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Need Help please :( EQ2 or WoW

RunselRunsel Member Posts: 2

Hello

Leaving Lineage2 and wanna start  long time playing new mmorpg , but i don't know what better WoW or EverQuest2 ? On this forum http://l2orphus.4t.com people telling that Wow better then Eq2 ! People from this forum gimme adwise.image

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  • ImperatorianImperatorian Member Posts: 1,000

    They're both excellent games. If you're a casual player thoroughly enjoying PvP, get WoW, if you're more of a hardcore loot gatherer that wants some interactivity in crafting and has a good PC, get EQ2.


    Don't listen to the people on that forum, most of em prolly havent even played EQ2. Then again, don't listen to me or any other people on this forum either, since it would most likely be biased advice. My suggestion is: go to a friend that has EQ2 and a friend that has WoW and ask if you can play for a few hours or so.

  • SaigonshakesSaigonshakes Member Posts: 937

    I was a big WoW fan at the start but the game seemed kinda empty to me. EQ2 has a much larger world and IMO, the community is alot easier to deal with. WoW seems like a really good game but only for a short time, while EQ2 has felt solid all the way so far. I have played both as well. And like Imperatorian said, they are both excellent games.

    I prefer EQ2 because I think it has alot more staying power. But, in the end, the decision is up to you. Eithier way you're getting a good game.

  • ZsavoozZsavooz Member Posts: 532
    I think the complete opposite. To me EQ2 seems small and linear whereas WOW seems limitless. I have played both and am sticking with WOW.

  • NegativeOneNegativeOne Member UncommonPosts: 4

    I am impressed to finally see people giving unbiased opinions on this topic. For me it is EQ2 but it is not to say WoW is not a good game. It is.... When it comes down to it, it is basically a difference in opinion and what you like in a game. EQ2 is more immersive and the community is great, which is what I prefer and i also am coming from Lineage II, so its not that i dont enjoy PvP or anything. WoW is better for casual gaming and if you enjoy PvP a lot. The graphics on EQ2 are stunning, but even though WoW graphics arent that impressive, what makes them work so well is that it feels like you are still playing a warcraft game... and im sure this is a plus if you are a huge warcraft fan. My advice would be to see both games get played from a friend or something... then make your own decision... Hope that helps in someway.

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  • Forrest798Forrest798 Member Posts: 20

    Just look at the numbers....image

     

  • SaigonshakesSaigonshakes Member Posts: 937

    I wouldn't say just look at the numbers. It really depends what style you like to play, and I belive that has already been discussed in this thread.

  • kulgan18kulgan18 Member Posts: 74

    WOW is like a colorful and enriched world.

    Eq2 is more like tolkienish realism.

    There will never be a settle on whats a better game, i mean its like saying vanilla or banana icecream, whats better?.

    I like wow, because its fun. image

  • firemagicfiremagic Member Posts: 878

    I'd recommend firstly reading all the reviews you can find, then buy both games anyway.

    The $50 you'll end up wasting on the one you don't like will have been worth it to have based your opinion on first-hand experience.

    I've tried both and EQ2 not only doesn't compare to WoW in my opinion, it's just a bad game period.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    edit so tired of these troll threads I am just going to quit bothering to visit these boards.. See ya

    I miss DAoC

  • firemagicfiremagic Member Posts: 878


    Originally posted by Jackdog
    edit so tired of these troll threads I am just going to quit bothering to visit these boards.. See ya

    Maybe you should complain to the person who made you read it.


  • TortimerTortimer Member UncommonPosts: 113
    I played the EQ2 beta for over 1 1/2 months and pre-ordered EQ2.  While I was waiting for my EQ2 pre-order I played the WoW OB just for something to do.  I had no thought of buying WoW because I'm a big EQ and EQOA(PS2) fan.  I liked WoW so much I sold my pre-order of EQ2 on EBAY and pre-ordered WoW.  I'm currently playing WoW and IMO it's the best MMORPG that I have ever  played.  I have played UO, EQ, AC, EQOA, CoH, EQ2 beta and many more beta and free trials. 
  • WickesWickes Member UncommonPosts: 749



    Originally posted by Jackdog

    edit so tired of these troll threads I am just going to quit bothering to visit these boards.. See ya



    Have to admit, I'm getting there myself.  Some of these people seriously need some help.

