I didnt read every single post in this thread, but i snapped out some things which i just HAVE to comment on. People keep saying its a "copy" or wow, or any other mmo. But jesus.. its called EVOLUTION. Which works in that order that you take an already existing beeing/game (w/e) and improve it. And its sad to see that people bashing something just because its much like something else, then you really havent given it a chance yourself. Altho its definately not 100% that the "improvement" always works.
My thought is that if it was a copy of wow i would already be playing wow.
I mean, why play a copy when I can get the original, polished blizzard product, all their support and updates, their fan gatherings, a game you know will be around for a while, etc.
But I don't play WoW. Though I have played it, I have one character that was made the day the game launched and is a whopping lvl 30+ which shows how much time I've put into the game over the years .
However I DO want to avidly play Aion. so obviously there is enough that is different.
It's all in the mix and how these features are blended together.
Great point! And I actually have 3 max level characters so this is coming from the perspective from an avid but recently retired WoW player. Aion has the foundation of a truly great game! I'm really excited about it and that is hard to do especially with some of the recent over-hyped failures I have seen lately. Aion is unique in many different ways and while anyone can say they see similarities between games, this is by no means a "WoW clone". It looks nothing like WoW, in fact, omg it actually has an awesome character customization model and the graphics are stunning. The combat is nothing like WoW and is intuitive and the chains are a great idea since it allows so much more space in your bars during game play. There are several cut scenes during your quests, etc.
So please go take that WoW clone nonesense somewhere else. It's overdone and tired.
Hard to be done since 99% of the enw games are getting threads that are wow clones even Champions online which is a SUPERHERO game aka comics lmao
After playing the beta for a while, I ended up decided not to pre-order, Aion to me is nothing more than another world of warcraft clone that just looks nicer, as a added bonus we get a lame korean typical mmorpg grind too Yippie!. My Main beef with Aion is the fact that its a WoW clone, and moreso that the game has nothing what-so-ever that is new or unique. Some people say a npc race, but, thats been done 8 years ago by DAoC. Honestly though, what does Aion have to offer to attract me to buy it? I hated WoW and how it was setup. Aion reminds me too much of a mmorpg for dummies, with all skills and stats being done for you. The crafting system probally blows like it does in most korean devoloped(sp?) mmo's with ludicris material requirements and a sky-high fail rate. I Suspect Aion will do fine though, Hell Lineage 2 is still kicking, Before that Anarchy online is 10 or 11 years old and they just recently added a new expansion. Anyway, I may reconsider if.. well, anyway I can use the orignal voices? Most english game dubs suck horribly, and I have a feeling Aion is another. For me gameplay > graphics and so far, Aion fails to deliver on gameplay. Does it get better later? or is it the same herded like sheep to the next quest hub system WoW uses?
Did you actually play the beta at all? Since you seem to know nothing at all of the crafting system and are merely speculating. The crafting system is nothing like what you say, maybe you should have tried it during close beta, but it seems you did not even play closed beta because you have no argument against the game apart from it being a WoW "clone", which in all certainty it is not.
Did you play DaoC by the way? Please name the NPC race, since I remember there being 3 factions that fought each other when I played, do not remember any NPC race like the Balaur.
Anarchy Online was not developed by a Korean company as well as it is not 10-11 years old. The only MMO that old is Ultima Online.
Lastly your english is very poor and you have no excuse for it. Most of your criticism is void of valid arguments and devoid as well of correct grammar as well as correct spelling.
My suggestion is do not post useless and ludicrous "arguments" about why you will not play the game. Frankly, no one of cares if you will or not.
