In-Store Release?

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Does anyone know if Darkfall ever plans to do a proper release in which the company actually sells boxes in retail stores?

I'm not comfortable purchasing an MMO directly online, particularly one that has such a strange method of selling the game. It looks scamish to me, really. I'm not going to enter my credit card information without actually having the ability to own a copy of the game.

All of this seems extremly fishy to me, and given some of the threads and posts I've found about billing problems, I'm having Dark and Light flashbacks.

I would very much like to try Darkfall, but there's no way in hell I'm spending upwards of $50 for an MMO I can't even download and play right after purchasing. So again, does anyone have any inkling or information about an actual, official release? You know, one in which people are able to purchase the game immediately without having to wait for a magic period in time when the company decides to open its store?

Random_mage · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Does anyone know if Darkfall ever plans to do a proper release in which the company actually sells boxes in retail stores?
I'm not comfortable purchasing an MMO directly online, particularly one that has such a strange method of selling the game. It looks scamish to me, really. I'm not going to enter my credit card information without actually having the ability to own a copy of the game.
All of this seems extremly fishy to me, and given some of the threads and posts I've found about billing problems, I'm having Dark and Light flashbacks.
I would very much like to try Darkfall, but there's no way in hell I'm spending upwards of $50 for an MMO I can't even download and play right after purchasing. So again, does anyone have any inkling or information about an actual, official release? You know, one in which people are able to purchase the game immediately without having to wait for a magic period in time when the company decides to open its store?

If you are afraid of buying Darkfall online, they you won't be able to play. if anything, you could download it then subscribe when it's up. That's your best bet. I downloaded it a few weeks in advance before subscribing.

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Originally posted by Random_mage

If you are afraid of buying Darkfall online, they you won't be able to play. if anything, you could download it then subscribe when it's up. That's your best bet. I downloaded it a few weeks in advance before subscribing.

I'm honestly not interested in trying that hard to buy a game. If the company doesn't want to sell it to me, I'm not going to buy it. It's really that simple.

I don't have a problem buying games online. I've done it in the past and plan to do it in the future. However every time I've done it, the process has been straight forward and organized. The process to do it for Darkfall turns me off right away.

Looks to me like the company is trying very hard to shoot themelves in the proverbial foot, or has some aversion to making money.

jimmyman99 · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Originally posted by Random_mage

If you are afraid of buying Darkfall online, they you won't be able to play. if anything, you could download it then subscribe when it's up. That's your best bet. I downloaded it a few weeks in advance before subscribing.

I'm honestly not interested in trying that hard to buy a game. If the company doesn't want to sell it to me, I'm not going to buy it. It's really that simple.

I don't have a problem buying games online. I've done it in the past and plan to do it in the future. However every time I've done it, the process has been straight forward and organized. The process to do it for Darkfall turns me off right away.

Looks to me like the company is trying very hard to shoot themelves in the proverbial foot, or has some aversion to making money.

My sentiments exactly. Any MMO is a business, and business is supposed to bring income. Some of their decisions i can agree with or at least understand, but a lot of other decisions simply puzzle me, making me think they are either extremely unorganized or inexperienced (or both).

For example, their decision to limit their sales I can understand and appreciate - they try not to oversell because their infrastructure is not optimized for so many clients. They dont sell their game in store partially for the same reason - if the game is in store, they cannot directly control sales. If they produce 50K copies and it sells well, their server would be flooded with clients trying and failing (queues anyone?) to connect.

However, some other decisions are really weird or downright stupid IMO. Like, their website haven't been updated in a while. It still references beta information and is outdated for the most part. Well, I can barely let it slide, but I understand if some people don't - outdated website is the face of the company and is a fairly good indicator of some kind of internal problems if its not maintained/updated properly.

Their decision to "delete your character with a confusing or get banned" shocked me to the max. I've never seen such a low-blow towards their paying clients. Sure, the official reasoning kinda makes sense, they want to fight hackers (which, according to their Tasos is not really an issue) with names that are visually hard to read and report. But there are several ways they could of dealt with this problem. They chose the way that is easiest from technical standpoint, but punishes potentially legit and paying customers.

