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I don't get it.
illidann
Member Posts: 5
I have now played WoW for 4 years, and it's the best mmorpg on the marked. Yesterday I looked at this game and was shocked. It's a total copy of WoW. It has everything WoW can offer just in very poor state.
In WoW there is pvp, in LOTRO there is nothing
In WoW there are hard raids, where it require skill and efford, in LOTRO there are only 2 raids and it's a 2 button push raid, no skill required.
The community in WoW is better and more mature than in lotro.
Classes= better designed
This game is a huge grind. In WoW you only have to do dailies to seize anything, in LOTRO you must grind for hours to get something.
All I can say is this game is horrible, and is lackuster game, cannot understand that some people enjoy playing this game.
My review on this game is 1/10, the worst mmo ever.
Back to WoW.
Comments
Possibly the worst case of WoW Trolling on the planet...
This game trumps WOW on pretty much every level.. ( minus PvP i will admit )
LoTRO is PvE centered - and there is no better game out there for PvE players. The graphics and environment are FANTASTIC...There is such a sense of immersion in the world, that you get none of in WoW...
The community is much friendlier in LoTRO - much more casual - people are here to enjoy playing, not to race up to max level to raid... its a totally different experience.
Classes are fine, in fact I would venture to say LoTRO classes are much more innovative and thought out than WoW ( Who copied EQ who copied D&D so dont bother with the "copy" argument in youf first line troll )
Best game out there - Dont let this toll fool you.
While reading this I immediately remembered something my old school teacher used to say; "Sometimes it better to shut up, so you dont expose yourself as an idiot."
personally I hate both games, wow for it's simplicity and how rabid the fanbase is on forums yet totally unhelpful of new players [and if anyone really needs reason to hate wow, all I need to say is chuck norris], lotro because I despise all theme park games, if I want to play in a virtual world I'd rather not be spoon fed where to go next.
(and yes, wow is terribly simple, my then 4 yr old had decent arena rankings)
OP might be a troll, but I still agree that LOTRO (apart from IP) is most comparable to WOW from all p2p MMO's. It even copied the typical recipes/combatskills/mount goldsinks. Apart from some tiny details (camping to obtain a rare ingredient), gear crafting is another copy. Including the meaningless raw melting timesink. Which has absolutely no meaning at all, its just idle time. But LOTRO copied it nevertheless.
I can understand however that new players to the genre or players that only played WoW before, think its vastly different from WoW. Thats just a lack of perspective. Try a game like Anarchy Online, Guild Wars or City of Heroes and you will see how different a MMO can be.
If you think Lotro is a copy of WoW... well guess what WoW is an EQ clone, just a dumb down one at that. I have played almost every MMO out there, that isn't an Asian MMO grinder. Lotro might not have invented the wheel but it definately is a top notch MMO, So is WoW... both are solid games.
I get a bit more challenge from Lotro and I like the graphic style better, but WoW makes a joke about it self, and that is a sign of a good developer.
All in all the best MMO's out right now are WoW, Lotro, and EQ... hell EQ is still one of the best MMO's ever even after 10 years.
I honestly dont understand your last paragraph, it doesnt make sense to me :P
Edit: Got it now
... I must disagree though. Player new to the MMOs will find Lotro and WoW very alike, while oldtimers will see the differences, imo. Atleast thats how it is for me. While the game mechanics as alike, the games are very different.
I like irony.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Impressive troll post :P
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
And you made an account just to post this?
Sad little troll.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Red part: pretty obvious you never played LOTRO, as there are none of these (what's a "typical recipe" btw?) in the game. Combat skills are not developed by using them (like in WOW), and anyone who plays normally can afford a mount at lvl 35. No grind is needed at all.
Gear crafting is top notch up to lvl 50, compared to the total uselesness of that in WOW (played it for 2 years, and I even like it).
Try harder.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I love how people say the PvE is better in LoTRO than WoW. Please explain it... because all I see is the EXACT same quest grind in both games. Is it better because you read the quests? Have you ever read the quests in WoW? From what I've experienced both games are full of fed ex, kill quests and click on item quests... that's it... so you must mean the writing is better in LoTRO, which is highly debatable. The epic questline in LoTRO fails on so many levels it's not even funny... because if you buy the game looking to experience the epic questline, get ready to spend half the time LFG to finish it. I'm sure you'll just say that people need to join Kins... that kind of sucks if you want to enjoy a solo game.
Then you talk about immersion, well, I personally think the art direction in WoW completely trumps LoTRO... I mean, WoW isn't going for the realistic environment look. Not sure how you can say that it's not immersive, have you have every played on a WoW RP server in an RP guild? They both have nice environments, it's just too bad that LoTRO's avatars stick out like a sore thumb in their surroundings.
Also, the community... it's server based, so you really can't compare. I played on Azshara PvP in WoW and Gladden in LoTRO, both communities seemed fine to me.
Both games suck imo, it just so happens that WoW's style and attitude appeal to the current (and horrible) popular culture, so they will always be king. Incoming retarded-looking hobbit picture from the official website... gotta love how awesome and pleasing these avatars look... I mean, just look how detailed this lumpy sack of potatoes looks... err hobbit looks. Those hands and arms are so precise!
Actually on the spoon fed part, the quests dont say "go directly here" they gived hints about where the next objective is and if you're like me and play full immersion mode its fun as hell, but everyone has their opinion and people much learn to respect that. But to everyone replying i have one simple quest....
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU FEEDING THE DAMN TROLL? I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU GUYS TO QUIT THAT SHIT ON THE LOTRO FORUMS!!!!!!
Thats an error and you know it.
The rest of your post is simply showing you have not spent any time in LOTRO.
