OP you are a tad ignorant, they are not skirts, they are kilts. And would you say that the Highland Scots were/are "cross dressers"? /facepalm
Actually, i have to say that he is ignorant.
This has come up before with warhammer and the swordmasters "wearing dresses" from more than one poster.
I find it amazing that people jump to the conclusion that because, in a fantasy game, a man wears a garment that doesn't bind his legs, that it's "cross dressing" or wearing a dress.
Sumerian, Egyptian and even European armors have incorporated similar styles.
I mean, are we to say that whole cultures are cross dressers because of a utilitarian decision?
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I played for a while and it was fun, but I just couldn't keep playing knowing that in the end I would be forced to wear a skirt because of lore. Has this changed or is every male still cross-dressing?
Are you really that insecure about your sexuality?
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly.
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Back on topic.
Skirts aren't the only issue in AoC, they are the top of the iceberg. Even the ice cube is getting bigger.
Before WoW, players had many different clothes to choose from.
Since it became a grind for the epic set of the month.
If you ever opened WoW data files you'd find out with their engine different colors of the same clothes need different custom copies of the clothes. It means they don't die the clothes in game with alpha channels.
What most AoC players don't see is not only the clothes choice is limited but it got worse with PvP clothes.
Add to that the item stats that'll matter and you have a big issue in terms of character customization.
Many players don't mind grinding for top end gear but they don't want to look anymore like all others characters around. They want not only to be unique but to have a cool look.
They got a taste social clothing and dies. This is now becoming a standard, a baseline, a mandatory feature in AAA MMO.
You'd think that's enough? Not really they are now asking for things like 3 zones for dies.
I understand FunCom wants to stick to a graphical chart and it seems it goes with skirts for guys.
But when people keep complaining about that you might better do something about it.
In the end it's about making your customer happy before he goes shopping somewhere else.
Now I know why most of the characters running around are female lol ... oh nvm its the nudity. Having scottish roots, I have no problem with it- the skirts that is.
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before. if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
I am willing to look past the gayness of the skirt look due to lore, but not willing to accept a lvl 30 skirt that looks the same as a lvl 1 skirt with broken stats.
OP you are a tad ignorant, they are not skirts, they are kilts. And would you say that the Highland Scots were/are "cross dressers"? /facepalm
Actually, i have to say that he is ignorant.
This has come up before with warhammer and the swordmasters "wearing dresses" from more than one poster.
I find it amazing that people jump to the conclusion that because, in a fantasy game, a man wears a garment that doesn't bind his legs, that it's "cross dressing" or wearing a dress.
Sumerian, Egyptian and even European armors have incorporated similar styles.
I mean, are we to say that whole cultures are cross dressers because of a utilitarian decision?
Ok look, who really cares if cultures wear kilts or whatever. I admit that the term cross-dressing and including the concept entirely was a bad idea but this isn't what the thread is about. I asked if Funcom or whatever are still forcing AoC players to wear skirts, and apparently they are so I won't be playing AoC because I don't want my character to wear a skirt and I don't care if anyone disagrees with my point of view and what I want my character to look like.
Ok great, but you do understand that when you do add words like cross-dressing (there was another thread where the person used the word "dress" and also admitted it was probably the wrong way to go) that people who are familiar with older types of armor or clothing for war are going to look at you with a "that's the way it is".
I appreciate that you don't want to have a character that wears looser fitting clothing but I really do wonder if it is because you think it attributes feminine characteristics because you (and others) have expressed the same dislike.
So others, like myself, are not trying to say "hey... you need to learn about other cutlures" (because, heck, if you aren't interested you aren't interested) but "hey, other cultures did adopt this type of clothing and there is nothing feminine about it".
It's completely utilitarian.
I mean, if Mr. Crow can wear a such an outfit then it certainly should be ok for us to play a character who wears the same.
If we can't get behind gladiator movies, what CAN we get behind!
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im willing to look past the gayness of the skirt look due to lore, but not willing to accept a lvl 30 skirt that looks the same as a lvl 1 skirt with broken stats.
1. please stop confusing gay men with transvestites. being gay has nothing to do with wearing women's clothing, it has everything to do with being attracted to people of your own gender.
2. check back on AoC after the 1.05 patch comes out - when "itemization" begins in earnest. how much of the revamp will address the visual aspects of items vs. their stat boosts remains to be seen, but drastic change in that direction is on its way shortly.
I couldn't care less about the sexuality of the way cultures dress or whether the clothing is utilitarian. I also don't give a damn about how culturally or historically accurate the game is. As long as it's fun AND I like the way my character looks. For me the former is true however the latter is not because whatever my reasoning is, I don't like the way a loincloth, kilt, skirt or whatever name you want to give it looks. I don't want or need some random person to try to explain why I might not like my character wearing a skirt, I want a game that allows me to make my character look how I want him to look. Age of Conan doesn't provide what I want in a game so I won't play it. Simple.
Ok, great, no one is trying to change your mind but to add to it. No harm in that now is there?
But that does beg the question, why pick Age of Conan and complain about the clothing. Again, it's like playing a gladiator game but complaining about what the gladiators are wearing.