I could go on, but I think it would be an overkill. Plus, dont forget that some of the blind followers of this company will take my comment (and yours) and turn it into a hate argument. It doesn't really matter if we haven't mentioned the game directly. It doesn't matter if our concerns and comments refer to AV business practices, you and I will be labeled as trolls who hate DF, who are too carebear and need to go back to WoW.

There, I saved them haters a post. Im going back to WoW.

egotrip · April 2009

You mean actually releasing a boxed version or have the online shop open 24/7 so that people can actually buy the game anytime instead of waiting for the F5 lottery???

What kind of an absurd and irrational notion is that?!!?!?!

Kyleran · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Does anyone know if Darkfall ever plans to do a proper release in which the company actually sells boxes in retail stores?
I'm not comfortable purchasing an MMO directly online, particularly one that has such a strange method of selling the game. It looks scamish to me, really. I'm not going to enter my credit card information without actually having the ability to own a copy of the game.
All of this seems extremly fishy to me, and given some of the threads and posts I've found about billing problems, I'm having Dark and Light flashbacks.
I would very much like to try Darkfall, but there's no way in hell I'm spending upwards of $50 for an MMO I can't even download and play right after purchasing. So again, does anyone have any inkling or information about an actual, official release? You know, one in which people are able to purchase the game immediately without having to wait for a magic period in time when the company decides to open its store?

If buying DF is something you fear, then the game probably isn't really for you either. (Same concerns I have by the way).

But realized this, there are people who have managed to purchase the game, install and start playing it, and are having a great time.

No doubt, some folks got double billed (since corrected in almost every case I've heard of) and of course, you still have to win the lotto and try to get in at the proper time.

I'm waiting for a NA server and an easier purchasing model, but I doubt you'll ever find this game sitting on the shelves of your local retailer.

Random_mage · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Originally posted by Random_mage

If you are afraid of buying Darkfall online, they you won't be able to play. if anything, you could download it then subscribe when it's up. That's your best bet. I downloaded it a few weeks in advance before subscribing.

I'm honestly not interested in trying that hard to buy a game. If the company doesn't want to sell it to me, I'm not going to buy it. It's really that simple.

I don't have a problem buying games online. I've done it in the past and plan to do it in the future. However every time I've done it, the process has been straight forward and organized. The process to do it for Darkfall turns me off right away.

Looks to me like the company is trying very hard to shoot themelves in the proverbial foot, or has some aversion to making money.

Then don't buy it. It's that simple. this is the method AV has chosen for distribution for now. Simple - The store opens for an amount of time given on the site. You put your information in, in advance, then buy it when it's open. Pretty simple.

Sadly the server can't afford a mass influx of players, which is what's sure to happen with a mass release. And, then the server would lag and it would be impossible to play, thus causing people to leave in droves.

If you want to play Darkfall (which is why you posted this, correct?), then you're goign to have to go through the same crap that the rest of the players did.

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Originally posted by Kyleran

If buying DF is something you fear, then the game probably isn't really for you either. (Same concerns I have by the way).
But realized this, there are people who have managed to purchase the game, install and start playing it, and are having a great time.

It's not that I fear buying the game, it's that I'm not willing to plop down $50 without feeling like I'm wanted in the game. Add to it that the company isn't exactly well-known as a paragon of vitrue and kept promises, and I'm even wearier.

I do realize that there are people who have managed to purchase and play the game and are enjoying themelves. Good for them. The same can be said for every MMO out there.

There are also plenty of people who have quit the game and posted some very pointed and disgusted impressions of the game. Again, you'll find that in almost every MMO.

I've bought too many and been disappointed by too many MMOs to take any more financial risks with them. If and when the Darkfall developers decide to do a proper release and show that they are serious about maintaining and developing their MMO, I'll give the game a try.

Most likely I'll wait for a free trial, assuming they ever decide to make such a thing. However from where I sit, this game looks like it will be F2P in the near future.

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Originally posted by Random_mage

Then don't buy it. It's that simple. this is the method AV has chosen for distribution for now. Simple - The store opens for an amount of time given on the site. You put your information in, in advance, then buy it when it's open. Pretty simple.
Sadly the server can't afford a mass influx of players, which is what's sure to happen with a mass release. And, then the server would lag and it would be impossible to play, thus causing people to leave in droves.
If you want to play Darkfall (which is why you posted this, correct?), then you're goign to have to go through the same crap that the rest of the players did.

