Best: Eve Online. Very helpful and friendly community(obviously not friendly when if you go to unprotected systems) and the learning curve gets rid of undecired types Sure there's people bitching like children when they die, but it's definately not worse than any other game and pretty good considering it's a pvp game.
Worst: I used to have this spot for WoW, but Darkfall wins it by a miles now. It's really really really bad. PvP is more smacktalk than pvp and the number of mechanics that can be abused has lured a lot of idiots in. Noobs are slaughtered and abused just because people can, protective systems are highly flawed and tend to protect pk'ers. Harassment is almost a daily occurence inside cities.
Best: EQ2 (Lucan D'Lere server - turn off 1-9 chat!), Istaria (although I didn't play for long, the community was pretty amazing), and DAOC (Gaheris server)
Worst: WoW, SWG (but I still enjoyed them both for a short while)
Originally posted by Papadam Best: WAR is probably the most anti-social MMO I have played, no one ever speaks. AoC was simillar but atleast you get some insults and profanites after being ganked...
I noticed during beta and when the game went live that there wasn't a lot of game chatter in War, I attribute that to the communication system in War where you could only talk to people within a certain range. I suppose I could be part of that none talking community as our Guild pretty much just grouped with each other and most of our conversation was on Vent and or between each other in Guild/Group Chat.
The Old Timers Guild Laid back, not so serious, no drama. All about the fun!
www.oldtimersguild.com An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. - Jef Mallett
I loved the game. The PvP was magnificent, and the people I met were great. Those who were more interested in the PvE side of the game were some of the most helpful people I have ever met in an MMO. They really made you feel like part of a family. The same is true about some of the PvPers I met. I had some great times PvPing, and had some great friends there too. But in the same aspect of the game, I met some of the most horrific people ever. People who would make you cringe just from the crap they said.
So, it was a double edged sword. It had aspects of the best community I've ever seen, and the worst, all rolled into one.
Best: Star Wars Galaxies, a long time ago in a land far far away when SWG first came out it was rather wonderful.
Worst: Eve Online, sure there are some polite people around but they seem to be the exception to the rule. Never seen a game where it seems to be encouraged to be the biggest a$$ you can be.
You aren't kidding about EVE. its a bitch to find decent people. If you need a laugh, listen in to the public 'CEO' channel. THere are a handful of nerds in there who actually think they are badasses lol its like a biker bar for nerds. pathetic! lol
Favorite Community: FFXI - the game requires grouping, and jerks quickly run out of people who will group with them.
Worst Community - I will NOT say EVE. Dispite what i said up top, there are good people in the game. WoW, is loaded with a massive amount of morons. Even the game mechanics rewards anti-socialism. When you finally have to group...its like forcing a bunch of loaners to work together.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone www.spankybus.com -3d Artist & Compositor -Writer -Professional Amature
The best community I was a part of is CoH...hands down the most helpful, outgoing, non-snooty, and fun living group I've ever gamed with.
The worst community had to be WAR. In my entire two month stay, nobody said word one.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Best - LOTRO it was by far the best community. Ranging from attitude to community events. Everyone is very helpful, and yes you still had people that were just rude.
Worst - WOW You have great people and asshats. Unfortunally asshats were > nice people. No one had patience or would help anyone unless it benefited them 100% Thier attitudes are the same likeon these forums. Someone else said this and I aggree 100%
Ill jump on the "cool kids" bandwagon and say WoW has the worse community because you know I've played on all 200 or so of my region servers... no sorry I've played 3 of em but thats enough to lable all players right? and every 1 shouts out "chuck norris" jokes... oh wait sorry that stopped in 2005... every one ninja loots... oh wait wait I tell a lie from my own 4 year experience I have never been a group with some one ninja looting... every one is 8 years old... oh wait somtimes I play up to the early hours around 2-3am and the servers are still packed.
In all seriousness I didin't need to open this thread to know WoW would labeled as the worst... price it pays for being the most played MMO I guess. Your all entitled to your opinons but for me WoW is just fine community wise, not too serious and can have a bit of fun.
Worst community and for the only reason no one talked was WAR.. for the short month I played it.
WORST: Ultima Online - Why: From bank sitters creating lag to the a$$holes who stabbed everyone else in their backs, birthplace of scammers, hackers, exploiters, bullsh!ters and every other worthless scum on the face of this planet, Good Rithens UO.
