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  • RogueMasterRogueMaster Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.

     

    The guy is from Berlin, Germany.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by xFailx

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by Nicksd


    While it may not bother you, it might offend other gay people who play the game.



     

    What difference does it make.  Everyone seems to use any word that references us, as insults.  Gay, ghey, queer, fag, faggot, puffta, homosexual, homo, mo, so on and so forth have either been used against me or  against others in an insulting way.  None of them have a good connotation anymore if they ever did.  I've learned to just automatically ignore haters, but I sometimes wonder how you guys would react if it became common to use the words "straight"  or "hetero" as a curse or as a reference to something that is stupid.

    I'm fairly certain they block the name because they're more worried about offending straights or Christians than anyone who is Gay.

     

    OMG... QQ? Just kill me now. How can you stick up for this guy when his post makes him sound like he just drenched his keyboard in tears. This is likely the gheyist post ever.

     

    Other people get called shit all the time, I hang out with two black people on vent all the time and drop the N-word at least once an hour. They were offended at first, then they realized that it didn't mean ANYTHING! Get over it or play games that appeal to people that can't handle the banter.



     

    Wow, just wow.  Where the hell does all this crap of yours come from?  I'm not the one crying, you are.  Maybe you should try understanding what it is you're reading next time before you fly off the handle like that.  Reading comprehension for the win.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • DemonshankDemonshank Member Posts: 91


    Originally posted by Vrazule
    Originally posted by Nicksd While it may not bother you, it might offend other gay people who play the game.

     
    What difference does it make.  Everyone seems to use any word that references us, as insults.  Gay, ghey, queer, fag, faggot, puffta, homosexual, homo, mo, so on and so forth have either been used against me or  against others in an insulting way.  None of them have a good connotation anymore if they ever did.  I've learned to just automatically ignore haters, but I sometimes wonder how you guys would react if it became common to use the words "straight"  or "hetero" as a curse or as a reference to something that is stupid.
    I'm fairly certain they block the name because they're more worried about offending straights or Christians than anyone who is Gay.



    Another victim, eh? Id be hard pressed to think, each and everyone of us on this planet at some point in time of our lives, that we werent demeaned, made fun of, teased, joked on, screwed with, or belittled for a multitude of things. The way we look, speak, the sounds of our voice, the look of our clothes, our friends, and I could go on and on. Im sure you've never done it either(dont lie).


    I have a solution...thicken your skin, rise above it, and stop thinking of yourself as a victim. What goes around comes around and those people are on a far lower level than their target. Turn the other cheek and dont let them get the best of you, by giving a fuck what they have to say about anything.


    Reasonable people will reject those misanthrope from society far quicker than your indifferent preference.

  • lugallugal Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    The reviewer has a mishapen head
    Which means his opinion is skewed
    ...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904
    Originally posted by Vrazule


     
    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.
    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.

     

    I'm....dazzled.

  • WightyWighty Member UncommonPosts: 699
    Originally posted by UWNVME

    Originally posted by xFailx


    Well put, but still I think the homosexual parades are ridiculous. I feel that a couple drops of tear gas would go a long way in helping them become recognized as crazy lunitics running in the street. Which is what they are. You don't see straight people running down the street like psychos and calling it a parade.

     

    Really, you don't think so? How about those losers who march around in their white bed sheets and boyscout uniforms with the Swastika armbands? They hold parades too ya know. You don't think those guys are "lunitics"?

     



     

    Now they're all coming out of the woodwork... Parades in general are such a fail concept and nothing but a drain on the econmy for selfish gain... The only reason there should be a parade ever is to welcome home the troops...

     

    The gay pride parade is alsmost as bad as the PR day parade... Almost as bad as seeing guys flamboyantly frolicking around the streets with their butterfly wings and banana hamoks on is the PR's with the 85' corolla with the spiner hubcaps and a full size PR flag across their hood blasting daddy yankee...

    What are your other Hobbies?

    Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...

  • DemonshankDemonshank Member Posts: 91


    Originally posted by UWNVME
    Originally posted by xFailx

    Well put, but still I think the homosexual parades are ridiculous. I feel that a couple drops of tear gas would go a long way in helping them become recognized as crazy lunitics running in the street. Which is what they are. You don't see straight people running down the street like psychos and calling it a parade.
     
    Really, you don't think so? How about those losers who march around in their white bed sheets and boyscout uniforms with the Swastika armbands? They hold parades too ya know. You don't think those guys are "lunitics"?
     


    Yes, I fuckin do think they are far worse than lunatics. They are also a near dead breed and have so few that traffic in that kinda shit they should be ignored into distinction. Society has and will always struggle with the fringe, but it doesnt represent our nation and its people.


    I get fired up about that side of the fringe, but what about the other side...Code Pink...eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh god I need to take a shower in kerosine!!

