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WOW Sales Ripping EQ2 A New One
nonjonron
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Looks like WOW sales are blasting EQ2 out of the water. That said, I'm still playing EQ2 on the Nek.. server and don't plan on moving. EQ2 works fine for me, although I wish there was PvP. Check out the article from Gamespot though:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/12/01/news_6114281.html
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Whoopty freakin' doo. No one cares. KTHXBYE
yup amazing eh... and btw, you will get the occasional moronic reply. sometimes a few. ignore them, the game wow btw is amazing yet at time frustrating to get into with lag and latency issues.
In time though, the issues will be addressed. as for eq2
i hate it, and really hate it.
also fanbois will attempt to roast you if you touch on their steak....see you in wow!
In my opinion WoW is the game that will take MMOG's to the general public. Im gonna bet they will get subscriptions into the millions within the first year.
"Blizzard's MMORPG becomes the fastest-selling PC game ever, selling 240,000 copies in 24 hours; total now tops 350,000 units."
That's news, no matter how you feel about WoW. Of course it's not a patch on Halo II's sales, but very good for a PC game. Even stomps The Sims.
It does make me realize how much smaller the PC market is tho'. We measure big games in the 100,000's while console games number in the millions.
I must be missing part of Sony's approach here though. When I look at the two games, aside from character customization, advanced graphics and class variety, no big advantage to EQ2. The PvP is the part that really has me scratching my head.
I see posters all of the time saying they don't want PvP. Lots of them say they won't even play a game with PvP in it. Yet here comes Blizzard with integrated PvP and just rocks the sales! Diablo had PvP, Diablo 2 had PvP and now WOW has PvP. Sony is not even giving us an option to Duel! Are you kidding?
I'm hoping Sony steps up to the plate here. Well integrated PvP is an important part of second generation MMORPG games. Blizzard didn't miss on that one. I think lots of players are taking well integrated PvP and easy accessiblity over costly accessibility and care bear. We shall see.
Blizzard's MMORPG becomes the fastest-selling PC game ever, selling 240,000 copies in 24 hours; total now tops 350,000 units.
Nice. [(350,000 * subscription fee) + (350,000 * hard copy selling price)] = a whole lot of money the first couple months.
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yea theyre making a killing... kinda sad though since it will just show the other devs that they dont really have to do anything new to be successful
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And I agree. While I just looked at this topic to see if there was any point (the original post is obviously useless) it did go down a road near and dear to my heart. Blizzard took all of what was working in other games, and put it together in a a very nice package. And guess what, it works. Good for them. I hope truly that EQ2 starts a PvP server.
Anyway, going back to the original post, and the first response, no kiddin who cares? Really the only thing these 2 games have in common is the fact that they are MMO's. People do not play EQ for PvP, they play because they like the EQ experience. I say this because thats the general impression I get from people I know in game.
I would hope, that people would play WoW for that reason as well, or maybe because they have followed the title for the past few years. At any rate why compare the 2? From what I know about the 2 games it's comparing apples and oranges.
Don't get me wrong, do what ya want, it's your time and and you can waste it however you want, I have just been curious about this topic since I first became aware of it. Who cares if WoW or EQ2 is selling better? I mean is it lining your pockets? Are you somehow tied into it's success? Again just asking I do not care if either games goes tits up or rules the finance world really. Well I kinda have some time invested in EQ2 so maybe a little butt sore over it going away, but I would get over it.
I may, as soon as I can quite all the MMO's I have going right now, buy WoW and use it for my PvP relief, and EQ for my relaxed gaming. I dunno.
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Agreed, great post.
I'm playing EQ2, mostly because I tried it first, not because I have anything against WoW (although if it was a Starcraft MMO I would have been there in a heartbeat!).
The good evil system in eq2 is ripe for the making of great PvP IMO. I guess we will see where it goes from here. For now I'm enjoying it a lot though.
Big-time game developers rarely innovate, as giving the game-buying public something new carries a risk that they won't like it.
