ADDICTION was due to parameters that went BEYOND the scope of the MMORPG.

Hope the bigger letters break through your thick skull.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."
MP

UsualSuspect · November 2004

Originally posted by Naos

So UsualSuspec every mmorpg apart from CoH is brainwashing? fanboi?
As to the original post no you cannot blame a game the fault will be in the individual not the software, addictive personalities will over do it whatever it is.

Heh, when I posted that I was wondering if I should put a disclaimer in there: "EverQuest and City of Heroes have been used as examples, please ignore names and look at content.", but hell, I thought people would be smart enough to understand I was just making examples, not comparing games.

So much for intelligence!

And CoH fanboi? Puh-lease. I've quit that game twice, I only ever go back after an update to see if its worth playing. One day I think it will be, but at the moment its mind-numbingly boring.

Innferno · November 2004

Originally posted by //\//\oo

It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?
An analog would be that of the woman that cheats on her husband with another man who is well-endowed: Like any other craving, the desire to play an mmorpg could be induced by a lack of gratification, physical exertion or socialization due to physical deformity/circumstances.
This is particularly why you never see two spouses lose their social life due to an MMORPG: It is almost always one person that had very weak social ties (excluding their ties online) and lacked a nurturing relationship.
Just my opinion, but I think that mmorpg addiction is a blatant display of an unfulfilled id.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."
MP

I am afraid that in this instance your opinion is completely wrong. If someone gets addicted to drinking Coca Cola does it mean they are unhappy with their life?

You are now probably thinking that a physical addiction to caffeine is different to a mental addiction to a game, but you'd be wrong.

It is not pathetic how people ignore their spouses and neither is it something to be completely ashamed of. Addiction is chemical, not just from something you take (drugs) but often something the body produces. Why do you think people get addicted to extreme sports for example? or weight training?

Anyway, I can't be bothered to explain more i'll leave it to you to think about.

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Dekron · November 2004

Originally posted by //\//\oo
Originally posted by dekron
Originally posted by //\//\oo
It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?
An analog would be that of the woman that cheats on her husband with another man who is well-endowed: Like any other craving, the desire to play an mmorpg could be induced by a lack of gratification, physical exertion or socialization due to physical deformity/circumstances.
This is particularly why you never see two spouses lose their social life due to an MMORPG: It is almost always one person that had very weak social ties (excluding their ties online) and lacked a nurturing relationship.
Just my opinion, but I think that mmorpg addiction is a blatant display of an unfulfilled id.
"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."MP
People's addictions to mmorpgs are real, just like any narcotic, alchohol or other drug.
uhh I never said that they WEREN'T A SOURCE OF ADDICTION. I DID CLAIM, HOWEVER, THAT THESE ADDICTIONS HAD DEEPER RAMIFICATIONS, NAMELY AN UNFULFILLED ID (OR IN OTHER WORDS, BASIC DESIRES IN REAL-LIFE THAT WERE LEFT UNFULFILLED)
So before you go on an "I am better than thou" rampage, here is the definition of addiction and pay special attention to number 2:
Haha.. I never argued the semantics... my god, are you f**king dyslexic?
I merely claimed that the SOURCE OF THE ADDICTION was due to parameters that went BEYOND the scope of the MMORPG.
Hope the bigger letters break through your thick skull.
"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred."
MP

actually your whole point of your post was "It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?"

So yes, you were arguing the semantics and the raminifications of the psychology of their addictions. And answer this. How would Dyslexia contribute to someone possible posting something other than what you intended? Do you even know what dyslexia is? And I am sure dyslexics everywhere are so happy to see someone that tries to take advantage of their disability as an insult.

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Aprilly · November 2004

The bigger problem as I see is not so much addiction, which is bad enough, but what it does to us.

For example have you ever heard of anyone arguing over whether chess is a better game than checkers ?? Ok bad example but look at the posts on this forum. People get so mad when someone likes something they don't. PVP vs no PVP, EQII VS WOW, Soloing vs grouping, and anything else we do differently from somebody else in a MMO. We create names for people who have different ways of playing or like different games. Fanboi if you like a game. Carebear if you don't like PVP. You suck if you like a certain game, you are an idiot if you don't like the game I play.

Just look at the posts on this or any forum. Does this mean that mmo's attract idiots ?? I don't know. To me this is a bigger problem than addiction. If I had never played a mmo and was wondering what they were like and I looked at the posts on this forum I would avoid mmo's like the plague.

Face it as a group we all look like 10 year old spoiled brats. Maybe we are just being human but if that is the case then I can see why our history is full of wars.

I realize that I am not going to change the way people react to posts on this forum and I am sure the forum trolls and self appointed critics will flame me but we are wasting bandwidth. This forum could be a place where new ideas are discussed, games are fairly talked about, and good information could shared.