BEST: Star Wars Galaxies - Why: On SWG first intial launch the community was great, easy to make friends and group with, most helpful, first two months of launch PvP was the most fun until the hacks and exploits came out overall still a blast
lol me as well..i have yet to meet a community worse than SZ server ..i look at the servers ive played on WoW as a joke compare to the crap that would happen on SZ , but at the sametime it was the most awesome community lol
people would of had to play on SZ to understand lol
just spent 20 minutes googling that server and reading up on it. I stopped once i got to the 50yr old pedophile who multiboxes and hires prostitutes....
I remember that guy. He had six boxes IIRC so he could have a full group without anyone else. He used to talk on the forums about hiring (adult female) prostitutes. You must have decided to add that pedo bit in yourself... which implies your comment was intended as a kind of indirect flame... which implies you spent 20 minutes of your life looking for some material for a pathetic little indirect flame... and came up with that.
My turn.
as for the thread:
Best: toss up between Ryzom and Lotro. Ryzom was just filled with helpful people.
Ryzom's that game where one of the races looks like little kids isn't it?
Lotro because people seemed so nice and welcoming...and every guild i have been in (4 so far) have been the friendliest guilds i have come across in any game.
Four guilds huh - were they all friendly enough to help you out with lots of gear before you quit for the next one?
actually i stumbled across a charge laid against him for having sex with an underage girl. It was posted on some site filled with Zek fanboi's (quite a scary place).
Guilds wise: 1st one i left because i left the game (many moons ago, for AoC). 2nd one fell apart after the leaders left the game. 3rd one i was on a trial account at the time and was just looking for some company. 4th one (current one) is full of awesome people.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Best early EQ and early DAoC, in both these games at least early on there was a since of comradarie amongst the community that I havnt seen in a game since, LotRO gets an honorable mention.
Worst it has to be between WoW and AoC, which is a complete shame becuase as games both are pretty darnned good IMO.
Ill jump on the "cool kids" bandwagon and say WoW has the worse community because you know I've played on all 200 or so of my region servers... no sorry I've played 3 of em but thats enough to lable all players right? and every 1 shouts out "chuck norris" jokes... oh wait sorry that stopped in 2005... every one ninja loots... oh wait wait I tell a lie from my own 4 year experience I have never been a group with some one ninja looting... every one is 8 years old... oh wait somtimes I play up to the early hours around 2-3am and the servers are still packed. In all seriousness I didin't need to open this thread to know WoW would labeled as the worst... price it pays for being the most played MMO I guess. Your all entitled to your opinons but for me WoW is just fine community wise, not too serious and can have a bit of fun. Worst community and for the only reason no one talked was WAR.. for the short month I played it.
I tried WoW again just last year and people were still doing the same old bullshit with the Chuck Norris jokes and the even more nauseating "add murloc into the movie topic" thing. As for ninjalooting it was still around but no matter which game you play you're going to run across those types of greedy bastards.
As for worst community, I'll have to agree with you on Warhammer. While I did enjoy the PvP aspect of the game from a gameplay standpoint until T4 the amount of assholes you could encounter especially in scenarios was mindboggling at times. You really have to wonder at times if people were that miserable or unhappy with others they were playing with why the hell they were still around. Of course, there were times you would run across some really cool people and have a great time but the negativity of some-amazingly at times even in scenarios you were winning was just astounding to me. Outside of scenarios or RVR chat was dead too. At least as annoying as the likes of WoW can be t times there are people active-saying something at least for god's sake.
As for best community: EQ for me, never seen one as helpful and friendly as that one although LotR does come close.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
The best community I have seen in my gaming history would have to be CoH/CoV. Everyone was very helpful when I first started. Did plenty of missions with some of the nicest and most intelligent people I have seen. Not to mention how abundant it has been.
The worst was definitly WoW. PUGs were awful, market economy was inflated, and nobody was truly experienced. The most annoying of the memories was the overflow of cheap, moronic jokes in General/Trade chat. E.X. Chuck Norris jokes, Harry Potter and the <link conspicuous item here>, and the infamous anal <link spell name here>.
Currently playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft, Dota 2, League of Legends
Waiting on: Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Kingdoms of Amular, Firefall
Best Community: Everquest - Why? Because they had good players, it was about a team effort
Worst Community: WoW - Why? Because like the OP said, its about the me me mentallity and they the people that should of never played mmos to begin with.
