Bam this guy at my job took offense, told my boss now there thinking of laying me off. What do i do?
Pray, and lawyer up quickly - because the stuff that happens in these cases will blow your mind. Reason and common sense fly out the window.
You have to make them fear a counter-suit for wrongful dismissal more one for discrimination. Suits for wrongful dismissal can reach upwards of $5 million.
I don't see what the problem is. They can't just say "we're thinking of firing you" and not give you a reason why. You never gave us this reason. Until we have that information, I find it hard pressed to believe this is a true story.
It's actually fairly common.
Anti-discrimination / harassment law complaints are, in most jurisdictions, relatively cheap to make. Wrongful dismissal and particularly defamation counter-suits can be incredibly expensive to initiate.
So faced with situations like this, employers often take a heavy-handed approach to protect themselves against the more likely (because it's cheaper) complaint of vicarious harassment/discrimination.
OP said>>So we were all sitting around chatting, and one guy was singing a song he made up of his, so i thought it would be a great time to impress people at my job..
Well sound like to me there more than one person who heard you singing to..You better hope that they dont stick up for the other guy..
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Thanks guys. Being a minoritiy in todays corperate world is hard.
Lol qq more. Actually whites have it harder today because of the racist minorities crying about their rights. If a black/ethnic guy and a white guy have the same credentials for a job interview the black/ethic guy gets it. That sounds extremely racist.
Black/Latina miss America, wheres the white Miss America?
Black schools, wheres the white schools?
Oh and the "I'm black/spanish/different I have it harder" routine doesn't work any more since we have a half non-white president so get off your ass and get a job. Also if you personalaly weren't a slave then you can't use that excuse either.
So in conclusion stop crying minorities, your lucky your even here and your being treated better then most white ppl that were born here.
I really couldn't find anything worth taking offence for in it, the guy probably just missunderstood you. Give your boss and the offended person a printout version and ask them what is the problem in it.
You might also consider getting a life, making songs about Wow is way beyond nerdy
Lol qq more. Actually whites have it harder today because of the racist minorities crying about their rights. If a black/ethnic guy and a white guy have the same credentials for a job interview the black/ethic guy gets it. That sounds extremely racist.
That's not racism, that's called statistics. Even colleges and universities have to keep their statistics: x% of whites, y% of Hispanics, z% of African American, q% of abc. Lern teh system.
Black/Latina miss America, wheres the white Miss America?
Since 2000, with the except of Angela Perez Baraquio in 2001, all the Miss America's titles were held by white women. Even before that, I'm too wikipedia all of it... Lern2Wikipedia :P
Black schools, wheres the white schools?
I actually attended an all white elementary school, Linnie, I believe I was like the only Hispanic attending.
Anyways back on topic, do as Haratu stated, get mediated with the offended and have your boss or manager be present. During this time, explain to the offended you were merely singing a song with references taken from an online game and did not mean to reference anything culturally or religiously to offend him. If your boss/supervisor agrees and whatnot there would really be no point in hiring a lawyer, unless you don't want to keep your job? :P
The moral of this story is: don't sing stupid songs about WoW at work, or anywhere else for that matter. Especially if you're part of the "corperate" world.
Lol qq more. Actually whites have it harder today because of the racist minorities crying about their rights. If a black/ethnic guy and a white guy have the same credentials for a job interview the black/ethic guy gets it. That sounds extremely racist. Black/Latina miss America, wheres the white Miss America?
Black schools, wheres the white schools?
Oh and the "I'm black/spanish/different I have it harder" routine doesn't work any more since we have a half non-white president so get off your ass and get a job. Also if you personalaly weren't a slave then you can't use that excuse either.
So in conclusion stop crying minorities, your lucky your even here and your being treated better then most white ppl that were born here.
For future reference when everyone wants to know where it all went wrong, and how to get back.
well if you have a corporate job then your company should have an human resources department. if that is the case, everyone at the company should have gone through some sort of harrassment/sexual harrassment class. your course of action here is to go to your boss with the information and get the HR department involved. if the employee never told you they were offended when you were doing your song then you may have a little edge there as that person never said anything to you about being offended. if they do fire you and give you no reason, you could possibly have a wrongful termination suit but you would have to consult with a lawyer on that. all i can say is, good luck and dont try to impress people at work anymore with your singing.
OP was bored, then came up with a song. He then wanted to post it here but figured he'd need some back story about the song, something good that would make people read his song. He then took it a step further, leaving people confused when his story didnt match his song.
