Time for another advertisement already? Out of curiosity why is it these xxx vs xxx Siege/PvP threads. Always get accompanied by the words "no lag".
...because at the time trolls claimed that DF wouldn't be able to handle more than 40v40 with FPS combat, it was vapourware, graphics were bad/photoshopped, would never release etc...
so when you see tons of players duking it out in a player-built city with no discernible lag, it's kinda fun to rub it in their faces.
the best thing is: those trolls know they were wrong and have since made new accounts, they were *that* pwned. love it.
Also noticed when watching that the graphics settings seemed to have been turned down as well... at least the shadows were set to either low or off. In some shots you'd see nothing but round blobs below the characters, rather than accurate shadows. In others there were no shadows at all. I'd wager they were turned off because if they were left on there *would* have been graphics lag; dynamic shadows are heavy on the GPU.
Darkfall engine does dynamic LOD (level of detail), so when there are more than a certain number of polygons onscreen the quality of shadows is dropped on the fly.
I am just glad i never bothered wasting my time and money on this game, I normally always jump straight into new games but held off this time and it appears this was a good move.
We are glad you didn't either.
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Time for another advertisement already? Out of curiosity why is it these xxx vs xxx Siege/PvP threads. Always get accompanied by the words "no lag".
...because at the time trolls claimed that DF wouldn't be able to handle more than 40v40 with FPS combat, it was vapourware, graphics were bad/photoshopped, would never release etc...
so when you see tons of players duking it out in a player-built city with no discernible lag, it's kinda fun to rub it in their faces.
the best thing is: those trolls know they were wrong and have since made new accounts, they were *that* pwned. love it.
Wait...
Now you're back-pedaling and ignoring the topic.
I personally don't recall threads saying the game couldn't handle 40v40. Not to say there weren't such posts, but I don't recall any. Either way, that's not the point here. What is happening here, with your post, is you're now attempting to change the focus of the topic, then attempting to throw up the "We Win! The "trolls" lose!" victory cry.
Nnnnnot quite.
Nobody was "pwned" here.
You, however, are trying to argue points you feel are more favorable to yourself and the other rabid fans, even though they're irrelevant to the OP. It's called a "strawman argument", and is extremely obvious...
In other words, this thread isn't about 40v40 in FPS. It isn't about the game being photoshopped, or vaporware.
This thread (like others before it) provides a link to a video claiming "300+ fighting it out with no lag". Upon viewing the video, people have posted comments stating that nothing being shown is anywhere close to 300; and there's certainly not a whole lot of "fighting it out" happening either way.
Further, claiming people started new accounts is purely conjecture on your part.
Let's stick to the topic, and to what we know, yes?
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What is happening here, with your post, is you're now attempting to change the focus of the topic, then attempting to throw up the "We Win! The "trolls" lose!" victory cry.
Nnnnnot quite.
Nobody was "pwned" here.
The hell they weren't... 1) DF was claimed to be vapourware since forever, it clearly isn't 2) DF was hardcore ragged on for AGES for its graphics, yet they have been widely lauded by those who've actually played the game (animations & char models excepted). 3) people said FPS combat wasn't possible higher than 40v40, it clearly is. 4) people claimed the October video would never release, it did. 5) people claimed beta would never materialise, it did. 6) people claimed release would never release, it did.
i could go on... there has been so much pwnage of trolls in the last 6 months it's hard to keep up with.
In other words, this thread isn't about 40v40 in FPS. It isn't about the game being photoshopped, or vaporware.
since when has mmorpg.com *ever* been about staying on topic?
This thread (like others before it) provides a link to a video claiming "300+ fighting it out with no lag". Upon viewing the video, people have posted comments stating that nothing being shown is anywhere close to 300; and there's certainly not a whole lot of "fighting it out" happening either way.
now look who's splitting hairs... are they fighting? yes, so "fighting it out" seems like a reasonable subject line. anyone that can count can see there isn't 300+ there, but so what? unless you're purely there to fraps, not fight, it's unlikely you'll ever get everyone that was actually there in a single video frame.
Further, claiming people started new accounts is purely conjecture on your part.
feel free to offer a better explanation for the mysterious absence of rabid vapourware trolls prior to release and now the influx of new accounts created in the last couple months with < 100 posts that have no other post activity than trolling DF.
there has definitely been some forum account rerolling here. the real conjectural part of all this is whether these people are just fat losers in their parents' basement, disgruntled AoC staff, burnt out WOW raiders who can't break the addiction, or paid viral anti-marketers.