Worst Community - EQ. Killstealers, trainers, and ninja looters galore. Oasis chat = Barrens chat. People charged for buffs, rezzes, and other things that were easy to hand out. This made for selfish people unwilling to help anyone. I think all the jerks in EQ made a nice home in WoW(which would be EQ's successor in douche's per sq. mile).
Best Community - DAoC. Just awesome people that used to play that game. Most people always lent a hand. Drive by rezzes if you died, and used to get buffed all the time.
Worst Community - EQ. Killstealers, trainers, and ninja looters galore. Oasis chat = Barrens chat. People charged for buffs, rezzes, and other things that were easy to hand out. This made for selfish people unwilling to help anyone. I think all the jerks in EQ made a nice home in WoW(which would be EQ's successor in douche's per sq. mile). Best Community - DAoC. Just awesome people that used to play that game. Most people always lent a hand. Drive by rezzes if you died, and used to get buffed all the time.
Hehe ya I remember charging for rezzes on my cleric which was my first toon to hit 50.PRE KUNARK.. It would be amazing I would get about average 10 to 20 tells an hour of people asking me if I would travel across the game world to rez them. Now if someone was in the same zone as me and I was hunting.. I would get tells asking if they could get their corpses to me if I would rez them and I was like sure. Then I wouldnt charge for a rez.. but usually people would donate.
What you might not have realized is that some of our buffs actually cost us EXPENSIVE gems to cast.. That is one of the reasons people would donate or we would charge..
One of my friend who played a druid had to stay anon or Roleplay so he wouldnt get 20 to 50 tells an hour with people asking if not begging for ports...
I actually liked the fact that classes in EQ had abilities that were unique to their class and helpful outside of combat.. I think most games are missing those utility types of spells these days in favor of what some would say balance... But many of those abilities are what make fantasy worlds magical. And like ANY service provided dont see a reason why you cant decide to make a profit off of it.. IF its a service thats in demand.
Also many of the spells in EQ at higher level were EXTREMELY hard to come by. It wasnt like in most modern games when at all levels you just go to the local trainer and train up. I knew people who would take donations for KEI in Plane of Knowledge so that they could make money to buy the spells they needed off of players who had them for sell because they were expensive..
Community though is not the same as Economy. EQ1 had a VERY VERY vibrant Economy. There were not only tradeskills but actual class skills that could be sold.. I actually loved that aspect of the game.
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Best: Eve Online. Very helpful and friendly community(obviously not friendly when if you go to unprotected systems) and the learning curve gets rid of undecired types
Sure there's people bitching like children when they die, but it's definately not worse than any other game and pretty good considering it's a pvp game.
Worst: I used to have this spot for WoW, but Darkfall wins it by a miles now. It's really really really bad. PvP is more smacktalk than pvp and the number of mechanics that can be abused has lured a lot of idiots in. Noobs are slaughtered and abused just because people can, protective systems are highly flawed and tend to protect pk'ers. Harassment is almost a daily occurence inside cities.
Best: EQ2 (Lucan D'Lere server - turn off 1-9 chat!), Istaria (although I didn't play for long, the community was pretty amazing), and DAOC (Gaheris server)
Worst: WoW, SWG (but I still enjoyed them both for a short while)
Best-UO
Worst-WoW
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I noticed during beta and when the game went live that there wasn't a lot of game chatter in War, I attribute that to the communication system in War where you could only talk to people within a certain range. I suppose I could be part of that none talking community as our Guild pretty much just grouped with each other and most of our conversation was on Vent and or between each other in Guild/Group Chat.
The Old Timers Guild
Laid back, not so serious, no drama.
All about the fun!
www.oldtimersguild.com
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. - Jef Mallett
The best community in my experience of MMORPGing was.
Everquest, Anarchy Online and Star Wars Galaxies (between the years of 2001 to 2005)
The worst community in my experience of MMORPGing was.
World of Warcraft from 2005 to present, however what do you expect a game that caters to 6 year olds and up.
Ragnarok Online (closed/open beta) community was one of the best I've been part of - also FFXI.
Best: Asheron's Call 1's PvE community
Worst: Asheron's Call 1 PvP community
I loved the game. The PvP was magnificent, and the people I met were great. Those who were more interested in the PvE side of the game were some of the most helpful people I have ever met in an MMO. They really made you feel like part of a family. The same is true about some of the PvPers I met. I had some great times PvPing, and had some great friends there too. But in the same aspect of the game, I met some of the most horrific people ever. People who would make you cringe just from the crap they said.