Then I'm not going to buy it. It's that simple. And you know what? A lot of people aren't going to buy it, not the least of reasons being the number of hoops and leaps of faith in AV you have to make in order to purchase and then be permitted to play. And no, it's not simple at all. It's like an experiment in the foolishness that consumers will tolerate.

Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about AV's server problems or whatever paltry excuse they give as to why they can't handle a massive influx of players. What the hell use is a massive game if it can't support a massive amount of people?

I want to play Darkfall, but not in its current subscription format. For $50 I expect a box, a hardcopy of the game, and a manual. And that's at a minimum.

Again, this is an insane way to do business. And I thought SOE was bad. Sheesh...

Kyleran · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Originally posted by Kyleran

If buying DF is something you fear, then the game probably isn't really for you either. (Same concerns I have by the way).
But realized this, there are people who have managed to purchase the game, install and start playing it, and are having a great time.

It's not that I fear buying the game, it's that I'm not willing to plop down $50 without feeling like I'm wanted in the game. Add to it that the company isn't exactly well-known as a paragon of vitrue and kept promises, and I'm even wearier.

I do realize that there are people who have managed to purchase and play the game and are enjoying themelves. Good for them. The same can be said for every MMO out there.

There are also plenty of people who have quit the game and posted some very pointed and disgusted impressions of the game. Again, you'll find that in almost every MMO.

I've bought too many and been disappointed by too many MMOs to take any more financial risks with them. If and when the Darkfall developers decide to do a proper release and show that they are serious about maintaining and developing their MMO, I'll give the game a try.

Most likely I'll wait for a free trial, assuming they ever decide to make such a thing. However from where I sit, this game looks like it will be F2P in the near future.

I'm taking the same approach actually, not so much about the cost (its a pittance in the scheme of the universe) but just because I don't go out of my way to purchase things. (yes, I'm a bit lazy)

Runes of Magic almost tested the limites of my patience when signing up for that game, because I had to register a couple of times and the instructions weren't the clearest. Also had to do a Google search to find the 'real' installation instructions and download my client in 5 parts from some site in Australia because the official download site kept throwing up errors after completion.

But I digress. Right now, I want things to be a lot more simple from Aventurine, DF, I want a new NA server, and one more thing, I'm not paying more than 14.99 USD. Don't care what the exchange rate is, I pay in dollars and if they don't want my money at a fair price, well, I can still keep playing EVE/ROM.

Flarinstar · April 2009

Daed, get a real job who cares about $50. If your too worried about risking $50, odds are you should be doing something more productive with your time than playing MMO's. Second, Aveturine does not want you and no they are not trying to please you. The company designed their game and every aspect off stuff that THEY would want, not what you want. So if you don't like it you do not belong.

And for the record I don't even play Darkfall this is all just commeon sense.

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Daed, get a real job who cares about $50. If your too worried about risking $50, odds are you should be doing something more productive with your time than playing MMO's. Second, Aveturine does not want you and no they are not trying to please you. The company designed their game and every aspect off stuff that THEY would want, not what you want. So if you don't like it you do not belong.
And for the record I don't even play Darkfall this is all just commeon sense.

I can afford the game, thank you very much. I'm just not keen to throw my money down the drain again, like I have for WAR, AoC, and others. Is that really so hard to understand?

Common sense is that when you are in business, you want to make money, so you try to make that process as painless as possible. Designing a game or any product to fit a certain demographic is one thing, but if you make people go to all sorts of trouble, particularly when you don't have any past credibility, just to make the purchase, you're a fool, and you will soon be a poor fool. Literally.

Clearly you have never worked in the public service industry nor in any job where customer satisfaction was of any real concern.

Of course, the whole point of your post was to be personally insulting, which is pretty pointless. Odds are, you're just some stupid college liberal trying to be a big man on the internet to make yourself feel better about the latest police bust on your pot parties. In which case, I'm not the only one who could be better spending his time.

Flarinstar · April 2009

Haha dude you are missing the entire point. Aveturine's entire business plan and model revolve around pleasing themselves not us. They originally designed the game for a very small customer base of a few thousand like minded people like themselves. That fact makes all of your points null and void. They are not trying to be Blizzard they dont need to make the game easy to get cause they don't care about reaching a large audience of worthy consumers such as yourself. They just want a couple thousand hardcore people that wan't to chop each other's heads off and will do what ever it takes to get the game and do so.

