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Need help deciding if AION is worth it or try something else
Hello everyone,
I did play in the past wow(quit after 2 years beeing bored), AOC(played for a month, quit cause of bugs etc), WAR(quit cause was boring).
My question is, people who played the beta or the asian version, is it better than Age of Conan is now? I will either start AION in september or go back to AOC.
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If i could rate both games;
AoC - 5/10
Aion - 9/10 with patch 1.5 it will probably be the most complete MMO on the market 10/10
AoC still needs that miracle patch to come along
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If you liked AoC other than the bugs. Then I would say try it out again as many bugs have been fixed there. Aion is not nearly as buggy or unifinished as AOC was, but it is still just like any other MMO. However AoC has change quite a bit, the gear and combos have been reworked.
Patch 1.5 is not even out in Korea yet and is something on the order of 2GB. According to reliable reports on Aionsource there are serious problem putting this patch out via download. This patch adds quite a bit of higher level content. I believe most Chinese servers have a level cap of 45, whereas Korea (and one chinese region) has patch 1.2 which is a level cap of 50.
So in other words while Aion is not in the state of AoC at release (and has not been as dishonest as AOC was IMO). It may have another few months to get into some kind of state you want it to be in.
Yes it is, stop speading lies ...it's been tested for well over month and recently went live. AoC never tested anything and the quality of their game suffered because of it.
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Yes it is, stop speading lies ...it's been tested for well over month and recently went live. AoC never tested anything and the quality of their game suffered because of it.
Yes please do stop telling lies . Here is a small quote and a link .
Aion will be launching with a maximum level of 50 -- and there was a bit of vocal inflection on the word "launching." Does this mean NCsoft plans on increasing the level cap at some point in the future? Speaking of launching, the North American and European community feedback has been extremely positive about Aion launching at version 1.5 -- the same version Korea is currently at.
link = http://www.massively.com/category/aion
as to the OP If you like PvEvP then yes this would be a good game to chose. It really is all up to you and your play style.
Played Aoc/DDO/FFXI/WAR / LoTRo / CO / Aion
Playing Rift
Waiting for FFXIV to be the game it should. so sad =(
Yes it is, stop speading lies ...it's been tested for well over month and recently went live. AoC never tested anything and the quality of their game suffered because of it.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/22103-facts-fiction-aion.html
As you can see by reading that post 1.5 will have level fifty but previous version of 1.0 which is what most of China has are in fact lvl 45.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/32275-korean-1-5-release-having-serious-issues.html
That is a thread created by the Admin of an established fan site siting the problem with the 1.5 download.
Anyone with a brain on this site knows who is less reliable here. I have sited my sources. You have thrown accusation just shown to be wrong. Game set match.
Wait and play the OB which will start in the beginning of Sept.
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All I can tell you is that I preordered and played last weekends beta event. Liked the game, held my interest, had that "just one more kill" before logging out felling and am looking forward the the Aug 14 event and launch. Game is on my best gaming machine, account is ready to be paid for after the 37 days they are giving me (30 for the game, 7 for preorder).
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
i'm going to try aion and champions online and decide which one i like better
Yes it is, stop speading lies ...it's been tested for well over month and recently went live. AoC never tested anything and the quality of their game suffered because of it.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/22103-facts-fiction-aion.html
As you can see by reading that post 1.5 will have level fifty but previous version of 1.0 which is what most of China has are in fact lvl 45.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/32275-korean-1-5-release-having-serious-issues.html
That is a thread created by the Admin of an established fan site siting the problem with the 1.5 download.
Anyone with a brain on this site knows who is less reliable here. I have sited my sources. You have thrown accusation just shown to be wrong. Game set match.
Didnt you say 1.5 isnt out yet ? Last i read on aionsource it is out but they are having download problems because of the size of it what other games do you know that release a 2gb patch shit SOE would make you pay for that as a mini expansion lol.
Anyways. Try the beta you can get a preorder key at gamestop for 5$ and not even buy the game and get your money back if you dont like it ( or order one online for 8$) but you dont get your $ back and you are essentially buying into beta. OR wait for open beta which NCwest has verified there will be one after CBT6 (08/14 to 17th) open beta could be anytime from the end of that to sep 20th. Id suspect open beta will be 1-2 weeks long though so probably see something near end of august and it will end a week before head start.
Also check youtube videos out the game has been out for a year in asia and there is no NDA for the NA/EU beta so you are able to get tons of content from these videos with no restrictions at all.
Yes it is, stop speading lies ...it's been tested for well over month and recently went live. AoC never tested anything and the quality of their game suffered because of it.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/22103-facts-fiction-aion.html
As you can see by reading that post 1.5 will have level fifty but previous version of 1.0 which is what most of China has are in fact lvl 45.