  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • DemonshankDemonshank Member Posts: 91

    [quote][i]Originally posted by Wighty[/i] [b][quote][i]Originally posted by UWNVME[/i] [quote]Originally posted by xFailx Well put, but still I think the homosexual parades are ridiculous. I feel that a couple drops of tear gas would go a long way in helping them become recognized as crazy lunitics running in the street. Which is what they are. You don't see straight people running down the street like psychos and calling it a parade. [/quote]   Really, you don't think so? How about those losers who march around in their white bed sheets and boyscout uniforms with the Swastika armbands? They hold parades too ya know. You don't think those guys are "lunitics"?   [/quote]   Now they're all coming out of the woodwork... Parades in general are such a fail concept and nothing but a drain on the econmy for selfish gain... The only reason there should be a parade ever is to welcome home the troops...   The gay pride parade is alsmost as bad as the PR day parade... Almost as bad as seeing guys flamboyantly frolicking around the streets with their butterfly wings and banana hamoks on is the PR's with the 85' corolla with the spiner hubcaps and a full size PR flag across their hood blasting daddy yankee...[/b][/quote]  

     

     

    F'n A Cotton...F'n A!!  

     

    Translation: /salute

  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by Demonshank


     

    Originally posted by UWNVME


    Originally posted by xFailx



    Well put, but still I think the homosexual parades are ridiculous. I feel that a couple drops of tear gas would go a long way in helping them become recognized as crazy lunitics running in the street. Which is what they are. You don't see straight people running down the street like psychos and calling it a parade.


     

    Really, you don't think so? How about those losers who march around in their white bed sheets and boyscout uniforms with the Swastika armbands? They hold parades too ya know. You don't think those guys are "lunitics"?

     

     



    Yes, I fuckin do think they are far worse than lunatics. They are also a near dead breed and have so few that traffic in that kinda shit they should be ignored into distinction. Society has and will always struggle with the fringe, but it doesnt represent our nation and its people.



    I get fired up about that side of the fringe, but what about the other side...Code Pink...eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh god I need to take a shower in kerosine!!



     

    I can't stand hate groups, KKK, Religious or Political, but I respect their right to freedom of speech as I am free to ignore them.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    Then all TOS' are in violation of the 1st Amendment.

    GG w/ your logic.

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • NicksdNicksd Member Posts: 403
    Originally posted by Vrazule




     
    I can't stand hate groups, KKK, Religious or Political, but I respect their right to freedom of speech as I am free to ignore them.

     

    I also hate hate groups.Does that make me a hater though?

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    Originally posted by Nicksd

    Originally posted by Vrazule




     
    I can't stand hate groups, KKK, Religious or Political, but I respect their right to freedom of speech as I am free to ignore them.

     

    I also hate hate groups.Does that make me a hater though?

     

    Yes, but as I also hate hate groups, we should get together and have a parade.



  • neorandomneorandom Member Posts: 1,681

     you named yourself "queer cop" they thought you were the anti gay police out to rodney king the queers.  wasnt politically correct, just as picking on people for being gay isnt politically correct.  you cant have it both ways either you can have people get in trouble over using words like queer whether intended as an insult or not get in trouble in the game or you cant get mad when people do.

  • lugallugal Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.



     

    Yes I did, and I passed it. I doubt you did. That constition applies to the government.

    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



    Also, you still dont post any proof to support your claims of court cases.

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    The reviewer has a mishapen head
    Which means his opinion is skewed
    ...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley

  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by sanders01

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    Then all TOS' are in violation of the 1st Amendment.

    GG w/ your logic.



     

    You must not read up on these things much.  TOSs get challenged and beaten all the time in court.  So do contracts and everything else under the sun that violates the Constitution and is willing to be challenged.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • NicksdNicksd Member Posts: 403
    Originally posted by maskedweasel

    Originally posted by Nicksd

    Originally posted by Vrazule




     
    I can't stand hate groups, KKK, Religious or Political, but I respect their right to freedom of speech as I am free to ignore them.

     

    I also hate hate groups.Does that make me a hater though?

     

    Yes, but as I also hate hate groups, we should get together and have a parade.

     

    Lets do it.

  • qbangy32qbangy32 Member Posts: 681
    Originally posted by Elikal


    I usually take my word serious, and being in a MMORPG beta under NDA, I usually refrain from taking things to the open. But my personal code of ethics force me to bring something to the public, which I personally feel of enough importance.
     
    It is a story whose topic may be know to you. Banning gay people from MMOs. The story is simple enough. I created a character called "Qweer Cop", looking like a Cop. Now my character was forcibly renamed, telling me it was harrasment against sexual orientation. You may mind the irony, that a gay gamer (me!) is "protected" from being harrased by calling himself gay. You may or may may not share my idea of freedom that I can call a character as I want, but pretending to protect ME, by banning my own self-descption is in every way the height of absurdity.
    I thought after WOW and SWTOR, we have passe beyond this way of PC thinking. Apparently the lesson isnt learned... so here we go again.
     
