Have to say, your grammer and spelling makes me want to puke. Which in turn lowers what ever credibility you had to start with (which wasn't much, read the Terms of Serivce, they say they WILL not provide info and have reason to ban you for anything at anytime, and that it is not YOUR account, it is theirs.)
Any dignity you had left after your conversation with CCP was lost when you made this post.
CCP rocks. EvE rocks.
Good luck with your boycott.
actually, anyone playing this game for any amount of time, that has a brain, already knows that ccp cheats, and has always cheated for their friends.
anyone saying otherwise is an idiot, a liar, a fanboi, or, well, stupid beyond words. and that's based on ONLY the things ccp has admitted to over the years, which has been a lot for anyone in null sec, or following happenings in nullsec.
Glad to see that something awful has a presence here as well. I read this as a typical goon statement.
"Eve suckz! CCP cheatz!11!!!"
All the while you probably have 5 accounts and have been playing for 3 years.
thanks for proving my point.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I have yet to see any hard facts.
Oh, and your opinion doesn't count as a fact, nor does hearsay.
But hey, whatever. Who gives a rat's ***. I like the game.
i guess you don't follow what happens in eve then; in spite of your assertions that you play.
off the top of my head, items ccp has readily admitted to --
limiting the max number of players to a bobbite capshipyard system, but doing it after the bobbite forces had assembled and before hardly any enemies had appeared... yes, this was a while back, but it was something ccp readily 'fessed up to.
t20... MOST of K's accusations were admitted to by ccp, the rest were just ignored, so stupid people probably ignored all those other items, which held as much weight as the items to which ccp admitted.
that kenny alliance, that's been around for months... but ccp let them change their NON-OFFENSIVE name (allowing them to keep sovereignty AND revert back to a BOB name... which according to dianabolic -- we didn't want anyways), which they never let anyone change before... much less change it to a name with more characters than are allowed?
but hey, since you don't pay attention to anything in new eden, you wouldn't have noticed any of these items which ccp readily 'fessed up to...
and people make fun of the type of people who play wow.
please.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
i guess you don't follow what happens in eve then; in spite of your assertions that you play.
off the top of my head, items ccp has readily admitted to -- limiting the max number of players to a bobbite capshipyard system, but doing it after the bobbite forces had assembled and before hardly any enemies had appeared... yes, this was a while back, but it was something ccp readily 'fessed up to.
t20... MOST of K's accusations were admitted to by ccp, the rest were just ignored, so stupid people probably ignored all those other items, which held as much weight as the items to which ccp admitted.
that kenny alliance, that's been around for months... but ccp let them change their NON-OFFENSIVE name (allowing them to keep sovereignty AND revert back to a BOB name... which according to dianabolic -- we didn't want anyways), which they never let anyone change before... much less change it to a name with more characters than are allowed?
but hey, since you don't pay attention to anything in new eden, you wouldn't have noticed any of these items which ccp readily 'fessed up to...
and people make fun of the type of people who play wow.
please.
Your post doesn't make sense at all. I can't understand what you're saying. But anyway:
I do follow the things happening. It's just that I don't get all mushy about it, nor do I start crying (which is essentially what you're doing) that EvE players are idiots and that CCP are cheaters. CCP has screwed up occasionally, but that doesn't make EvE Online utter crap.
The way I see it, you're just a drama queen trying to shoot down everything about EvE Online (including it's playerbase, which makes me chuckle a bit, considering your arguments are purely about CCP---> as far as I can tell, obviously). Your tone and reference to WoW players emphasize this as well.
I respect your decision to NOT play EvE Online because of this (I mean....you DID stop playing, right?). I just wish people like you would respect MY decision to keep playing it despite CCP's screw-ups. Wishfull thinking? Yeah. I think I'd get more results trying to reason with Veldspar :P.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I hit the nail on the head, huh? You are a goon aren't you?
I'm not sure what your point is exactly? That a dev/gm/employee with access to a GM client "cheated?" Having worked in the industry for a long while I promise you that this occurs in every MMORPG.
CCP responded to this by instituting a whole department at the company to make sure this doesn't happen again. More than I can say for most other major MMO companies.
And T20 no longer works for CCP. He left about a year ago.
No he wasn't fired. Yes he would have been fired at most other MMO companies. Then again, most other MMO companies are in the United States and don't have to deal with EU employment regulations, which make it incredibly hard for a company to just fire an employee.
Yes, I realize, you're a goon. You hate CCP. You were probably ordered here to bash them on these forums by your alliance leaders. Then again, you and all your goon friends continue to play this shity game, developed by this shity company and most of you have multiple accounts.
What's the point? Like Althuser suggests when talking about ideology, what you say here is meaningless. What you do is everything. See this is how I know former SWG players really hate SOE and the NGE ... they no longer play. Goons on the other hand, they talk out their ***.
