Yeah some can/will say it is Portugese (sp). Re-look and re-learn geography. Where is Portugal located? IN Spain. Thousands of years ago that entire area was known as Hybernia. The Ghauls lived there. In fact Apostle Paul was planing on visiting there..... before the Romans changed his vacation plans.
One of the Ghaul rulers/influencial families rebeled vs the majority of rulers/influencial familes (who would later form and become the future Spaniards), and formed his own clan/area/city-state/tribe/kingdom, etc... which became the future Portugal. Because of geographical seperation, the Spanish that they spoke changed enough FROM Spanish to be called and considered another language. Portugese. Likely named after a major family and/or city/area named ?Portugal? (Simular to how "true Spanish" is called Castille Spanish after the Castilles.)
Need more proof? It is the same way Spanish, French, Italian, and Portugese are called Latan languages. In fact, the people who speak them are called Latinos. And the countries that speak them are called Latin..... do they really speak latin? In a way yes and no. The Romans spoke full and real Latin. But because of geographical seperations, Spanish, Italian, French, and Protugese CHANGED enough FROM Latin to be called and considered other languages.
More food for thought: Why are the French called French? Because they speak French. But Canadians speak French, but are not called French? Why are Portugese called Portugese? Because they speak ??? But Brasilianos aka Brazilians speak Portugese but are not called Portugese?
Anyway saying Latin American covers both Spanish speakers AND Portugese speakers..... so there!
Back to the main subject - there was only one other MMORPG (as far as I know/knew) that seriously targeted the Spansih or Latin America market. It was Arch Mage aka Mage War. It had major servers in Mexico. With roughly 50% of the players Mexican and/or from Latin America.
Is there a naked female warrior class running around amazon river that hunts for male's head and suck out its hormon and smoke it?
I wanna play MMORPG like that. I never role-played sick hormon smoking cannibalistic tribal female warrior.
Brazilian should make a MMORPG based on Amazon tribes, and let other world take care of other theme.
In English it is "Brazilians". Next, the whole Amazon lore, idea, is from Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, and Asia Minor (aka Western Asia). That is where the Amazons lived, and where the stories of Amazons come from. And if you ever took time to research the lore behind the Amazon women, they did not hunt men. They were forced to become warriors because there was a shortage of men - from the fact men had short lifespans from dying in wars sooo much.
Columbus, along with the rest of Europe, thought the current day Americas were really India, and Asia minor. That is why they mistakingly called (and re-named) the natives "Indians", "American Indians", and.... that river in South America the "Amazon", and the area the "Amazon basen", and by default the natives there "Amazons".
Since the other major MMORPGs in the world draw from European folklore, superstitions, myths, and tales, you will have to go to them for any chance to be a naked female Amazon warrior.
Next, it does not matter what country any game DEV is from. That is not what decides what type of game they can make LOL!
And....IF Brazilians wanted to make a MMORPG based on their lore, culture, they would make it based on the 3rd oldest civilization on the planet (tied with Egypt, and Ethiopia. With Greece being the 4th oldest since Greece got everything from Egypt and Ethiopia. Rome is the 5th oldest.) which was based in the Americas - the Olmecs. Theoretically, since Brazilians later on got invaded by Europeans, and got European blood, and culture, mixed into their blood, and culture, they could indeed make MMORPGs based on traditional European myths, legends, and tales.
Since every civilization on the planet comes from the oldest, 1st civilization.... the Akkadians, then anyone can make a MMORPG about anything since evyerone on the planet comes from the same bloodlines... if one goes back far enough. That is why country of origin means nothing - people anywhere can have the same bloodtype.
Do you people look for something to argue about? I mean geez. This has pretty much been a 3 page issue of either some history lesson, (Its a gaming site...Hrm...) or an argument whether its Portugese or Spanish.
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"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
And....IF Brazilians wanted to make a MMORPG based on their lore, culture, they would make it based on the 3rd oldest civilization on the planet (tied with Egypt, and Ethiopia. With Greece being the 4th oldest since Greece got everything from Egypt and Ethiopia. Rome is the 5th oldest.) which was based in the Americas - the Olmecs. Theoretically, since Brazilians later on got invaded by Europeans, and got European blood, and culture, mixed into their blood, and culture, they could indeed make MMORPGs based on traditional European myths, legends, and tales.