However as of this moment if you want to discuss online gaming without the irritation of small mined people look elsewhere. And if you find a place like that please let me know.

Ok children flame away.

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Valarauk · November 2004

Originally posted by Aprilly
The bigger problem as I see is not so much addiction, which is bad enough, but what it does to us.
For example have you ever heard of anyone arguing over whether chess is a better game than checkers ?? Ok bad example but look at the posts on this forum. People get so mad when someone likes something they don't. PVP vs no PVP, EQII VS WOW, Soloing vs grouping, and anything else we do differently from somebody else in a MMO. We create names for people who have different ways of playing or like different games. Fanboi if you like a game. Carebear if you don't like PVP. You suck if you like a certain game, you are an idiot if you don't like the game I play.
Just look at the posts on this or any forum. Does this mean that mmo's attract idiots ?? I don't know. To me this is a bigger problem than addiction. If I had never played a mmo and was wondering what they were like and I looked at the posts on this forum I would avoid mmo's like the plague.
Face it as a group we all look like 10 year old spoiled brats. Maybe we are just being human but if that is the case then I can see why our history is full of wars.
I realize that I am not going to change the way people react to posts on this forum and I am sure the forum trolls and self appointed critics will flame me but we are wasting bandwidth. This forum could be a place where new ideas are discussed, games are fairly talked about, and good information could shared.
However as of this moment if you want to discuss online gaming without the irritation of small mined people look elsewhere. And if you find a place like that please let me know.
Ok children flame away.

That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.

Question: " Does this mean that mmo's attract idiots ?? "
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2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.
bigot (b g t)
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

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Znith · November 2004

I selected yes addictive by harmless if controlled.

Anything done repetitvely can be addicting, but MMO's prey upon our egos. A lot of players want the be the highest level, the first to have that 'golden' armor, the first to cast this spell or the the first to complete a complicated quest. It's that feeling of being the best, first or neener neener I have something you don't have that attracts a lot of people. It's definitely the carrot on the end of the stick for most (including myself at times). Some of it is addiction to social interaction. I

It can also be the acceptance by other in these fantasy worlds that not all players get in real life.

People have been addicted to chat rooms for years. MMO's just expand on that by adding items, quests and fancy locations.

//\//\oo · November 2004

actually your whole point of your post was "It's so pathetic how people ignore their spouses and their obligations, blaming it on an addiction when it's really their own dissatisfaction; how could the addiction form if they were truly content with their lives?"

So yes, you were arguing the semantics and the raminifications of the psychology of their addictions. And answer this. How would Dyslexia contribute to someone possible posting something other than what you intended? Do you even know what dyslexia is? And I am sure dyslexics everywhere are so happy to see someone that tries to take advantage of their disability as an insult.

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No, I wasn't arguing the semantics (DEFINITIONS OR VALUES IN A LOGICAL CONTEXT): I WAS ARGUING THAT THERE ARE CASES WHERE MMORPG ADDICTION IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CAUSAL FACTOR, BUT IS BUT ONE CONSEQUENCE OF A MANIFESTATION OF AN UNFILLED ID (please look up before you twist my words around AGAIN).

Ironic how you are telling me what the point of my point was when you can't even spell ramifications.

The point of my rant was to ARGUE that there are MANY cases where MMORPG ADDICTION IS NOT THE BASE OF THE PROBLEM, but A RESULT OF ANOTHER CAUSAL PARAMETER (i.e. a person that has an unresolved conflict and must engage in some sort of compulsive/deviant behavior).

I was inspired by a case in the US, where an adult man let his son suffocate in a carm due to his compulsive game playing.

There was a similar case involving a man that had been having sex with his mistress or another that had been committing a crime ... I noticed that all of these acts fit in the Freudian mold of an uncontrollable ID.

I did not argue the DEFINITION of ADDICTION (which would have been semantic), but that it was often being MISUSED in contexts where it was an OVERSIMPLIFICATION OF THE ISSUE.

You really should have claimed that you were dyslexic (as in the neurological disorder where you have an IMPAIRED ABILITY TO COMPREHEND WRITTEN WORDS)... the reason I used that is BECAUSE DYSLEXIC INDIVIDUALS AREN'T NECESSARILY MORONS. However, since you insist on not being dyslexic....

You're absolutely right: I am sorry for those of you have have dyslexia or relatives that have it, because that does not justify my equating them to the idiotic f*** that had nothing better to do in his life than attempt to paraphrase my posts in an effort to make me look like a bigot.

Seriously though... you must have a lot of internal aggression in your life if you have to plant things in my post to feel better. As long as it keeps you from beating your dog/mom, keep it up

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Keten · November 2004

"Ironic how you are telling me what the point of my point was when you can't even spell ramifications."

Thats just stupid trying to insult ppl based on spelling, oh wow you spelled car as carm, your stoooopid
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