the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.
Fanbois comments are getting shallower by the day.
Love how the same issues are always discussed on the forums, reviewed by players , reviewed by gaming sites, but according to the DF fanbois here, it's all lies and myths. Talk about being blind!
Can't wait for the next 'lying' review in this worldwide conspiracy against DF and Aventurine.
fanbois should be happy that at least the game got reviewed by other source and got 4/10. it would be a lie if the game gets a better score at this point. The best they can do I guess is continue to pay the monthly sub and hopefully the game improves.
Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied. Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't. What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around. I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions. As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
anyone intersted in RL hardcore sandbox ......goto a Slayer Concert and try to keep up with the crowd at the center while the band plays :P(if realy hardcore scream"IM EMO")
Seriously , all you ppl just let it be , all the DF review topics starting to smell like royal poo. All you "haters" just take a look at Tasos comments and sorry to say that his t. appearance ..be wise and leave those fanboyz who have found theyr playground in DFO ..in fact be glad they are playing it and not playing somewhere else
And to the fanboyz play ur game ..make once ina while a reality check and remember that youre actualy paying for the game(that hasnt even been officialy released ,,its still in some phase isnt it )and more important you invest time ---lifetime--wich is naturaly more valuable than some $$$ fee's.
anyone intersted in RL hardcore sandbox ......goto a Slayer Concert and try to keep up with the crowd at the center while the band plays :P(if realy hardcore scream"IM EMO") Seriously , all you ppl just let it be , all the DF review topics starting to smell like royal poo. All you "haters" just take a look at Tasos comments and sorry to say that his t. appearance ..be wise and leave those fanboyz who have found theyr playground in DFO ..in fact be glad they are playing it and not playing somewhere else And to the fanboyz play ur game ..make once ina while a reality check and remember that youre actualy paying for the game(that hasnt even been officialy released ,,its still in some phase isnt it )and more important you invest time ---lifetime--wich is naturaly more valuable than some $$$ fee's.
I fell asleep at a slayer concert. No joke.
Sexy little goth chick was sitting next to me. When I woke up she asked if I was sleeping; I told her ya, she got mad.
Apparently she'd been flirting with me for half an hour.
I guess it was to dark to see my eyes closed, and to loud to hear me snooring.
m8 was ment like a metaphor ...btw if you fall asleep at slayer (theyre still one of the loudest with motorhead and AC/DC live ) concert youd visit a hearing doctor
He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?
and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing. anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron.
you know those groovy background animations? like grass and trees blowing in the breeze? picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?
and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing. anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron.
you know those groovy background animations? like grass and trees blowing in the breeze? picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...
Yeah - what chat/social system? The chat system flat out sucks and, to the best of my knowledge, there's no social system (like an LFG page, for example).
Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied. Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't. What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around. I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions. As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.
Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.
LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also.
You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.
Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied. Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't. What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around. I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions. As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.
Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.
LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also.
You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.
Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
He said the game is complex, that means a retard can not play it. Also the skill grind and a lot of stuff got fixed with th patch, too bad he could not wait. This is another biased review, but someone who plays wow or warhammer and does not enjoy sandbox's. Plain and simple, CCP eve had bad reviews as well as SWG when they first started, SWG died due to much changing and Eve is still kicking.
A MMO is constantly changing so when should he review it? After release is as good time as any, ha can make a new one in a year or 2 if the game changed enough.
The reason Eve had bad reviews at start was that the gameplay was bad then. They fixed it now and most reviews are a lot better.
SWG however got scared since the reviews were bad and didn't fix all the problems but instead changed the whole game, but it is not really dead, it do have more players then DF currently even if it ain't is as big as it was before the change.
DF can succed the same way as Eve did, by fixing the problems and make the gameplay better. If you just pretend that the game is perfect and conitnue without trying to fix the bad things however it will be gone in a year.
Sticking your head in the sand wont work, the reviewrs have some points and if Avi realize that and start doing what CCP did the game might be as big as Eve in 2 years. If they do nothing or to little they might as well close down.
This game can still be a success but whining on the reviewers isn't the way of making that happens, look on how CCP fixed it. They did not cry when they got a bad review and I dont remember their fans posting personal pictures of a reviewer on this site (That was just the most creepy thing I ever seen here).
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
I find the opposite. I really am waiting for the two genre's two merge successfully, but thus far have seen nothing. I tried Planetside a couple years ago but even then the graphics seemed so dated I lost interest.