But I get where you are coming from. Example, I want my character to look heroic and interesting. So I don't play WoW as it's too cartoony for me to get into. I also stayed away from EQ II as much as one could as everthing looked like clay.
However, when playing those games, I knew what I was getting into and just accepted it for the brief time I was there.
If one is going to play a Conan game then I'm surprised they are not aware that it's all about loin cloths and open and pre-platemail clothing.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
So...I guess if they made an awesome mmo based on the times of Aincient Eygpt or The Roman Empire...you wouldn't play because you can't wear slacks?...um....ok....well hopefully Blizzards next mmo will be " World of Breechecraft" or Turbine might create " Lord of the Wranglers"....then you'll be all set.
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
If you bothered reading the stories, you would understand the reasoning behind it. The world is far from boring for an MMO, as the lore is much more rich and has more depth than nearly all IPs out in MMOs now. Complaining that the world is boring because of the clothing shows how little you understand about the world of Conan.
I must admit though...I initially had the same problem...despite being a Robert E Howard fan...and having knowledge of Hyborean lore....Then I remember how I hate most old "period" movies because everything is clean and un-used...e.g..."Mutiny on the Bounty " with Marlon Brando...great acting..but the ship...having been at sea for years..looked more like a Disney ride than a real british vessel. I realized that every thing would not look new and sharp ...if my character had been travelling the wilds of hyborea ..battling man and beast...for months at a time..with no bath. It seems most would rather have their male toon look like some sort of cross breed (sans the cross dressing) ...with the all bad assed-ness of Darth Vader ..only cooler looking armor (pants included) and clean sharp fashion style and good looks of a metro-sexual Samurai (or Ninja..take your pick).
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
If you bothered reading the stories, you would understand the reasoning behind it. The world is far from boring for an MMO, as the lore is much more rich and has more depth than nearly all IPs out in MMOs now. Complaining that the world is boring because of the clothing shows how little you understand about the world of Conan.
When you think about it, designing a game so that to enjoy it you have to have read a specific book first is just asking to fail. (Which is the direction the game was going before the change of management.) And to BarCrow if you mean that despite the fact that knowing that your character has been living in the wilderness and is dirty and has been fighting for years you still want him to look clean with wicked armor, that is pretty much what I'm looking for. I say screw accuracy if it means my character doesn't look good. See: the Final Fantasy series (and pretty much everything else that has come out of Square Enix). Pretty much every character from their games are supposed to be hardened veterans with the battle experience of a 4 star general, yet nobody cares that they aren't scarred and dirty because they look so damn cool.
FF characters look gay and FF is far from lookin cool.
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Nothing like a man wearing a skirt. OH YEAH!
I like cookies.
Actually, i have to say that he is ignorant.
This has come up before with warhammer and the swordmasters "wearing dresses" from more than one poster.
I find it amazing that people jump to the conclusion that because, in a fantasy game, a man wears a garment that doesn't bind his legs, that it's "cross dressing" or wearing a dress.
Sumerian, Egyptian and even European armors have incorporated similar styles.
I mean, are we to say that whole cultures are cross dressers because of a utilitarian decision?
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The game is set from lore 75 + years ago.
Are you really that insecure about your sexuality?
Not only do you still have to wear a skirt... all skirts are brown and ugly. This game fails for many reasons, not the least of which being the boring setting it is shackled with.
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Wanted to say I really like your sig pic
Back on topic.
Skirts aren't the only issue in AoC, they are the top of the iceberg. Even the ice cube is getting bigger.
Before WoW, players had many different clothes to choose from.
Since it became a grind for the epic set of the month.
If you ever opened WoW data files you'd find out with their engine different colors of the same clothes need different custom copies of the clothes. It means they don't die the clothes in game with alpha channels.
What most AoC players don't see is not only the clothes choice is limited but it got worse with PvP clothes.
Add to that the item stats that'll matter and you have a big issue in terms of character customization.
Many players don't mind grinding for top end gear but they don't want to look anymore like all others characters around. They want not only to be unique but to have a cool look.
They got a taste social clothing and dies. This is now becoming a standard, a baseline, a mandatory feature in AAA MMO.
You'd think that's enough? Not really they are now asking for things like 3 zones for dies.
I understand FunCom wants to stick to a graphical chart and it seems it goes with skirts for guys.
But when people keep complaining about that you might better do something about it.
In the end it's about making your customer happy before he goes shopping somewhere else.
the idea that anyone could have "problems" playing a male, game character who wears skirts / kilts is just the most hilarious thing i've heard today.
i truly want to thank everyone in this thread who helped me to laugh as hard as i am right now.
Now I know why most of the characters running around are female lol ... oh nvm its the nudity. Having scottish roots, I have no problem with it- the skirts that is.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
I am willing to look past the gayness of the skirt look due to lore, but not willing to accept a lvl 30 skirt that looks the same as a lvl 1 skirt with broken stats.
Actually, i have to say that he is ignorant.
This has come up before with warhammer and the swordmasters "wearing dresses" from more than one poster.