I though that Olmecs were also invaded and destroyed by Spaniards, not portuguese, like Aztecs, Incas, Mayas etc... and so this civilization was also placed in spanish territory (that is, all South America but Brazil)
Originally posted by Finwe Do you people look for something to argue about? I mean geez. This has pretty much been a 3 page issue of either some history lesson, (Its a gaming site...Hrm...) or an argument whether its Portugese or Spanish.
Yep, everyone here is bored, waiting for the official release of WoW, EQ2, GW, DnL, and the rest.......
And....IF Brazilians wanted to make a MMORPG based on their lore, culture, they would make it based on the 3rd oldest civilization on the planet (tied with Egypt, and Ethiopia. With Greece being the 4th oldest since Greece got everything from Egypt and Ethiopia. Rome is the 5th oldest.) which was based in the Americas - the Olmecs. Theoretically, since Brazilians later on got invaded by Europeans, and got European blood, and culture, mixed into their blood, and culture, they could indeed make MMORPGs based on traditional European myths, legends, and tales.
I though that Olmecs were also invaded and destroyed by Spaniards, not portuguese, like Aztecs, Incas, Mayas etc... and so this civilization was also placed in spanish territory (that is, all South America but Brazil)
The first civilization in modern day North/Central/South Americas were from the lineage of Cain. (At least that is the English translation of his name from the Bible. I have yet to look up his name in Old Hebrew, or Old Aramaic.) They came from the West, roughly 12,000 to 6,000 years ago.... either over the Russia-Alaska landbridge, by ships, or by another means which I won't mention because it will cause too much controversy and will really push this thread off topic LOL!
The first natives, and even some down to modern day, bear the "mark of Cain" . A mark that is obviously visible to all who saw Cain, and his offspring. It obviously would have to be hereditary. The natives cannot grow full fledge facial hair. That is the mark of Cain that any casual observer can see, and that is passed to all his offspring. They would go on in far later generations to form the Aztec, Inca, Maya, and other American Indian empires in the modern day Americas.
The Olmecs came from the East, from modern day Africa (known as Nubia during their time, or even Cush), and invaded roughly 6,000 to 4,000 years ago..... before the natives formed the Aztec and Inca empires. Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happend. Some kind of catastraphe happend and the majority of them left and/or died. Later the Toltecs came and invaded roughly after the Olmecs left or were in the process of leaving.... roughly 5,000 to 2,000 years ago..... from the East from modern day Africa and the Meditaranian (sp). Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happened. Something also happened to them and they later left and/or died.
Much later the Spaniards came from the East, roughly 500 to 200 years ago......and invaded. They mistakingly thought they were in the middle east aka in India, and re-named the natives "Indio" aka Indians. Cristobo Colombo (English translation of his name is Christopher Columbus) the Italian who worked for Spain, never ever set foot in the Americas. He landed on one of the islands. His son Diego Colombo set foot on the mainlands. Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happened. A catastraphe happened to the Spaniards - their entire Armada got destroyed by a mysterious Atlantic storm (even though their Spanish Gallion ships were built to withstand the terrible Atlantic storms, and did for hundreds of years.). Spain lost ALL its power.
The Portuguise (sp), Dutch, British, French, all invade the Americas. Roughly 400 to 200 years ago.... Blood mixing, culture mixing... etc... happen. More blood mixing, culture mixing later happened from slaves brought from Africa, Irish mass exodus from Ireland resulting from the British colonizing Ireland, and from Germans fleeing Germany after WWII. And from many people around the world (but especially from Europe) fleeing the law - like some famous British who made the biggest train heist in British history decades ago.
A NICE book to check out, about the complete history of the Americas is "The Lost Realms" by Zecharia Sitchin. He also lists sources (which can be found in any libary) which go into more detail about the history of the Americas. His book can be found in any Barnes and Noble bookstore, or Collesium bookstore, or online, or at most other major bookstores. (ask the bookstore cashier to look up his location on their computer. Some bookstores have him in differnet locations in their stores.)
Little NOTE: The current movie "Alien vs Predator" touches a tiny, itsy, bitsy, bit on the Olmecs, and Toltecs, by mentioning their mathmatical system of longcount. (Which they introduced to the Incas, Aztecs, etc... from the blood mixing, culture mixing, etc...) Just intresting to see some pinch of real life history mentioned and showed in a mainstream, pop, movie.
-> Heading back to the sub-topic of this here thread -> The Portugese come from the Spaniards waaay back when Spain first fomed. Later Portugal was formed from part of Spain. That is why the language Portugese is extreemly simular to Spanish. Roughly 50% the same. So anyone calling Portugese ... Spanish is not really wrong. Anyone saying Brazil speaks Spanish, or that Brazilians are Spanish, is not entirely wrong.... since Portugese comes from Spanish.