300+ is a large number for a modern mmo? Think not.
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
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I notice people are ignoring this one from yesterday.
Seems 300 players doesnt actually work.
And combine it with a game mechanic that rests on a single player staying logged into game for 6 + hours , and you have disaster by design.
Unless of course, you think the fact that a developer plays the game in the guild that was about to be attacked may have been more of a factor than the game servers ability to support the player numbers.
300+ is a large number for a modern mmo? Think not.
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
Can anyone say Planetside?
I have, many times, but the darkfall fans like to ignore it.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
300+ is a large number for a modern mmo? Think not.
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
Can anyone say Planetside?
I have, many times, but the darkfall fans like to ignore it.
Actually now that I think about it they increased that number right after beta before launch, cause you can get 125 people per empire on a continent; 25 people before it even starts counting empire presence. So its 375. And thats for a game that released in 2003.
Thank you for completely missing the joke, cause if you had noticed the words just before that you would have realised that I was making fun of the response I expected from someone defending against my comment.
I was a nay sayer and the bigest one to say vaporware, you have something to say? Here I am. If you look at my history I have responded to the rescent events, maybe others that this forum likes to call "trolls" have gone away but I never have. Thou I only respond when I feel like it. Point to me posting? I openly admit I was wrong about the game not launching, thou I was not wrong about much of the other things. It amazes me to a point that many will even on the darkfall forums defend a game they are paying for , but alas that is fine, if you are having fun with the way the current state of the game is that is great, however reading threw most of what is being posted allot more people "thought" they were getting a game that allot of you defenders kept saying "its in , it works" yada yada... In the end it really doesn't matter at this point does it? The game is out, people have seen it all and to be perfectly honest I do HOPE it comes to be what it was ment to be. But again, if the past proves anything it proves that they have a big project that might be a bit over their limits of abilities. When their initial team parted ways, that is when this all came down and us the "trolls" "skeptics" etc started showing our faces.
While I can openly (and have admited ) that I was wrong about the release of this game, every other point (look at my history dig all you want) is right on the money about this title. I do again hope they bring what they promise, but so far their own players are proving exactly those things we had worries about in the past. So would you like to hear my new fortune telling thoughts on the title?
Closed by 2010. Could be wrong, could end up being one server they run like a bbs and get every free dollar out of the players they can before the cost of keeping a single server up outweighs the money they are taking in, but eh I could be wrong. 50 bucks plus 15 a month x 100 people is a good amount of cash even for one server with a broken game. Like DnL, take the money and run! lol, but alas that's not nice, I give them kudos for launching, but then again everything people are posting are the exact things we talked about months and years ago saying "yup, that will happen for sure" and here we are proven to the point.
Salu!
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*claps* Thank you for completely missing the joke, cause if you had noticed the words just before that you would have realised that I was making fun of the response I expected from someone defending against my comment. I am glad you are so observant.
So... you were pre-empting a childish defense with a (childish) overused meme? (LOLO... oh wait...) You could have done so much better. Hell, why not spam troll fodder all over the thread in a KRUZE KONTROL TO KEWL!!!!111one111!?
See? Did that make my post any more credible? Not, Scott.
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
1) DF was claimed to be vapourware since forever, it clearly isn't
2) DF was hardcore ragged on for AGES for its graphics, yet they have been widely lauded by those who've actually played the game (animations & char models excepted).
3) people said FPS combat wasn't possible higher than 40v40, it clearly is.
4) people claimed the October video would never release, it did.
5) people claimed beta would never materialise, it did.
6) people claimed release would never release, it did.
7) people claimed the game wouldn' t fail, it did.
*claps* Thank you for completely missing the joke, cause if you had noticed the words just before that you would have realised that I was making fun of the response I expected from someone defending against my comment. I am glad you are so observant.
So... you were pre-empting a childish defense with a (childish) overused meme? (LOLO... oh wait...) You could have done so much better. Hell, why not spam troll fodder all over the thread in a KRUZE KONTROL TO KEWL!!!!111one111!?
See? Did that make my post any more credible? Not, Scott.
