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Is DDO worth playing now that it is F2P ?

ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

Is it worth playing now ? Has the population grown since the announcement of F2P model ?  I'll be playing AIon at launch but until then I wouldn't mind trying the game if it is worth it.

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  • AganazerAganazer Member Posts: 1,319
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    Is it worth playing now ? Has the population grown since the announcement of F2P model ?  I'll be playing AIon at launch but until then I wouldn't mind trying the game if it is worth it.

     

    Word on the forums is that there are a lot of new players, but I'd recommend that you wait for the free version to be released. There are a lot of new bells and whistles in the free version. Its really like a new game.

  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144

     Its not coming out as F2P until late summer so just do your thing until then. When it comes out give it a try. Thats all I can say.

    Personally I always thought the game was almost good enough to be P2P but just didn't quite have the population. As a F2P game I would say its worth having on your comp to load up and do some things here and there while waiting for other things to come out.

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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    Originally posted by seabass2003


     Its not coming out as F2P until late summer so just do your thing until then. When it comes out give it a try. Thats all I can say.
    Personally I always thought the game was almost good enough to be P2P but just didn't quite have the population. As a F2P game I would say its worth having on your comp to load up and do some things here and there while waiting for other things to come out.



     

    I might just have to check it out then. Thanks!

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  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
    Originally posted by Aganazer

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    Is it worth playing now ? Has the population grown since the announcement of F2P model ?  I'll be playing AIon at launch but until then I wouldn't mind trying the game if it is worth it.

     

    Word on the forums is that there are a lot of new players, but I'd recommend that you wait for the free version to be released. There are a lot of new bells and whistles in the free version. Its really like a new game.



     

    Do you mean a lot of beta players? I have heard that they gave away quite a few betas to new players.

  • sadeyxsadeyx Member UncommonPosts: 1,555

    Well I wonderd the same thing.  I played it in beta originally and thoguht it was terrible.

    a lot has changed since then, I did the trial to check it out!  trial.doo.com

    after having finished the trial, well, lol, me and several  friends might actually subscribe!  There are certain permenant advantages to having once been a VIP even if you go free, so I think it will be worth it.

    And looking down the list of things for Mod9 Im pretty excited!

  • joel3190joel3190 Member Posts: 2

    Going f2p has the potential of being very good for DDO.  You will get more people logging in with friend because it is free.

    I have a buddie who has 3 kids under 3 years old 2 year old son and then twins.  He loves to play these games but does not have enough time to play games to make a $15-20/mo subscription worth while,  With this I can have him play DDO and not feel like he is wasting money month to month. And as he want access to more he will be able to buy upgrades in the store. 

    I have several other friends who also want to try once it goes free to play. This will likley result in several of them subscribing in the end. I have been wanting to get back to playing DDO and this will allow me to finally have my frinds playing with me. And that is what really makes me enjoy MMOs.

  • EogrisEogris Member UncommonPosts: 102

    Personally I cannot wait until Unlimited is released. I have high hopes for this game. When I tried the trials a while back I always felt it wasn't worth the money, now there's nothing to lose.

     

    A question to D&D:O players, does the narrative voice talk in every dungeon or just the beginner trial dungeon? That narraration kinda immersed me.

  • Wind-breakerWind-breaker Member Posts: 23

    Probably not.  This is a game that went 3+ years without attracting a substantial community.  The only difference is the supposed FTP tag, which will require a player to purchase end game and the popular lower level missions in the DDO store.  At the same time, a new player will be starting 3 years behind the vets, which really can only be solved by another trip to the Turbine store.  You just might go broke on Free to Play.

    There is also another consideration.  They have made the radical change in the funding base of the game,  If it flops, your new characters could be "AC2'd" rather quickly.  Many vets will acknowledge that Turbine is not the most open and honest developer; they keep secrets and misrepresent things like release dates and upcoming plans.  If they choose to close DDO, you will have wasted your time and any money you spent in this "Free to Play" game ...

  • BrifBrif Member UncommonPosts: 529
    Originally posted by Eogris


    A question to D&D:O players, does the narrative voice talk in every dungeon or just the beginner trial dungeon? That narraration kinda immersed me.

     

    I played several dungeons during the DDOU closed beta and it had the narrative voice in most of them.