I don't think DF's combat cn even compare to some of the better multiplayer FPS out there (JO, BF2)....but then, online FPS has been going downhill in the last several years....nothing really interesting any more. Sure, BF2142 was entertaining for a little while, but after that I've been pressed to find one that interests me....COD4, COD5 both lacked for me. I'm waiting on Nova's next game. Maybe Huxley will be the one...who knows...but I digress.
If you find DFO PVP combat "exciting" you HAVE NOT played a good round in one of the better multiplayer FPS's. Prove me wrong. Name one that you have.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
Well see,
you just explained why the game is horrible.
If you have no idea how a good fps game plays, you wouldn't be able to understand why the combat in DFO is so bad.
The entire last part of your statement is a joke man.
Anyone that is into FPS games can't possibly think that DFO did it right.
Day of Defeat was made like 10 years ago and is CONSIDERABLY better FPS then DFO.
Then you've got games like Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty, Quake arena, Crysis, Team Fortress.
If you like the game that's cool, you can like a game and still be able to recognize it's flaws.
But you keep on preaching how Av got it right.
When MO comes out just do me a favor. Don't play it. Stay with DFO; even when the servers are shut down and Av is run out of Greece.
Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied. Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't. What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around. I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions. As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
Because Tasos said they lied and obviously Tasos would never lie about another person lying because he wants my money and....wait....oh shit.
I likely quit playing WoW before you did. Here is where you lie and claim you never played, never liked it, it or quit in beta...instead of simply saying it got old.
"carebear"?..is that running around with your 3 friends all decked out in gear, skills you macro'd against a wall for the past month(they changed that), killing naked new players at a Goblin camps 50 steps outside a newbie town?..ah no thats the "hardcore pvper" pffffff
Darkfall is ok..if you get in then try it you might like it despite its major flaws. If you don't get in before the upcoming MMO's like Mortal, Aion, etc are released..you didn't miss anything.
If you think this is a 7/10 then EVERY MMO besides this one you better give a 9/10...WoW a 10/10.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
Against my better judgement.
Ok, I'll bite.
Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it.
Would you still play it?
In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all.
Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work.
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
Against my better judgement.
Ok, I'll bite.
Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it.
Would you still play it?
In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all.
Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work.
Thats like playing tennis without a racket fun for 20 mins but msot people that are not mentally deficent get over it very quickly.
A game deserves a high grade when it good for a lot of people not 20k no lifers that roam the mmorpg forums and bash all games that have a lot of pve.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
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Fanbois comments are getting shallower by the day.
Love how the same issues are always discussed on the forums, reviewed by players , reviewed by gaming sites, but according to the DF fanbois here, it's all lies and myths. Talk about being blind!
Can't wait for the next 'lying' review in this worldwide conspiracy against DF and Aventurine.
fanbois should be happy that at least the game got reviewed by other source and got 4/10. it would be a lie if the game gets a better score at this point. The best they can do I guess is continue to pay the monthly sub and hopefully the game improves.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.
Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.
anyone intersted in RL hardcore sandbox ......goto a Slayer Concert and try to keep up with the crowd at the center while the band plays :P(if realy hardcore scream"IM EMO")
Seriously , all you ppl just let it be , all the DF review topics starting to smell like royal poo. All you "haters" just take a look at Tasos comments and sorry to say that his t. appearance ..be wise and leave those fanboyz who have found theyr playground in DFO ..in fact be glad they are playing it and not playing somewhere else
And to the fanboyz play ur game ..make once ina while a reality check and remember that youre actualy paying for the game(that hasnt even been officialy released ,,its still in some phase isnt it )and more important you invest time ---lifetime--wich is naturaly more valuable than some $$$ fee's.
I fell asleep at a slayer concert. No joke.
Sexy little goth chick was sitting next to me. When I woke up she asked if I was sleeping; I told her ya, she got mad.
Apparently she'd been flirting with me for half an hour.
I guess it was to dark to see my eyes closed, and to loud to hear me snooring.
m8 was ment like a metaphor ...btw if you fall asleep at slayer (theyre still one of the loudest with motorhead and AC/DC live ) concert youd visit a hearing doctor
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?
and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing. anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron.
you know those groovy background animations? like grass and trees blowing in the breeze? picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Yea. And here-in lies the rub. Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.
This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.
As an added edit. It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.
See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.
We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore. We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.
Re-read the review. The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic. This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying. The whole menu system is just badly designed. The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited. Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.
The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game. Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.
what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?
and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing. anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron.
you know those groovy background animations? like grass and trees blowing in the breeze? picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...