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I hit the nail on the head, huh? You are a goon aren't you?
I'm not sure what your point is exactly? That a dev/gm/employee with access to a GM client "cheated?" Having worked in the industry for a long while I promise you that this occurs in every MMORPG.
CCP responded to this by instituting a whole department at the company to make sure this doesn't happen again. More than I can say for most other major MMO companies.
And T20 no longer works for CCP. He left about a year ago.
No he wasn't fired. Yes he would have been fired at most other MMO companies. Then again, most other MMO companies are in the United States and don't have to deal with EU employment regulations, which make it incredibly hard for a company to just fire an employee.
Yes, I realize, you're a goon. You hate CCP. You were probably ordered here to bash them on these forums by your alliance leaders. Then again, you and all your goon friends continue to play this shity game, developed by this shity company and most of you have multiple accounts.
What's the point? Like Althuser suggests when talking about ideology, what you say here is meaningless. What you do is everything. See this is how I know former SWG players really hate SOE and the NGE ... they no longer play. Goons on the other hand, they talk out their ***.
hi, grats on figuring out really difficult things and completely mis-understanding/representing them. kudos on that!
grats on you trolls for "assuming" i'm a goon based upon my posting style, and NOT by my stating (in words like these), "hi, i'm a goon" -- about 15 or 20 times this past year alone. but good for making that assumption based upon how i post... which posting on THIS forum, i've probably been here longer and posted more than either of you with your (bad) trolling attempts. i've also defended the game against idiots whining about skill points and having no clue wtf they were talking about, much like other items...
now. you're actually arguing and disputing items which CCP themselves, have plainly admitted to; but, anyone should give any credence whatsoever to anything you say? so, in your own thinking, by denying items CCP has admitted to -- you are calling them liars and saying they've never done anything.
but hey, let's run with some of your silliness... in other games devs play and cheat. ok. now, to show that you are speaking logically -- how many of those games do the following:
1 have a single server
2 give real world value to ingame money by protecting isk-to-gtc transfers
3 have land/territory/etc that is conquerable and has resources to utilize.
i mean, you're going on about other games having devs and they cheat, and so it's no big deal - so, in that vein of thinking, if a ccp employee were to spawn say, a titan bpo and hand it out to a friend; then, that would have the same effect as a dev spawning a full set of the highest tier purple gear in wow for a friend, correct? otherwise, your comparison, logically, makes no damn sense.
but hey, good to know you were able to read and comprehend the SECTION where i mentioned t20 and COMPLETELY ignore the other items i mentioned. that's very much like how ccp employees do things... are you here to (badly) attempt to do viral marketing and damage control? i mean, i don't remember a whole lot of posts on this forum by you (or your little buddy) and you're totally attempting DC with misinformation...
go back to your masters and tell them that you failed. awfully.
oh, and by the by, there's probably about a 3rd of the goons that hate goons more than any of you pubbies ever possibly could understand. but whatever, the world needs its forrest gumps too.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
Figured as much.
judging by your posting, you sound like you're a ccp apologist sent here by the mother-company to do damage control for the 50 people that read this forum!
good job at failing with that by ignoring factual information and going off on a memememe tangent.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Any dignity you had left after your conversation with CCP was lost when you made this post.
CCP rocks. EvE rocks.
Good luck with your boycott.
actually, anyone playing this game for any amount of time, that has a brain, already knows that ccp cheats, and has always cheated for their friends.
anyone saying otherwise is an idiot, a liar, a fanboi, or, well, stupid beyond words. and that's based on ONLY the things ccp has admitted to over the years, which has been a lot for anyone in null sec, or following happenings in nullsec.
Glad to see that something awful has a presence here as well. I read this as a typical goon statement.
"Eve suckz! CCP cheatz!11!!!"
All the while you probably have 5 accounts and have been playing for 3 years.
thanks for proving my point.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I have yet to see any hard facts.
Oh, and your opinion doesn't count as a fact, nor does hearsay.
But hey, whatever. Who gives a rat's ***. I like the game.
i guess you don't follow what happens in eve then; in spite of your assertions that you play.
off the top of my head, items ccp has readily admitted to --
limiting the max number of players to a bobbite capshipyard system, but doing it after the bobbite forces had assembled and before hardly any enemies had appeared... yes, this was a while back, but it was something ccp readily 'fessed up to.
t20... MOST of K's accusations were admitted to by ccp, the rest were just ignored, so stupid people probably ignored all those other items, which held as much weight as the items to which ccp admitted.
that kenny alliance, that's been around for months... but ccp let them change their NON-OFFENSIVE name (allowing them to keep sovereignty AND revert back to a BOB name... which according to dianabolic -- we didn't want anyways), which they never let anyone change before... much less change it to a name with more characters than are allowed?
