yeah when I first saw aion I assumed alot, the graphics look very asian game style. after watching video is does look like a good game, not really my type of game but i'm sure it will be popular.
After Aion down load did not work I tryed perfect World.
After trying Runes of magic I was not too sure but then after seeing the way I could make my toon I may just make toons all day. And they have lots and lots of hair styles that do not look like a bad sim mod.
Thank you LynxJSA you did good.
Ready for WAR waaaaaaaaaaah Morkwovsmez (Warhammer beta) and Miragexv in many games including FFXI. Ming in (Betas:StarWars, GuildWars2, and most other betas)
Originally posted by Stradden "NCsoft's upcoming PvPvE MMO"
I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
Yeah they're going to change a lot of this for the NA release dude don't worry. Obviously you are going to get ganked if you go in at the minimum level. Do you not get ganked being the lowest level in other MMOS?......... But if you were a higher level you could PvP more for all of their keep seige content which is pretty robust and hardcore. There are big battles going on in the Abyss over a keep seige and there are huge central points to take over which will offer massive buffs to your side and will make the neutral NPCs on your side.
After Aion down load did not work I tryed perfect World. After trying Runes of magic I was not too sure but then after seeing the way I could make my toon I may just make toons all day. And they have lots and lots of hair styles that do not look like a bad sim mod.
Thank you LynxJSA you did good.
The fileplanet download didn't work for me either I think it's missing files. However I found another download and that works fine. Perfect World does not even compare to this game. :P
Originally posted by Stradden "NCsoft's upcoming PvPvE MMO"
I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
You're half right. There is little OPEN PVP in Aion, though there is some. At certain times at random points in the world, portals open to the other side where you are able to freely attack those of the opposite race (i.e., Asmo takes portal into Elyos world, runs around pwning people till he gets pwned, vice versa). The Abyss is where you will get ganked IF YOU GO IT ALONE. There's a reason for this; even though it's a PVP zone, it's not an Arena. There are quests to do, zones to take over, and the Balaur to face off against, it is designed to be done with a team. If you go in there alone, you may get a few people down, but the smartest people will venture into the Abyss with friends and guildmates, as it is supposed to be done.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, the Abyss Armor isn't PVP armor, it's just top tier armor; some of the best in the game. It's not specifically designed for pvpers in mind, those armor sets are designed the get the most out of the your class, which is why they are made available to both PVP and PVE'ers.
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lineage 2 had great features for its time, but it still was a horrible and painful game because of the grind. It doesn't matter how many features this game has, it is a korean grindfest at heart... I guess this is the p2p version of the korean grind fest, now with stuff to grind towards! (in f2p grindfests, you grind so you can grind some more)
Don't be an idiot, you obviously didn't try it. I did the Chinese Beta with english patch, and I never ONCE had to grind up to level 25 (When it ended), it was all quest, and high quality quest at that.
I was 50/50 on wether to try this title, but as of this review, I don't think I'm going to try it. Especially if what you wrote about the abyss is true. Seems like I'll have to forget about this and now wait for Terra Online. At least the video for the boss fight on Terra looks pretty epic, and it's a game for high end pc's. Can't wait to put my new pc together
Originally posted by Stradden "NCsoft's upcoming PvPvE MMO"
I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
You're half right. There is little OPEN PVP in Aion, though there is some. At certain times at random points in the world, portals open to the other side where you are able to freely attack those of the opposite race (i.e., Asmo takes portal into Elyos world, runs around pwning people till he gets pwned, vice versa). The Abyss is where you will get ganked IF YOU GO IT ALONE. There's a reason for this; even though it's a PVP zone, it's not an Arena. There are quests to do, zones to take over, and the Balaur to face off against, it is designed to be done with a team. If you go in there alone, you may get a few people down, but the smartest people will venture into the Abyss with friends and guildmates, as it is supposed to be done.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, the Abyss Armor isn't PVP armor, it's just top tier armor; some of the best in the game. It's not specifically designed for pvpers in mind, those armor sets are designed the get the most out of the your class, which is why they are made available to both PVP and PVE'ers.
I'm glad you mentioned the rifts.
The rifts :
Portals that reset every 2 hours and spawn randomly at one of the pre-designed places of areas like Eltnen(Elyos) and Moriheim(Asmodians).