  • jd269jd269 Member Posts: 225

    If you like grinds, and delivery boy sims EQ2 is your game.

  • AltugAltug Member UncommonPosts: 24

    Very good question I was wondering too.

    EQ 2 looks to have much better graphics, but those who play tell of a game full of bugs. I played SWG for over a year, and I share the opinion about SOE games are full of bugs and they dont fix them. 'Soon' was the only answer from customer service when we asked when they will be fixed.

    Can those who play tell how the customer service works and how fast bugs get fixed in eq2? I only played a few days, and the only major bug so far I saw (or not saw I'd rather say) were invisible NPCs, but they fixed this bug now. But I am still newbie, didnt do much in the game. And some players over level 20 talk about broken quests, rewards unuseable, monsters turn invisible if the dungeon gets crowded etc.

    I wonder your opinions about how fast they solve the problems in eq2. Please no WOW flaming.

  • Lill-TrollLill-Troll Member Posts: 230



    Originally posted by Runsel

    Hello
    Leaving Lineage2 and wanna start  long time playing new mmorpg , but i don't know what better WoW or EverQuest2 ? On this forum http://l2orphus.4t.com people telling that Wow better then Eq2 ! People from this forum gimme adwise.image



    Both games has their Pros and Cons. WoW is excellent if you don't have the time to sit 12+ hours/day. You can have up to 50 Avatars (Max 10/server) and since most races have different starting Locations and quests the game will last you for quite some time even tho you level up pretty fast. Personally I prefer the "toony" graphics of WoW, and you can play with a pretty low-end PC/Mac.

    In EQ2 you basically need to find a Guilde or at least a group of friends to play with as it's VERY difficult to accomplich anything solo. In the end it's only your own playing style that decides which game is the better for you.

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925



    Originally posted by Forrest798

    Just look at the numbers....image
     



    Numbers means jack in this case.

    If numbers determined which mmorpg was best then lineage beats every single mmorpg including WoW with one hand tied behind its back with its over 2 million accounts.

    EQ2 will never sell as much as WoW.

    a)EQ is a known name within and only within the mmorpg circles.It is basically unknown to non mmorpg audience.While Warcraft is know not only within the mmrog circle but amongst a great majoirty of RPG community(don't confuse RPG to mean mmorpg community as mmorpg community is only a small portion of the overall RPG community)

    b)EQ2 with its high specs has basically eliminated many people from playing including all those using the most common Gcard in the market.And no the R9800pro or X800 or FX series are not the most common card in use.It is the MX series which is unplayable at all on EQ2.

    c)anti -SoE sentiments.

    So quoting numbers has jack to do with how good a game is .Lineage has 2 million accounts and wanna know why because its geared to the korean market.Most NA/europeans don't even like the game at all including me but clearly it appeals to Asians .

    But if based on numbers then lineage is by far the best mmorpg ever made.

    EQ2(and i said this over 4 months ago ) will never sell as much as WoW period because of the points i kept above.Note this 3 points has nothing to do with the actual gameplay or performance of the game at all.

    That said both are good games and both are filled to the brim.EQ2  has 24 english servers and 3 german/french servers  which are all on filled to heavy load now even the new ones so you will never be short of people to play with.Some servers are nearly always filled 24/7 like runneye.

    So picking either WoW or EQ2 u will never be short of ppl to play with as both sold incredibly well.

    Personally i say try both of them .Thats the only way you will ever know .

  • triptogntriptogn Member Posts: 18
    Both games are pretty good.  I would recommend either game personally, you can't really lose.  I think both games would do nicely in anyones game library, despite all the arguments coming from players.  I already have EQ2 and am enjoying myself, and will pick up Wow in the next couple of weeks probably.