Daedalus732 · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Haha dude you are missing the entire point. Aveturine's entire business plan and model revolve around pleasing themselves not us.

In what world does a business plan like that produce viable results?

If that's really true, then my atitude towards Darkfall players themselves would be one of total disdain and disgust for buying into something so anti-consumer.

It should be a priviledge for the developers to have subscribers, not the other way around.

egotrip · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Dude are you stupid? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESULTS! There are people in the world who do things just for shear enjoyment and accomplishment rather than for profit. The developers of Darkfall were hardcore UO fans and they love games. They wanted to recreate the magic that they once felt. They were recreating it for themselves and like minded people. They did not make darkfall to make profit, if that was the case they would not create such a niche game. Thus, their business plan does not have to be viable nor profitable. Moron

Then why not simply make it free to play with a cash shop attached to it ??

gruminator · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Dude are you stupid? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESULTS! There are people in the world who do things just for shear enjoyment and accomplishment rather than for profit. The developers of Darkfall were hardcore UO fans and they love games. They wanted to recreate the magic that they once felt. They were recreating it for themselves and like minded people. They did not make darkfall to make profit, if that was the case they would not create such a niche game. Thus, their business plan does not have to be viable nor profitable. Moron

im sorry to ask you this question.

but are you that stupid you belive that crap?

if you dont care for results and just want to have a good time, you buy some beer, some pot or what ever, you bloody DONT uses 10 miilion euros (or what ever this game have cost to produce) of other peoples money.

IF you use that much money on something (and have convinced someone to sponsor you) you really DO care for results and profit.

anyone, and i mean ANYONE that belives anything else has been dropped way to much as a baby.

daarco · April 2009

Originally posted by gruminator

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Dude are you stupid? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESULTS! There are people in the world who do things just for shear enjoyment and accomplishment rather than for profit. The developers of Darkfall were hardcore UO fans and they love games. They wanted to recreate the magic that they once felt. They were recreating it for themselves and like minded people. They did not make darkfall to make profit, if that was the case they would not create such a niche game. Thus, their business plan does not have to be viable nor profitable. Moron

im sorry to ask you this question.

but are you that stupid you belive that crap?

if you dont care for results and just want to have a good time, you buy some beer, some pot or what ever, you bloody DONT uses 10 miilion euros (or what ever this game have cost to produce) of other peoples money.

IF you use that much money on something (and have convinced someone to sponsor you) you really DO care for results and profit.

anyone, and i mean ANYONE that belives anything else has been dropped way to much as a baby.

But why wont they make money then?

I just ask because i agree with you. But they still refuse to make money. What is thier plan? Its agenst all common sense. Is this some weird beta, and soon they will say "so long suckers" to us and moves to China? We have no idea.

bmdevine · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Originally posted by Random_mage

Then don't buy it. It's that simple. this is the method AV has chosen for distribution for now. Simple - The store opens for an amount of time given on the site. You put your information in, in advance, then buy it when it's open. Pretty simple.
Sadly the server can't afford a mass influx of players, which is what's sure to happen with a mass release. And, then the server would lag and it would be impossible to play, thus causing people to leave in droves.
If you want to play Darkfall (which is why you posted this, correct?), then you're goign to have to go through the same crap that the rest of the players did.

Then I'm not going to buy it. It's that simple. And you know what? A lot of people aren't going to buy it, not the least of reasons being the number of hoops and leaps of faith in AV you have to make in order to purchase and then be permitted to play. And no, it's not simple at all. It's like an experiment in the foolishness that consumers will tolerate.

Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about AV's server problems or whatever paltry excuse they give as to why they can't handle a massive influx of players. What the hell use is a massive game if it can't support a massive amount of people?

I want to play Darkfall, but not in its current subscription format. For $50 I expect a box, a hardcopy of the game, and a manual. And that's at a minimum.

Again, this is an insane way to do business. And I thought SOE was bad. Sheesh...

I have to agree with what people say about Aventurine and their kooky antics, but I really have to ask - who keeps a cd/dvd, box, and manual anymore? They're more clutter than anything. If a manual is necessary, a pdf works just fine for me. MMOs tend to change over time, though, so manuals can get outdated quickly.