I find it amazing that people jump to the conclusion that because, in a fantasy game, a man wears a garment that doesn't bind his legs, that it's "cross dressing" or wearing a dress.
Sumerian, Egyptian and even European armors have incorporated similar styles.
I mean, are we to say that whole cultures are cross dressers because of a utilitarian decision?
Ok look, who really cares if cultures wear kilts or whatever. I admit that the term cross-dressing and including the concept entirely was a bad idea but this isn't what the thread is about. I asked if Funcom or whatever are still forcing AoC players to wear skirts, and apparently they are so I won't be playing AoC because I don't want my character to wear a skirt and I don't care if anyone disagrees with my point of view and what I want my character to look like.
Ok great, but you do understand that when you do add words like cross-dressing (there was another thread where the person used the word "dress" and also admitted it was probably the wrong way to go) that people who are familiar with older types of armor or clothing for war are going to look at you with a "that's the way it is".
I appreciate that you don't want to have a character that wears looser fitting clothing but I really do wonder if it is because you think it attributes feminine characteristics because you (and others) have expressed the same dislike.
So others, like myself, are not trying to say "hey... you need to learn about other cutlures" (because, heck, if you aren't interested you aren't interested) but "hey, other cultures did adopt this type of clothing and there is nothing feminine about it".
It's completely utilitarian.
I mean, if Mr. Crow can wear a such an outfit then it certainly should be ok for us to play a character who wears the same.
If we can't get behind gladiator movies, what CAN we get behind!
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
1. please stop confusing gay men with transvestites. being gay has nothing to do with wearing women's clothing, it has everything to do with being attracted to people of your own gender.
2. check back on AoC after the 1.05 patch comes out - when "itemization" begins in earnest. how much of the revamp will address the visual aspects of items vs. their stat boosts remains to be seen, but drastic change in that direction is on its way shortly.
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Do I read FunCom is about to make majors changes in terms of choices for the character customization without being tied to stats?
If so could you provide us a link please?
Ok, great, no one is trying to change your mind but to add to it. No harm in that now is there?
But that does beg the question, why pick Age of Conan and complain about the clothing. Again, it's like playing a gladiator game but complaining about what the gladiators are wearing.
But I get where you are coming from. Example, I want my character to look heroic and interesting. So I don't play WoW as it's too cartoony for me to get into. I also stayed away from EQ II as much as one could as everthing looked like clay.
However, when playing those games, I knew what I was getting into and just accepted it for the brief time I was there.
If one is going to play a Conan game then I'm surprised they are not aware that it's all about loin cloths and open and pre-platemail clothing.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
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So...I guess if they made an awesome mmo based on the times of Aincient Eygpt or The Roman Empire...you wouldn't play because you can't wear slacks?...um....ok....well hopefully Blizzards next mmo will be " World of Breechecraft" or Turbine might create " Lord of the Wranglers"....then you'll be all set.
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
If you bothered reading the stories, you would understand the reasoning behind it. The world is far from boring for an MMO, as the lore is much more rich and has more depth than nearly all IPs out in MMOs now. Complaining that the world is boring because of the clothing shows how little you understand about the world of Conan.
I must admit though...I initially had the same problem...despite being a Robert E Howard fan...and having knowledge of Hyborean lore....Then I remember how I hate most old "period" movies because everything is clean and un-used...e.g..."Mutiny on the Bounty " with Marlon Brando...great acting..but the ship...having been at sea for years..looked more like a Disney ride than a real british vessel. I realized that every thing would not look new and sharp ...if my character had been travelling the wilds of hyborea ..battling man and beast...for months at a time..with no bath. It seems most would rather have their male toon look like some sort of cross breed (sans the cross dressing) ...with the all bad assed-ness of Darth Vader ..only cooler looking armor (pants included) and clean sharp fashion style and good looks of a metro-sexual Samurai (or Ninja..take your pick).
i've never heard hyborea or any of howard's writings described as "boring" before.
if anything, the only reason i came back to AoC was FOR the setting. which is one of the few things they got half-right last may.
As a world to set an MMO in, it's pretty boring. Everyone wears the same brown sack. That just doesn't work well in a gear driven, level based MMO. The bad part is, you have to upgrade from a new looking brown sack to an old ripped blood-stained one.
If you bothered reading the stories, you would understand the reasoning behind it. The world is far from boring for an MMO, as the lore is much more rich and has more depth than nearly all IPs out in MMOs now. Complaining that the world is boring because of the clothing shows how little you understand about the world of Conan.
When you think about it, designing a game so that to enjoy it you have to have read a specific book first is just asking to fail. (Which is the direction the game was going before the change of management.) And to BarCrow if you mean that despite the fact that knowing that your character has been living in the wilderness and is dirty and has been fighting for years you still want him to look clean with wicked armor, that is pretty much what I'm looking for. I say screw accuracy if it means my character doesn't look good. See: the Final Fantasy series (and pretty much everything else that has come out of Square Enix). Pretty much every character from their games are supposed to be hardened veterans with the battle experience of a 4 star general, yet nobody cares that they aren't scarred and dirty because they look so damn cool.
FF characters look gay and FF is far from lookin cool.