Blizzard have built an empire out of taking the best out of a genre and refining it. This has worked in the past and it's worked again with WoW.
"Doing things new" is definitely not a surefire recipe for success, however much you might want it to be.
Just wonders, the topic isn't locked already and it has WOW and EQ2 in the topic
Oh well, an other pointless cry to compare those two. Not going to read the whole thread.
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And have you noticed that every single thread that compares WoW to EQ2 has several posts like yours that don't actually contribute to the discussion one iota?
Right. That and its a MMORPG.
Although you do have the case of the Lineage 1 & 2 games, with Lineage I believe peaking at 3 million accounts, and 2 at...1, 1.5 mill.
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The point is simple, and it's the same reason that not every car out there has to be a Chevrolet. Different people like different things. End of story. Many of you like PvP ... good for you. Enjoy yourself. Many of us do not like PvP .. or, at least, we don't like it in our MMORPGs. When I want to do PvP I don't sit and whine about what games doesn't have it ... I just go to a PvP game. That's exactly why I plan to buy Guildwars. The PvP is absolutely fun as hell there, although that's not a game I could spend the hours in that I put into EQ1/2.There are plenty of PvP games out there, so enjoy them. Just let others enjoy what they enjoy too.
As far as Sony missing anything, witness the subscription history of EQ1 ... of which, PvP has been a totally inconsequential part. 5.5 years later they still have over 400k subscriptions, so I don't think they're missing a thing. They are trying to satisfy a certain audience, and they seem to be pretty good at it. WOW appeals to a different audience. I've subscribed to EQ1 for 5.5 years now. At average 12.95/mo. that's $841.75. I also bought the game for $50, and seven expansions for roughly $30 each, for another $260. Total they's gotten from me just for EQ1 = $1101.75. And there are a LOT of people just like me. Yeah, poor Sony. They really need to wake up
In any event, I am betting that EQ2 *will* have PvP.
Now that my friend, is some extreme denaro.
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"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
WoW has non-PvP servers.
For people who don't like or want PvP, it's not a case of "EQ2 doesn't have PvP so that's the only choice" it's a question of "which game is more fun to play for the individual".
Yes, I agree, Lineage 1&2 numbers are rather amazing. But I do think that is a unique case. At one point I understood that 4% of the population of Korea was playing Lineage. And it's also the only situation I know of where game matters have filtered out of the game into the society - in a very undesirable way.
As crazy as Americans and Euros are about our games, Asians seem to leave us in the dust. At one point the government of Thailand imposed a late night internet curfew to try to control the excesses which I gather were going on there and were interfering with functioning of businesses and such.
In any event, the point remains the same. Different products are offered for different market segments, and that's the way it should be.
So out of curiosity culturally and nationally speaking, who leans more to what games, I noticed Korea for the Lineage games, does the same apply for EQ, EQ2, DAoC, AO, WoW?
How much of a mmorpg is made to target a certain nation, ie, North America, Asia, Europe?
Now don't get the wrong idea from this, but WoW with it's cartoony style and from what I've seen that a lot of kids and teens played Diablo 2, it was already known that more teens would be buying WoW instead of EQ2.
EQ2 sold well for adults, but since teens are the ones that buy the most video games worldwide, it's no surprise WoW beated EQ2 10 times over.
So add all the teens that bought WoW with all the adults that prefered WoW over EQ2... that's a lot of sales!!!
Now what I would like to see are statistics on which game has the more mature players, WoW or EQ2?
But since this thread is about WoW beating EQ2 in sales, I'll end my post here.
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I cant beleive they call them new games.Both have nothing new and have simply repackaged ideas from 5 years ago.
Both games are overhyped and are now the winners in the "Godzilla 2000's" of mmorpg's.
I previously gave SWG the reward in the category of overhyped and underproduced mmo.The ironic part is now SWG is not a bad game at all and is better than either one of the 2 games.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
You could say that about games of any genre.