So I'm going to assume not only can you not take a joke but you also were offended by the defensive your putting up; its hard to tell through text, but it sure seems as though.
Let me just say I'm sorry that your easily offended and I hope one day you will learn to have much thicker skin on the internet. As for my comment and jeer about the comments expected I didn't think it was such a big deal seeing as that is a pretty accurate reaction from some of the fan base on this current topic. Not all I know but a select few, I had also assumed that the fans who are intelligent enough would know it didn't apply to them and shrug it off. I can see now your not one of them.
I'd also like to point out that I do not think its a crime to make a little joke for the pure hell of it. Incase your wondering I don't have anything against Darkfall but I know of two games that did FPS combat on large-scale and did it better: Planetside and WWIIOnline. I was an avid player in both, and I still play WWIIOnline from time to time. In fact I would like to see Darkfall succeed if for nothing more than to show that FPS games can work on MMO scale, and is worth larger companies putting effort in. And as far as my “credibility” goes, I really couldn't care if you think I'm credible or not based off of one sentence meant in jest.
Now get off of your high horse dude and take a joke, even if you think its a poor one.
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First: The empiricle data. Planetside was epic, but wasn't deep enough to hold it's player base indefinately. WWIIOL has (yes HAS - 109f pilot, reporting for duty) its issues: including, but not limited to, visibility clipping (the 'threat' system), Alt-F4 cowardice (an issue DF has too... I think...), and long range server-tracked munitions.
Second: Take it easy I (was? am? Insert the appropriate conjugation of the verb 'to be' here) trolling to pass the time between classes. But I have to disagree with you; I find that mimicking the behavior of miscreants, even over the internet, is the e-quivelent (made a punny) of "Stooping to their level", and mars your professionalism. I just thought I'd remark on how your post was very well stated right up until you punctuated with "LOLOLOLOL".
Now -on even ground- I stand by my position, even if dismounted.
"A horse... A Horse... My kingdom for a horse!"
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
..because Shadowbane is the only other game outside Darkfall that can handle 300+ people in one area without becoming a slideshow? Can Warhammer handle that many? No. Looking away in WAR gives you usable FPS, look at the crowd, you either crash or have 1 - 2 FPS. Can World of Warcraft handle that many? No. That's rarely needed in WoW and when it does happen, its a slideshow. Can EVE Online handle that many? No. They have hard limits on each system server to prevent the slideshow. Edit: I am talking from experiance with the above 3 examples. Cable internet and a 9800 GTS should never become a slideshow in any game.
wow, you must've not played eve in a long long time then; because you are OBVIOUSLY talking out of your ass, where eve is concerned.
seriously, get your information straight. where have you ever seen 300 people together in wow? not a thousand+ not 500+; BUT, 300? or in the other games?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
What is happening here, with your post, is you're now attempting to change the focus of the topic, then attempting to throw up the "We Win! The "trolls" lose!" victory cry. Nnnnnot quite. Nobody was "pwned" here.
The hell they weren't...
1) DF was claimed to be vapourware since forever, it clearly isn't << vaporware has nothing to do with release; learn to troll better.
2) DF was hardcore ragged on for AGES for its graphics, yet they have been widely lauded by those who've actually played the game (animations & char models excepted). <<so the countryside is pretty, but your character looks and moves like crap. sounds quite wonderful
3) people said FPS combat wasn't possible higher than 40v40, it clearly is. << does this video (unlike all previous videos) show anywhere NEAR 80 people that you can view at a given time? or is it impossible for anyone making a video to EVER look around and show a huge battlefield full of folks, instead of just another group of 10-20 people running around thru a town?
4) people claimed the October video would never release, it did. << yeah, it showed a great game alright, for the 90s...
5) people claimed beta would never materialise, it did. << how long did it last? and other than to cut out a lot of promised features (which are still listed on the official website), what did it accomplish?
6) people claimed release would never release, it did. << i can buy this where?
i could go on... there has been so much pwnage of trolls in the last 6 months it's hard to keep up with. << maybe, in your trolling, you could produce accurate & relevant points? or do we not count over two dozen features being completely dropped and only a handful kept in game?
In other words, this thread isn't about 40v40 in FPS. It isn't about the game being photoshopped, or vaporware.
since when has mmorpg.com *ever* been about staying on topic? << when folk stop trolling so much, and fanboi'ing up so much; then, maybe we could get back to reasonable discussions? hard to have a reasonable discussion with people that simply ignore fact.