  • signetringsignetring Member Posts: 87

    Well I have been actually trying out the Beta to see if the free play is going to be worthwhile and I really have to say it's a mixed bag. There are some good and there's some bad. Unfortunately the bad points make it almost not worth trying.

     

    A) Too many things "cost" points - if you are a returning player you should have content unlocked up until the point where you stopped paying. You can't tell a customer that the money they spent on the game in the past is not of any value now. This is what Turbine is doing by making familiar quests such as Shan to Kor and Tangleroot now suddenly 'paid content'.

     

    Its absolutely unthinkable that Turbine would do this to returning players. New players I could understand why they would do this. If you have favor for a certain mission already - it should be unlocked. Period. It currently is not... which means that players like me who have given Turbine hundreds if not thousands of dollars a real bad taste.

     

    B) The game looks really really dated. Walking around the harbor you see the horrible font used for text chat and floaty names still in use is absurd. Why they have not updated that is beyond me. The stale, dated graphical feel of this game is not a strong point at all. They get an F for "visual appeal".

     

    C) Repeating quests over and over and over and over loses its luster fast. Sorry gang, nothing's changed here. Turbine putting whipped cream on shit yet again.

     

    Sad to see ... it really is.

  • Mattyb710Mattyb710 Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by signetring


    Well I have been actually trying out the Beta to see if the free play is going to be worthwhile and I really have to say it's a mixed bag. There are some good and there's some bad. Unfortunately the bad points make it almost not worth trying.
     
    A) Too many things "cost" points - if you are a returning player you should have content unlocked up until the point where you stopped paying. You can't tell a customer that the money they spent on the game in the past is not of any value now. This is what Turbine is doing by making familiar quests such as Shan to Kor and Tangleroot now suddenly 'paid content'.
     
    Its absolutely unthinkable that Turbine would do this to returning players. New players I could understand why they would do this. If you have favor for a certain mission already - it should be unlocked. Period. It currently is not... which means that players like me who have given Turbine hundreds if not thousands of dollars a real bad taste.
     

    Wow, nice argument. It was paid content before, and now it's.....paid content. And this is a problem? People should be grateful for the parts they get to play for free, because before this change ALL of the game was paid content.

  • signetringsignetring Member Posts: 87

    Actually if you read all their module splash pages every one of them announced that the content that was being delivered was FREE.

     

    Our subscriptions paid for the development of such content, charging again for it just seems criminal.

     

    In the usual Turbine fanboy fashion though, you seem to have the same tone that they all have about how fortunate and blessed we should feel just because Turbine lets us play their game. Except that, wait a minute, it was the expectation of our money that developed it... and the continual subscription fees created more ... shouldn't they be grateful for our dollars instead?

     

    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    Free to Play was the ONLY way DDO could go ... they can no longer justify the $14.95 fee.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    In my opion no.

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    DDO no, LOTR yes you can get a lifetime sub for Lotr and it is well worth it. Though not f2p at start.

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  • Nightbringe1Nightbringe1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,335
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    Is it worth playing now ? Has the population grown since the announcement of F2P model ?  I'll be playing AIon at launch but until then I wouldn't mind trying the game if it is worth it.



     

    Currently F2P is still in beta.

    If you want to try the game, go for it. It costs you nothing but the time to download the client. Play for as long as you want before deciding. The gameplay itself has not changed much, they have just added an alternate revenue model. While you can choose to use the subscription model, you now have the choice of purchasing content on an as wanted model as well.

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  • pvthudson01pvthudson01 Member UncommonPosts: 53

    I think it is I just posted a huge blog post about it:

     

    http://hudshideout.com/blog/

     

    I think its even worth paying for until it goes free at this point

  • pvthudson01pvthudson01 Member UncommonPosts: 53
    Originally posted by signetring


    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    That is an idiotic statement. Do you even know how levels work in DDO? I don't think you do, perhaps actual research before you post that kind of garbage.

  • Wind-breakerWind-breaker Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by pvthudson01

    Originally posted by signetring


    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    That is an idiotic statement. Do you even know how levels work in DDO? I don't think you do, perhaps actual research before you post that kind of garbage.



     

    Very nice blog, by the way.  Bear in mind, your prospective is quite different from Signetring, as I believe he was a vet DDO player, and your blog indicated that you played 4 days and hated it, and recently returned.  For someone who just returned to the game, there will appear to be a lot of content, as 8 mods have been added since release 3 1/2 years ago.  However, to a vet, the content doesn't appear that significant, as the vet watched the glacial pace of development over the past 3 1/2 years.  

    A returning player from the beginning is likely to notice play improvements added since release, while a vet is more likely to still be upset that what was added to the game was less than what the developers promised.  A returning player will be low level, and still have the overriding goal of leveling; a vet will have been capped since February 2008, and will be wallowing in the cycle of Shroud/ Reavers Refuge grinding, as that is the only thing a high level character has to do in a game without crafting, player housing, or meaningful PvP.  A returning player may see the potential in the game; a vet will see the developers continue to waste its potential, much like a typical New York Jets First round pick.

    It is good that you have found a game you seem to enjoy.  However, people who may check out the FTP system should also be aware of the limitations of DDO.  The pace of development is a negative.  The lack of meaningful endgame is also a negative.  And the trustworthiness of Turbine is a big negative.   

  • signetringsignetring Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Wind-breaker





     

    Very nice blog, by the way.  Bear in mind, your prospective is quite different from Signetring, as I believe he was a vet DDO player, and your blog indicated that you played 4 days and hated it, and recently returned.  For someone who just returned to the game, there will appear to be a lot of content, as 8 mods have been added since release 3 1/2 years ago.  However, to a vet, the content doesn't appear that significant, as the vet watched the glacial pace of development over the past 3 1/2 years.  

    A returning player from the beginning is likely to notice play improvements added since release, while a vet is more likely to still be upset that what was added to the game was less than what the developers promised.  A returning player will be low level, and still have the overriding goal of leveling; a vet will have been capped since February 2008, and will be wallowing in the cycle of Shroud/ Reavers Refuge grinding, as that is the only thing a high level character has to do in a game without crafting, player housing, or meaningful PvP.  A returning player may see the potential in the game; a vet will see the developers continue to waste its potential, much like a typical New York Jets First round pick.

    It is good that you have found a game you seem to enjoy.  However, people who may check out the FTP system should also be aware of the limitations of DDO.  The pace of development is a negative.  The lack of meaningful endgame is also a negative.  And the trustworthiness of Turbine is a big negative.   

     

    This.

  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
    Originally posted by pvthudson01

    Originally posted by signetring


    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    That is an idiotic statement. Do you even know how levels work in DDO? I don't think you do, perhaps actual research before you post that kind of garbage.



     

    Do you know how DDO works? When DDO came out level 10 was the top level. To be completely honest they have only added 6 levels in 3.5 years as the last 4 have not been released yet. To say his statement was idiotic when you yourself played 4 days at release and then quit and now came back and think you know everything about the game is laughable at best. Your research is limited at best compared to people who have played since release or even like me who played for 1.5 years then left and came back 6 months ago.

     

    Just because you wrote a little blog about it does not make you an expert.

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444
    Originally posted by Rokurgepta

    Originally posted by pvthudson01

    Originally posted by signetring


    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    That is an idiotic statement. Do you even know how levels work in DDO? I don't think you do, perhaps actual research before you post that kind of garbage.



     

    Do you know how DDO works? When DDO came out level 10 was the top level. To be completely honest they have only added 6 levels in 3.5 years as the last 4 have not been released yet. To say his statement was idiotic when you yourself played 4 days at release and then quit and now came back and think you know everything about the game is laughable at best. Your research is limited at best compared to people who have played since release or even like me who played for 1.5 years then left and came back 6 months ago.

     

    Just because you wrote a little blog about it does not make you an expert.

    Guys, guys, it's not the number that's important it's the fun you had getting it! :D

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  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by Rokurgepta

    Originally posted by pvthudson01

    Originally posted by signetring


    I know for me personally there are many other games out there that actually produce more content that DDO ever did. Since when should I feel fortunate to play a game that's only added 10 levels in 3.5 years? Had I been a paid subscriber all that time it would have been well over $500 for every subscription. That's an insanely high price tag for a game where repeating quests over and over is the norm.

     

    That is an idiotic statement. Do you even know how levels work in DDO? I don't think you do, perhaps actual research before you post that kind of garbage.