  • DuckyDucky Member Posts: 413

    EQ2 vs WoW here we go again, EQ2 long term, WoW Short term :) and i give both games 9.5 ;)

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  • KunarickKunarick Member UncommonPosts: 348



    Originally posted by Altug

    Very good question I was wondering too.
    EQ 2 looks to have much better graphics, but those who play tell of a game full of bugs. I played SWG for over a year, and I share the opinion about SOE games are full of bugs and they dont fix them. 'Soon' was the only answer from customer service when we asked when they will be fixed.
    Can those who play tell how the customer service works and how fast bugs get fixed in eq2? I only played a few days, and the only major bug so far I saw (or not saw I'd rather say) were invisible NPCs, but they fixed this bug now. But I am still newbie, didnt do much in the game. And some players over level 20 talk about broken quests, rewards unuseable, monsters turn invisible if the dungeon gets crowded etc.
    I wonder your opinions about how fast they solve the problems in eq2. Please no WOW flaming.



    i'm lvl 16, and have a friend lvl 19 (completed subclass quest), and we occasionaly play on each other accounts.  Eq2 doesn't have massive amounts of bugs.  The only bug i've really noticed is that there are invis mobs, but only in about 2 zones have i actually found it. (Blackburrow, and very rarely, but once, Vermin's Syne)  Eq2 is got to be the MOST smooth release of a game yet.  Not that i'm flamming WoW, but WoW has bugs, server lag, prefermance issues up the Wa Zo.  (yes i bought the game, and i have to say i don't like it very much, but don't flame me on this)  There is another bug i've noticed, it was some pathing issue with those trails, but they have completely fixed that now.  The rewards unusably, thats either because its a item type they can't use (although 99% of quests that give equipable items give you a choice on the item), or they don't have the skill yet. (some people did their subclass quest, but had a few skill points short of actually using the item you get)  Broken quest.........i've heard problems of this, never seen one myself (neither has my friend), and we together have done MANY quests.  The delivery boy.......whoever said that obviously hasn't gotten past lvl 10.  I had a quest (watched my friend more exactly, hey, he is 3 lvls higher than me image), he first had to kill a bunch of bloodsabers and get 3 scrolls, type of quest where occasionly if you kill them, your journal updates saying you found it, but after he had collected the scrolls (rather diffuclt), he went back to the quest giver.  The quest give said that the scrolls described how the bloodsabers were trying to bring back a long dead knight so they could use him in their service, Sir Wembly.  So my friend inslited the help of some good friends and fought his way to through one of the catacomb lvls (Vermins Syne to be exact), once he got through nearly an army of skeleies, he needed to go into an instance by himself to complete the quest.  He said it was rather fun, and diffuclte, had to take down lots of skeleys to get to the bloodsaber necromancer.  He died twice, but the thrid time he got there, kill the boss, went back to the quest giver, and got some awsome reward.

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  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    Ive played both so I can give you an opinion....

    If you like exploring - WoW is better. Why, because the world doesnt feel so small and confined via zoning. SOE cant ever fix lag in their games (see swg) so they zone everything. Walk into a sewer, zone...walk into the woods from a town, zone. With WoW, you leave a town and walk straight into the wilderness smoothly. You can cross an entire continent without zoning.

    If you like forced grouping - EQ2 is better. Fact is, and even hardcore eq fanboys will agree the primary emphasis in eq games has always been grouping (guild raids also). Forget about solo play, sure it can be done but so can pulling your teeth out...not very fun to do. With WoW, elite quests require groups while much else can be done effectively solo. No forced grouping is always good in my opinion.

    If you like a pointless war - choose eq2. Whats the point in having good vs. evil if you can fight each other, how dumb is that. Im no fan of PvP, but WoW did it right. Even on normal servers (which im on) its fun to risk travelling into enemy lands because there are serious risks involved. And some quests will lead you into enemy territory. I had a blast the other night attempting to mine for iron in enemy teritory and hiding from enemies in nearby caves and underwater hehe.

    Overall, its no contest and yes the numbers do matter. There is a reason twice as many (might be 3 times as many by now) players play WoW over EQ2, its just better for all those reasons and more.