So, it was a double edged sword. It had aspects of the best community I've ever seen, and the worst, all rolled into one.
Best Community is easily FFXI Great people on that game.
Worst Community WoW no doubt.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
Best: Star Wars Galaxies, a long time ago in a land far far away when SWG first came out it was rather wonderful.
Worst: Eve Online, sure there are some polite people around but they seem to be the exception to the rule. Never seen a game where it seems to be encouraged to be the biggest a$$ you can be.
You aren't kidding about EVE. its a bitch to find decent people. If you need a laugh, listen in to the public 'CEO' channel. THere are a handful of nerds in there who actually think they are badasses lol its like a biker bar for nerds. pathetic! lol
Favorite Community: FFXI - the game requires grouping, and jerks quickly run out of people who will group with them.
Worst Community - I will NOT say EVE. Dispite what i said up top, there are good people in the game. WoW, is loaded with a massive amount of morons. Even the game mechanics rewards anti-socialism. When you finally have to group...its like forcing a bunch of loaners to work together.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature
Best I would say is probably FFXI, pratically everything in that game is socializing with other people. Second best would be EQ2. Worst would be WoW.
The best community I was a part of is CoH...hands down the most helpful, outgoing, non-snooty, and fun living group I've ever gamed with.
The worst community had to be WAR. In my entire two month stay, nobody said word one.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Best - LOTRO it was by far the best community. Ranging from attitude to community events. Everyone is very helpful, and yes you still had people that were just rude.
Worst - WOW You have great people and asshats. Unfortunally asshats were > nice people. No one had patience or would help anyone unless it benefited them 100% Thier attitudes are the same likeon these forums. Someone else said this and I aggree 100%
Ill jump on the "cool kids" bandwagon and say WoW has the worse community because you know I've played on all 200 or so of my region servers... no sorry I've played 3 of em but thats enough to lable all players right? and every 1 shouts out "chuck norris" jokes... oh wait sorry that stopped in 2005... every one ninja loots... oh wait wait I tell a lie from my own 4 year experience I have never been a group with some one ninja looting... every one is 8 years old... oh wait somtimes I play up to the early hours around 2-3am and the servers are still packed.
In all seriousness I didin't need to open this thread to know WoW would labeled as the worst... price it pays for being the most played MMO I guess. Your all entitled to your opinons but for me WoW is just fine community wise, not too serious and can have a bit of fun.
Worst community and for the only reason no one talked was WAR.. for the short month I played it.
WORST: Ultima Online - Why: From bank sitters creating lag to the a$$holes who stabbed everyone else in their backs, birthplace of scammers, hackers, exploiters, bullsh!ters and every other worthless scum on the face of this planet, Good Rithens UO.
BEST: Star Wars Galaxies - Why: On SWG first intial launch the community was great, easy to make friends and group with, most helpful, first two months of launch PvP was the most fun until the hacks and exploits came out overall still a blast
lol me as well..i have yet to meet a community worse than SZ server ..i look at the servers ive played on WoW as a joke compare to the crap that would happen on SZ , but at the sametime it was the most awesome community lol
people would of had to play on SZ to understand lol
just spent 20 minutes googling that server and reading up on it. I stopped once i got to the 50yr old pedophile who multiboxes and hires prostitutes....
I remember that guy. He had six boxes IIRC so he could have a full group without anyone else. He used to talk on the forums about hiring (adult female) prostitutes. You must have decided to add that pedo bit in yourself... which implies your comment was intended as a kind of indirect flame... which implies you spent 20 minutes of your life looking for some material for a pathetic little indirect flame... and came up with that.
My turn.
as for the thread:
Best: toss up between Ryzom and Lotro. Ryzom was just filled with helpful people.
Ryzom's that game where one of the races looks like little kids isn't it?
Lotro because people seemed so nice and welcoming...and every guild i have been in (4 so far) have been the friendliest guilds i have come across in any game.
Four guilds huh - were they all friendly enough to help you out with lots of gear before you quit for the next one?
actually i stumbled across a charge laid against him for having sex with an underage girl. It was posted on some site filled with Zek fanboi's (quite a scary place).