I sware can someone come up with something more orignal then "this is a wow clone" or "this game sucks" thread seriously everytime a new game comes out this is what happens. I can almost guarntee when STO, KoTR, or FF14 goes into beta this will come back up again. Hell When Blizz finally reveals there new IP I know it will happen, it just comes down to people need something to bitch about....wait i just answered my own post
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
After playing the beta for a while, I ended up decided not to pre-order, Aion to me is nothing more than another world of warcraft clone that just looks nicer, as a added bonus we get a lame korean typical mmorpg grind too Yippie!. My Main beef with Aion is the fact that its a WoW clone, and moreso that the game has nothing what-so-ever that is new or unique. Some people say a npc race, but, thats been done 8 years ago by DAoC. Honestly though, what does Aion have to offer to attract me to buy it? I hated WoW and how it was setup. Aion reminds me too much of a mmorpg for dummies, with all skills and stats being done for you. The crafting system probally blows like it does in most korean devoloped(sp?) mmo's with ludicris material requirements and a sky-high fail rate. I Suspect Aion will do fine though, Hell Lineage 2 is still kicking, Before that Anarchy online is 10 or 11 years old and they just recently added a new expansion. Anyway, I may reconsider if.. well, anyway I can use the orignal voices? Most english game dubs suck horribly, and I have a feeling Aion is another. For me gameplay > graphics and so far, Aion fails to deliver on gameplay. Does it get better later? or is it the same herded like sheep to the next quest hub system WoW uses?
Did you actually play the beta at all? Since you seem to know nothing at all of the crafting system and are merely speculating. The crafting system is nothing like what you say, maybe you should have tried it during close beta, but it seems you did not even play closed beta because you have no argument against the game apart from it being a WoW "clone", which in all certainty it is not.
Did you play DaoC by the way? Please name the NPC race, since I remember there being 3 factions that fought each other when I played, do not remember any NPC race like the Balaur.
Anarchy Online was not developed by a Korean company as well as it is not 10-11 years old. The only MMO that old is Ultima Online.
Lastly your english is very poor and you have no excuse for it. Most of your criticism is void of valid arguments and devoid as well of correct grammar as well as correct spelling.
My suggestion is do not post useless and ludicrous "arguments" about why you will not play the game. Frankly, no one of cares if you will or not.
Regards,
R
I also have my doubts . A lot of it sounds like what i was hearing from anti-aion fans in WoW just before i left that game after playing for 4 years . A lot of what i heard in general chat is the same old thing that there was no way they would play it because it looked too asian or was a grindfest . When asked very few had played the beta or when they said they had and were questioned further about content they obviously did nt know the first thing about it . Either they did nt know what class , faction or even what server they had been playing it on . The same was true of the people that said they d played the asian release in wow ( and age of conan for that matter ) . This game has got fans the mmorpg world in a stir across the board . Most of my Lord of the Rings Kinship are joining it . Several friends from AoC and a lot of people that played Warcraft at one time or still do that I ve kept in contact . I never did like the phrase WoWkiller because its hard to see how any game could finnish it off but this one certainly has the potential to cause it significant injury .
Thats why we are getting all these threads from people that have never played the beta . They are worried . If you look for every one of them saying its just an asian grinder there are ten of us saying it not . That speaks volumes .
I didnt read every single post in this thread, but i snapped out some things which i just HAVE to comment on. People keep saying its a "copy" or wow, or any other mmo. But jesus.. its called EVOLUTION. Which works in that order that you take an already existing beeing/game (w/e) and improve it. And its sad to see that people bashing something just because its much like something else, then you really havent given it a chance yourself. Altho its definately not 100% that the "improvement" always works.
My thought is that if it was a copy of wow i would already be playing wow.
I mean, why play a copy when I can get the original, polished blizzard product, all their support and updates, their fan gatherings, a game you know will be around for a while, etc.
But I don't play WoW. Though I have played it, I have one character that was made the day the game launched and is a whopping lvl 30+ which shows how much time I've put into the game over the years .
However I DO want to avidly play Aion. so obviously there is enough that is different.
It's all in the mix and how these features are blended together.
While there are alot of similiarities in comparing classes between WoW and Aion(sorceror / mage), the actual focus of each game is different. Aion's focus is a hard core pvp/pve and RvR based game. Wow focus is a huge variety of events / features with a segmented reward based pve and pvp. The two games feel very different.
I personnaly went through the betas and if I understand correctly it will be a PAY for timed played game. Not a game like WOW that is about a monthly fee. Who wouldn't want to start out almost even in a game like this where as WOW has so many players ahead of you not only in level but also experience. Being literally on the ground floor of such a highly rated game only makes sense and the commitment in $ is not that bad. I know the game costs around $49+ dollars but that is where your commitment comes in. N.C> is NO slouch in gaming!
