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Darkfall: Alliances and War (Article)

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  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85

    Have you played Darkfall?

     

    here's your colorful game resume since you like to keep your gaming life shrouded in mystery.

     

    Have played these games: Age of Conan, Battleground Europe: WWII Online, City of Heroes, Dark and Light, Dofus, Dungeon Runners, EVE Online, EverQuest II, Face of Mankind, Furcadia, Fusion Fall, Habbo Hotel, Irth Worlds, Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted, Jumpgate, Mabinogi, Minions of Mirth, Neocron 2, Nostale, Ogre Island, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Pirates of the Caribbean Online, PlanetSide, Priston Tale, Runescape, Ryzom, Second Life, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Sword of the New World, The Chronicles of Spellborn, The Matrix Online, Toontown Online, World of Warcraft and Wurm Online

     

     

     

    I don't see darkfall..  So how could you possibly have any idea what your talking about..  I bet you play a mean game of Toontown Online though..

  • strongaxestrongaxe Member Posts: 848

    I love the picture with all the players on cat mounts! Great write-up, you really captured the essence of why Darkfall is such a great game! Of course there are problems to be worked out and such but the amount of fun these large battles are is amazing.

  • GuttsGutts Member Posts: 29

     Is there any wonder as to why all the major MMO PvP clans have found a home in DF?

     

    The game is currently the best massive PvP game on the market.

     

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by Gutts


     Is there any wonder as to why all the major MMO PvP clans have found a home in DF?
     
    The game is currently the best massive PvP game on the market.
     

     

    Your preaching to the choir.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Gutts


     Is there any wonder as to why all the major MMO PvP clans have found a home in DF?
     
    The game is currently the best massive PvP game on the market.
     



     

    This is funny, I ve had more fun in 5 mins of Planetside then this mess of a game. DAOC is still a better game then this attempt. The game get so boring so fast. Wonder why you haven t seen so many where can i buy, when can I buy threads going? Noone cares anymore.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    What major PvP guild would that be?

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  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85

    @ Leucent

     

     

    LOL didnt you just say this on another thread

    5. Planetside- For just some log in and have some fun this game did it. Only couldn t justify the 14.95 a month on this one. Overall an awesome game though.

     

    so I guess fun for 5 minutes and then what... cancel?

     

     

    OH man here he goes again... MR Bloodworth maybe if you stopped whining and actually looked at the political map PARAGUS RANTS put up on his latest blog that your probabily trolled, you would see not only who the guilds are, but EXACTLY where they are.. Oh ...wait a second you are because you are here and obviously posting because you actually READ the article

    Here pull your pants down over your eyes and take a look

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1/032009/3553_Darkfall-Alliances-and-War

     

     

     

     

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    The only persion whining here is you. I asked what MAJOR PvP guilds is he talking about.

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

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    How are you?" -Me

  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85

    did you read the article?

     

    A) Yes

    B) No

    C) No, and I haven't even p[ayed Darkfall. I just troll forums, but I win at life.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by Vince_G


    did you read the article?

     

    Yes i did.

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

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    How are you?" -Me

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Vince_G


    @ Leucent
     
     
    LOL didnt you just say this on another thread
    5. Planetside- For just some log in and have some fun this game did it. Only couldn t justify the 14.95 a month on this one. Overall an awesome game though.
     
    so I guess fun for 5 minutes and then what... cancel?
     
     
    OH man here he goes again... MR Bloodworth maybe if you stopped whining and actually looked at the political map PARAGUS RANTS put up on his latest blog that your probabily trolled, you would see not only who the guilds are, but EXACTLY where they are.. Oh ...wait a second you are because you are here and obviously posting because you actually READ the article
    Here pull your pants down over your eyes and take a look
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1/032009/3553_Darkfall-Alliances-and-War
     
     
     
     



     

    As a matter of fact I did, still I m saying it s a better game and I couldn t justify the sub. In otherwords DFO IMO is worse and well sucks. What else you want me to say about it. The game is sub par, amateur, clunky, and is BORING fast. Try and change my opinion, you can t, the fact is I played it awhile in beta and have since seen everyone I know prsonally say it s going to be great and I warned , quit. That alone speaks volumes for how shallow and boring the game is.