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/32275-korean-1-5-release-having-serious-issues.html
That is a thread created by the Admin of an established fan site siting the problem with the 1.5 download.
Anyone with a brain on this site knows who is less reliable here. I have sited my sources. You have thrown accusation just shown to be wrong. Game set match.
Didnt you say 1.5 isnt out yet ? Last i read on aionsource it is out but they are having download problems because of the size of it what other games do you know that release a 2gb patch shit SOE would make you pay for that as a mini expansion lol.
Anyways. Try the beta you can get a preorder key at gamestop for 5$ and not even buy the game and get your money back if you dont like it ( or order one online for 8$) but you dont get your $ back and you are essentially buying into beta. OR wait for open beta which NCwest has verified there will be one after CBT6 (08/14 to 17th) open beta could be anytime from the end of that to sep 20th. Id suspect open beta will be 1-2 weeks long though so probably see something near end of august and it will end a week before head start.
Also check youtube videos out the game has been out for a year in asia and there is no NDA for the NA/EU beta so you are able to get tons of content from these videos with no restrictions at all.
Fine 1.5 came out in Korea one day ago and won't be avaiable for play in NA until a month from now so I must have been lying.
Well, would be nice to know what kind of features / play style you prefer. WoW, AoC and Aion all have some unique features and gameplay elements which you may or may not like .
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I've become very skeptical about how Aion will turn out.
Like AoC and WAR, the beta experience can be pretty fun and compelling. The game looks great, the customization is second to none, the classes play well, etc...
However, the game world is fairly small by recent standards. The leveling curve is steep, which would be ok if there was plenty of fun, varied and rewarding content, but it appears there is a lot of grinding as you get higher and a very limited number of zones to play in.
The game is also very griefer friendly. Avoiding PvP is not as simple as forgoing the Abyss PvPvE zone. In the latest beta, some level 30 griefers were able to completely shut down the entire lvl 20 - 40 zone on one server, preventing anyone in the opposing faction from leveling much past level 20 for most of the weekend.
The Elyos faction levels faster than the Asmodian faction. Some believe that the Elyos having more kills required through their questing progression is to blame, but in my experience playing both factions, it's due to the Asmodian side having much bigger travel related time sinks involved with their quest progression. This has resulted in a lot of grief prone players who originally intended to play Asmodian switching to Elyos for the advantage.
The game shows much potential. Some may like it, flaws and all. For me, it's another disappointing entry in the genre that could have been great, but falls short in some key areas. It might be worth a month or two of play while waiting for something else to come along. I'll be giving the Champions beta a spin and if I like it, I might skip Aion entirely, which is a shame, because there is much to like.
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If you play Lineage2 you will get a very good feeling on what Aion is like. Better graphics, stuff flies, underwater walking and thats it.
Ah.. and female models do seem to be coming from a Victorias Secret Show.
This is fixed in 1.5 with the Slayer system.
This is fixed in 1.5 with the Slayer system.
No it wasn't. Go read up on the Slayer System again. For now it isn't a "fix". The problem isn't just going to go away. The Slayer System introduced a control the can have a small impact on griefers. It will help the lower levels getting harassed by 10+ levels but will not eliminate the problem.
However in later days it might prove to be a nasty beast.
I've only played the 5th closed beta event so far and I had a lot of fun, raising three characters to level 12 each. I'm definitely willing to wait and see what the actual release of the game will bring, how things will change etc. So i'm going to play through the first 30 days and see how things go.
This is fixed in 1.5 with the Slayer system.
No it wasn't. Go read up on the Slayer System again. For now it isn't a "fix". The problem isn't just going to go away. The Slayer System introduced a control the can have a small impact on griefers. It will help the lower levels getting harassed by 10+ levels but will not eliminate the problem.
However in later days it might prove to be a nasty beast.
Not really - the slayer system definitely stops a lot of the ganking... not to mention, if it DOES happen it won't be for long. Players of that faction aren't just going to sit by and watch lowbies being ganked over and over... its a WAR between the two factions... and the way Aion is designed it'll be much more hatred between the two compared to most MMOs IMHO.
I think the system is great... personally I love it and I don't like being ganked anymore than the next person. I don't like getting my ship blown up in EVE either.... but it doesn't stop me from playing and loving the game....
You just kind of proved my point while saying I'm wrong Cammy.
The Slayer system will have a greater impact on the larger level gaps but will not stop it, since as you said, it is what the game is DESIGNED for. Getting flagged (title showiing and map marked) and having the ability to rez at kiosk taken away isn't a very strong deterrent from fighting a different faction.