So we were all sitting around chatting, and one guy was singing a song he made up of his, so i thought it would be a great time to impress people at my job with my made up song by adding a mixture of WoW having no idea this would make me a racist.. heres how it went No more melee, no more spell casting with desire, take me raiding..taking me higher with your speed. Im on fire...forget the naxxramas if you wanna see me.. cause im decked out in tier eight, you like? Forget your guild bank cause I need no money ..all i want is ..is your Ulduar!!! playing a resto shaman!!! is a new way of life to me!!, im just playing a resto shaman, come on baby raid with me!! we are playing a resto shaman!! its a new way to set me free!, im just playing a resto shaman, yes I wanna know! Yes I wanna see! Now were talking, all of it is on the line, with your tier nine...with desire, take me higher, push me higher with your mind..same old fire..forget the ulduar if you wanna see me,darkness and loneness out of the way, you like? Forget your guild bank cause i need no money, all I want is..is your Colosseum. Playing a resto shaman!! Is a new way of life to me..im just playing a resto shaman come on baby raid with me!! we are playing a resto shaman its a new way to set me free! im just playing a resto shaman, yes I wanna know...Yes I wanna see! Bam this guy at my job took offense, told my boss now there thinking of laying me off. What do i do?
In my experience you should never, never, never mix your professional and personal life. What happens at home stays at home, and what happens in the office stays in the office. Anything you say about yourself personally in the office can, and will, be used against you. If not by your boss, by your co-workers. And never, never, never trust your co-workers, they will sell you out in a heartbeat to get a leg up with the boss.
Never, never, never let your family go to the office Christmas party, or picnic. Somebody will corner them and start pumping them for information about how you really feel about certain co-workers, or about the job.
Never, never, never stay long at the office Chirstmas party or picnic. Matter of fact, I just don't go period. I don't like the office politics. Never, never, never drink alcohol either, get yourself a glass of Cola, and tell people who ask that it's rum and coke. Let them get snockered and run off their mouths, not you.
At my office we have "Leonard the spy". He comes up to you and says things like, "We were told to do this, it doesn't seem right to me, what do you think?" Within 30 seconds of telling him how you really feel, he is in the bosses office saying, "Olddaddy says you don't know what the hell your talking about, it will never work that way". Beware of these types of people, they owe their rise to ratting out their co-workers.
About the only thing that can save you now, is if your boss plays WOW.
On the other hand, if you have a non-para professional job, like at Walmart and Best Buy, don't sweat it, if you can pass the "pee in a cup" test you're better off than 90% of the other applicants.
EDIT: By the way, it doesn't need to be a minority ratting you out, anyone can. The minority might not even be offended. Oftentimes, it has nothing to do with race, it's all about the office politics and eliminating the competition. Sometimes it's about just getting your cubicle because it has a window view. Think of your job as free for all PvP with unrestricted looting. That's how your co-workers are thinking......
Perhaps if the OP wasn't goofing off at work making a dumb assed song, the bosses wouldn't have thought him to be a useless employee, and wouldn't have considered him 'layoff material'.
Lol qq more. Actually whites have it harder today because of the racist minorities crying about their rights. If a black/ethnic guy and a white guy have the same credentials for a job interview the black/ethic guy gets it. That sounds extremely racist.
Black/Latina miss America, wheres the white Miss America? Black schools, wheres the white schools?
Oh and the "I'm black/spanish/different I have it harder" routine doesn't work any more since we have a half non-white president so get off your ass and get a job. Also if you personalaly weren't a slave then you can't use that excuse either.
So in conclusion stop crying minorities, your lucky your even here and your being treated better then most white ppl that were born here.
For future reference when everyone wants to know where it all went wrong, and how to get back.
I agree with this completely, we should head back to where we made all those left turns.
We should repeal the civil rights act. It was much better when we could lynch black people.
We should repeal Medicare/medicaid, it was better when poor and old people died.
We should repeal women's right to vote; keep em in the kitchen and barefoot.
Lord how I miss the days where we could commit mass genocide upon Native American's without retribution.
And the Civil War, boy I want a slave badly - stupid liberal Republicans.
The of course, there was our very first liberal turn - I long for the days of being subjugated under a tyranical monarchy; we never should have left the Brittish Empire.
Those minorities are lucky that we enslaved them and brought them here; or subjugated and oppressed them for generations. Pure unadulterated luck. They should be thanking us. After all, what are they thinking? That these rights are inaliable endowed to them by their creator? How could we Americans possibly believe that?
The history of America is a history of left turns which have extended freedom and liberty, if you don't like it, what did you guys used to say....there's always Russia.