  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85

    Then how could you possible ask a question on who the big pvp guilds were when it was the very first thing posted in ther blog via a prety picture.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by Vince_G


    Then how could you possible ask a question on who the big pvp guilds were when it was the very first thing posted in ther blog via a prety picture.

     

    I didn't ask about "Big" i said major. The only one i see is LOD, but thier current game is warhammer. As far as darkfall goes.

    Your reading comprehension needs work, perhaps if you stop yelling in your head as you type.

     

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

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    How are you?" -Me

  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741

    I think if you look at the larger map linked in there, it should be obvious there are many PvP guilds playing.  Unless you aren't familiar with PvP guilds in general, I don't see how you can dispute major PvP guild's are not playing.   Blood, Goons (going under the name "Aweful Company"), Sinister, SUN, Wessex, LoD, Addiction.... again just naming a few off the top of my head.  Many of these guilds go all the way back to UO, AC1 Darktide, and Shadowbane.

  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85
    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Vince_G


    @ Leucent
     
     
    LOL didnt you just say this on another thread
    5. Planetside- For just some log in and have some fun this game did it. Only couldn t justify the 14.95 a month on this one. Overall an awesome game though.
     
    so I guess fun for 5 minutes and then what... cancel?
     
     
    OH man here he goes again... MR Bloodworth maybe if you stopped whining and actually looked at the political map PARAGUS RANTS put up on his latest blog that your probabily trolled, you would see not only who the guilds are, but EXACTLY where they are.. Oh ...wait a second you are because you are here and obviously posting because you actually READ the article
    Here pull your pants down over your eyes and take a look
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1/032009/3553_Darkfall-Alliances-and-War
     
     
     
     



     

    As a matter of fact I did, still I m saying it s a better game and I couldn t justify the sub. In otherwords DFO IMO is worse and well sucks. What else you want me to say about it. The game is sub par, amateur, clunky, and is BORING fast. Try and change my opinion, you can t, the fact is I played it awhile in beta and have since seen everyone I know prsonally say it s going to be great and I warned , quit. That alone speaks volumes for how shallow and boring the game is.

    Oh you played it in beta so you obviously experienced what Paragus was talking about in this thread since events like this have just started taking place a week ago. You prolly made a guy ran around for 10 minutes got killed and left. Were you in a big guild? no, did you have a guild city? no,  Did you take place in a city siege? no. The fact is your little playing experience in beta was not what Darfall is about.    lol "speaks volumes".  "I'm sure the masses are ready to take to the street against Darkfall

     

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by Paragus1


    I think if you look at the larger map linked in there, it should be obvious there are many PvP guilds playing.  Unless you aren't familiar with PvP guilds in general, I don't see how you can dispute major PvP guild's are not playing.   Blood, Goons (going under the name "Aweful Company"), Sinister, SUN, Wessex, LoD, Addiction.... again just naming a few off the top of my head.  Many of these guilds go all the way back to UO, AC1 Darktide, and Shadowbane.

     

    Yeah, i see them, however...some of those are guilds built to simply grief, and will join any game created that will allow them to do so. And for every single one of them, it is not their main game.

    As for the Guild meta game, this happens in all PvP games...its not unique to Darkfall. In fact your article attempts to place emergent game play as something that was created by the developers.

    Its cool that its going on... But come on now.

    I don't care if people enjoy the game, i think that's great, but the zealotry (not you) is something that needs to stop.

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Vince_G

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Vince_G


    @ Leucent
     
     
    LOL didnt you just say this on another thread
    5. Planetside- For just some log in and have some fun this game did it. Only couldn t justify the 14.95 a month on this one. Overall an awesome game though.
     
    so I guess fun for 5 minutes and then what... cancel?
     
     
    OH man here he goes again... MR Bloodworth maybe if you stopped whining and actually looked at the political map PARAGUS RANTS put up on his latest blog that your probabily trolled, you would see not only who the guilds are, but EXACTLY where they are.. Oh ...wait a second you are because you are here and obviously posting because you actually READ the article
    Here pull your pants down over your eyes and take a look
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Paragus1/032009/3553_Darkfall-Alliances-and-War
     
     
     
     



     

    As a matter of fact I did, still I m saying it s a better game and I couldn t justify the sub. In otherwords DFO IMO is worse and well sucks. What else you want me to say about it. The game is sub par, amateur, clunky, and is BORING fast. Try and change my opinion, you can t, the fact is I played it awhile in beta and have since seen everyone I know prsonally say it s going to be great and I warned , quit. That alone speaks volumes for how shallow and boring the game is.

    Oh you played it in beta so you obviously experienced what Paragus was talking about in this thread since events like this have just started taking place a week ago. You prolly made a guy ran around for 10 minutes got killed and left. Were you in a big guild? no, did you have a guild city? no,  Did you take place in a city siege? no. The fact is your little playing experience in beta was not what Darfall is about.    lol "speaks volumes".  "I'm sure the masses are ready to take to the street against Darkfall

     

    Keep trying, it s not working. I said people I know have since quit. In otherwords they as a fairly big guild, saw the game you are praising. Thing is you have to realize not everyone is going to like it. They all hated it. They have said there was some fun to be had but in general the game wasn t anything to write home about. I haven t played after launch I ll give you that, but i know a steaming pile when I see one. No article is going to change that. I ll take my friends opinions over yours or his. I ve played games with them for years so I trust their judgement on games. I did test it quite a bit btw, not a couple hours. Anyways keep trying to sell the game, I guess you re the type that likes people telling you I told you so.

     

  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Paragus1


    I think if you look at the larger map linked in there, it should be obvious there are many PvP guilds playing.  Unless you aren't familiar with PvP guilds in general, I don't see how you can dispute major PvP guild's are not playing.   Blood, Goons (going under the name "Aweful Company"), Sinister, SUN, Wessex, LoD, Addiction.... again just naming a few off the top of my head.  Many of these guilds go all the way back to UO, AC1 Darktide, and Shadowbane.

     

    Yeah, i see them, however...some of those are guilds built to simply grief, and will join any game created that will allow them to do so. And for every single one of them, it is not their main game.

    As for the Guild meta game, this happens in all PvP games...its not unique to Darkfall. In fact your article attempts to place emergent game play as something that was created by the developers.

    Its cool that its going on... But come on now.

     

    Wait, so you are trying to say those guilds are not major PvP guilds because they have been known to grief?  Did you go check each and every guild's website to find ouit where they are focusing their efforts?  I seriously am doubting you were able to do that in the 5 minutes since I listed them.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by Paragus1

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Paragus1


    I think if you look at the larger map linked in there, it should be obvious there are many PvP guilds playing.  Unless you aren't familiar with PvP guilds in general, I don't see how you can dispute major PvP guild's are not playing.   Blood, Goons (going under the name "Aweful Company"), Sinister, SUN, Wessex, LoD, Addiction.... again just naming a few off the top of my head.  Many of these guilds go all the way back to UO, AC1 Darktide, and Shadowbane.

     

    Yeah, i see them, however...some of those are guilds built to simply grief, and will join any game created that will allow them to do so. And for every single one of them, it is not their main game.

    As for the Guild meta game, this happens in all PvP games...its not unique to Darkfall. In fact your article attempts to place emergent game play as something that was created by the developers.

    Its cool that its going on... But come on now.

     

    Wait, so you are trying to say those guilds are not major PvP guilds because they have been known to grief?  Did you go check each and every guild's website to find ouit where they are focusing their efforts?  I seriously am doubting you were able to do that in the 5 minutes since I listed them.

    No, i am saying that the part of those guilds that are major...are not playing. Known to grief? How about Point is to grief. Its their thing, that's what they like...i have even played with some...but as soon (if) the various loopholes are fixed, they will move onto the next game.

     

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Vince_G


    Then how could you possible ask a question on who the big pvp guilds were when it was the very first thing posted in ther blog via a prety picture.

     

    I didn't ask about "Big" i said major. The only one i see is LOD, but thier current game is warhammer. As far as darkfall goes.

    Your reading comprehension needs work, perhaps if you stop yelling in your head as you type.

     

    You meant to link this page:

    www.lotd.org/showthread.php

     

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  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Vince_G


    Then how could you possible ask a question on who the big pvp guilds were when it was the very first thing posted in ther blog via a prety picture.

     

    I didn't ask about "Big" i said major. The only one i see is LOD, but thier current game is warhammer. As far as darkfall goes.

    Your reading comprehension needs work, perhaps if you stop yelling in your head as you type.

     

    <Mod Edit>

    LoD are Lords of Death.  Coalition of Character Killers is LotD's tag in Darkfall.

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  • jonyakjonyak Member Posts: 320

    My guild has 200 active members in Darkfall.

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Paragus1

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by Paragus1


    I think if you look at the larger map linked in there, it should be obvious there are many PvP guilds playing.  Unless you aren't familiar with PvP guilds in general, I don't see how you can dispute major PvP guild's are not playing.   Blood, Goons (going under the name "Aweful Company"), Sinister, SUN, Wessex, LoD, Addiction.... again just naming a few off the top of my head.  Many of these guilds go all the way back to UO, AC1 Darktide, and Shadowbane.

     

    Yeah, i see them, however...some of those are guilds built to simply grief, and will join any game created that will allow them to do so. And for every single one of them, it is not their main game.

    As for the Guild meta game, this happens in all PvP games...its not unique to Darkfall. In fact your article attempts to place emergent game play as something that was created by the developers.

    Its cool that its going on... But come on now.

     

    Wait, so you are trying to say those guilds are not major PvP guilds because they have been known to grief?  Did you go check each and every guild's website to find ouit where they are focusing their efforts?  I seriously am doubting you were able to do that in the 5 minutes since I listed them.

    No, i am saying that the part of those guilds that are major...are not playing. Known to grief? How about Point is to grief. Its their thing, that's what they like...i have even played with some...but as soon (if) the various loopholes are fixed, they will move onto the next game.

     

    Then you don't know WTF you are talking about.

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  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85

    discussion over?

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    The political fighting in-game looks very promising longterm. Aside from regular MMO housekeeping, priority should be made to keep clans constantly reevaluating alliances and hatreds. Aventurine needs to prioritize a few things to keep people interested:

    1) Keep fixing bugs/macrokids/adding servers/providing accounts. Bring in the ships and the warhulks.


    2) Once in awhile, bring out the usual new and additional content and beef up crafting to allow guilds to keep killing each other. Fix that bug (?) where when the War declarer disconnects, everyone loses. That is B A D.


    3) After you do the above, GET OUT OF THE PLAYER'S WAY. Do not make the mistake other companies keep doing by twinking and tweaking once the ideal ebb and flow of the game has been reached. Allow it to progress naturally since it is a sandbox. Do not try to reinvent the wheel. This game is predicated on being able to dispatch other clans purely based on personalities. Do not turn this into some stupid loot grind with dungeoning for "resistance gear" or some other stupid stuff. That is the fastest way to grind down your PvP action is to all of a sudden, send clans on Easter Egg hunts for the Hammer of Doom.

    I know to many who read this, it sounds like "Duh, of course". But when you see how many companies get lost in the forest chasing subs, they lose sight of the main goals of their games. So its worth repeating, and a lot.

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