Its funny that some of you think that LOTRO "Copied" things from wow, i'm going to chalk this up to inexperience and ignorance as to who turbine is, and what they have created.
The reality is, Wow is a cobbled together and polished version of other MMO's, most notably...Turbines MMO's. They even quite recently, and quite obviously taken cues from LOTRO.
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Thats an error and you know it.
The rest of your post is simply showing you have not spent any time in LOTRO.
Its funny that some of you think that LOTRO "Copied" things from wow, i'm going to chalk this up to inexperience and ignorance as to who turbine is, and what they have created.
The reality is, Wow is a cobbled together and polished version of other MMO's, most notably...Turbines MMO's. They even quite recently, and quite obviously taken cues from LOTRO.
How is that an error? It's from their dev diary haha.... sorry, it's ingame graphics buddy. Anyways, instead of just "chalking it up", why don't you put some effort and explain how LoTRO is different? Probably because you can't without being extremely vague, but I welcome you to. Also, what has WoW copied from LoTRO "recently"? Acheivements? Hardly. Keep going.
As far as experience goes, I can post screenshots of my 50 Minstrel... I'm sorry that I couldn't make it through the boredom that was 50-60... but I have plenty of experience in LoTRO... starting in beta.
I didnt think LoTRO held a candle to WoW myself and I wasnt that big of a fan of WoW either......LoTRO felt like MMO lite.....The game was easy and the quests got boring as could be later on.......I had 6 month sub and only lasted about 6 weeks it gets boring so fast.....Personally I dont understand why LoTRO gets so much love here myself....It really isnt challenging in any way, shape, or form....... LoTRO was the only game I played where the players were so afraid of failure that many of them would not do anything unless a 50+ was holding their hand the entire way.......
There are two reasons why wow is popular. 1. you can play it on your toaster oven and 2. you can level extremely easy.
To any wow moron out there who thinks that other mmo's "stole" from wow, you are sadly mistaken. Blizzard took many ideas from many mmos and shaped it into the lump of shit they have now.
Personally, i think it's a matter of taste. If you can handle wow character model graphics, you have no taste.
I have played WOW from the days of Beta. I have raided EVERYTHING there is to raid, cleared every single zone in the game and killed every boss the game has to offer.
I have quit playing WOW because the game as it stands now is just way to easy. Blizzard has catered more and more to the casual player and the PVP player and now the game holds no more challenges. WOTLK is a total joke, my guild cleared all the raid content by 12/1 and the only reason why we didn't do it sooner is because Illidan LAGGED like crap early in the release and made raids almost impossible. The hardest thing about WOTLK when it came out was dealing with the LAGGG.
SImply put, WOW is just too casual friendly now, the arena has ruined the game as far as balance goes. I simply regret wasting the years I have to see the game turn into the joke it is today.
PVP in WOW? Big deal. I was on a PVP server. There is no PVP, it's just a gank fest and who has the most at the stone owns it. Nothing more. There is no skill to PVP in WOW and personally I feel that you can't mix PVE with PVP and have balance, which is true in WOW. Everytime they make a change for PVE it breaks something in PVP and vice versa.
So now I'm playing LOTRO. I don't play it hardcore like I did WOW. I play it when I feel like it. I have a 28 Mini and a 25 Hunter. I have played every class to lvl 20ish just to see how they work. To me LOTRO is harder than Wow PVE wise. It's a grind as well. There are simply a TON of quests and too much running from point a to point b for my taste but it is a nice change.
I plan to keep playing it as I can't really comment on the game as a whole until I have a max lvl toon and seen the end game. To give an honest review before then is simply fail I feel. Thus far I enjoy the game but wished there was not so much running around.
In a nut shell, the OP is a fool and a trol.
It's like a big string of begats.
J.R.R.R Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings which itself is begat from legends.
It begat a minature fantasy idea for a minature wargamer.
He begat Dungeons and Dragons.
It begat a lot more similar games.
They all begat MUD's on the Net.
The MUD's begat Ultima Online.
Ultima begat Everquest(grats on 10 years old friend)
EQ begat a bunch of other games.
While they were getting begat the other games borrowed everything, added to it, improved on some stuff, did dumb things here and there, overshot the moon, hit it right, undershot it and everything inbetween.
It's evolution.
I liked all the games I spent money on and played in during the past 10 years. Which one was better depends on how I feel about a certain situation at any given time.
For me it's the community. LOTRO stands head and shoulders over WoW in that respect.
No, this is in game graphics. You know that picture you posted is not representative of the graphics in LOTRO. Don't play dumb.
Too funny
Oh...okay....this is good, real good...
One of the biggest troll failures of all time!!!
PLAYING: NOTHING!!!
PLAYED:FFXI, LotRO, AoC, WAR, DDO, Megaten, Wurm, Rohan, Mabinogi, RoM
WAITING FOR: Dust 514
LOL @ ;WoW has hard raids that require skill and effort.
Clearly not the brightest troll.
No, this is in game graphics. You know that picture you posted is not representative of the graphics in LOTRO. Don't play dumb.
Man, I don't even think that graphics can be turned THAT down, as on his picture. I think it's been hacked or photoshopped somehow. Even on minimal setting, the game looks a lot nicer
And not to mention ultra high settings.
Placing a (most probably modified), purposely worst shot, lowest ingame-settings picture to troll about a game is just about the biggest mark of victory for said game. It is so pathetic, it generates empathy
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Are you joking!!! What game are you playing at least with lotro I can keep my chat open Unlike WOW if i dont Ignore the Trade chat channel i hear a bunch of 7 year babys crapping in there pants Figuring out how to play the game while asking for Gf's
Dear Op,
You are correct, sir.
You don't get it.