Have fun hunting them down, if you want to go to Asmodae and try to kill Asmodians, or vice versa.
It's going to take you days before you know all the possible spawn points, which in a matter of fact lead to different level areas at their other end.
So, you might enter a rift that will take you to a 10 lvls lower place, or a 10 lvls higher place.
Thus, making AION's PvP content very annoyingly inaccessible. (unless ofc you like being ganked in the Abyss, which you can enter at anytime)
Want the cherry on top of the cake?
Here you go : The rifts are in their majority being camped by high levels. You spawn at the other side, take two steps and die.
It doesn't only happen when you go solo, but also with a group.
I did my best to hunt down rifts for a week, sometimes with a group, others solo.
My experience from it, urges me to warn everyone about this.
There's no satisfaction for me in ganking someone with a group of 25 people.
Its the only possible way i could figure out in order to gain Abyss points, to get the PvP armor.
And talking about the armors/weapons/accessories/consumables you can purchase with Abyss points :
You get Abyss points by killing the enemy race, which is called PvP.
Anything you get through the process of gaining points by PvPing, is called -naturally- PvP gear.
Abyss mobs giving Abyss points is a joke if you ask me, farmers do not deserve the best armor around.
I don't mind the Abyss points you get from the infiltration quests, because they require you to kill people.
At least i got the chance to try the game out for less than what the monthly subscription will be when it hits EU/US.
I was given the chance to experience the game for myself and decide if its worth the money or not.
It will probably cost the usual 50 euros per box and 15 euros per month when it comes out in the english version, so if you ask me, this game is NOT worth that kind of money.
If i want PvE i can play WoW.
If i want Ganking i can go back to DarkFall.
You keep running in circles. You call it PVP gear then complain when you can get it through PVE, why is it so hard to comprehend that if this is the case, it is not strictly PVP gear? It would be more accurate to call it zone/reward gear. You get it through ABYSS points, not PVP points, and there are many ways to get points, in the Abyss. I'm not sure how you could possibly explain it further than that.
As for finding PVP unrewarding, that's a matter of opinion, but it's already been explained that Aion is not a PVP game. It's focus is on PVE, that has never been debated, the PVP aspect coming through that select section of the game. WoW is not the only PVE game available, I wish people would stop acting like it owns a patent on Quests or something.
Regardless, there are many people waiting for this game and with the friggin amazing success it has, it's really not worth trying to prove naysayers wrong. The game will speak for itself, and those who want to enjoy it will, and those who don't will miss out. Have fun with dated graphics/storyline (WoW) and the epitome of failure (Darkfall).
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Going back through my graphic MMO history, all the way back to Ultima Online at launch, a single game stands out of the pack. It stands out as being the only game I (and my wife, and my two closest real life gaming friends) unsubscribed from prior to the end of our free month.
From my Chinese retail experience, it is a little easier than Lineage 2.
Now, why did we cancel that game? We cancelled it because it had absurdly identical player characters, because it existed in a strange developer-less backwash of time, two steps removed from the real authors of the game, managed by translators and ill-equipped gms, because it was filled with bot farmers, griefers, and exploiters using mechanics that had been fixed or removed months earlier in the Korean release of the game but were being fixed on the same exact release schedule in North America (fixed is a misnomer, the fixes which existed were being translated), because the economy had prices in billions and trillions of coins after a few short levels, because the crafting - a skill central to an entire player-race - simply consisted of finding a special dropped item, unique to a single crafted item, raising the question of why bother to have crafting when it would be virtually the same to just drop the items....
Crafting wise, every player is able to pick up every main profession there is in the game. Higher end recipes are drops from random mobs (didnt change from lineage days)
Gathering professions are universal across the board.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that there are reasons why Linneage II is my personal worst-ever subscription MMO. People say it has an engaging plot line, but I wouldn't know. I got distracted by the swarms of level 4 guys one-shot slaughtering everyone with level 50 swords, the hordes of bots dominating hunting areas to the exclusion of anyone else, and the general lack of ability to actually play through a storyline.