This thread (like others before it) provides a link to a video claiming "300+ fighting it out with no lag". Upon viewing the video, people have posted comments stating that nothing being shown is anywhere close to 300; and there's certainly not a whole lot of "fighting it out" happening either way.
now look who's splitting hairs... are they fighting? yes, so "fighting it out" seems like a reasonable subject line. anyone that can count can see there isn't 300+ there, but so what? unless you're purely there to fraps, not fight, it's unlikely you'll ever get everyone that was actually there in a single video frame. <<< was this a video that showed more than 20 people on screen at once? if so, was it a HUGE amount more? or, do we not see those areas on videos because of the lag? just askin', no need for emo-rage.
Further, claiming people started new accounts is purely conjecture on your part.
feel free to offer a better explanation for the mysterious absence of rabid vapourware trolls prior to release and now the influx of new accounts created in the last couple months with < 100 posts that have no other post activity than trolling DF. << vaporware has nothing to do with release. look the term up, it has quite a few different meanings, and most of them have nothing to do with release. darkfall will always be vaporware.
there has definitely been some forum account rerolling here. the real conjectural part of all this is whether these people are just fat losers in their parents' basement, disgruntled AoC staff, burnt out WOW raiders who can't break the addiction, or paid viral anti-marketers. << or people disgusted with a game that cut out 80% of the content that was supposed to make this a great game after the better part of a decade.
booyah! << you seem awful confident of accomplishing "something"; after confusing a lot of opinion with fact. sorry, darkfaller.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Javac = fanboi troll. I have now seen your posts all over the darkfall forums. I have held my tongue til now. You sir are nothing but a fanboi troll. You consistently rome around the darkfall forums and post the same garbage over and over. If you like the game that's cool, if you want to post something that too is fine, but for god's sake stop trolling and flaming everyone who has a different opinion than you. From everything i have read you must be the luckiest person who has experienced the game. You seem to be the only one that doesn't have a problem with this game, just must be a miracle. Sorry to troll here myself and get off topic but just tired of javac's mouth. Please get over yourself and realize that this game may be your fix for now but the game will be done in about a year or so until MO comes out or Earthrise and no one plays darkfall anymore. Darkfall will be dead soon, only thing that might keep it alive is that it's an Indie company that won't need much money to have 2 server up and running. Again, get over yourself.
Oh and btw, Darkfall is the definition of vaporware, look it up before you open your mouth and flood the forums full of your mindless fanboi garbage.
[8 hours later] Right: to clear things up. First: The empiricle data. Planetside was epic, but wasn't deep enough to hold it's player base indefinately. WWIIOL has (yes HAS - 109f pilot, reporting for duty) its issues: including, but not limited to, visibility clipping (the 'threat' system), Alt-F4 cowardice (an issue DF has too... I think...), and long range server-tracked munitions.
Second: Take it easy I (was? am? Insert the appropriate conjugation of the verb 'to be' here) trolling to pass the time between classes. But I have to disagree with you; I find that mimicking the behavior of miscreants, even over the internet, is the e-quivelent (made a punny) of "Stooping to their level", and mars your professionalism. I just thought I'd remark on how your post was very well stated right up until you punctuated with "LOLOLOLOL".
Now -on even ground- I stand by my position, even if dismounted. "A horse... A Horse... My kingdom for a horse!"
Haha well its good we can have a good laugh at it in passing. I will agree neither of those games were perfect but what game is these days ya know?
As far as what issues Darkfall has I can't comment on that realistically (I haven't played the game), but I did read quite a bit and it seems that even it is having problems with large scale battles. Again this is based off of things I have read, not seen.
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...because at the time trolls claimed that DF wouldn't be able to handle more than 40v40 with FPS combat, it was vapourware, graphics were bad/photoshopped, would never release etc...
so when you see tons of players duking it out in a player-built city with no discernible lag, it's kinda fun to rub it in their faces.
the best thing is: those trolls know they were wrong and have since made new accounts, they were *that* pwned. love it.
Darkfall engine does dynamic LOD (level of detail), so when there are more than a certain number of polygons onscreen the quality of shadows is dropped on the fly.
just a desert, nothing around but couple of trees @ with a dull graphic any game can do this i say yay!
We are glad you didn't either.
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this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
...because at the time trolls claimed that DF wouldn't be able to handle more than 40v40 with FPS combat, it was vapourware, graphics were bad/photoshopped, would never release etc...
so when you see tons of players duking it out in a player-built city with no discernible lag, it's kinda fun to rub it in their faces.
the best thing is: those trolls know they were wrong and have since made new accounts, they were *that* pwned. love it.
Wait...
Now you're back-pedaling and ignoring the topic.
I personally don't recall threads saying the game couldn't handle 40v40. Not to say there weren't such posts, but I don't recall any. Either way, that's not the point here. What is happening here, with your post, is you're now attempting to change the focus of the topic, then attempting to throw up the "We Win! The "trolls" lose!" victory cry.
Nnnnnot quite.
Nobody was "pwned" here.
You, however, are trying to argue points you feel are more favorable to yourself and the other rabid fans, even though they're irrelevant to the OP. It's called a "strawman argument", and is extremely obvious...
In other words, this thread isn't about 40v40 in FPS. It isn't about the game being photoshopped, or vaporware.
This thread (like others before it) provides a link to a video claiming "300+ fighting it out with no lag". Upon viewing the video, people have posted comments stating that nothing being shown is anywhere close to 300; and there's certainly not a whole lot of "fighting it out" happening either way.
Further, claiming people started new accounts is purely conjecture on your part.
Let's stick to the topic, and to what we know, yes?
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
The hell they weren't...
1) DF was claimed to be vapourware since forever, it clearly isn't
2) DF was hardcore ragged on for AGES for its graphics, yet they have been widely lauded by those who've actually played the game (animations & char models excepted).
3) people said FPS combat wasn't possible higher than 40v40, it clearly is.
4) people claimed the October video would never release, it did.
5) people claimed beta would never materialise, it did.
6) people claimed release would never release, it did.
i could go on... there has been so much pwnage of trolls in the last 6 months it's hard to keep up with.
since when has mmorpg.com *ever* been about staying on topic?
now look who's splitting hairs... are they fighting? yes, so "fighting it out" seems like a reasonable subject line. anyone that can count can see there isn't 300+ there, but so what? unless you're purely there to fraps, not fight, it's unlikely you'll ever get everyone that was actually there in a single video frame.
feel free to offer a better explanation for the mysterious absence of rabid vapourware trolls prior to release and now the influx of new accounts created in the last couple months with < 100 posts that have no other post activity than trolling DF.
there has definitely been some forum account rerolling here. the real conjectural part of all this is whether these people are just fat losers in their parents' basement, disgruntled AoC staff, burnt out WOW raiders who can't break the addiction, or paid viral anti-marketers.
booyah!
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
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"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
Can anyone say Planetside?
I notice people are ignoring this one from yesterday.
Seems 300 players doesnt actually work.
And combine it with a game mechanic that rests on a single player staying logged into game for 6 + hours , and you have disaster by design.
Unless of course, you think the fact that a developer plays the game in the guild that was about to be attacked may have been more of a factor than the game servers ability to support the player numbers.
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
Can anyone say Planetside?
I have, many times, but the darkfall fans like to ignore it.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Gawd I wish people would stop trying to rip this game a new one. I was at Murder Mountain when the sh*t hit the fan and that battle was EPIC.
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
this is 300+ plus in a modern MMO with FPS-style manually aimed attacks. there's a big difference. btw, i doubt it was 300+ but it's clearly a lot.
Yes, but other MMO's do it with out removing features and MOBs. and 300 is not unique to Darkfall, including FPS like mechanics.
Can anyone say Planetside?
I have, many times, but the darkfall fans like to ignore it.
Actually now that I think about it they increased that number right after beta before launch, cause you can get 125 people per empire on a continent; 25 people before it even starts counting empire presence. So its 375. And thats for a game that released in 2003.
But there were no mobs! LOLOLOLOL
And people think forumfall is bad.
"Laughing Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud"
Are you a boy band or something?
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
And people think forumfall is bad.
"Laughing Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud"
Are you a boy band or something?
*claps*
Thank you for completely missing the joke, cause if you had noticed the words just before that you would have realised that I was making fun of the response I expected from someone defending against my comment.