but hey, since you don't pay attention to anything in new eden, you wouldn't have noticed any of these items which ccp readily 'fessed up to...
and people make fun of the type of people who play wow.
please.
hi, ccp employees posting here and posing as bad trolls -- this is the post to which i was referring, which you both seem to have not been able to dispute the factual accounts held therein.
if you did a LITTLE research on eve-search, or even this forum, you could pull up other items, to which CCP ADMITTED their wrong-doings.
but ya know, hey, CCP admitting to things must just be hear-say and opinions, not factual information.
what EXACT type of thinking/logic is that? forrest gump style?
seriously -- damage control failed. credibility - demolished. the 50+ readers of this forum -- not moved by lies.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Don't like CCP employees playing the game and potentially cheating then don't play it. It's not as though CCP as a whole is cheating to help BoB.
Have CCP employees cheated in the past ? Yes, most definitely.
Will it ever happen again ? It's possible.
Does this happen in other MMOs as well ? Yes, yes it does.
Why does Eve stick out in this regard ? Because Eve is a single shard game with so many people on it. Since everything has an effect some where in the game universe things like a cheating dev giving out blue prints is a much more noticeable than say a dev handing out a couple of high level items in other games.
I do not condone cheating by devs but at the same time I can't do anything about it really. CCP is open about their exployees playing and this as a whole for the game is great since the devs actually have hands on knowledge of the game (despite what some people like to think).
We do now have the CSM for dealing with issues like the ones decribed above and BoB having their name reverted back to Kenzoku is a sign that CCP will listen and do the right thing. The fact it got changed to BoB in the first place was a mistake but it was fixed. People do make mistakes and should be allowed to fix that mistake without being totally chastized for it.
CCP are not perfect and no devs out there are, but god damnit Eve is still the one game out there right now that has an actual soul. Everything else out there now is bland and generic with no feeling. (Darkfall looks like it could be interesting but I am waiting to see on that game for a while still).
Damian7, ignoring my replies and calling me a CCP employee really doesn't help your "cause". It does, however, help mine.
I'lle stop feeding your rant now. If you're not even going to bother reading what I (and others) have posted, there is no point in taking this any further.
Enjoy your puberty while it lasts. You'lle get the wake-up call very soon.
I would have banned you too, being you apparently bought isk (few people beg for proof that they bought it if they know they didn't, mainly becuase they were never caught for something they didn't do), then you were hostile, rude, aggressive and if your message back was anything like this post you sound like an asinine teenager.
I've found CCP rather nice with the customer service, they had no problem transferring thirty days of play from one of my accounts to another, even though there was 25 left (they took a while to get around to it). I've heard some nasty stuff about they're support, albeit very little.
In the end, please, stop whining, learn your lesson here. If you didn't do it, be calm, stay polite. If you did do it, faceplam, learn your lesson, don't complain, and don't do it again.
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Damian7, ignoring my replies and calling me a CCP employee really doesn't help your "cause". It does, however, help mine. I'lle stop feeding your rant now. If you're not even going to bother reading what I (and others) have posted, there is no point in taking this any further. Enjoy your puberty while it lasts. You'lle get the wake-up call very soon.
re-read your replies -- all you did was slam and (poorly) troll me. you had nothing there to reply to, other than what i replied to...
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Don't like CCP employees playing the game and potentially cheating then don't play it. It's not as though CCP as a whole is cheating to help BoB. Have CCP employees cheated in the past ? Yes, most definitely. Will it ever happen again ? It's possible. Does this happen in other MMOs as well ? Yes, yes it does. Why does Eve stick out in this regard ? Because Eve is a single shard game with so many people on it. Since everything has an effect some where in the game universe things like a cheating dev giving out blue prints is a much more noticeable than say a dev handing out a couple of high level items in other games. I do not condone cheating by devs but at the same time I can't do anything about it really. CCP is open about their exployees playing and this as a whole for the game is great since the devs actually have hands on knowledge of the game (despite what some people like to think). We do now have the CSM for dealing with issues like the ones decribed above and BoB having their name reverted back to Kenzoku is a sign that CCP will listen and do the right thing. The fact it got changed to BoB in the first place was a mistake but it was fixed. People do make mistakes and should be allowed to fix that mistake without being totally chastized for it. CCP are not perfect and no devs out there are, but god damnit Eve is still the one game out there right now that has an actual soul. Everything else out there now is bland and generic with no feeling. (Darkfall looks like it could be interesting but I am waiting to see on that game for a while still).
well said... and just because (ingame) we can't do anything about ccp cheating, that doesn't mean we should silently take it.
i don't believe it was the CSMs that intervened in the recent name/sov incident. it was a general outrage by the playerbase.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
hi, ccp employees posting here and posing as bad trolls -- this is the post to which i was referring, which you both seem to have not been able to dispute the factual accounts held therein. if you did a LITTLE research on eve-search, or even this forum, you could pull up other items, to which CCP ADMITTED their wrong-doings.
but ya know, hey, CCP admitting to things must just be hear-say and opinions, not factual information.
what EXACT type of thinking/logic is that? forrest gump style?
seriously -- damage control failed. credibility - demolished. the 50+ readers of this forum -- not moved by lies.