Random_mage · April 2009

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Originally posted by Random_mage

Then don't buy it. It's that simple. this is the method AV has chosen for distribution for now. Simple - The store opens for an amount of time given on the site. You put your information in, in advance, then buy it when it's open. Pretty simple.
Sadly the server can't afford a mass influx of players, which is what's sure to happen with a mass release. And, then the server would lag and it would be impossible to play, thus causing people to leave in droves.
If you want to play Darkfall (which is why you posted this, correct?), then you're goign to have to go through the same crap that the rest of the players did.

Then I'm not going to buy it. It's that simple. And you know what? A lot of people aren't going to buy it, not the least of reasons being the number of hoops and leaps of faith in AV you have to make in order to purchase and then be permitted to play. And no, it's not simple at all. It's like an experiment in the foolishness that consumers will tolerate.

Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about AV's server problems or whatever paltry excuse they give as to why they can't handle a massive influx of players. What the hell use is a massive game if it can't support a massive amount of people?

I want to play Darkfall, but not in its current subscription format. For $50 I expect a box, a hardcopy of the game, and a manual. And that's at a minimum.

Again, this is an insane way to do business. And I thought SOE was bad. Sheesh...

Wow.. for someone who doesn't want to buy it, you sure are throwing a fucking fit. Grow up. You can't play darkfall because you don't like the way they do business. Move on and quit bitching. I've never seen someone whine so much and make excuses for their piss poor attitude.

If a lot of people buy it.. then they do. But it does not affect you one way or the other.. Move on. There are a lot of other things to worry about, your ability to buy a video game.. shouldn't be something you should spend more then 2 minutes on.

gruminator · April 2009

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by gruminator

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Dude are you stupid? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESULTS! There are people in the world who do things just for shear enjoyment and accomplishment rather than for profit. The developers of Darkfall were hardcore UO fans and they love games. They wanted to recreate the magic that they once felt. They were recreating it for themselves and like minded people. They did not make darkfall to make profit, if that was the case they would not create such a niche game. Thus, their business plan does not have to be viable nor profitable. Moron

im sorry to ask you this question.

but are you that stupid you belive that crap?

if you dont care for results and just want to have a good time, you buy some beer, some pot or what ever, you bloody DONT uses 10 miilion euros (or what ever this game have cost to produce) of other peoples money.

IF you use that much money on something (and have convinced someone to sponsor you) you really DO care for results and profit.

anyone, and i mean ANYONE that belives anything else has been dropped way to much as a baby.

But why wont they make money then?

I just ask because i agree with you. But they still refuse to make money. What is thier plan? Its agenst all common sense. Is this some weird beta, and soon they will say "so long suckers" to us and moves to China? We have no idea.

noone knows

maybe they are trying to earn money for a new server, maybe they are just trying to earn enough money to pay all the nice bankers outside their door.

and we agree, noone knows anything, AV have set a new (dis)order for buisness practice.

i hope the game will survive, it could be a really great game with the right people controlling it.

but i do not hope AV will survive. if they are getting away with this, what will the next new low be?

Wharg0ul · April 2009

Problem is, some are looking at this from the "spoiled american consumer" perspective...where they think that they are "owed" something, and that every company must cater to their needs.

Darkfall doesn't work that way. You have to WANT IT. If you're not willing to fight to play the game, then you won't last an hour in the game itself.

AV isn't trying to get rich off this. They aren't trying to attract every disgruntled ex-WoW player, and they sure as HELL don't want a bunch of whiners. They made a game, for the sake of the game, and for those who understand the kind of game they made.

Darkfall is what it is. If you're not willing to go for it, then you wouldn't like it anyway.

gruminator · April 2009

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Problem is, some are looking at this from the "spoiled american consumer" perspective...where they think that they are "owed" something, and that every company must cater to their needs.
Darkfall doesn't work that way. You have to WANT IT. If you're not willing to fight to play the game, then you won't last an hour in the game itself.
AV isn't trying to get rich off this. They aren't trying to attract every disgruntled ex-WoW player, and they sure as HELL don't want a bunch of whiners. They made a game, for the sake of the game, and for those who understand the kind of game they made.
Darkfall is what it is. If you're not willing to go for it, then you wouldn't like it anyway.