Aion has botting issues, just like any MMO game from NCsoft thats never going to change. Players won't have a lv50 item however in this game. NCsoft actually made an effort in the main story line in Aion. There are 10 quests for each level in each zone that you go through as you level up. These are the main story line quests and the rewards gets better and better as you level up. There are also cinematics accompanied with the main story line quests to add to the engaging story line.
So, tell me: Does Aion have some of these same problems? How is Aion's economy? class balance? item system? Nowhere in this not-so-thinly veilled marketing blurb for the game did I notice any criticism. Does this mean Aion is perfect?
The economy still sucks, but its an improvement over lineage 2. Aion is a Lineage 2 redone at it's core, but there are significant improvement to make it easier to play and more accessible.
Aion isn't perfect, any game based on pvp has not succeed like wow; neither will Aion.
Fan boys will praise, I enjoy it cause its a none-wow game.
The clown farm isn't NC NA. It's NA Playerbase. If they can manage to play just one game without trying to illegally buy their way through it or annoy the crap out of other players for the fun of it, maybe it will do well in the NA/EU market.
Aion sounds like the worst possible game to have someone power level there character for money. It's only sad because you know there will be a bunch of fat bastards paying people over in another country to grind them to lvl 50 without them lifting a finger.. Reardless of the fact that aions deep story and engaging questline is important to the experience..
Sorry, but I refuse to buy into the hype. I'm not a "hater," but EVERY Korean MMO has the same flaws: they're grindfests, their stories/lore are always ridiculous and catered to emo teenagers,and their graphics are identical, with men always looking like women and women looking like supermodels. Sorry, but I pass on Aion.
Lol at ^
It's already widely known that it's not a grind. You may as well start calling Guild-wars the most difficult game to level up in while your at it.
Oh yea another fun fact. Guild-wars is a korean MMO and it's the carbon opposite of a grindfest and may very well be the fastest game to be able to max out in. Also, GW won multiple graphical awards for 2005 for how beautiful it was. And the warriors look like anything but super-models. You might not like guildwars, but it's just one of the examples that completely tears down your statement on your korean bias.
The clown farm isn't NC NA. It's NA Playerbase. If they can manage to play just one game without trying to illegally buy their way through it or annoy the crap out of other players for the fun of it, maybe it will do well in the NA/EU market.
Aion sounds like the worst possible game to have someone power level there character for money. It's only sad because you know there will be a bunch of fat bastards paying people over in another country to grind them to lvl 50 without them lifting a finger.. Reardless of the fact that aions deep story and engaging questline is important to the experience..
yeah the levelling and journey of 1-50 is so fun....why would anyone want to miss it out.
most asian based games that come over to the US fail, so i would not be suprised it this one does... plus it looks to flashy like im playing in fairy land or some shit
Guildwars did fine in america, and this is likely to take ALOT from the guildwars audience. It's almost assured that aion will do good in the US. Not neccesarily amazing, nor as well as over in the east. But it will do alright at the least. NC-soft is actually one of the few publishers that is very good at marketing into the west. Added to the fact that Aion is made with western audiences in mind and holds true to what all the publicity has been saying. Then it would almost seem strange for it not to do well.
most asian based games that come over to the US fail, so i would not be suprised it this one does... plus it looks to flashy like im playing in fairy land or some shit
Guildwars did fine in america, and this is likely to take ALOT from the guildwars audience. It's almost assured that aion will do good in the US. Not neccesarily amazing, nor as well as over in the east. But it will do alright at the least. NC-soft is actually one of the few publishers that is very good at marketing into the west. Added to the fact that Aion is made with western audiences in mind and holds true to what all the publicity has been saying. Then it would almost seem strange for it not to do well.
Guild wars is not asian it just published by ncsoft
Aion has botting issues, just like any MMO game from NCsoft thats never going to change. Players won't have a lv50 item however in this game. NCsoft actually made an effort in the main story line in Aion. There are 10 quests for each level in each zone that you go through as you level up. These are the main story line quests and the rewards gets better and better as you level up. There are also cinematics accompanied with the main story line quests to add to the engaging story line.
So, tell me: Does Aion have some of these same problems? How is Aion's economy? class balance? item system? Nowhere in this not-so-thinly veilled marketing blurb for the game did I notice any criticism. Does this mean Aion is perfect?
The economy still sucks, but its an improvement over lineage 2. Aion is a Lineage 2 redone at it's core, but there are significant improvement to make it easier to play and more accessible.
Aion isn't perfect, any game based on pvp has not succeed like wow; neither will Aion.
Fan boys will praise, I enjoy it cause its a none-wow game.
Thanks for the information. It looks like the artwork and visual design of the game is going to be stunning... but it sounds like many of the aspects of Linneage 2 that made it unplayable for me, especially the unavoidable presence of gold farming bot armies, are going to be all over this game.
You know, it dawns on me that Age of Conan has zero bot problem... I suspect it's because of the non-functional "follow" command. I'd trade auto-following for an absence of bots any day.
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yeah when I first saw aion I assumed alot, the graphics look very asian game style. after watching video is does look like a good game, not really my type of game but i'm sure it will be popular.
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After Aion down load did not work I tryed perfect World.
After trying Runes of magic I was not too sure but then after seeing the way I could make my toon I may just make toons all day. And they have lots and lots of hair styles that do not look like a bad sim mod.
Thank you LynxJSA you did good.
Ready for WAR waaaaaaaaaaah
Morkwovsmez (Warhammer beta) and Miragexv in many games including FFXI.
Ming in (Betas:StarWars, GuildWars2, and most other betas)
I can just hope that this game comes quickly this year, can't wait any longer!
Are you saying that you feel it is like Lineage 2? Are you saying her information is incorrect?
I'm saying neither.
It just feels like this person has been paid by NCSoft to write this article and we are all being taken for fools
I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
Yeah they're going to change a lot of this for the NA release dude don't worry. Obviously you are going to get ganked if you go in at the minimum level. Do you not get ganked being the lowest level in other MMOS?......... But if you were a higher level you could PvP more for all of their keep seige content which is pretty robust and hardcore. There are big battles going on in the Abyss over a keep seige and there are huge central points to take over which will offer massive buffs to your side and will make the neutral NPCs on your side.
the whole article is about character customization......zzzzzzzzzz
Which FF Character Are You?
Are you saying that you feel it is like Lineage 2? Are you saying her information is incorrect?
Are you upsad???
Which FF Character Are You?
The fileplanet download didn't work for me either I think it's missing files. However I found another download and that works fine. Perfect World does not even compare to this game. :P
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I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
You're half right. There is little OPEN PVP in Aion, though there is some. At certain times at random points in the world, portals open to the other side where you are able to freely attack those of the opposite race (i.e., Asmo takes portal into Elyos world, runs around pwning people till he gets pwned, vice versa). The Abyss is where you will get ganked IF YOU GO IT ALONE. There's a reason for this; even though it's a PVP zone, it's not an Arena. There are quests to do, zones to take over, and the Balaur to face off against, it is designed to be done with a team. If you go in there alone, you may get a few people down, but the smartest people will venture into the Abyss with friends and guildmates, as it is supposed to be done.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, the Abyss Armor isn't PVP armor, it's just top tier armor; some of the best in the game. It's not specifically designed for pvpers in mind, those armor sets are designed the get the most out of the your class, which is why they are made available to both PVP and PVE'ers.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Don't be an idiot, you obviously didn't try it. I did the Chinese Beta with english patch, and I never ONCE had to grind up to level 25 (When it ended), it was all quest, and high quality quest at that.
most asian based games that come over to the US fail, so i would not be suprised it this one does...
plus it looks to flashy like im playing in fairy land or some shit
http://acominos.evony.com <- if your bored at work
I was 50/50 on wether to try this title, but as of this review, I don't think I'm going to try it. Especially if what you wrote about the abyss is true. Seems like I'll have to forget about this and now wait for Terra Online. At least the video for the boss fight on Terra looks pretty epic, and it's a game for high end pc's. Can't wait to put my new pc together
I played this game for about 1 week and a half, on the Chinese retail, for about 100 hours.
Tried many classes if not all, highest level i reached was 28.
PvPvE is a deception.
It's more like PvEvP, or even better, PvE with a lot of Ganking.
Be advised, there is NO PvP in AION.
Sounds rediculous, i know, but its true and makes me sad.
The basic activity in AION is questing and in general PvE.
Then comes crafting which takes away too many hours per day, if you wish to actually make a profit.
And after all that comes the Gank, masked as "PvP".
The loading screens keep informing you with helpful tips, one of which says "The Abyss is open for all players after level 25".
Therefore you'd except you can do there and fight.
Wrong.
Expect to go there and PvE, since the mobs there give most drops and exp in the game, and here's come the best (worst idea ever) :
Abyss monsters give you PvP points, Abyss Points.
Which you can use as a currency to purchase, guess what, PvP armor - designed for those who want to fight.
So in other words, you don't have to PvP anyone, you can just farm mobs for your PvP armor.
Also, in the Abyss, expect to be Ganked a lot.
Expect 3 vs you, 10 vs you, etc etc.
Oh, expect them to outgear you and outlevel you as well.
And then comes the worst part, where you are forced to gank other people in order to kill someone.
I anticipated this game, i singed up on AionSource.com sometime in 2006, but playing it on a live server just made me hate it.
If you like level based, gear based, Ganking, this is the game for you.
You're half right. There is little OPEN PVP in Aion, though there is some. At certain times at random points in the world, portals open to the other side where you are able to freely attack those of the opposite race (i.e., Asmo takes portal into Elyos world, runs around pwning people till he gets pwned, vice versa). The Abyss is where you will get ganked IF YOU GO IT ALONE. There's a reason for this; even though it's a PVP zone, it's not an Arena. There are quests to do, zones to take over, and the Balaur to face off against, it is designed to be done with a team. If you go in there alone, you may get a few people down, but the smartest people will venture into the Abyss with friends and guildmates, as it is supposed to be done.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, the Abyss Armor isn't PVP armor, it's just top tier armor; some of the best in the game. It's not specifically designed for pvpers in mind, those armor sets are designed the get the most out of the your class, which is why they are made available to both PVP and PVE'ers.
I'm glad you mentioned the rifts.
The rifts :
Portals that reset every 2 hours and spawn randomly at one of the pre-designed places of areas like Eltnen(Elyos) and Moriheim(Asmodians).
Have fun hunting them down, if you want to go to Asmodae and try to kill Asmodians, or vice versa.
It's going to take you days before you know all the possible spawn points, which in a matter of fact lead to different level areas at their other end.
So, you might enter a rift that will take you to a 10 lvls lower place, or a 10 lvls higher place.
Thus, making AION's PvP content very annoyingly inaccessible. (unless ofc you like being ganked in the Abyss, which you can enter at anytime)
Want the cherry on top of the cake?
Here you go : The rifts are in their majority being camped by high levels. You spawn at the other side, take two steps and die.
It doesn't only happen when you go solo, but also with a group.
I did my best to hunt down rifts for a week, sometimes with a group, others solo.
My experience from it, urges me to warn everyone about this.
There's no satisfaction for me in ganking someone with a group of 25 people.
Its the only possible way i could figure out in order to gain Abyss points, to get the PvP armor.
And talking about the armors/weapons/accessories/consumables you can purchase with Abyss points :
You get Abyss points by killing the enemy race, which is called PvP.
Anything you get through the process of gaining points by PvPing, is called -naturally- PvP gear.
Abyss mobs giving Abyss points is a joke if you ask me, farmers do not deserve the best armor around.
I don't mind the Abyss points you get from the infiltration quests, because they require you to kill people.
At least i got the chance to try the game out for less than what the monthly subscription will be when it hits EU/US.
I was given the chance to experience the game for myself and decide if its worth the money or not.
It will probably cost the usual 50 euros per box and 15 euros per month when it comes out in the english version, so if you ask me, this game is NOT worth that kind of money.
If i want PvE i can play WoW.
If i want Ganking i can go back to DarkFall.
You keep running in circles. You call it PVP gear then complain when you can get it through PVE, why is it so hard to comprehend that if this is the case, it is not strictly PVP gear? It would be more accurate to call it zone/reward gear. You get it through ABYSS points, not PVP points, and there are many ways to get points, in the Abyss. I'm not sure how you could possibly explain it further than that.
As for finding PVP unrewarding, that's a matter of opinion, but it's already been explained that Aion is not a PVP game. It's focus is on PVE, that has never been debated, the PVP aspect coming through that select section of the game. WoW is not the only PVE game available, I wish people would stop acting like it owns a patent on Quests or something.
