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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride

    Originally posted by Bigdavo


    This is absurd, stop playing Fallout 3.



     

    Lol, theirs no point in even trying to get it through their heads anymore i've realized.

    Only at mmorpg do you hear this kind of "end of the world" stuff. Probably play to many video games.

    Let them live in fear, people in touch with reality and outside these forums really don't care, and have more productive things to do.

     



     

    LOL!

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Scalebane


    Whats the percentage of food we ship out to other countries?
    Just curious =)

    In 2007, the United States imported about $10 billion more in food, feed and beverages than it exported. Imports came from 175 different countries and represented a 60 percent jump over the last decade, not sure what the 2008 numbers are.

     

    www.alternet.org/healthwellness/52789/u.s._food_system_deeply_at_risk/

  • warppwarpp Member Posts: 258
    Originally posted by declaredemer


    The destiny of the United States of America is to be, and remain, the most free and prosperous nation on earth.
     
     
    "Conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
    - Abraham Lincoln
     
     
    We need to relax, take a deep breath, and remind ourselves of our history.  Every citizen, whether born here and naturalized, is required to assume the history of the United States.  Unlike, say, France, where if you become a French citizen, you really are not French.  When you become a citizen of the United States, there is not question that you are a citizen of the United States, even if you are (or were) French!  It is something we should be proud of.
     
    Even more, we should be proud of the dedication of those honorable citizens who came before us to ensure that we were a nation of laws, of liberty, and ideals.  The least we can do is honor them by being the best citizens we can be, which is really what liberty is all about.  The opportunity to be the best person you can be.  We should participate in our own institutions, improve ourselves individually, volunteer, and participate in the political process. 
     
    The American people should participate more and have a greater say in the direction of a great nation; its greatest requires a responsible, law-loving, entrepreneurial, innovative, honest, fair, and hard-working citizenry.  And we have that. 
     
     
    “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”
    - Benjamin Franklin
     
     
    Do You Think Benjamin Franklin Could Have Imagined Banker Bail-Out Bills
    With Bonus Loopholes?
     
     
     

     

    Abraham Lincoln? i wouldn't .... on him if he asked me to..

     

    Here is an extract from a great book that sums up Mr Lincoln, your history teacher forgot to tell you about the real Lincoln..

    Beheading the "Great Messiah" you should read it sometime before you put such faith in historical quotes..

    Suppose a woman in this ..day and age—with plenty of personal faults herself, let that be stipulated—desired to leave her husband: partly because he made a regular practice, in order to go out and get drunk, of stealing money she had earned herself by raising raising chickens or taking in laundry; and partly because he'd already demonstrated a proclivity for domestic violence the first time she'd complained about his stealing.

    Now, when he stood in the doorway and beat her to a bloody pulp to keep her home, would we memorialize him as a hero? Or would we treat him like a dangerous lunatic who should be locked up, if for no other reason, then for trying to maintain the appearance of a relationship where there wasn't a relationship any more? What value, we would ask, does he find in continuing to possess her in an involuntary association, when her heart and mind had left him long ago?

    Abraham Lincoln, as most of us were told in Mr. Smith’s 9th-grade history class, was a God-sent savior, a brilliant, articulate, and diversity-loving individual, and the Messiah of the great "Union." Most of us were brainwashed on enchanting quotations from the "great man from the little log cabin."  Let Mr Lincoln be remembered for what he truly was. So let me begin a short and biased Lincoln diatribe, and may it rattle Abe’s grave and leave him forever unsettled.

    Lincoln was a ruthless dictator of the most contemptible sort. A conniving and manipulative man, and a scoundrel at heart, he was nowhere near what old guard historians would have us believe.

    Lincoln has been transformed into the indomitable icon of the American Union. But yet, this beast ruled the country by presidential decree, exercised dictatorial powers over a free people, and proceeded to wage war without a declaration from Congress. Lincoln blocked Southern shipping ports, justifying his actions by saying "he would enforce all laws and collect all revenues due the North." The blockades were an act of war. He set his Northern Army upon the South at Fort Sumter, and set in motion one of the most brutal attacks ever upon freedom by maneuvering the South into firing the first shot at their Northern aggressors.

    However, Mr. Smith’s textbook would have us believe that Lincoln was a preservationist of sorts, a man dedicated to preserving the grandeur of State ideals. Most 9th-graders don’t have the intellect to ask what is so glorious about State ideals. Instead, they absorb just enough to make it into ignorant adulthood. In fact, if they had questioned these teachings, they would have discovered that Lincoln was a consummate con man, manipulator, and a State-serving miscreant.

    In the march through Georgia during Lincoln’s War of Northern Aggression, he and Sherman carved out a murderous campaign, maiming innocent civilians and setting a precedent for the next century’s bloody genocides that followed. A fine exemplar was he, the Communists might say.

    As if the pure evil of the war to subjugate the Southern states struggling for independence was not unscrupulous enough, Lincoln was hardly the watchman of the black race as portrayed by Mr. Smith’s ninth-grade history text, either. Lincoln had no fondness for the black man, and in fact, often spoke with the candor of that which would make him a modern-day racist of satanic proportions.

    As Lincoln scholar Tom DiLorenzo points out, Lincoln believed there was an inherent inequality between the black and white race, and held a conviction that a "superior position" should be assigned to the white man over the black man due to this political and social inequality. David Duke was forever browbeaten for muttering anything even resembling this.

    Any good historian at least understands that his goal was not to free the slaves, as DiLorenzo correctly states. In 1862, Lincoln published a letter stating, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union."

    Lincoln was the darling candidate of the moneyed industrialists of the North. At the core of his political tenets was a government of high import taxes, and his Republican party, whom he lead, passed the Morrill tariff into law soon after taking office. To quote DiLorenzo, Lincoln "even promised in his First Inaugural Address to launch an invasion of any state that failed to collect its share of tariffs." He was committing himself to collecting customs in the South, even if that meant they would secede. The free-market economics of the South were up for assault.

    Lincoln signed ten more tariff-raising bills throughout his agonizing administration. He manipulated the American public into the first income tax, he handed out huge land grants and monetary subsidies to transcontinental railroads (corporate welfare), and he took the nation off the gold standard, allowing the government to have absolute control over the monetary system. Then, he virtually nationalized the banking system under the National Currency Acts in order to establish a machine for printing new money at will and to provide cheap credit for the business elite. This mercantilist tyrant ushered in central banking, our greatest economic curse to this day.

    Furthermore, his "New Army" and the slaughter effort on the South put into motion an unprecedented profusion of federal coercion against free citizens, both North and South. By way of conscription, he assembled a vast army by presidential decree, an act of flagrant misconduct which drafted individuals into slavery to the federal government. Additionally, any war dissenters or advocates of a peaceful settlement with the South were jailed, and, as even Mr. Smith knows, Habeus Corpus was abolished for the duration of the war. He then tossed into the slammer as many as 30,000 civilians WITHOUT due process of law for reasons of criticizing the Lincoln administration, and suppressed HUNDREDS of newspapers that did not support his war effort.

    After his Army stopped secession in its tracks, Lincoln created provisional courts sympathetic to Northern aggression, invented the office of Military Governor, and issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which became a propaganda tool for historians in later years, though it did not free the slaves in Northern-controlled areas.

    All said, Lincoln was a ruthless dictator and he set the precedent for what is known as the "Imperial Presidency." He was the most evil, damaging, aggressive, abominable, and destructive president ever to defy American liberty.

    Jah Rasta For I.
    The Wicked Shall Fall..





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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by warpp

    Originally posted by declaredemer


    The destiny of the United States of America is to be, and remain, the most free and prosperous nation on earth.
     
     
    "Conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
    - Abraham Lincoln
     
     
    We need to relax, take a deep breath, and remind ourselves of our history.  Every citizen, whether born here and naturalized, is required to assume the history of the United States.  Unlike, say, France, where if you become a French citizen, you really are not French.  When you become a citizen of the United States, there is not question that you are a citizen of the United States, even if you are (or were) French!  It is something we should be proud of.
     
    Even more, we should be proud of the dedication of those honorable citizens who came before us to ensure that we were a nation of laws, of liberty, and ideals.  The least we can do is honor them by being the best citizens we can be, which is really what liberty is all about.  The opportunity to be the best person you can be.  We should participate in our own institutions, improve ourselves individually, volunteer, and participate in the political process. 
     
    The American people should participate more and have a greater say in the direction of a great nation; its greatest requires a responsible, law-loving, entrepreneurial, innovative, honest, fair, and hard-working citizenry.  And we have that. 
     
     
    “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”
    - Benjamin Franklin
     
     
    Do You Think Benjamin Franklin Could Have Imagined Banker Bail-Out Bills
    With Bonus Loopholes?
     
     
     

     

    Abraham Lincoln? i wouldn't shit on him if he asked me to..

     

    Here is an extract from a great book that sums up Mr Lincoln, your history teacher forgot to tell you about the real Lincln..

    Beheading the "Great Messiah" you should read it sometime before you put such faith in historical quotes..

    Suppose a woman in this ..day and age—with plenty of personal faults herself, let that be stipulated—desired to leave her husband: partly because he made a regular practice, in order to go out and get drunk, of stealing money she had earned herself by raising raising chickens or taking in laundry; and partly because he'd already demonstrated a proclivity for domestic violence the first time she'd complained about his stealing.

    Now, when he stood in the doorway and beat her to a bloody pulp to keep her home, would we memorialize him as a hero? Or would we treat him like a dangerous lunatic who should be locked up, if for no other reason, then for trying to maintain the appearance of a relationship where there wasn't a relationship any more? What value, we would ask, does he find in continuing to possess her in an involuntary association, when her heart and mind had left him long ago?

    Abraham Lincoln, as most of us were told in Mr. Smith’s 9th-grade history class, was a God-sent savior, a brilliant, articulate, and diversity-loving individual, and the Messiah of the great "Union." Most of us were brainwashed on enchanting quotations from the "great man from the little log cabin." This week celebrates his birthday, and may he be remembered for what he truly was. So let me begin a short and biased Lincoln diatribe, and may it rattle Abe’s grave and leave him forever unsettled.

    Lincoln was a ruthless dictator of the most contemptible sort. A conniving and manipulative man, and a scoundrel at heart, he was nowhere near what old guard historians would have us believe.

    Lincoln has been transformed into the indomitable icon of the American Union. But yet, this beast ruled the country by presidential decree, exercised dictatorial powers over a free people, and proceeded to wage war without a declaration from Congress. Lincoln blocked Southern shipping ports, justifying his actions by saying "he would enforce all laws and collect all revenues due the North." The blockades were an act of war. He set his Northern Army upon the South at Fort Sumter, and set in motion one of the most brutal attacks ever upon freedom by maneuvering the South into firing the first shot at their Northern aggressors.

    However, Mr. Smith’s textbook would have us believe that Lincoln was a preservationist of sorts, a man dedicated to preserving the grandeur of State ideals. Most 9th-graders don’t have the intellect to ask what is so glorious about State ideals. Instead, they absorb just enough to make it into ignorant adulthood. In fact, if they had questioned these teachings, they would have discovered that Lincoln was a consummate con man, manipulator, and a State-serving miscreant.

    In the march through Georgia during Lincoln’s War of Northern Aggression, he and Sherman carved out a murderous campaign, maiming innocent civilians and setting a precedent for the next century’s bloody genocides that followed. A fine exemplar was he, the Communists might say.

    As if the pure evil of the war to subjugate the Southern states struggling for independence was not unscrupulous enough, Lincoln was hardly the watchman of the black race as portrayed by Mr. Smith’s ninth-grade history text, either. Lincoln had no fondness for the black man, and in fact, often spoke with the candor of that which would make him a modern-day racist of satanic proportions.

    As Lincoln scholar Tom DiLorenzo points out, Lincoln believed there was an inherent inequality between the black and white race, and held a conviction that a "superior position" should be assigned to the white man over the black man due to this political and social inequality. David Duke was forever browbeaten for muttering anything even resembling this.

    Any good historian at least understands that his goal was not to free the slaves, as DiLorenzo correctly states. In 1862, Lincoln published a letter stating, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union."

    Lincoln was the darling candidate of the moneyed industrialists of the North. At the core of his political tenets was a government of high import taxes, and his Republican party, whom he lead, passed the Morrill tariff into law soon after taking office. To quote DiLorenzo, Lincoln "even promised in his First Inaugural Address to launch an invasion of any state that failed to collect its share of tariffs." He was committing himself to collecting customs in the South, even if that meant they would secede. The free-market economics of the South were up for assault.