So we were all sitting around chatting, and one guy was singing a song he made up of his, so i thought it would be a great time to impress people at my job with my made up song by adding a mixture of WoW having no idea this would make me a racist.. heres how it went No more melee, no more spell casting with desire, take me raiding..taking me higher with your speed. Im on fire...forget the naxxramas if you wanna see me.. cause im decked out in tier eight, you like? Forget your guild bank cause I need no money ..all i want is ..is your Ulduar!!! playing a resto shaman!!! is a new way of life to me!!, im just playing a resto shaman, come on baby raid with me!! we are playing a resto shaman!! its a new way to set me free!, im just playing a resto shaman, yes I wanna know! Yes I wanna see! Now were talking, all of it is on the line, with your tier nine...with desire, take me higher, push me higher with your mind..same old fire..forget the ulduar if you wanna see me,darkness and loneness out of the way, you like? Forget your guild bank cause i need no money, all I want is..is your Colosseum. Playing a resto shaman!! Is a new way of life to me..im just playing a resto shaman come on baby raid with me!! we are playing a resto shaman its a new way to set me free! im just playing a resto shaman, yes I wanna know...Yes I wanna see! Bam this guy at my job took offense, told my boss now there thinking of laying me off. What do i do?
This has to be fake post. If it's not I really hope to never get a job there, come on has everyone lost there sense of humour I know the song is quite sad but is it gone that bad that a harassment case can be brought against you for being a nerd!
This world is pathetic. Someone got offended over that? No freakin' way. They're just looking for a lame excuse to can you. Maybe they don't like you, or they're just using you to get in good with the boss.
People get offended way too easily so often that half the time I'm sure it's bullshit. "I'm offended that there was a police officer in my house, even though it looked like I was breaking into it. I'll yell at him because he's a racist even though all he asked for was ID that I was the homeowner. Stupid white people!"
Well, now he gets beer with the President and a bunch of idiots think the police are racist.
Seriously, take some of the better advice presented earlier in this thread, like getting a lawyer, printing out the words, mediation, etc. And learn your lesson: Roll a Hunter.
I wouldn't blame them if they fired you OP. Only an idiot could make such a post (let alone come up with such a stupid song). Companies won't survive with employees like you. WTF. Idiocracy.
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Pray, and lawyer up quickly - because the stuff that happens in these cases will blow your mind. Reason and common sense fly out the window.
You have to make them fear a counter-suit for wrongful dismissal more one for discrimination. Suits for wrongful dismissal can reach upwards of $5 million.
It's actually fairly common.
Anti-discrimination / harassment law complaints are, in most jurisdictions, relatively cheap to make. Wrongful dismissal and particularly defamation counter-suits can be incredibly expensive to initiate.
So faced with situations like this, employers often take a heavy-handed approach to protect themselves against the more likely (because it's cheaper) complaint of vicarious harassment/discrimination.
OP said>>So we were all sitting around chatting, and one guy was singing a song he made up of his, so i thought it would be a great time to impress people at my job..
Well sound like to me there more than one person who heard you singing to..You better hope that they dont stick up for the other guy..
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Lol qq more. Actually whites have it harder today because of the racist minorities crying about their rights. If a black/ethnic guy and a white guy have the same credentials for a job interview the black/ethic guy gets it. That sounds extremely racist.
Black/Latina miss America, wheres the white Miss America?
Black schools, wheres the white schools?
Oh and the "I'm black/spanish/different I have it harder" routine doesn't work any more since we have a half non-white president so get off your ass and get a job. Also if you personalaly weren't a slave then you can't use that excuse either.
So in conclusion stop crying minorities, your lucky your even here and your being treated better then most white ppl that were born here.
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Fanbois = Carebears
The only posts I read in threads are my own.
I really couldn't find anything worth taking offence for in it, the guy probably just missunderstood you. Give your boss and the offended person a printout version and ask them what is the problem in it.
You might also consider getting a life, making songs about Wow is way beyond nerdy
Lol, guys this is obviously a troll post
Anyways back on topic, do as Haratu stated, get mediated with the offended and have your boss or manager be present. During this time, explain to the offended you were merely singing a song with references taken from an online game and did not mean to reference anything culturally or religiously to offend him. If your boss/supervisor agrees and whatnot there would really be no point in hiring a lawyer, unless you don't want to keep your job? :P
The moral of this story is: don't sing stupid songs about WoW at work, or anywhere else for that matter. Especially if you're part of the "corperate" world.
For future reference when everyone wants to know where it all went wrong, and how to get back.
"TO MICHAEL!"
well if you have a corporate job then your company should have an human resources department. if that is the case, everyone at the company should have gone through some sort of harrassment/sexual harrassment class. your course of action here is to go to your boss with the information and get the HR department involved. if the employee never told you they were offended when you were doing your song then you may have a little edge there as that person never said anything to you about being offended. if they do fire you and give you no reason, you could possibly have a wrongful termination suit but you would have to consult with a lawyer on that. all i can say is, good luck and dont try to impress people at work anymore with your singing.