Regardless, there are many people waiting for this game and with the friggin amazing success it has, it's really not worth trying to prove naysayers wrong. The game will speak for itself, and those who want to enjoy it will, and those who don't will miss out. Have fun with dated graphics/storyline (WoW) and the epitome of failure (Darkfall).
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From my Chinese retail experience, it is a little easier than Lineage 2.
Crafting wise, every player is able to pick up every main profession there is in the game. Higher end recipes are drops from random mobs (didnt change from lineage days)
Gathering professions are universal across the board.
Aion has botting issues, just like any MMO game from NCsoft thats never going to change. Players won't have a lv50 item however in this game. NCsoft actually made an effort in the main story line in Aion. There are 10 quests for each level in each zone that you go through as you level up. These are the main story line quests and the rewards gets better and better as you level up. There are also cinematics accompanied with the main story line quests to add to the engaging story line.
The economy still sucks, but its an improvement over lineage 2. Aion is a Lineage 2 redone at it's core, but there are significant improvement to make it easier to play and more accessible.
Aion isn't perfect, any game based on pvp has not succeed like wow; neither will Aion.
Fan boys will praise, I enjoy it cause its a none-wow game.
Aion sounds like the worst possible game to have someone power level there character for money. It's only sad because you know there will be a bunch of fat bastards paying people over in another country to grind them to lvl 50 without them lifting a finger.. Reardless of the fact that aions deep story and engaging questline is important to the experience..
Lol at ^
It's already widely known that it's not a grind. You may as well start calling Guild-wars the most difficult game to level up in while your at it.
Oh yea another fun fact. Guild-wars is a korean MMO and it's the carbon opposite of a grindfest and may very well be the fastest game to be able to max out in. Also, GW won multiple graphical awards for 2005 for how beautiful it was. And the warriors look like anything but super-models. You might not like guildwars, but it's just one of the examples that completely tears down your statement on your korean bias.
Aion sounds like the worst possible game to have someone power level there character for money. It's only sad because you know there will be a bunch of fat bastards paying people over in another country to grind them to lvl 50 without them lifting a finger.. Reardless of the fact that aions deep story and engaging questline is important to the experience..
yeah the levelling and journey of 1-50 is so fun....why would anyone want to miss it out.
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Guildwars did fine in america, and this is likely to take ALOT from the guildwars audience. It's almost assured that aion will do good in the US. Not neccesarily amazing, nor as well as over in the east. But it will do alright at the least. NC-soft is actually one of the few publishers that is very good at marketing into the west. Added to the fact that Aion is made with western audiences in mind and holds true to what all the publicity has been saying. Then it would almost seem strange for it not to do well.
Guildwars did fine in america, and this is likely to take ALOT from the guildwars audience. It's almost assured that aion will do good in the US. Not neccesarily amazing, nor as well as over in the east. But it will do alright at the least. NC-soft is actually one of the few publishers that is very good at marketing into the west. Added to the fact that Aion is made with western audiences in mind and holds true to what all the publicity has been saying. Then it would almost seem strange for it not to do well.
Guild wars is not asian it just published by ncsoft
@denshing
anyway Lineage 1, Lineage 2 and FF11 are three very sucessful asian mmorpg in NA/EU.
We usually get the crap (like Silkroad,shayia ) of asia because they are cheap to buy and publish
they have allot of good games never released here. but L1,L2,FF11 are good example of quality asian mmorg...and now Aion
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The economy still sucks, but its an improvement over lineage 2. Aion is a Lineage 2 redone at it's core, but there are significant improvement to make it easier to play and more accessible.
Aion isn't perfect, any game based on pvp has not succeed like wow; neither will Aion.
Fan boys will praise, I enjoy it cause its a none-wow game.
Thanks for the information. It looks like the artwork and visual design of the game is going to be stunning... but it sounds like many of the aspects of Linneage 2 that made it unplayable for me, especially the unavoidable presence of gold farming bot armies, are going to be all over this game.
You know, it dawns on me that Age of Conan has zero bot problem... I suspect it's because of the non-functional "follow" command. I'd trade auto-following for an absence of bots any day.