->-> Heading back to the main topic of this here thread... I hope ERINIA makes enough money and profit to stick around. And they can use myths, folklore, legends, from any culture around the world as part of their game heheh. I am very glad the original poster/creator of this thread brought attention to Erinia - it is NICE seeing other countries jump into making their own MMORPGs. The same way Korea made Lineage, Norway made Anarchy Online, Germany made ... Dark Galaxy, Britian made Strive For Power, etc... etc.... The more competition, more new ideas, the better it is for ALL of us gamers!
Hey xplororor, I ditto that on your original reply. I was going to say something in that context about Spanish and Portugese both being Latin based.
Maybe the guy doesn't realize but I think if he and them others not from the US would understand that to us over here it looks just like Spanish since we are more familiar with it. Infact look what Country is below us, Geez!
for the guys that stereo type our Country as the Homer Simpson land. I think you are watching too much dumb televesion. Infact most here in the US would not think so highly of you even watching that program. That only tells me how much there is prejudice out in the other countries and very shallow thinkers they can be. Using televesion programs to determine how cultures are in the USA only shows me how your country educated their citizens. While on the same boat we us it for entertainment. Sort of reminds me of seeing a monkey watch TV with guns firing off and the monkey runs in panic thinking it is happening right where he stands.
Oh BTW, if you talk crap about the USA and try to be racist, well it won't work. Our Country is the only Country that will let anyone come here and live, start their own business, buy a house and become a Citizen. Yes, the land of the free and the home of the brave. A place where you are your own boss and no one can tell you what to do. We have freedom of speech and the right to tell you to go F yourself. So when you put down our country and talk crap about something you don't have the FIRST CLUE what our country is all about. All I can say you just must be jealous of the freedom we have and only image what it can be like in our country only from our entertainment. So carful when treading your hateful words it might be even a race that is of yours living it up in our free world.
Oh a final note, the one that says this game is even better than UO and using that term to down my country again. LOL, I laugh in your face. Then your Brazilian game is only a clone to UO and copycat to make better of a game that is more than SEVEN years OLD. Well, get that game again and compare it to all the other USA games we have and something more current instead of using the oldest and weakest game to compare to the top you can do. Oh yeah, if you hate our Country do Fing bad then get the F off our sites and go stay on your countries servers. Ah, what's wrong? Not much crap to see? Ah I C, you spend most of your time visiting web sites in the USA and then go to our forums and bad mouth my Country. You can call my President a dick, you can say things about how different we think out west but you degrade my country by bitch slapping the statue of liberty in the face, then I will have to hog tie you up and slit your fing throat.
Yes, I am evil and ruthless. You talk crap about my Country then I think you should be banned from coming to our forums.
THIS POST ONLY IMPLIES TO THE ONES THAT TALK TRASH ABOUT MY COUNTRY. Not my president, nor my state or my government at all, but the country itself that I live in(PERIOD)
The screenshots sort of remind me of Dungeon Siege.
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Erinia was launched on closed-beta, at German yesterday at 4:00 pm. www.erinia.de Gamigo is publishing the game at Europe and will launch an english version of the official site. At this moment, you can find maps, party, dungeons and caves at the Germana version.
The game can be played on 4 languages, portuguese, english, french and German, since it has been launched at Brazil, on 05/05/2004.
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Erinia? sounds familiar.
A mexican MMORPG was in development, it was named Eranor, it was cancelled after 4 years of work
Poor developers, my condolences.
NICE to see and know about a Spanish MMORPG.
Yeah some can/will say it is Portugese (sp). Re-look and re-learn geography. Where is Portugal located? IN Spain. Thousands of years ago that entire area was known as Hybernia. The Ghauls lived there. In fact Apostle Paul was planing on visiting there..... before the Romans changed his vacation plans.
One of the Ghaul rulers/influencial families rebeled vs the majority of rulers/influencial familes (who would later form and become the future Spaniards), and formed his own clan/area/city-state/tribe/kingdom, etc... which became the future Portugal. Because of geographical seperation, the Spanish that they spoke changed enough FROM Spanish to be called and considered another language. Portugese. Likely named after a major family and/or city/area named ?Portugal? (Simular to how "true Spanish" is called Castille Spanish after the Castilles.)