I am glad you are so observant.
I was a nay sayer and the bigest one to say vaporware, you have something to say? Here I am. If you look at my history I have responded to the rescent events, maybe others that this forum likes to call "trolls" have gone away but I never have. Thou I only respond when I feel like it. Point to me posting? I openly admit I was wrong about the game not launching, thou I was not wrong about much of the other things. It amazes me to a point that many will even on the darkfall forums defend a game they are paying for , but alas that is fine, if you are having fun with the way the current state of the game is that is great, however reading threw most of what is being posted allot more people "thought" they were getting a game that allot of you defenders kept saying "its in , it works" yada yada... In the end it really doesn't matter at this point does it? The game is out, people have seen it all and to be perfectly honest I do HOPE it comes to be what it was ment to be. But again, if the past proves anything it proves that they have a big project that might be a bit over their limits of abilities. When their initial team parted ways, that is when this all came down and us the "trolls" "skeptics" etc started showing our faces.
While I can openly (and have admited ) that I was wrong about the release of this game, every other point (look at my history dig all you want) is right on the money about this title. I do again hope they bring what they promise, but so far their own players are proving exactly those things we had worries about in the past. So would you like to hear my new fortune telling thoughts on the title?
Closed by 2010. Could be wrong, could end up being one server they run like a bbs and get every free dollar out of the players they can before the cost of keeping a single server up outweighs the money they are taking in, but eh I could be wrong. 50 bucks plus 15 a month x 100 people is a good amount of cash even for one server with a broken game. Like DnL, take the money and run! lol, but alas that's not nice, I give them kudos for launching, but then again everything people are posting are the exact things we talked about months and years ago saying "yup, that will happen for sure" and here we are proven to the point.
Salu!
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
So... you were pre-empting a childish defense with a (childish) overused meme? (LOLO... oh wait...) You could have done so much better. Hell, why not spam troll fodder all over the thread in a KRUZE KONTROL TO KEWL!!!!111one111!?
See? Did that make my post any more credible? Not, Scott.
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
7) people claimed the game wouldn' t fail, it did.
So... you were pre-empting a childish defense with a (childish) overused meme? (LOLO... oh wait...) You could have done so much better. Hell, why not spam troll fodder all over the thread in a KRUZE KONTROL TO KEWL!!!!111one111!?
See? Did that make my post any more credible? Not, Scott.
So I'm going to assume not only can you not take a joke but you also were offended by the defensive your putting up; its hard to tell through text, but it sure seems as though.
Let me just say I'm sorry that your easily offended and I hope one day you will learn to have much thicker skin on the internet. As for my comment and jeer about the comments expected I didn't think it was such a big deal seeing as that is a pretty accurate reaction from some of the fan base on this current topic. Not all I know but a select few, I had also assumed that the fans who are intelligent enough would know it didn't apply to them and shrug it off. I can see now your not one of them.
I'd also like to point out that I do not think its a crime to make a little joke for the pure hell of it. Incase your wondering I don't have anything against Darkfall but I know of two games that did FPS combat on large-scale and did it better: Planetside and WWIIOnline. I was an avid player in both, and I still play WWIIOnline from time to time. In fact I would like to see Darkfall succeed if for nothing more than to show that FPS games can work on MMO scale, and is worth larger companies putting effort in. And as far as my “credibility” goes, I really couldn't care if you think I'm credible or not based off of one sentence meant in jest.
Now get off of your high horse dude and take a joke, even if you think its a poor one.
tl;dr: Wall of text hits you for 5,000,000 dmg. You died. Respawn?: [ Y / N ]
[8 hours later]
Right: to clear things up.
First: The empiricle data. Planetside was epic, but wasn't deep enough to hold it's player base indefinately. WWIIOL has (yes HAS - 109f pilot, reporting for duty) its issues: including, but not limited to, visibility clipping (the 'threat' system), Alt-F4 cowardice (an issue DF has too... I think...), and long range server-tracked munitions.
Second: Take it easy
I (was? am? Insert the appropriate conjugation of the verb 'to be' here) trolling to pass the time between classes. But I have to disagree with you; I find that mimicking the behavior of miscreants, even over the internet, is the e-quivelent (made a punny) of "Stooping to their level", and mars your professionalism. I just thought I'd remark on how your post was very well stated right up until you punctuated with "LOLOLOLOL".