Yeah - what chat/social system? The chat system flat out sucks and, to the best of my knowledge, there's no social system (like an LFG page, for example).
~Ripper
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.
Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.
LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also.
You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.
Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.
Excuse me?
When was this addressed? When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review? What reviewers, and what reviews? I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review.
Maybe you didn't understand what I said.
If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.
Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.
LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also.
You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.
Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo
DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5 years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).
Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
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DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
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A MMO is constantly changing so when should he review it? After release is as good time as any, ha can make a new one in a year or 2 if the game changed enough.
The reason Eve had bad reviews at start was that the gameplay was bad then. They fixed it now and most reviews are a lot better.
SWG however got scared since the reviews were bad and didn't fix all the problems but instead changed the whole game, but it is not really dead, it do have more players then DF currently even if it ain't is as big as it was before the change.
DF can succed the same way as Eve did, by fixing the problems and make the gameplay better. If you just pretend that the game is perfect and conitnue without trying to fix the bad things however it will be gone in a year.
Sticking your head in the sand wont work, the reviewrs have some points and if Avi realize that and start doing what CCP did the game might be as big as Eve in 2 years. If they do nothing or to little they might as well close down.
This game can still be a success but whining on the reviewers isn't the way of making that happens, look on how CCP fixed it. They did not cry when they got a bad review and I dont remember their fans posting personal pictures of a reviewer on this site (That was just the most creepy thing I ever seen here).
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
I find the opposite. I really am waiting for the two genre's two merge successfully, but thus far have seen nothing. I tried Planetside a couple years ago but even then the graphics seemed so dated I lost interest.
I don't think DF's combat cn even compare to some of the better multiplayer FPS out there (JO, BF2)....but then, online FPS has been going downhill in the last several years....nothing really interesting any more. Sure, BF2142 was entertaining for a little while, but after that I've been pressed to find one that interests me....COD4, COD5 both lacked for me. I'm waiting on Nova's next game. Maybe Huxley will be the one...who knows...but I digress.
If you find DFO PVP combat "exciting" you HAVE NOT played a good round in one of the better multiplayer FPS's. Prove me wrong. Name one that you have.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game
A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game
Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is. And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.
B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.
Well see,
you just explained why the game is horrible.
If you have no idea how a good fps game plays, you wouldn't be able to understand why the combat in DFO is so bad.
The entire last part of your statement is a joke man.
Anyone that is into FPS games can't possibly think that DFO did it right.
Day of Defeat was made like 10 years ago and is CONSIDERABLY better FPS then DFO.
Then you've got games like Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty, Quake arena, Crysis, Team Fortress.
If you like the game that's cool, you can like a game and still be able to recognize it's flaws.
But you keep on preaching how Av got it right.
When MO comes out just do me a favor. Don't play it. Stay with DFO; even when the servers are shut down and Av is run out of Greece.
this poor game has taken a breating lately. must be because of warhammers:Onlines better RvR. oh well still a good game. 7/10
I'm confused.
Are you rating DF or WAR.
I read your other post on this site and you said you cancelled your WoW and Eve subs to wait on a sci-fi MMO in dev.
Are you playing DF?
Cause according to your other post you don't, or haven't.
Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?
Because Tasos said they lied and obviously Tasos would never lie about another person lying because he wants my money and....wait....oh shit.
LOL, what does Tacos have to say about this review? DF is finally getting the official bashing it deserves!
Sorry I actually like and play the game.
Anyone rating it higher then 5 is not honest.
I likely quit playing WoW before you did. Here is where you lie and claim you never played, never liked it, it or quit in beta...instead of simply saying it got old.
"carebear"?..is that running around with your 3 friends all decked out in gear, skills you macro'd against a wall for the past month(they changed that), killing naked new players at a Goblin camps 50 steps outside a newbie town?..ah no thats the "hardcore pvper" pffffff
Darkfall is ok..if you get in then try it you might like it despite its major flaws. If you don't get in before the upcoming MMO's like Mortal, Aion, etc are released..you didn't miss anything.
If you think this is a 7/10 then EVERY MMO besides this one you better give a 9/10...WoW a 10/10.
Excellent, post. Spot on.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
Against my better judgement.
Ok, I'll bite.
Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it.
Would you still play it?
In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all.
Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work.
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
Against my better judgement.
Ok, I'll bite.
Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it.
Would you still play it?
In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all.
Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work.
Thats like playing tennis without a racket fun for 20 mins but msot people that are not mentally deficent get over it very quickly.
A game deserves a high grade when it good for a lot of people not 20k no lifers that roam the mmorpg forums and bash all games that have a lot of pve.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.