Guilds wise: 1st one i left because i left the game (many moons ago, for AoC). 2nd one fell apart after the leaders left the game. 3rd one i was on a trial account at the time and was just looking for some company. 4th one (current one) is full of awesome people.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Best early EQ and early DAoC, in both these games at least early on there was a since of comradarie amongst the community that I havnt seen in a game since, LotRO gets an honorable mention.
Worst it has to be between WoW and AoC, which is a complete shame becuase as games both are pretty darnned good IMO.
Godz of War I call Thee
I tried WoW again just last year and people were still doing the same old bullshit with the Chuck Norris jokes and the even more nauseating "add murloc into the movie topic" thing. As for ninjalooting it was still around but no matter which game you play you're going to run across those types of greedy bastards.
As for worst community, I'll have to agree with you on Warhammer. While I did enjoy the PvP aspect of the game from a gameplay standpoint until T4 the amount of assholes you could encounter especially in scenarios was mindboggling at times. You really have to wonder at times if people were that miserable or unhappy with others they were playing with why the hell they were still around. Of course, there were times you would run across some really cool people and have a great time but the negativity of some-amazingly at times even in scenarios you were winning was just astounding to me. Outside of scenarios or RVR chat was dead too. At least as annoying as the likes of WoW can be t times there are people active-saying something at least for god's sake.
As for best community: EQ for me, never seen one as helpful and friendly as that one although LotR does come close.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I have answered these kinds of posts before. The answer will always be the same I'm afraid.
BEST : City of Heroes/Villains
Why? It just is. Trial the game, and learn.
WORST: Silkroad.
Probably because it didn't exist, due to all the botting and PKing
Best : Ryzom, COH
Worst : War, FF XI
The best community I have seen in my gaming history would have to be CoH/CoV. Everyone was very helpful when I first started. Did plenty of missions with some of the nicest and most intelligent people I have seen. Not to mention how abundant it has been.
The worst was definitly WoW. PUGs were awful, market economy was inflated, and nobody was truly experienced. The most annoying of the memories was the overflow of cheap, moronic jokes in General/Trade chat. E.X. Chuck Norris jokes, Harry Potter and the <link conspicuous item here>, and the infamous anal <link spell name here>.
Currently playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft, Dota 2, League of Legends
Waiting on: Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Kingdoms of Amular, Firefall
Best Community: Everquest - Why? Because they had good players, it was about a team effort
Worst Community: WoW - Why? Because like the OP said, its about the me me mentallity and they the people that should of never played mmos to begin with.
worst community, Tyranny server Age of Conan (cimmeria server is much better)
best: meneldor Lotro
Worst Community - EQ. Killstealers, trainers, and ninja looters galore. Oasis chat = Barrens chat. People charged for buffs, rezzes, and other things that were easy to hand out. This made for selfish people unwilling to help anyone. I think all the jerks in EQ made a nice home in WoW(which would be EQ's successor in douche's per sq. mile).
Best Community - DAoC. Just awesome people that used to play that game. Most people always lent a hand. Drive by rezzes if you died, and used to get buffed all the time.
Hehe ya I remember charging for rezzes on my cleric which was my first toon to hit 50.PRE KUNARK.. It would be amazing I would get about average 10 to 20 tells an hour of people asking me if I would travel across the game world to rez them. Now if someone was in the same zone as me and I was hunting.. I would get tells asking if they could get their corpses to me if I would rez them and I was like sure. Then I wouldnt charge for a rez.. but usually people would donate.
What you might not have realized is that some of our buffs actually cost us EXPENSIVE gems to cast.. That is one of the reasons people would donate or we would charge..
One of my friend who played a druid had to stay anon or Roleplay so he wouldnt get 20 to 50 tells an hour with people asking if not begging for ports...
I actually liked the fact that classes in EQ had abilities that were unique to their class and helpful outside of combat.. I think most games are missing those utility types of spells these days in favor of what some would say balance... But many of those abilities are what make fantasy worlds magical. And like ANY service provided dont see a reason why you cant decide to make a profit off of it.. IF its a service thats in demand.
Also many of the spells in EQ at higher level were EXTREMELY hard to come by. It wasnt like in most modern games when at all levels you just go to the local trainer and train up. I knew people who would take donations for KEI in Plane of Knowledge so that they could make money to buy the spells they needed off of players who had them for sell because they were expensive..
Community though is not the same as Economy. EQ1 had a VERY VERY vibrant Economy. There were not only tradeskills but actual class skills that could be sold.. I actually loved that aspect of the game.