    Lincoln signed ten more tariff-raising bills throughout his agonizing administration. He manipulated the American public into the first income tax, he handed out huge land grants and monetary subsidies to transcontinental railroads (corporate welfare), and he took the nation off the gold standard, allowing the government to have absolute control over the monetary system. Then, he virtually nationalized the banking system under the National Currency Acts in order to establish a machine for printing new money at will and to provide cheap credit for the business elite. This mercantilist tyrant ushered in central banking, our greatest economic curse to this day.

    Furthermore, his "New Army" and the slaughter effort on the South put into motion an unprecedented profusion of federal coercion against free citizens, both North and South. By way of conscription, he assembled a vast army by presidential decree, an act of flagrant misconduct which drafted individuals into slavery to the federal government. Additionally, any war dissenters or advocates of a peaceful settlement with the South were jailed, and, as even Mr. Smith knows, Habeus Corpus was abolished for the duration of the war. He then tossed into the slammer as many as 30,000 civilians WITHOUT due process of law for reasons of criticizing the Lincoln administration, and suppressed HUNDREDS of newspapers that did not support his war effort.

    After his Army stopped secession in its tracks, Lincoln created provisional courts sympathetic to Northern aggression, invented the office of Military Governor, and issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which became a propaganda tool for historians in later years, though it did not free the slaves in Northern-controlled areas.

    All said, Lincoln was a ruthless dictator and he set the precedent for what is known as the "Imperial Presidency." He was the most evil, damaging, aggressive, abominable, and destructive president ever to defy American liberty. Happy Birthday, Abe.

    Much of History has been distorted, Abe's intention was not to free slaves, he only did that to get the fuel he needed to win the war.

     

    JUst as disgusting that it is that people celebrate columbus day... The murder and rapist holiday. What him and his men did when they came to these shores was beyond dispicable. Ohhh ... you should have seen the look on my teachers face when I showed her the truth of columbus in the records. She put away the "little boat" projects she had planned and instead had the class make indian villages to honor those that were killed.

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Power to the people. We are the ones who are supposed to hold the power. As it is now we are supressed by international bankers who own the corps who own our government. It all depends on the people.

    Will we stay suppressed by our overlords and obediently watch American Idol and become more distracted and fall deeper into a sleep or will we fight for our rights when the time comes?

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • HazmalHazmal Member CommonPosts: 1,013
    Originally posted by Briansho


    Power to the people. We are the ones who are supposed to hold the power. As it is now we are supressed by international bankers who own the corps who own our government. It all depends on the people.
    Will we stay suppressed by our overlords and obediently watch American Idol and become more distracted and fall deeper into a sleep or will we fight for our rights when the time comes?



     

    The call-to-arms will be sounded via text vote.

    ------------------
    Originally posted by javac

    well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8

  • ados25ados25 Member Posts: 32

    I guess...20-30 years.

    It would be neat if California broke off from the United States, the US is just keeping California down.

  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486


    Originally posted by Teala
    OMG come on...we're on this rock together.   America isn't the only  country right now that is hurting and no one country is the best.   We all are great, its our governments and the people in power that suck!

    I don't think there's ever been a time when the government was accepted by everyone. Just because you happen to dislike them at the moment hardly means that USA will collapse.

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  • tayschrenntayschrenn Member Posts: 234

    "Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed America, your goverment is in control. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up, go back to bed America, here is American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on the living in the land of freedom. Here you go America - you are free to do what well tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!"

     

    And this just for giggles

    "Fundamentalist Christianity - fascinating. These people actually believe that the the world is 12,000 years old. Swear to God. Based on what? I asked them.

    "Well we looked at all the people in the Bible and we added 'em up all the way back to Adam and Eve, their ages: 12,000 years."

    Well how fucking scientific, okay. I didn't know that you'd gone to so much trouble. That's good. You believe the world's 12,000 years old?

    "That's right."

    Okay, I got one word to ask you, a one word question, ready?

    "Uh-huh."

    Dinosaurs.

    You know the world is 12,000 years old and dinosaurs existed, they existed in that time, you'd think it would have been mentioned in the fucking Bible at some point.

    "And lo Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus... with a splinter in his paw. And O the disciples did run a shriekin': 'What a big fucking lizard, Lord!' But Jesus was unafraid and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw and the big lizard became his friend.

    "And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch for O so many years inviting thousands of American tourists to bring their fat fucking families and their fat dollar bills.