Yes it will forestall PROLONGED griefing, but like I said, it helps minimize and control it, not stop it.
Ok cool - we are on the same page then
I must have misunderstood your original post.
Completely agree... there will still be ganking and problems in those zones but IMO it'll be few and far between. Personally I love that risk, but I can see how it isn't for everyone (and those people should honestly just recognize that and move on instead of trying to change the fundamentals of an already great game)
Not to compare it to WoW, but since that was the last game I played (and was in a pretty progressed guild) it was on a PVE server, but we would always invade cities (an alliance guild almost our caliber was in cahoots and we spoke on each other's msg boards frequently) and encourage world pvp. I do like pvp but do not like griefing since it isn't necessarily consensual. Do I have a bleeding heart though? Not at all lol. I don't spawn camp but I am also not afraid to kill a few people or get noticed, and take deaths in good faith also.
Holding down a choke point so low levels cannot enjoy the game thus needing to reroll a diff faction to survive is a bit pointless and juvenile in my book, and is not to my taste at all. But playing in the Abyss and making sure that other team cannot kill a boss? I'm all for that. I love the creativity needed for that. Even doing dailies or whatever quests, pvp server or pvp flagged on pve, I didn't grief people, but would INVITE such actions, because well, it's fun and changes the monotony of things.
The point to me, and why this game really appeals to me, is even if you need to grind to gain levels, everyday should be different. Whether you get ganked, griefed, or do the ganking or griefing. Even if you are let alone.
I agree pretty much with your entire post.
The part I underlined... won't be a problem on live. I agree - its a big issue right now... but with the slayer system and people "not being bored" because they'll be leveling to 50... it really won't be an issue. I remember WoW Wayyy back in the day... and it had problems like this too. There was no end game content, and players would camp out in places like Ashenvale just to gank lowbies over and over...
So, while its an issue right now it wont be in the near future... NCSoft won't let choke points like that be over ran to the point people cant play.... I think they are two very separate issues.
Yeah. Exactly. Like you mentioned EVE earlier. When I played that I would LOVE to go see the bigass battles (I only played the trial so had tiny ass ships) and even would myself get ganked.. but I wanted to get close to the bloodshed. It's simply a price to pay.
If you want all the game has to offer, you are going to get wet, but if you really want to pay to avoid such problems, your money isn't going to go far.
I don't mean to sound harsh but you are actually going to go on other people's word? Look, you can have a yellow circle and can ask 500 people here what color it is and you will most likely get almost 500 different answers (work with me its a simple analogy). It's like everyone telling you vanilla ice cream is the absolute best even when you hate it.
There is supposedly only one beta test phase left so go plunk down five bucks on a pre order and check it out. I will tell you it isn't for me as it's the same old generic grind with pretty graphics. Not to mention the game uses Game Guard and I don't subscribe to Malware bullshit. However, you would be foolish to take my opinion as well; its just one's opinion.
Threads like these make no sense to me honestly. I am not trying to be mean to you in any way but for the love of Mike learn to make decisions on your own. Use free will and stop being a slave. Viva revolution!
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I'd be realistic in what you can expect to get out of an mmo rpg. Most of the Aion game is in playing a character through the leveling part game. After that you come into their endgame which is PvPvE. In total I'd expect maybe a couple of months of enjoyable gaming from both of these combined, after that many will probably quit because they'e seen most of what there is to be seen or it simply wasn't the game for them. I wouldn't be upset in that, it's the experience of many who play these games. I'd just be a pragmatist and as soon as the game gets dull and you've done most of it move on. Repetition and dealing with other players eventually kills a mmo rpg for most.
I personally would play Aion over AoC. However, I'm having a tough time comparing Aion to AoC, so I'll just state my "feelings" regarding Aion, AoC, and other subscription MMOs that I've played.
I had a lot more fun playing Aion beta than AoC release. Outside of logs that are still work in progress for localization, the quality and polish of Aion is just on a higher level compared to AoC.
Aion frustrations for me are along the lines of "Ugh, I died again!", but AoC frustrations for me were along the lines of "Ugh, they seriously haven't fixed this yet?".
I enjoyed the atmosphere in Aion's community, which reminded me of Guild Wars, more than the atmosphere in AoC's community, which reminded me of Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.
However, Aion gameplay mechanics are a lot like other recent popular MMOs, but AoC has gameplay that can be called it's own. I would play AoC over Aion if I absolutely can't tolerate playing a MMO that makes me feel like I've played it before.
I didn't look forward to anything at launch when I played AoC beta. I'm looking forward to Abyss, raid bosses, and upcoming crafting recipes in Aion. Nonetheless, I didn't regret buying AoC, so I'm sure I won't regret buying Aion.