  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    edit *wrong post*

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  • 92165449216544 Member Posts: 1,904


    Originally posted by admriker444
    For those who know me, they're quite aware of my distaste towards SOE. I left SWG with a bitter experience from such a total lack of customer service and gameplay. I tried EQ2 only because many of my friends were going there. I went in anticipating another bad experience.... boy was I wrong.
    First off the game has the best tutorial ever. There is little doubt how things work as each topic is covered by an npc leading you through a simple quest that 1. gives you an easy explanation on how something works and 2. gives you xp and 3. feels immersive and not tedious chores. I truly enjoyed making my first items as an artisan because there was no guess-work involved. I made something based on tutorial, got some xp, unlocked use of crafting room, and was able to sell the items i made. For combat and movement, the ship was a nice way to intro you to these things without risk of messing up and ending up dead.
    I only made it to level 6 scout (and level 4 artisan) so far but had fun doing it. It didnt feel like grinding because i was doing quests for npc's. I havent left the beginning player town (didnt pay attention to name) but still didnt even come close to talking to everyone. There's some neat things to try like fishing and swimming underwater. Also the loot isnt bad for newb area. I've been able to loot enough stuff and sell back to an npc to buy a full set of armor for my level (jn just an hr or two).
    The graphics are truly detailed. I have an AMD 3000, 1 gig corsair ram (3200), 200 gig ata133 drive, soundblaster audigy 2, and a ATI 9600 128 mb video card.... hardly top of the line but graphics still looked pretty good. And amazingly zero lag !!! I was expecting SWG type lag but got absolutely none, no skips, no freezing, nothing but smooth frames.
    I have yet to experience EQ2's customer service so I leave no judgment from that. However, if the game is as stable as it appears to be, I wont have much need for a csr.


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  • TasidarTasidar Member Posts: 19
    It's all in your opinion. WoW is better for people who like the Warcraft style, and EQ2 is better for people who like the realistic style. I'm personally a big fan of the Warcraft series so I got WoW, but it's totally up to you. Try them out if you can, if not, read reviews and see if anyone you know has.

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  • CloudinkCloudink Member UncommonPosts: 120

    ok... well i played WoW since Beta, to OPen, and now im playing EQ2.

    WoW, has strong points and so does EQ2

    EQ2 better Graphics, u dont need a good machine to run Eq2, you can have a crappy one(like my friend) and you can run it, hes doesnt look as well as mine does, but hey he can still enjoy the game.(but u will be missing some serious eye candy)

    WoW, cartoonish graphics, WoW can and will run on anything, u name it! Toaster it will do it!, oven you got it... This game looks decent, no eye candy terrain blah, the whole world feels i dont know the word for it, cant explain it but, bleh. They say it flows towards the WC3, style graphics but it dont Blizzard is just using an outdated engine, even they admitted it some where on the forums over at WoW.

    EQ2 Combat, is fun, not very orignal but fun none the least, its no longer presss A and hope for the best!! its more person envolved, tanks are usefull now, i can use a certain ability to make sure say i cast it on the caster the caster will not take as much damage because some of the damage would transfer over too me, now if thats not a meat shield i dont know what is. you gain abilites as you level, you can also buy abilities from other players or crafters in the game who make them, or if you lucky you can find them. Also in combat you have to use your abilities wisely, not to make sure you do an area effect spell, to attract extra mob, you have to assist you main tank, and not just split up, casters have to use the right heals, instant/group/etc.

    EQ2 has heroic abilities, much like the skill chain in FF11, one of the party members, starts this heroic chain, and each member has to do their part to complete that "chain". if some one screws up then they have to restart the chain again. if you get it to work, the chain will reward you with somekinda of dmg to the mob, group heal, buff, etc.

    WoW Combat, much like the EQ2 combat, you ingage and you have to make sure to press the right ability. ( sorry cant give you much input on this, played as a warlock till level 38) but if u play a warlock, then this is how it goes, if you have lets say your early pet, your gonna have to tank if you want to solo, cause ur pet will crap out after 2 or 4 hits, depending on the mob, but it does some good ass damaga. So you pull the mob with some kinda of dot, and then u make sure ur pet aggros it untill u can Debuff,, and Dot the crap out of it, then you do lets say shadow bolt, and keep on doing it untill it goes down, best part is you can upgrade ur pets. Void walker is diffrent, it will tank for you and do ok damage, so you can dot and bolt the crap out of it, but if the aggro breaks off ur pet, ur in some trouble.