    I posted a post in the Beta Forum, *kindly* and *reasonably* asking that it was wrong to forbid my character to be named like that. The Tems of Service just mention usage of sexual orientation is only forbidden, when it is used in a derogatory way, which I as gay gamer myself, can't. I mean I AM GAY. I can call MYSELF as I want. Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute, but apparently in 2009 it just means "Freedom of Speech to say what I agree to". There goes the land of the Free. I am ired about the fact they forbade "Qweer Cop" - I used a hero called "Qweer Avenger" in City of Heroes for YEARS, and not a single moment anyone cared.
    Nor is the word "Queer" genuinely sexal, as if I had called the char "Assbang Anvenger". It is a matter of identity. And it was a simply fun char, either way. The matter is, when in a forum a reasonable debat isnt just locked, it is deleted, and all the effort from both side are nullified.
     
    I understand most of you won't care. I know most of you won't care rat's ass about my pain about being made invisivle and being harrassed by a company. But even tho I know they will likely win and I won't, I must fight this fight. It is to acknowledge what I am - what we gay gamers are. We are once more forbidden even our very own name!
     
    And tho it may not credit me as a serious or sober person by your definition - I spit my hate of despise against Cryptic. Hell's own fire is not as hot as my anger against you. Know that I am entirely honest and serious in saying this: from the depth of my heart I wish Cryptic curse and doom.



     

    FFS 2 posts on the same subject in different forums, you on some sort of crusade here????????????

    I have no idea what planet your living on but it certainly isn't earth.

     

  • VrazuleVrazule Member Posts: 1,095
    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.



     

    Yes I did, and I passed it. I doubt you did. That constition applies to the government.

    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



    Also, you still dont post any proof to support your claims of court cases.



     

    Two can play that game.  Where is your proof.

    Secondly, what you quoted is exactly what I've been saying, only worded differently, but it means the same.  I don't know how you could have passed the class if you really think the Constitution only applies to the government itself, wow.

    With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal

  • lugallugal Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by sanders01

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    Then all TOS' are in violation of the 1st Amendment.

    GG w/ your logic.



     

    You must not read up on these things much.  TOSs get challenged and beaten all the time in court.  So do contracts and everything else under the sun that violates the Constitution and is willing to be challenged.



     

    Still waiting for you to post proof  of your claims.

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    The reviewer has a mishapen head
    Which means his opinion is skewed
    ...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.



     

    Yes I did, and I passed it. I doubt you did. That constition applies to the government.

    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



    Also, you still dont post any proof to support your claims of court cases.



     

    Two can play that game.  Where is your proof.

    Secondly, what you quoted is exactly what I've been saying, only worded differently, but it means the same.  I don't know how you could have passed the class if you really think the Constitution only applies to the government itself, wow.



     

    Tell you what, let's make this easy to prove you wrong. Go on a little tirade saying anything and everything you want, whether it's offensive or not. Then when mmorpg.com deletes the post and/or bans your happy ass, you sue for denying you your constitutional rights of freedom of speech.

    Let us know when you get that going so we can laugh our asses off at you. The constitutional right to free speech does NOT apply to private enterprise. In fact, go ask any lawyer who charges more than $10 an hour how far "freedom of speech" will take you. Try not to get offended if he laughs at you too.

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    Freedom of speech does not apply everywhere. Try to use it to its full extent ina  school.

    Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

    If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
    And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

    AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by sanders01

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by lugal

    Originally posted by Vrazule

    Originally posted by RogueMaster

    Originally posted by Elikal


     
    Freedom of Speech in USA used to be an absolute
     

     

    You've obviously never read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment does not apply to video games. In fact, it specifically states 'Congress shall make no law' in it's definition of 'free speech'.

     

    Last time I checked, Cryptic was not Congress.

     

    You fail. Again.



     

    Private or public, citizen or corporation, if you're located in the United States or it's territories, you must abide by the Constitution and it's Amendments.  Any service or product is included in this.  Lawsuits are filed and won against private companies and individuals who infringe these rights on a regular basis.  All it needs is someone to challenge it.

    The passage you quoted means that no successive law can be made to circumvent the first amendment.



     

    Prove this. I call bvllsh1t on this.



     

    Did you ever take a government class?  They teach you on day one that the Constitution is the Law of the Land.  The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to defend and interpret the Constitution and the court system is to ensure everyone abides by it as well.  Anything that a corporation or individual does that is un-constitutional can be challenged and taken to court, doesn't matter if it's on a bulletin board or in a computer game or in the confines of your own home.

    Then all TOS' are in violation of the 1st Amendment.

    GG w/ your logic.



     

    You must not read up on these things much.  TOSs get challenged and beaten all the time in court.  So do contracts and everything else under the sun that violates the Constitution and is willing to be challenged.

    Really I don't seem them in the news much being beaten.

     

    Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

    If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
    And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

    AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

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