Need more proof? It is the same way Spanish, French, Italian, and Portugese are called Latan languages. In fact, the people who speak them are called Latinos. And the countries that speak them are called Latin..... do they really speak latin? In a way yes and no. The Romans spoke full and real Latin. But because of geographical seperations, Spanish, Italian, French, and Protugese CHANGED enough FROM Latin to be called and considered other languages.
More food for thought: Why are the French called French? Because they speak French. But Canadians speak French, but are not called French?
Why are Portugese called Portugese? Because they speak ??? But Brasilianos aka Brazilians speak Portugese but are not called Portugese? 
Anyway saying Latin American covers both Spanish speakers AND Portugese speakers..... so there!
Back to the main subject - there was only one other MMORPG (as far as I know/knew) that seriously targeted the Spansih or Latin America market. It was Arch Mage aka Mage War. It had major servers in Mexico. With roughly 50% of the players Mexican and/or from Latin America.
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Is there a naked female warrior class running around amazon river that hunts for male's head and suck out its hormon and smoke it?
I wanna play MMORPG like that. I never role-played sick hormon smoking cannibalistic tribal female warrior.
Brazilian should make a MMORPG based on Amazon tribes, and let other world take care of other theme.
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I though that Olmecs were also invaded and destroyed by Spaniards, not portuguese, like Aztecs, Incas, Mayas etc... and so this civilization was also placed in spanish territory (that is, all South America but Brazil)
Yup, Spain invaded most of South America (except Brazil and 2 or maybe 3 small French colonies, Brazil was a Portuguese colony )
Ahhh........Spain.....great Empire
You should study more often
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I though that Olmecs were also invaded and destroyed by Spaniards, not portuguese, like Aztecs, Incas, Mayas etc... and so this civilization was also placed in spanish territory (that is, all South America but Brazil)
The first civilization in modern day North/Central/South Americas were from the lineage of Cain. (At least that is the English translation of his name from the Bible. I have yet to look up his name in Old Hebrew, or Old Aramaic.) They came from the West, roughly 12,000 to 6,000 years ago.... either over the Russia-Alaska landbridge, by ships, or by another means which I won't mention because it will cause too much controversy and will really push this thread off topic LOL!
The first natives, and even some down to modern day, bear the "mark of Cain" . A mark that is obviously visible to all who saw Cain, and his offspring. It obviously would have to be hereditary. The natives cannot grow full fledge facial hair. That is the mark of Cain that any casual observer can see, and that is passed to all his offspring. They would go on in far later generations to form the Aztec, Inca, Maya, and other American Indian empires in the modern day Americas.
The Olmecs came from the East, from modern day Africa (known as Nubia during their time, or even Cush), and invaded roughly 6,000 to 4,000 years ago..... before the natives formed the Aztec and Inca empires. Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happend. Some kind of catastraphe happend and the majority of them left and/or died. Later the Toltecs came and invaded roughly after the Olmecs left or were in the process of leaving.... roughly 5,000 to 2,000 years ago..... from the East from modern day Africa and the Meditaranian (sp). Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happened. Something also happened to them and they later left and/or died.
Much later the Spaniards came from the East, roughly 500 to 200 years ago......and invaded. They mistakingly thought they were in the middle east aka in India, and re-named the natives "Indio" aka Indians. Cristobo Colombo (English translation of his name is Christopher Columbus) the Italian who worked for Spain, never ever set foot in the Americas. He landed on one of the islands. His son Diego Colombo set foot on the mainlands. Blood mixing, culture mixing, etc... happened. A catastraphe happened to the Spaniards - their entire Armada got destroyed by a mysterious Atlantic storm (even though their Spanish Gallion ships were built to withstand the terrible Atlantic storms, and did for hundreds of years.). Spain lost ALL its power.
The Portuguise (sp), Dutch, British, French, all invade the Americas. Roughly 400 to 200 years ago.... Blood mixing, culture mixing... etc... happen. More blood mixing, culture mixing later happened from slaves brought from Africa, Irish mass exodus from Ireland resulting from the British colonizing Ireland, and from Germans fleeing Germany after WWII. And from many people around the world (but especially from Europe) fleeing the law - like some famous British who made the biggest train heist in British history decades ago.
A NICE book to check out, about the complete history of the Americas is "The Lost Realms" by Zecharia Sitchin. He also lists sources (which can be found in any libary) which go into more detail about the history of the Americas. His book can be found in any Barnes and Noble bookstore, or Collesium bookstore, or online, or at most other major bookstores. (ask the bookstore cashier to look up his location on their computer. Some bookstores have him in differnet locations in their stores.)