unless one of the AV guys is filthy rich and have sponsored the entire show i would say i disagree with you 100%.

they have had the idea of a game, they have convinced people to put money into that idea

(and people who do that dont do it because it sounds fun, they do it because they have been convinced there are money to make)

please stop trying to glorify AV, they are NOT saints.

they are in it for the money like every other company making mmo´s.

jimmyman99 · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Haha dude you are missing the entire point. Aveturine's entire business plan and model revolve around pleasing themselves not us. They originally designed the game for a very small customer base of a few thousand like minded people like themselves. That fact makes all of your points null and void. They are not trying to be Blizzard they dont need to make the game easy to get cause they don't care about reaching a large audience of worthy consumers such as yourself. They just want a couple thousand hardcore people that wan't to chop each other's heads off and will do what ever it takes to get the game and do so.

So what you are saying is: if for example you work for some company and you receive 10$ per hour, one day they come up and tell you "Hey, you work hard and well, we want to give you a raise to 15$ per hour with no additional responsibilities", you answer "No thank you" ? I don't think AV is THAT stupid.

Random_mage · April 2009

Originally posted by gruminator

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Problem is, some are looking at this from the "spoiled american consumer" perspective...where they think that they are "owed" something, and that every company must cater to their needs.
Darkfall doesn't work that way. You have to WANT IT. If you're not willing to fight to play the game, then you won't last an hour in the game itself.
AV isn't trying to get rich off this. They aren't trying to attract every disgruntled ex-WoW player, and they sure as HELL don't want a bunch of whiners. They made a game, for the sake of the game, and for those who understand the kind of game they made.
Darkfall is what it is. If you're not willing to go for it, then you wouldn't like it anyway.

unless one of the AV guys is filthy rich and have sponsored the entire show i would say i disagree with you 100%.

they have had the idea of a game, they have convinced people to put money into that idea

(and people who do that dont do it because it sounds fun, they do it because they have been convinced there are money to make)

please stop trying to glorify AV, they are NOT saints.

they are in it for the money like every other company making mmo´s.

You are right.

They are in it for the money. No one creates a for profit company that isn't in it for the cash.

They way of handling it.. on the other hand.. is hightly questionable.

But.. guess what.. I'm playing the game, and having fun. So, I don't care.

WSIMike · April 2009

Originally posted by Flarinstar

Dude are you stupid? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESULTS! There are people in the world who do things just for shear enjoyment and accomplishment rather than for profit. The developers of Darkfall were hardcore UO fans and they love games. They wanted to recreate the magic that they once felt. They were recreating it for themselves and like minded people. They did not make darkfall to make profit, if that was the case they would not create such a niche game. Thus, their business plan does not have to be viable nor profitable. Moron

Is there an article or interview anywhere wherein Tasos or anyone else from AV says this themselves?

I can understand the idea of making a game like they themselves have played and miss... but the idea of a company spending 8 years and lots of invested money to make something "only for themselves and likeminded players" without the desire to actually run it as a legit business and make money back seems.. umm... a bit immature and truly out of touch with reality.

Not saying you aren't telling the truth... It's just one of those things I really have to hear from the horse's mouth, so to speak, to fully believe.

Cropper · April 2009

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Problem is, some are looking at this from the "spoiled american consumer" perspective...where they think that they are "owed" something, and that every company must cater to their needs.
Darkfall doesn't work that way. You have to WANT IT. If you're not willing to fight to play the game, then you won't last an hour in the game itself.
AV isn't trying to get rich off this. They aren't trying to attract every disgruntled ex-WoW player, and they sure as HELL don't want a bunch of whiners. They made a game, for the sake of the game, and for those who understand the kind of game they made.
Darkfall is what it is. If you're not willing to go for it, then you wouldn't like it anyway.

You also need to be wearing brass knuckles when you type in your billiing info otherwise you're not hardcore enough. I hope my sarcasm detector is just off today and you don't really by into this line of logic.

You cater to the American market because it's there, it has disposable income and it there's a part of it that wants to play the game.

Aventurine would gladly get rich. It would allow them to improve the game they love. It would allow them to feed themselves and their families while doing what they love. At the end of the day DF is a business, it cost them money, they have investors to contend with, they have banks and rent and everything else.

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Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

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Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV