Define failure? because if you think that Darkfall failed then you really are a cluless person arent you?
Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
Define failure? because if you think that Darkfall failed then you really are a cluless person arent you?
Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
So yes, I would call that a failure.
Can't argue much with that if you think of commercial success, it's an extremely narrow point of view and we can place that label on many games hosted on this site, but DF was never meant to be a commercially mainstream game.
Thank goodness that small business isn't living in your world.
Define failure? because if you think that Darkfall failed then you really are a cluless person arent you?
Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
So yes, I would call that a failure.
Can't argue much with that if you think of commercial success, it's an extremely narrow point of view and we can place that label on many games hosted on this site, but DF was never meant to be a commercially mainstream game.
Thank goodness that small business isn't living in your world.
Not sure what world you live in but private corporations are dependant on income and to be commercialy, if not successful, atleast viable.
So the question begs, with <10k subscriber base how commercially viable do you think Darkfall is. And how long do you think it can stay afloat with such a low income base?
But sure, we can argue other aspects of the game. Like the decade old gfx engine? Or the horrendous UI? Or the lack of any true content except the overused "FFA PvP" content? The game is a failure, in my book, and this is from someone who's favourite MMORPG of all times was Asherons Call on the Darktide server. Now that was a well designed and implemented FFA PvP MMORPG.
Sad sad little DF fanbots, crying into their milk about the supierior developers and community we have on the MO forums. Must be a shock to see competant mods keeping things civil. Some of us like forums devoid of cursing rants, DIAF GTFO and QQ, and all the other intelligent things the Forumfall community spews:
I didn't curse at all. I simply asked a question. And I was banned for life. That shows the mods are out of control. Plain and simple.
Get over yourself, man up and learn from this lesson. Stop being a troll and learn to word your posts with a tad more dignity and respect.
All this QQ'ing is repulsive... you're still complaining about it... lol MO community is for adults, so conduct yourself accordingly.
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Get over yourself, man up and learn from this lesson. Stop being a troll and learn to word your posts with a tad more dignity and respect. All this QQ'ing is repulsive... you're still complaining about it... lol MO community is for adults, so conduct yourself accordingly.
LOL, even Lachrymose, the #1 MO fanboy thinks they are too strict on the MO forums , and lock too many threads.
I think it's an unfortunate sign of weakness on the part of a development team to take a skeptical post and just ban it rather than respond thoughtfully.
I think it's an unfortunate sign of weakness on the part of a development team to take a skeptical post and just ban it rather than respond thoughtfully.
I think he was banned by volunteer moderators, not developers.
I think it's an unfortunate sign of weakness on the part of a development team to take a skeptical post and just ban it rather than respond thoughtfully.
I think he was banned by volunteer moderators, not developers.
Very likely. Such types tend to be zealots of the first order, and need a good CM to keep them in check.
Just for info, the OP doesn't tell the whole story (as usual in this kind of cases). He was trolling since a while already before he finally got banned with that post. It's not that specific post that got him banned, but his overall behavior on the MO forums.
I for one really appreciate the change compared to the darkfail forums. Trolls, rude kiddies and other forumfall rejects are not tolerated on the MO forums, and will be eliminated. That just shows the will of the devs to build a real community, and not a cesspool of rudeness ruled by its most vocal and most antisocial members.
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I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
If you got permaban for that, then that's ridiculous. It's an honest question, and even if they censor it on their forums people will still have their own thoughts and opinions.
Which I think they should allow to be expressed, that has nothing to do with disrespect. Because like I said, it's an honest question.
If that's lack of respect then people SHOULD "disrespect" all games and companies.
if you don't question things and demand some standards you get whatever.
I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
First of all they are swedish, and I am not surpriced they banned you
I think i was banned too.... I dont know for sure though
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Also i can't log into the game... Have they Blacklisted my IP? is this a ban?
as usual, only one side of the story is present. Don't belive it, MO mods ban based on how many warnings you have had or if you are using more than one froum account. He was probably banned for that.
Anyone with half a brain n see that I didn't make that other post that said GTFO and . My posts are all well thought out respectful, and I have never used things like that in the 5 years I have been posting on this forum. I'm sorry you can't see something that is so obvious.
Maybe the reason you don't have posts like "GTFO" and "<3", because you make such posts from your alt accounts. I wonder how many alts you have here on these forums. I also wonder how many of those you have used to pat yourself on the back in this thread.
you know, i was thinking the same thing.. in fact, i'd say there's a very good chance ghoul's got a horde of alts on these forums. he definitely seems like the type of guy that would create multiple accounts to dehype promising looking MMOs (ex: Mortal Online) off the front page for one reason or another. maybe he's just a bitter gamer that thought AoC was going to revolutionize the industry, or maybe just an angry WoW fanboi that wants to see all other games fail.. guess we'll never know since getting a straight answer out of him seems next to impossible.
The funny thing is...the tree fell and no one heard it. In other words what happened to him will not make one bit of difference. I will still be playing MO, so will all the other people interested in the game. At the end of the day all of this drama is simply akin to watching kids fight in the sandbox.
As to Ghoul not bieng able to post on the MO forums. Assuming he has more then one account, that you assume you are unaware of, he can, so that is a non issue. As to wanted to post on any forum...I never understood the addiction people seem to have doing so.
At any rate, MMORPG.COM is always good for chuckles, thanks for posting all this gents!
Originally posted by ghoul31 I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
You come here, tell us your version of truth; what do you expect will happen now?
The OP was banned from the MO forums over a year ago.
A brief review of his posting history shows thay he was arguing that MO shouldn't be full loot, should include races that are farther from human and finally posted the thread that resulted in his ban. For just a bit more context, the title of that thread was "Do you really have any hope for this game? ". The post then goes on to compare MO to a couple of legendary failures (Mourning and D&L) then asks what makes people think MO will be any different. The OP has defended that in this thread as constructive criticism, but I see nothing constructive about saying "I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG"
Essentially the OP was arguing that MO should be a different game and was saying that it had no chance of success. In such a case I think it reasonable to direct him elsewhere (i.e. ban)
P.s. Kleidas, if you are still following this thread, I'd be happy to check the status listed for you on the MO forums. Just post your MO forum name and I'll do a search on it.
The OP was banned from the MO forums over a year ago.
A brief review of his posting history shows thay he was arguing that MO shouldn't be full loot, should include races that are farther from human and finally posted the thread that resulted in his ban. For just a bit more context, the title of that thread was "Do you really have any hope for this game? ". The post then goes on to compare MO to a couple of legendary failures (Mourning and D&L) then asks what makes people think MO will be any different. The OP has defended that in this thread as constructive criticism, but I see nothing constructive about saying "I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG"
Essentially the OP was arguing that MO should be a different game and was saying that it had no chance of success. In such a case I think it reasonable to direct him elsewhere (i.e. ban)
P.s. Kleidas, if you are still following this thread, I'd be happy to check the status listed for you on the MO forums. Just post your MO forum name and I'll do a search on it.
The OP was from March of 2009.....
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The OP was banned from the MO forums over a year ago.
A brief review of his posting history shows thay he was arguing that MO shouldn't be full loot, should include races that are farther from human and finally posted the thread that resulted in his ban. For just a bit more context, the title of that thread was "Do you really have any hope for this game? ". The post then goes on to compare MO to a couple of legendary failures (Mourning and D&L) then asks what makes people think MO will be any different. The OP has defended that in this thread as constructive criticism, but I see nothing constructive about saying "I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG"
Essentially the OP was arguing that MO should be a different game and was saying that it had no chance of success. In such a case I think it reasonable to direct him elsewhere (i.e. ban)
P.s. Kleidas, if you are still following this thread, I'd be happy to check the status listed for you on the MO forums. Just post your MO forum name and I'll do a search on it.
I am well aware of that. I would prefer that kleidas had started a new thread rather than resurrecting this one. The only matter of current relevence is kleidas's question and I am happy to try and address that if he checks back in on this thread. I appreciate that by even commenting on the OP, I am contributing to the perpetuation of this thread.
All that being said, unless kleidas checks in on this thread, can we just leave it dormant?
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Define failure? because if you think that Darkfall failed then you really are a cluless person arent you?
Hm, that was unproffesional of them. You asked a tough, but legitimate question, and instead of answering it they just banned you?
If this is reflective on how the game will be run then it is not a good sign.
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Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
So yes, I would call that a failure.
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Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
So yes, I would call that a failure.
Can't argue much with that if you think of commercial success, it's an extremely narrow point of view and we can place that label on many games hosted on this site, but DF was never meant to be a commercially mainstream game.
Thank goodness that small business isn't living in your world.
See poll below.
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Less than 10k active subscribers after how many months post release? And this after having 300k registered to their "open" beta (which was never open but rather a paid beta).
So yes, I would call that a failure.
Can't argue much with that if you think of commercial success, it's an extremely narrow point of view and we can place that label on many games hosted on this site, but DF was never meant to be a commercially mainstream game.
Thank goodness that small business isn't living in your world.
Not sure what world you live in but private corporations are dependant on income and to be commercialy, if not successful, atleast viable.
So the question begs, with <10k subscriber base how commercially viable do you think Darkfall is. And how long do you think it can stay afloat with such a low income base?
But sure, we can argue other aspects of the game. Like the decade old gfx engine? Or the horrendous UI? Or the lack of any true content except the overused "FFA PvP" content? The game is a failure, in my book, and this is from someone who's favourite MMORPG of all times was Asherons Call on the Darktide server. Now that was a well designed and implemented FFA PvP MMORPG.
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I didn't curse at all. I simply asked a question. And I was banned for life. That shows the mods are out of control. Plain and simple.
Get over yourself, man up and learn from this lesson. Stop being a troll and learn to word your posts with a tad more dignity and respect.
All this QQ'ing is repulsive... you're still complaining about it... lol MO community is for adults, so conduct yourself accordingly.
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LOL, even Lachrymose, the #1 MO fanboy thinks they are too strict on the MO forums , and lock too many threads.
Almost four months after your ban and your still here bumping your thread? This must have really caused a lot of tears.
I think it's an unfortunate sign of weakness on the part of a development team to take a skeptical post and just ban it rather than respond thoughtfully.
Someone else bumped it, I was just responding to it. No I'm not crying, I could really care less.
I think he was banned by volunteer moderators, not developers.
I think he was banned by volunteer moderators, not developers.
Very likely. Such types tend to be zealots of the first order, and need a good CM to keep them in check.
Someone else bumped it, I was just responding to it. No I'm not crying, I could really care less.
Creating a thread about it shows that you really don't care about it.
Just for info, the OP doesn't tell the whole story (as usual in this kind of cases). He was trolling since a while already before he finally got banned with that post. It's not that specific post that got him banned, but his overall behavior on the MO forums.
I for one really appreciate the change compared to the darkfail forums. Trolls, rude kiddies and other forumfall rejects are not tolerated on the MO forums, and will be eliminated. That just shows the will of the devs to build a real community, and not a cesspool of rudeness ruled by its most vocal and most antisocial members.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
If you got permaban for that, then that's ridiculous. It's an honest question, and even if they censor it on their forums people will still have their own thoughts and opinions.
Which I think they should allow to be expressed, that has nothing to do with disrespect. Because like I said, it's an honest question.
If that's lack of respect then people SHOULD "disrespect" all games and companies.
if you don't question things and demand some standards you get whatever.
First of all they are swedish, and I am not surpriced they banned you
I think i was banned too.... I dont know for sure though
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Also i can't log into the game... Have they Blacklisted my IP? is this a ban?
as usual, only one side of the story is present. Don't belive it, MO mods ban based on how many warnings you have had or if you are using more than one froum account. He was probably banned for that.
The funny thing is...the tree fell and no one heard it. In other words what happened to him will not make one bit of difference. I will still be playing MO, so will all the other people interested in the game. At the end of the day all of this drama is simply akin to watching kids fight in the sandbox.
As to Ghoul not bieng able to post on the MO forums. Assuming he has more then one account, that you assume you are unaware of, he can, so that is a non issue. As to wanted to post on any forum...I never understood the addiction people seem to have doing so.
At any rate, MMORPG.COM is always good for chuckles, thanks for posting all this gents!
You come here, tell us your version of truth; what do you expect will happen now?
The OP was banned from the MO forums over a year ago.
A brief review of his posting history shows thay he was arguing that MO shouldn't be full loot, should include races that are farther from human and finally posted the thread that resulted in his ban. For just a bit more context, the title of that thread was "Do you really have any hope for this game? ". The post then goes on to compare MO to a couple of legendary failures (Mourning and D&L) then asks what makes people think MO will be any different. The OP has defended that in this thread as constructive criticism, but I see nothing constructive about saying "I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG"
Essentially the OP was arguing that MO should be a different game and was saying that it had no chance of success. In such a case I think it reasonable to direct him elsewhere (i.e. ban)
P.s. Kleidas, if you are still following this thread, I'd be happy to check the status listed for you on the MO forums. Just post your MO forum name and I'll do a search on it.
The OP was from March of 2009.....
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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yea over a year old
I am well aware of that. I would prefer that kleidas had started a new thread rather than resurrecting this one. The only matter of current relevence is kleidas's question and I am happy to try and address that if he checks back in on this thread. I appreciate that by even commenting on the OP, I am contributing to the perpetuation of this thread.
All that being said, unless kleidas checks in on this thread, can we just leave it dormant?