Little NOTE: The current movie "Alien vs Predator" touches a tiny, itsy, bitsy, bit on the Olmecs, and Toltecs, by mentioning their mathmatical system of longcount. (Which they introduced to the Incas, Aztecs, etc... from the blood mixing, culture mixing, etc...) Just intresting to see some pinch of real life history mentioned and showed in a mainstream, pop, movie.
-> Heading back to the sub-topic of this here thread -> The Portugese come from the Spaniards waaay back when Spain first fomed. Later Portugal was formed from part of Spain. That is why the language Portugese is extreemly simular to Spanish. Roughly 50% the same. So anyone calling Portugese ... Spanish is not really wrong. Anyone saying Brazil speaks Spanish, or that Brazilians are Spanish, is not entirely wrong.... since Portugese comes from Spanish.
->-> Heading back to the main topic of this here thread... I hope ERINIA makes enough money and profit to stick around. And they can use myths, folklore, legends, from any culture around the world as part of their game heheh.
I am very glad the original poster/creator of this thread brought attention to Erinia - it is NICE seeing other countries jump into making their own MMORPGs. The same way Korea made Lineage, Norway made Anarchy Online, Germany made ... Dark Galaxy, Britian made Strive For Power, etc... etc.... The more competition, more new ideas, the better it is for ALL of us gamers! 
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Hey xplororor, I ditto that on your original reply. I was going to say something in that context about Spanish and Portugese both being Latin based.
Maybe the guy doesn't realize but I think if he and them others not from the US would understand that to us over here it looks just like Spanish since we are more familiar with it. Infact look what Country is below us, Geez!
for the guys that stereo type our Country as the Homer Simpson land. I think you are watching too much dumb televesion. Infact most here in the US would not think so highly of you even watching that program. That only tells me how much there is prejudice out in the other countries and very shallow thinkers they can be. Using televesion programs to determine how cultures are in the USA only shows me how your country educated their citizens. While on the same boat we us it for entertainment. Sort of reminds me of seeing a monkey watch TV with guns firing off and the monkey runs in panic thinking it is happening right where he stands.
Oh BTW, if you talk crap about the USA and try to be racist, well it won't work. Our Country is the only Country that will let anyone come here and live, start their own business, buy a house and become a Citizen. Yes, the land of the free and the home of the brave. A place where you are your own boss and no one can tell you what to do. We have freedom of speech and the right to tell you to go F yourself. So when you put down our country and talk crap about something you don't have the FIRST CLUE what our country is all about. All I can say you just must be jealous of the freedom we have and only image what it can be like in our country only from our entertainment. So carful when treading your hateful words it might be even a race that is of yours living it up in our free world.
Oh a final note, the one that says this game is even better than UO and using that term to down my country again. LOL, I laugh in your face. Then your Brazilian game is only a clone to UO and copycat to make better of a game that is more than SEVEN years OLD. Well, get that game again and compare it to all the other USA games we have and something more current instead of using the oldest and weakest game to compare to the top you can do. Oh yeah, if you hate our Country do Fing bad then get the F off our sites and go stay on your countries servers. Ah, what's wrong? Not much crap to see? Ah I C, you spend most of your time visiting web sites in the USA and then go to our forums and bad mouth my Country. You can call my President a dick, you can say things about how different we think out west but you degrade my country by bitch slapping the statue of liberty in the face, then I will have to hog tie you up and slit your fing throat.
Yes, I am evil and ruthless. You talk crap about my Country then I think you should be banned from coming to our forums.
THIS POST ONLY IMPLIES TO THE ONES THAT TALK TRASH ABOUT MY COUNTRY. Not my president, nor my state or my government at all, but the country itself that I live in(PERIOD)
that's a good game !!! but we have few problems:
1 - Only portuguese version
2 - No maps or minimaps ( you will waste lots of time walking around youself)
3 - The GM are not suxs, you cant talk about other game ou nothing about bugs or problems in Erinia
But its easy to pay and you can have lots of fun, the comunity is realy nice.
thnx
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yay looks pretty neat. Wish it was in english
This thread made me laugh like no other, you have to admire humans we will fight over everything and nothing
Watch out ET we WILL be looking to kick your ass the day after we meet you
Erinia was launched on closed-beta, at German yesterday at 4:00 pm.
www.erinia.de
Gamigo is publishing the game at Europe and will launch an english version of the official site.
At this moment, you can find maps, party, dungeons and caves at the Germana version.
The game can be played on 4 languages, portuguese, english, french and German, since it has been launched at Brazil, on 05/05/2004.
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