"CCP employees posting here and posing as bad trolls."
Honestly? WTF? The only bad troll here seems to be you. Talk about baseless and wild conjecture on your part. And you expect us to take you seriously?
I've been playing eve the better part of 3 years. I was there. I know all about it. The problem is that I've worked in the industry for a very long time. What happened at CCP isn't really different than what happens on a weekly basis at other game companies. CCP has been very open about what happened. They instituted an entire department to help fix the errors and stop them from happening in the future. The introduced the CSM program, allowing the player base to vote on people who go to Iceland, give input to the devs, and make sure stuff is cosher.
Now tell me, please, what other MMO company involves its player base like this at every level of design? I'll wait here while you scour the internet so that you discover that none do.
"seriously -- damage control failed. credibility - demolished. the 50+ readers of this forum -- not moved by lies."
Yet we should be moved by your trolling, by your baseless conjecture and by your emphatic gesturing. All while the Something Aweful community continues to pay CCP thousands and thousands of dollars every week to continue playing the game they bash.
Truth? Goon attempts to discredit CCP continue to fail. The game continues to grow despite your best efforts.
Don't like CCP employees playing the game and potentially cheating then don't play it. It's not as though CCP as a whole is cheating to help BoB. Have CCP employees cheated in the past ? Yes, most definitely. Will it ever happen again ? It's possible. Does this happen in other MMOs as well ? Yes, yes it does. Why does Eve stick out in this regard ? Because Eve is a single shard game with so many people on it. Since everything has an effect some where in the game universe things like a cheating dev giving out blue prints is a much more noticeable than say a dev handing out a couple of high level items in other games. I do not condone cheating by devs but at the same time I can't do anything about it really. CCP is open about their exployees playing and this as a whole for the game is great since the devs actually have hands on knowledge of the game (despite what some people like to think). We do now have the CSM for dealing with issues like the ones decribed above and BoB having their name reverted back to Kenzoku is a sign that CCP will listen and do the right thing. The fact it got changed to BoB in the first place was a mistake but it was fixed. People do make mistakes and should be allowed to fix that mistake without being totally chastized for it. CCP are not perfect and no devs out there are, but god damnit Eve is still the one game out there right now that has an actual soul. Everything else out there now is bland and generic with no feeling. (Darkfall looks like it could be interesting but I am waiting to see on that game for a while still).
well said... and just because (ingame) we can't do anything about ccp cheating, that doesn't mean we should silently take it.
i don't believe it was the CSMs that intervened in the recent name/sov incident. it was a general outrage by the playerbase.
Lmao. I called you out and you didn't bother to respond. I guess I *DO* know who you are. I guess you *ARE* a goon (this was never really in doubt).
Good to know. You bitch and whine about a game company you probably pay $45 a month to or more. You call them, and their game crap. You make baseless and slanderous remarks about the company, the game and people who post here. All while completely ignoring those who show you for what you are.
Good form, sir. You live up to the goon troll credo.
They were exploiting the game from the start with 3rd party tools - and instead of banning all 2000ish of them CCP added the tool into the game (friendly/unfriendly in chat marker).
Goons together with the russians exploited the old server structure to crash nodes at will and thus getting their goals without fighting for it.
Goons whining is ironic and sad, but I guess it's fun to throw rocks when you live in a glasshouse.
Damian7, ignoring my replies and calling me a CCP employee really doesn't help your "cause". It does, however, help mine. I'lle stop feeding your rant now. If you're not even going to bother reading what I (and others) have posted, there is no point in taking this any further. Enjoy your puberty while it lasts. You'lle get the wake-up call very soon.
re-read your replies -- all you did was slam and (poorly) troll me. you had nothing there to reply to, other than what i replied to...
...it blows my mind that you are actually willing to pay money to such an obviously decietful company...
Yeah.... your right....
We should all be playing SOE games instead. An obviously much more honest company with the highest standards of impeccable integrity.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And where in my post did I even mention SOE?
They have some similar problems. So did Vanguard BEFORE SOE bought the joke of a game. A complete lack of responsablity from the devs. But more to the point, SOE doesn't have a SINGLE game worth paying monthly for. So they are hardly a valid comparrison.
EVE is simply not worth paying monthly for unless you are part of a side the Devs have taken to pandering to, or unless you are able to be blissfully ignorant of the conditions in the game.
And if you are, yeah you might as WELL play an SOE game. Or go spend some money on a collector's edition copy of Tabula Rasa. See where that gets you.
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Girls don't use the internet unless theres a webcam involved....its a physical impossibility.
They also don't play them thar vidya gaymes, mmorpg = most men online role play girls...even in ventrillo.
...it blows my mind that you are actually willing to pay money to such an obviously decietful company...
Yeah.... your right....
We should all be playing SOE games instead. An obviously much more honest company with the highest standards of impeccable integrity.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And where in my post did I even mention SOE?
They have some similar problems. So did Vanguard BEFORE SOE bought the joke of a game. A complete lack of responsablity from the devs. But more to the point, SOE doesn't have a SINGLE game worth paying monthly for. So they are hardly a valid comparrison.
EVE is simply not worth paying monthly for unless you are part of a side the Devs have taken to pandering to, or unless you are able to be blissfully ignorant of the conditions in the game.
And if you are, yeah you might as WELL play an SOE game. Or go spend some money on a collector's edition copy of Tabula Rasa. See where that gets you.
OBVIOUSLY my sarcasm and point has gone COMPLETELY over your head. Here I'll make it simple for you...
Errr.. duh evil empire of duh CCP don't have duh mono... uh... monopo... uh, dey aren't de only oneses who doos dis!
SOE is wun of dah werstes at it, and a super duper grate exzampel of all duh udder comeponies who doo dis 2, so I wuz making duh funn of dah wimpering moronzes who are duh pew pewing about duh evil umpyre of da CCP. Ewe hafe obvio.. obvios.. uhh... less insight dan' dis posts grammerr.
Goons whining about cheating is hillarious. They were exploiting the game from the start with 3rd party tools - and instead of banning all 2000ish of them CCP added the tool into the game (friendly/unfriendly in chat marker). Goons together with the russians exploited the old server structure to crash nodes at will and thus getting their goals without fighting for it. Goons whining is ironic and sad, but I guess it's fun to throw rocks when you live in a glasshouse.
Goons whining about cheating is hillarious. They were exploiting the game from the start with 3rd party tools - and instead of banning all 2000ish of them CCP added the tool into the game (friendly/unfriendly in chat marker). Goons together with the russians exploited the old server structure to crash nodes at will and thus getting their goals without fighting for it. Goons whining is ironic and sad, but I guess it's fun to throw rocks when you live in a glasshouse.
Hahaha, this shit never gets old.
Never stop posting.
Which part - the fact that you used a 3rd party tool to change the portraits or the node crashing?
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Have to say, your grammer and spelling makes me want to puke. Which in turn lowers what ever credibility you had to start with (which wasn't much, read the Terms of Serivce, they say they WILL not provide info and have reason to ban you for anything at anytime, and that it is not YOUR account, it is theirs.)
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
actually, anyone playing this game for any amount of time, that has a brain, already knows that ccp cheats, and has always cheated for their friends.
anyone saying otherwise is an idiot, a liar, a fanboi, or, well, stupid beyond words. and that's based on ONLY the things ccp has admitted to over the years, which has been a lot for anyone in null sec, or following happenings in nullsec.
Glad to see that something awful has a presence here as well. I read this as a typical goon statement.
"Eve suckz! CCP cheatz!11!!!"
All the while you probably have 5 accounts and have been playing for 3 years.
thanks for proving my point.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I have yet to see any hard facts.
Oh, and your opinion doesn't count as a fact, nor does hearsay.
But hey, whatever. Who gives a rat's ***. I like the game.
i guess you don't follow what happens in eve then; in spite of your assertions that you play.
off the top of my head, items ccp has readily admitted to --
limiting the max number of players to a bobbite capshipyard system, but doing it after the bobbite forces had assembled and before hardly any enemies had appeared... yes, this was a while back, but it was something ccp readily 'fessed up to.
t20... MOST of K's accusations were admitted to by ccp, the rest were just ignored, so stupid people probably ignored all those other items, which held as much weight as the items to which ccp admitted.
that kenny alliance, that's been around for months... but ccp let them change their NON-OFFENSIVE name (allowing them to keep sovereignty AND revert back to a BOB name... which according to dianabolic -- we didn't want anyways), which they never let anyone change before... much less change it to a name with more characters than are allowed?
but hey, since you don't pay attention to anything in new eden, you wouldn't have noticed any of these items which ccp readily 'fessed up to...
and people make fun of the type of people who play wow.
please.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Your post doesn't make sense at all. I can't understand what you're saying. But anyway:
I do follow the things happening. It's just that I don't get all mushy about it, nor do I start crying (which is essentially what you're doing) that EvE players are idiots and that CCP are cheaters. CCP has screwed up occasionally, but that doesn't make EvE Online utter crap.
The way I see it, you're just a drama queen trying to shoot down everything about EvE Online (including it's playerbase, which makes me chuckle a bit, considering your arguments are purely about CCP---> as far as I can tell, obviously). Your tone and reference to WoW players emphasize this as well.
I respect your decision to NOT play EvE Online because of this (I mean....you DID stop playing, right?). I just wish people like you would respect MY decision to keep playing it despite CCP's screw-ups. Wishfull thinking? Yeah. I think I'd get more results trying to reason with Veldspar :P.
I hit the nail on the head, huh? You are a goon aren't you?
I'm not sure what your point is exactly? That a dev/gm/employee with access to a GM client "cheated?" Having worked in the industry for a long while I promise you that this occurs in every MMORPG.
CCP responded to this by instituting a whole department at the company to make sure this doesn't happen again. More than I can say for most other major MMO companies.
And T20 no longer works for CCP. He left about a year ago.
No he wasn't fired. Yes he would have been fired at most other MMO companies. Then again, most other MMO companies are in the United States and don't have to deal with EU employment regulations, which make it incredibly hard for a company to just fire an employee.
Yes, I realize, you're a goon. You hate CCP. You were probably ordered here to bash them on these forums by your alliance leaders. Then again, you and all your goon friends continue to play this shity game, developed by this shity company and most of you have multiple accounts.
What's the point? Like Althuser suggests when talking about ideology, what you say here is meaningless. What you do is everything. See this is how I know former SWG players really hate SOE and the NGE ... they no longer play. Goons on the other hand, they talk out their ***.
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
Figured as much.
I hit the nail on the head, huh? You are a goon aren't you?
I'm not sure what your point is exactly? That a dev/gm/employee with access to a GM client "cheated?" Having worked in the industry for a long while I promise you that this occurs in every MMORPG.
CCP responded to this by instituting a whole department at the company to make sure this doesn't happen again. More than I can say for most other major MMO companies.
And T20 no longer works for CCP. He left about a year ago.
No he wasn't fired. Yes he would have been fired at most other MMO companies. Then again, most other MMO companies are in the United States and don't have to deal with EU employment regulations, which make it incredibly hard for a company to just fire an employee.
Yes, I realize, you're a goon. You hate CCP. You were probably ordered here to bash them on these forums by your alliance leaders. Then again, you and all your goon friends continue to play this shity game, developed by this shity company and most of you have multiple accounts.
What's the point? Like Althuser suggests when talking about ideology, what you say here is meaningless. What you do is everything. See this is how I know former SWG players really hate SOE and the NGE ... they no longer play. Goons on the other hand, they talk out their ***.
hi, grats on figuring out really difficult things and completely mis-understanding/representing them. kudos on that!
grats on you trolls for "assuming" i'm a goon based upon my posting style, and NOT by my stating (in words like these), "hi, i'm a goon" -- about 15 or 20 times this past year alone. but good for making that assumption based upon how i post... which posting on THIS forum, i've probably been here longer and posted more than either of you with your (bad) trolling attempts. i've also defended the game against idiots whining about skill points and having no clue wtf they were talking about, much like other items...
now. you're actually arguing and disputing items which CCP themselves, have plainly admitted to; but, anyone should give any credence whatsoever to anything you say? so, in your own thinking, by denying items CCP has admitted to -- you are calling them liars and saying they've never done anything.
but hey, let's run with some of your silliness... in other games devs play and cheat. ok. now, to show that you are speaking logically -- how many of those games do the following:
1 have a single server
2 give real world value to ingame money by protecting isk-to-gtc transfers
3 have land/territory/etc that is conquerable and has resources to utilize.
i mean, you're going on about other games having devs and they cheat, and so it's no big deal - so, in that vein of thinking, if a ccp employee were to spawn say, a titan bpo and hand it out to a friend; then, that would have the same effect as a dev spawning a full set of the highest tier purple gear in wow for a friend, correct? otherwise, your comparison, logically, makes no damn sense.
but hey, good to know you were able to read and comprehend the SECTION where i mentioned t20 and COMPLETELY ignore the other items i mentioned. that's very much like how ccp employees do things... are you here to (badly) attempt to do viral marketing and damage control? i mean, i don't remember a whole lot of posts on this forum by you (or your little buddy) and you're totally attempting DC with misinformation...
go back to your masters and tell them that you failed. awfully.
oh, and by the by, there's probably about a 3rd of the goons that hate goons more than any of you pubbies ever possibly could understand. but whatever, the world needs its forrest gumps too.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Obviously he didn't. I've seen him here before, whining about POS changes while bashing eve. Its pretty clear to me that he DOES still play.
I even think I might know who he is based on his writing style and his name here. He resembles very much a CAOD goon forum whore from the eve-o forums.
Figured as much.
judging by your posting, you sound like you're a ccp apologist sent here by the mother-company to do damage control for the 50 people that read this forum!
good job at failing with that by ignoring factual information and going off on a memememe tangent.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
actually, anyone playing this game for any amount of time, that has a brain, already knows that ccp cheats, and has always cheated for their friends.
anyone saying otherwise is an idiot, a liar, a fanboi, or, well, stupid beyond words. and that's based on ONLY the things ccp has admitted to over the years, which has been a lot for anyone in null sec, or following happenings in nullsec.
Glad to see that something awful has a presence here as well. I read this as a typical goon statement.
"Eve suckz! CCP cheatz!11!!!"
All the while you probably have 5 accounts and have been playing for 3 years.
thanks for proving my point.
i find it incredibly sad, that people in today's age, ignore plain ole facts. not only ignore them, but argue like the people supporting the facts - are liars and/or stupid.
says a lot about people.
I have yet to see any hard facts.
Oh, and your opinion doesn't count as a fact, nor does hearsay.
But hey, whatever. Who gives a rat's ***. I like the game.
i guess you don't follow what happens in eve then; in spite of your assertions that you play.
off the top of my head, items ccp has readily admitted to --
limiting the max number of players to a bobbite capshipyard system, but doing it after the bobbite forces had assembled and before hardly any enemies had appeared... yes, this was a while back, but it was something ccp readily 'fessed up to.
t20... MOST of K's accusations were admitted to by ccp, the rest were just ignored, so stupid people probably ignored all those other items, which held as much weight as the items to which ccp admitted.
that kenny alliance, that's been around for months... but ccp let them change their NON-OFFENSIVE name (allowing them to keep sovereignty AND revert back to a BOB name... which according to dianabolic -- we didn't want anyways), which they never let anyone change before... much less change it to a name with more characters than are allowed?
but hey, since you don't pay attention to anything in new eden, you wouldn't have noticed any of these items which ccp readily 'fessed up to...
and people make fun of the type of people who play wow.
please.
hi, ccp employees posting here and posing as bad trolls -- this is the post to which i was referring, which you both seem to have not been able to dispute the factual accounts held therein.
if you did a LITTLE research on eve-search, or even this forum, you could pull up other items, to which CCP ADMITTED their wrong-doings.
but ya know, hey, CCP admitting to things must just be hear-say and opinions, not factual information.
what EXACT type of thinking/logic is that? forrest gump style?
seriously -- damage control failed. credibility - demolished. the 50+ readers of this forum -- not moved by lies.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Don't like CCP employees playing the game and potentially cheating then don't play it. It's not as though CCP as a whole is cheating to help BoB.
Have CCP employees cheated in the past ? Yes, most definitely.
Will it ever happen again ? It's possible.
Does this happen in other MMOs as well ? Yes, yes it does.
Why does Eve stick out in this regard ? Because Eve is a single shard game with so many people on it. Since everything has an effect some where in the game universe things like a cheating dev giving out blue prints is a much more noticeable than say a dev handing out a couple of high level items in other games.
I do not condone cheating by devs but at the same time I can't do anything about it really. CCP is open about their exployees playing and this as a whole for the game is great since the devs actually have hands on knowledge of the game (despite what some people like to think).
We do now have the CSM for dealing with issues like the ones decribed above and BoB having their name reverted back to Kenzoku is a sign that CCP will listen and do the right thing. The fact it got changed to BoB in the first place was a mistake but it was fixed. People do make mistakes and should be allowed to fix that mistake without being totally chastized for it.
CCP are not perfect and no devs out there are, but god damnit Eve is still the one game out there right now that has an actual soul. Everything else out there now is bland and generic with no feeling. (Darkfall looks like it could be interesting but I am waiting to see on that game for a while still).
Damian7, ignoring my replies and calling me a CCP employee really doesn't help your "cause". It does, however, help mine.
I'lle stop feeding your rant now. If you're not even going to bother reading what I (and others) have posted, there is no point in taking this any further.
Enjoy your puberty while it lasts. You'lle get the wake-up call very soon.
I would have banned you too, being you apparently bought isk (few people beg for proof that they bought it if they know they didn't, mainly becuase they were never caught for something they didn't do), then you were hostile, rude, aggressive and if your message back was anything like this post you sound like an asinine teenager.
I've found CCP rather nice with the customer service, they had no problem transferring thirty days of play from one of my accounts to another, even though there was 25 left (they took a while to get around to it). I've heard some nasty stuff about they're support, albeit very little.
In the end, please, stop whining, learn your lesson here. If you didn't do it, be calm, stay polite. If you did do it, faceplam, learn your lesson, don't complain, and don't do it again.
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re-read your replies -- all you did was slam and (poorly) troll me. you had nothing there to reply to, other than what i replied to...
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
well said... and just because (ingame) we can't do anything about ccp cheating, that doesn't mean we should silently take it.
i don't believe it was the CSMs that intervened in the recent name/sov incident. it was a general outrage by the playerbase.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
"CCP employees posting here and posing as bad trolls."