    EQ2 grouping vs Soloing. well one of the guys here said that soloing sucked, and hes right, its no way in hell as much fun as grouping plus getting into a group is a damn snap, u go to your upper toolbar, click the look for people choose, people who are flaged LFG, and invite them in, 5 mins later u got a full group and into Wailing Caves/Black Burrow you go killing everything in your path, its damn fun, cant explain it, cause its so fun!!!. Soloing is very hard, if you dont have the right equipment, and its also a lot harder if you lazy and dont to your own Heroic ability.

    WoW grouping VS soloing. Soloing, is what you will propably do most of the time, unless you crash upon a quest 2 hard, but even some quets you can sneak through or run through while your pet draws aggro, and grab the item you need. Grouping, as i said not very neccessery, and it feels icky, each class in your group will play a role, but it turns into a button mash, to get out your bolt or Debuff as fast you can.


    EQ2 Quests, basic retarted crap with some twists, gather something and return, give something to some one and return, find something/someplace and return, hassle and threaten some one and return(if your in freeport) thats pretty much been my experience.

    WoW Quests, read above, same picture, u run somewhere and get something, go somplace and return, gather something and return, and then gather/find/kill/return.

    Quests: you cant ask for more from both games, i mean seriously come on how good can you make a quest?

    Lattency/zonez/performance: EQ2, well i got to say sometimes im not happy, you will get lagged up,if you play for a long time somewhere with a lot of people, long time i mean like hours(even on my machine) otherwise game runs smooth, no crashes, no glitches. There are Zonez in EQ2, and i dont see that as a big problem, considering everything is instanced in the game cept the cities, But when your outside good god, you will walk or ride, fly whatever for a long time before you reach a zone, and when you do you will zone quick(at least i do). all in all game runs fine, doesnt crash, can run in windowed mode, really nice if you have to monitors cause you can stretch out the window to make it look like its not windowed and then have some kinda of walkthrough quest guide on the the other screen and go back and forth.

    Lattency/zonez/performance:WoW, NO ZONEZ!!! HELL YEA! its actually reall really nice i give Blizzy 2 thumbs up for that one ::::20:: ::::20:: , i have never lagged in WoW, not once!!! 1 because its not graphicly as intensive on my computer as Eq2, 2 i got a good ISP, and 3 Blizzy got some good servers. Game runs fine overall, havent crashed ones, cept when i tried to exploit something to see if worked. ::::28:: , but thats my fault (so dont try to exploit, otherwise you will crash)

    I have not tried crafting, but i hear EQ2's crafting system rocks!

    Ohh and on the issure on PvP, yea EQ2 is PvE and i for one dont see that as a problem, there will be PvP later on ( i think cause i saw a place in freeport called callasium((it was closed tho)), but they desided to balance clases for PvE first bfore they start tweaking for PvP. The reason there is no Evil vs good, is because its in the plot line silly.. Lucan said that he will try to "muscle" the Princess of Qeynos out of the picture, instead of all out war, but for all we know he is musstering an attack and is ready to release it as soon as SOE can get an expansion pack out.


    Both games are fun, i chose EQ2 because i felt more immeresed, i can push through tall grass, my clothes will move with me, the fire blurs the my image and blurrs everything period if looked through, charcters twitchm move, blink, breath, turn their heads when some one is near.

    Im not commenting on Voices, because i think EQ2 had a bigger budjet, and as soon as they heard WoW is gonna have voices, they hired their own voice actors and tried to out do them.

    But in Both games it helps!

    But if you have the money, the time, and the detication get both games, i would if i only had the time!!

    PS:i doubt this gonna be read cause it so long, but i hope this helped, ohh and i tried to be as unbiased as i could, but something you cant help so my applogies.

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  • WickesWickes Member UncommonPosts: 749

    And if you like BS, admirker444 beats both WOW and EQ2 hands down image

    Nobody is going to waste their time responding to your rubbish anymore.  Why don't you take your crusade elsewhere.  Maybe go picket or something.  Hey, you could even picket for something meaningful image

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