     

    Do you know how DDO works? When DDO came out level 10 was the top level. To be completely honest they have only added 6 levels in 3.5 years as the last 4 have not been released yet. To say his statement was idiotic when you yourself played 4 days at release and then quit and now came back and think you know everything about the game is laughable at best. Your research is limited at best compared to people who have played since release or even like me who played for 1.5 years then left and came back 6 months ago.

     

    Just because you wrote a little blog about it does not make you an expert.

    Guys, guys, it's not the number that's important it's the fun you had getting it! :D



     

    Obviously not many people had that much fun getting it, or DDO would not be going Hybrid F2P in an attempt to save itself from closure.

  • BesCirgaBesCirga Member Posts: 806
    Originally posted by Rokurgepta

    Originally posted by mrcalhou


    Guys, guys, it's not the number that's important it's the fun you had getting it! :D



     Obviously not many people had that much fun getting it, or DDO would not be going Hybrid F2P in an attempt to save itself from closure.



     

    You always have to have the the last word, dont you? Mrcalhou wasnt even commenting on how many had fun getting to end level. He just made a comment, in jest, that the ride to end level is the most fun. And look at your response ..^.. Exploiting every chance you get to bash DDO/Turbine.

    Now, Im not saying you shouldnt post, or anything similiar, but what I am saying is; I am sick and tired of your assumptions, no-point posts and trollish behaviour.

    Just one mans opinion.

    Good day    

  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
    Originally posted by BesCirga

    Originally posted by Rokurgepta

    Originally posted by mrcalhou


    Guys, guys, it's not the number that's important it's the fun you had getting it! :D



     Obviously not many people had that much fun getting it, or DDO would not be going Hybrid F2P in an attempt to save itself from closure.



     

    You always have to have the the last word, dont you? Mrcalhou wasnt even commenting on how many had fun getting to end level. He just made a comment, in jest, that the ride to end level is the most fun. And look at your response ..^.. Exploiting every chance you get to bash DDO/Turbine.

    Now, Im not saying you shouldnt post, or anything similiar, but what I am saying is; I am sick and tired of your assumptions, no-point posts and trollish behaviour.

    Just one mans opinion.

    Good day    



     

    Then may I suggest the ignore function if reading opinions of people who do not believe DDO/Turbine has been a success. MY posts all have a point, you just do not like the point.

     

    As an aside the troll post here would be yours as all you are doing is flaming and bashing me for having an opinion you do not like. Of course I notice you offer no real answer of your own just some insults. I would wish you a good day but I could actually care less.

  • uncusuncus Member UncommonPosts: 528

    Absolutely!  

    As F2P, what do you have to lose? [If your time is sooo valuable, get off your ass and DO something - don't sit on it playing videogames! <anticipating response>]

    Upsides:

    • FREE to play - are you going to be able to run more than 20% of the total content for free? No, but you can see if you enjoy what IS offered, then either buy more of the content, get a guest pass for it from someone who has it, or keep running the same.
    • My GUESS is that people who "play well with others" will be offered Guest passes now & then by VIPs/people who have paid for the content.  Asshats will play the free stuff for a bit, then fade away as they won't be offered passes.
    • Closest MMO to d20 ruleset [if you enjoy the d20 rules]//Some, myself included, really like the way combat is done [others may not - again, try it for FREE]
    • 6 month subscription is $60 - one calculation on the boards at ddo is that it five years [plus a few months] is the break even point between subscribing at that rate and just buying all the content [all adventure packs/10 character slots/all races & classes]
    • More exposure/influx of new players - MAY pump new life into the game for vets.

    Downsides:

    • F2P means influx of asshats - regardless of age
    • Most of the best dungeons beyond the starter area [Korthos] will cost $ - either as a subscriber or in macrotransactions
    • which leads to -> prices are STILL out of whack:  some of the best areas are cheaper than some not so good areas; cosmetic stuff [hair dyes] are way overpriced; Turbine Points are based on some currency other than USD [currently $6.50 for 400TP] <Not Korean or Australian - anybody able to figure out a currency that is close to that ratio?>
    • Brand new system added to beta [NDA has been lifted!] to reduce lag has made some dungeons unplayable via zerging. [this may not be such a bad thing, though one dungeon in particular - Stealthy Reposession - may be nearly impossible to do at anywhere near level.  I have not yet tested this myself, I am just speculating]

    Bottom Line:  Is FREE worth it to TRY DDO?  Hell yeah!

     

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