Honestly? WTF? The only bad troll here seems to be you. Talk about baseless and wild conjecture on your part. And you expect us to take you seriously?
I've been playing eve the better part of 3 years. I was there. I know all about it. The problem is that I've worked in the industry for a very long time. What happened at CCP isn't really different than what happens on a weekly basis at other game companies. CCP has been very open about what happened. They instituted an entire department to help fix the errors and stop them from happening in the future. The introduced the CSM program, allowing the player base to vote on people who go to Iceland, give input to the devs, and make sure stuff is cosher.
Now tell me, please, what other MMO company involves its player base like this at every level of design? I'll wait here while you scour the internet so that you discover that none do.
"seriously -- damage control failed. credibility - demolished. the 50+ readers of this forum -- not moved by lies."
Yet we should be moved by your trolling, by your baseless conjecture and by your emphatic gesturing. All while the Something Aweful community continues to pay CCP thousands and thousands of dollars every week to continue playing the game they bash.
Truth? Goon attempts to discredit CCP continue to fail. The game continues to grow despite your best efforts.
well said... and just because (ingame) we can't do anything about ccp cheating, that doesn't mean we should silently take it.
i don't believe it was the CSMs that intervened in the recent name/sov incident. it was a general outrage by the playerbase.
Lmao. I called you out and you didn't bother to respond. I guess I *DO* know who you are. I guess you *ARE* a goon (this was never really in doubt).
Good to know. You bitch and whine about a game company you probably pay $45 a month to or more. You call them, and their game crap. You make baseless and slanderous remarks about the company, the game and people who post here. All while completely ignoring those who show you for what you are.
Good form, sir. You live up to the goon troll credo.
Goons whining about cheating is hillarious.
They were exploiting the game from the start with 3rd party tools - and instead of banning all 2000ish of them CCP added the tool into the game (friendly/unfriendly in chat marker).
Goons together with the russians exploited the old server structure to crash nodes at will and thus getting their goals without fighting for it.
Goons whining is ironic and sad, but I guess it's fun to throw rocks when you live in a glasshouse.
re-read your replies -- all you did was slam and (poorly) troll me. you had nothing there to reply to, other than what i replied to...
Hahahahaha!
Wow! You guys are right! I should dump CCP right friggin NOW!! I'm gonna sink my money into SOE instead!! They have MUCH more integrity!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The op is a liar and a cheat. Screw the OP.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Yeah.... your right....
We should all be playing SOE games instead. An obviously much more honest company with the highest standards of impeccable integrity.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And where in my post did I even mention SOE?
They have some similar problems. So did Vanguard BEFORE SOE bought the joke of a game. A complete lack of responsablity from the devs. But more to the point, SOE doesn't have a SINGLE game worth paying monthly for. So they are hardly a valid comparrison.
EVE is simply not worth paying monthly for unless you are part of a side the Devs have taken to pandering to, or unless you are able to be blissfully ignorant of the conditions in the game.
And if you are, yeah you might as WELL play an SOE game. Or go spend some money on a collector's edition copy of Tabula Rasa. See where that gets you.
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They also don't play them thar vidya gaymes, mmorpg = most men online role play girls...even in ventrillo.
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Yeah.... your right....
We should all be playing SOE games instead. An obviously much more honest company with the highest standards of impeccable integrity.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And where in my post did I even mention SOE?
They have some similar problems. So did Vanguard BEFORE SOE bought the joke of a game. A complete lack of responsablity from the devs. But more to the point, SOE doesn't have a SINGLE game worth paying monthly for. So they are hardly a valid comparrison.
EVE is simply not worth paying monthly for unless you are part of a side the Devs have taken to pandering to, or unless you are able to be blissfully ignorant of the conditions in the game.
And if you are, yeah you might as WELL play an SOE game. Or go spend some money on a collector's edition copy of Tabula Rasa. See where that gets you.
OBVIOUSLY my sarcasm and point has gone COMPLETELY over your head. Here I'll make it simple for you...
Errr.. duh evil empire of duh CCP don't have duh mono... uh... monopo... uh, dey aren't de only oneses who doos dis!
SOE is wun of dah werstes at it, and a super duper grate exzampel of all duh udder comeponies who doo dis 2, so I wuz making duh funn of dah wimpering moronzes who are duh pew pewing about duh evil umpyre of da CCP. Ewe hafe obvio.. obvios.. uhh... less insight dan' dis posts grammerr.
Clearer for ya? Yeah... somehow I thought so.
Hahaha, this shit never gets old.
Never stop posting.
Hahaha, this shit never gets old.
Never stop posting.
Which part - the fact that you used a 3rd party tool to change the portraits or the node crashing?