OP was bored, then came up with a song. He then wanted to post it here but figured he'd need some back story about the song, something good that would make people read his song. He then took it a step further, leaving people confused when his story didnt match his song.
All in all, he's a troll.
In my experience you should never, never, never mix your professional and personal life. What happens at home stays at home, and what happens in the office stays in the office. Anything you say about yourself personally in the office can, and will, be used against you. If not by your boss, by your co-workers. And never, never, never trust your co-workers, they will sell you out in a heartbeat to get a leg up with the boss.
Never, never, never let your family go to the office Christmas party, or picnic. Somebody will corner them and start pumping them for information about how you really feel about certain co-workers, or about the job.
Never, never, never stay long at the office Chirstmas party or picnic. Matter of fact, I just don't go period. I don't like the office politics. Never, never, never drink alcohol either, get yourself a glass of Cola, and tell people who ask that it's rum and coke. Let them get snockered and run off their mouths, not you.
At my office we have "Leonard the spy". He comes up to you and says things like, "We were told to do this, it doesn't seem right to me, what do you think?" Within 30 seconds of telling him how you really feel, he is in the bosses office saying, "Olddaddy says you don't know what the hell your talking about, it will never work that way". Beware of these types of people, they owe their rise to ratting out their co-workers.
About the only thing that can save you now, is if your boss plays WOW.
On the other hand, if you have a non-para professional job, like at Walmart and Best Buy, don't sweat it, if you can pass the "pee in a cup" test you're better off than 90% of the other applicants.
EDIT: By the way, it doesn't need to be a minority ratting you out, anyone can. The minority might not even be offended. Oftentimes, it has nothing to do with race, it's all about the office politics and eliminating the competition. Sometimes it's about just getting your cubicle because it has a window view. Think of your job as free for all PvP with unrestricted looting. That's how your co-workers are thinking......
I think you should put something in writing as soon as possible.
Write up the words to the song in an easily followed format.
Then explain some of the terms in it, like what a 'raid' is. Explain that the term 'shaman' is used only in the context of the video game.
Explain that the game has no connection with any real world religion.
Then explain to your boss that your co-worker is a douchebag, and then take a dump in his coffee and quit your job.
Perhaps if the OP wasn't goofing off at work making a dumb assed song, the bosses wouldn't have thought him to be a useless employee, and wouldn't have considered him 'layoff material'.
God that song sucks AND blows. Don't give up the day job. Oh, you did, sort of!
Lol, this is the best reply of this thread. I'm surprised your co-worker didn't punch you in the face for singing such a gay song.
O_o o_O
Your first mistake was thinking a song about wow would impress anyone at your work. Your second was coming on mmorpg.com to look for legal advice.
You all missed the obvious solution.
Ask Obama to invite you and the offended party to the white house for a beer summit.
I think he was more offended that someone let u raid as a resto shammy...he prob plays a priest.
and whats the lesson?
never mix work and games
For future reference when everyone wants to know where it all went wrong, and how to get back.
I agree with this completely, we should head back to where we made all those left turns.
We should repeal the civil rights act. It was much better when we could lynch black people.
We should repeal Medicare/medicaid, it was better when poor and old people died.
We should repeal women's right to vote; keep em in the kitchen and barefoot.
Lord how I miss the days where we could commit mass genocide upon Native American's without retribution.
And the Civil War, boy I want a slave badly - stupid liberal Republicans.
The of course, there was our very first liberal turn - I long for the days of being subjugated under a tyranical monarchy; we never should have left the Brittish Empire.
Those minorities are lucky that we enslaved them and brought them here; or subjugated and oppressed them for generations. Pure unadulterated luck. They should be thanking us. After all, what are they thinking? That these rights are inaliable endowed to them by their creator? How could we Americans possibly believe that?
The history of America is a history of left turns which have extended freedom and liberty, if you don't like it, what did you guys used to say....there's always Russia.
This world is pathetic. Someone got offended over that? No freakin' way. They're just looking for a lame excuse to can you. Maybe they don't like you, or they're just using you to get in good with the boss.
People get offended way too easily so often that half the time I'm sure it's bullshit. "I'm offended that there was a police officer in my house, even though it looked like I was breaking into it. I'll yell at him because he's a racist even though all he asked for was ID that I was the homeowner. Stupid white people!"
Well, now he gets beer with the President and a bunch of idiots think the police are racist.
Seriously, take some of the better advice presented earlier in this thread, like getting a lawyer, printing out the words, mediation, etc. And learn your lesson: Roll a Hunter.
I wouldn't blame them if they fired you OP. Only an idiot could make such a post (let alone come up with such a stupid song). Companies won't survive with employees like you. WTF. Idiocracy.
My brain has 2 sides;Left and right. My left side has nothing right and my right side has nothing left...