Now -on even ground- I stand by my position, even if dismounted.
"A horse... A Horse... My kingdom for a horse!"
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
I almost fell asleep during that video
wow, you must've not played eve in a long long time then; because you are OBVIOUSLY talking out of your ass, where eve is concerned.
seriously, get your information straight. where have you ever seen 300 people together in wow? not a thousand+ not 500+; BUT, 300? or in the other games?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
The hell they weren't...
1) DF was claimed to be vapourware since forever, it clearly isn't << vaporware has nothing to do with release; learn to troll better.
2) DF was hardcore ragged on for AGES for its graphics, yet they have been widely lauded by those who've actually played the game (animations & char models excepted). <<so the countryside is pretty, but your character looks and moves like crap. sounds quite wonderful
3) people said FPS combat wasn't possible higher than 40v40, it clearly is. << does this video (unlike all previous videos) show anywhere NEAR 80 people that you can view at a given time? or is it impossible for anyone making a video to EVER look around and show a huge battlefield full of folks, instead of just another group of 10-20 people running around thru a town?
4) people claimed the October video would never release, it did. << yeah, it showed a great game alright, for the 90s...
5) people claimed beta would never materialise, it did. << how long did it last? and other than to cut out a lot of promised features (which are still listed on the official website), what did it accomplish?
6) people claimed release would never release, it did. << i can buy this where?
i could go on... there has been so much pwnage of trolls in the last 6 months it's hard to keep up with. << maybe, in your trolling, you could produce accurate & relevant points? or do we not count over two dozen features being completely dropped and only a handful kept in game?
since when has mmorpg.com *ever* been about staying on topic? << when folk stop trolling so much, and fanboi'ing up so much; then, maybe we could get back to reasonable discussions? hard to have a reasonable discussion with people that simply ignore fact.
now look who's splitting hairs... are they fighting? yes, so "fighting it out" seems like a reasonable subject line. anyone that can count can see there isn't 300+ there, but so what? unless you're purely there to fraps, not fight, it's unlikely you'll ever get everyone that was actually there in a single video frame. <<< was this a video that showed more than 20 people on screen at once? if so, was it a HUGE amount more? or, do we not see those areas on videos because of the lag? just askin', no need for emo-rage.
feel free to offer a better explanation for the mysterious absence of rabid vapourware trolls prior to release and now the influx of new accounts created in the last couple months with < 100 posts that have no other post activity than trolling DF. << vaporware has nothing to do with release. look the term up, it has quite a few different meanings, and most of them have nothing to do with release. darkfall will always be vaporware.
there has definitely been some forum account rerolling here. the real conjectural part of all this is whether these people are just fat losers in their parents' basement, disgruntled AoC staff, burnt out WOW raiders who can't break the addiction, or paid viral anti-marketers. << or people disgusted with a game that cut out 80% of the content that was supposed to make this a great game after the better part of a decade.
booyah! << you seem awful confident of accomplishing "something"; after confusing a lot of opinion with fact. sorry, darkfaller.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Javac = fanboi troll. I have now seen your posts all over the darkfall forums. I have held my tongue til now. You sir are nothing but a fanboi troll. You consistently rome around the darkfall forums and post the same garbage over and over. If you like the game that's cool, if you want to post something that too is fine, but for god's sake stop trolling and flaming everyone who has a different opinion than you. From everything i have read you must be the luckiest person who has experienced the game. You seem to be the only one that doesn't have a problem with this game, just must be a miracle. Sorry to troll here myself and get off topic but just tired of javac's mouth. Please get over yourself and realize that this game may be your fix for now but the game will be done in about a year or so until MO comes out or Earthrise and no one plays darkfall anymore. Darkfall will be dead soon, only thing that might keep it alive is that it's an Indie company that won't need much money to have 2 server up and running. Again, get over yourself.
Oh and btw, Darkfall is the definition of vaporware, look it up before you open your mouth and flood the forums full of your mindless fanboi garbage.
Haha well its good we can have a good laugh at it in passing. I will agree neither of those games were perfect but what game is these days ya know?
As far as what issues Darkfall has I can't comment on that realistically (I haven't played the game), but I did read quite a bit and it seems that even it is having problems with large scale battles. Again this is based off of things I have read, not seen.