    "And oh Scotland did praise the Lord. Thank you Lord, thank you Lord. Thank you Lord."

    ******"

    "The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush, discussing the decline of the French economy with British Prime Minister Tony Blair

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718

    Honestly if we lasted the past 8 years we sure as hell can last some more years if you think about it.

    -In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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  • EkibiogamiEkibiogami Member UncommonPosts: 2,154
    Originally posted by ados25


    I guess...20-30 years.
    It would be neat if California broke off from the United States, the US is just keeping California down.



     

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Oh GOD please make them leave!

    This would be the greatest gift California could give the US.

    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
    —Samuel Adams

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride

    Originally posted by Bigdavo


    This is absurd, stop playing Fallout 3.



     

    Lol, theirs no point in even trying to get it through their heads anymore i've realized.

    Only at mmorpg do you hear this kind of "end of the world" stuff. Probably play to many video games.

    Let them live in fear, people in touch with reality and outside these forums really don't care, and have more productive things to do.

     

     

    Ain't that the truth! Some of these frakin' people are in serious need of some psychiatric help, a loooonnnngggg vacation or some steady sex! All they need is some dirty long hair, a burlap smock and a sign that reads "The End is Nigh!" All because of a downturn in the economy and/or their guy didn't get elected.  ::::::shaking his head in bewilderment::::::::::

  • renstimpy99renstimpy99 Member Posts: 175

    Here are some scenarios for the great minds of mmorpg.com.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esDcBwNpy1g

    I'm too lazy to comment on it myself,  and my contribution to this forum rarely extend past a full paragraph anyway.

    Discuss

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Stillkillin must have a lot of MREs to inventory. He's still not back.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150

    It'll last until we have planetary governments.

  • MandarrMandarr Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 300
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride

    Originally posted by Bigdavo


    This is absurd, stop playing Fallout 3.



     

    Lol, theirs no point in even trying to get it through their heads anymore i've realized.

    Only at mmorpg do you hear this kind of "end of the world" stuff. Probably play to many video games.

    Let them live in fear, people in touch with reality and outside these forums really don't care, and have more productive things to do.

     

    I agree.  All this doomsday bs is silly. 

    This website is a safe haven for trolls and haters. I'm done with this pathetic site.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    Originally posted by Sabiancym


    It'll last until we have planetary governments.



     

    Hopefully I will be along time dead before that day comes.

  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216
    Originally posted by Sabiancym


    It'll last until we have planetary governments.



    dibs on pluto

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  • stillkillinstillkillin Member Posts: 221

    it is clear that we are seeing the last days

    law of the jungle time has started and by this weekend those like me who are smart will get out of the citys and be waitting to come back and rebuild our once great nation

     

  • example333example333 Member Posts: 3

    i think no matter how hard it become, america will survive because its too big to fail. if it fall apart, theres no doubt it will have great impact on the whole world.

  • ionlyneeditionlyneedit Member Posts: 123

    The Cold War: Remember that certain doom?

    Planet X: Remember that certain doom?

    Y2k: Remember that certain doom?

    Bird Flu: Remember that certain doom?

    SARS: Remember that certain doom?

    AIDS: Remember that certain doom?

    Mad Cow Disease: Remember that certain doom?

    Massive Solar Flares: Remember that certain doom?

    Large Hadron Collider: Remember that certain doom?

    Pole Shift: Remember that certain doom?

    Various Governments Having The Bomb: Remember that certain doom?

    Yellowstone Super Volcano Eruption: Remember that certain doom?

    Dozens of Various Nostradamus Predictions: Remember that certain doom?

    Microbes From a Passing Comet: Remember that certain doom?

    Here are a few more certain dooms: global warming, 2012, asteroid collisions, a whole encyclopedia full of religious doomsdays that are scheduled to happen on a daily basis, planets aligning in certain ways causing the gravitation pull to rip the Earth apart, the lunar eclipse, the solar eclipse, alien invasion, any number of anti-Christ figures and so forth.

    ---
    I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by stillkillin


    it is clear that we are seeing the last days
    law of the jungle time has started and by this weekend those like me who are smart will get out of the citys and be waitting to come back and rebuild our once great nation
     



     

    So you say this weekend huh? I'm sorry but this weekend isn't good for me. Can this be rescheduled?

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