I personnaly went through the betas and if I understand correctly it will be a PAY for timed played game. Not a game like WOW that is about a monthly fee. Who wouldn't want to start out almost even in a game like this where as WOW has so many players ahead of you not only in level but also experience. Being literally on the ground floor of such a highly rated game only makes sense and the commitment in $ is not that bad. I know the game costs around $49+ dollars but that is where your commitment comes in. N.C> is NO slouch in gaming!
No i think your wrong there . its a monthly subscription like WoW . You may have the Asian model of the way Aion is funded muddled with the western model which nscoft will use .
Why did you bring up such a topic on your first post ??? It seams rather in depth for someone new to these forums.
After playing the beta for a while, I ended up decided not to pre-order, Aion to me is nothing more than another world of warcraft clone that just looks nicer, as a added bonus we get a lame korean typical mmorpg grind too Yippie!. My Main beef with Aion is the fact that its a WoW clone, and moreso that the game has nothing what-so-ever that is new or unique. Some people say a npc race, but, thats been done 8 years ago by DAoC. Honestly though, what does Aion have to offer to attract me to buy it? I hated WoW and how it was setup. Aion reminds me too much of a mmorpg for dummies, with all skills and stats being done for you. The crafting system probally blows like it does in most korean devoloped(sp?) mmo's with ludicris material requirements and a sky-high fail rate. I Suspect Aion will do fine though, Hell Lineage 2 is still kicking, Before that Anarchy online is 10 or 11 years old and they just recently added a new expansion. Anyway, I may reconsider if.. well, anyway I can use the orignal voices? Most english game dubs suck horribly, and I have a feeling Aion is another. For me gameplay > graphics and so far, Aion fails to deliver on gameplay. Does it get better later? or is it the same herded like sheep to the next quest hub system WoW uses?
Just an honest question, how far did you get? The "Next Quest Hub" concept is just to get the majority of MMO players (players used to WoW) get into a comfortable level within the game and learn it's ins and outs. That portion of the game trails off at level 22+ where the game gradually becomes more open and quest hubs start to dwindle. In the Abyss the majority of quests are repeatable quests for Abyss Points and Coins. From 25+ you won't be very concerned with quest details, but more involved with watching your rear and ensuring you aren't ganked by an enemy player. I find 1-20 a tutorial and 20-25 a gradual slope to the real gameplay... the abyss. The Abyss is NOTHING like WoW.
Original voices can be changed if you look up information on which file in the Aion folder you can swap for. You can probably swap for Korean or Japanese voices. However if you are looking at the game this subjectively and critically just go find another game. It isn't trying to be something new.
Which has been exactly my point from the start. After 25 the game turns into a gankfest. Thanks, but I've had more than my fill of such gankfest games. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the start to be balanced PvP games. While ganking may appeal to a certain demographic, many of us want no part of it. Which I suspect is why NCsoft is being less than forth coming about the games real focus.
The combat is remarkably similar to WoW's (replace rage/energy requirements with skill chains and longer cooldowns) and the mirrored classes (for the most part, except for maybe gladiator, templar and chanter) will definitely remind you of it's looming influence on the genre. It's not quite far to call it an Asian grinder, however, since it does have just enough content to keep you lvling up to half way through the game. While many might praise it's lore, it's in no way as fleshed out as WoW's: I remember pre-ordering WoW and getting a novel with my purchase (not that I read it, because it was still on a 5th grade leve l); the fact that it "borrowed" (stole) from Warhammer really facilitated the whole deal. If you had taken vanilla WoW, made it smaller, taken away some of the quests, added an INCENTIVE to world PvP (I think this is a huge lure to the Aion fan base), added flying and flying combat, taken away meaningful class customization (the stigma system is really a joke, since of the 10 or so skills you can choose only a couple are really optimal), fleshed out crafting, made the soundtrack and graphics awesome, added a hefty grind to the last 10 lvls (and I mean HEFTY) and added an Asian theme, then you would nearly have Aion. So, imho, it's a bit of a stretch to call Aion a WoW-clone, or a clone of anything really. WoW started as a game with POTENTIAL to have meaningful World PvP, but ended up in an instance fest. I personally like both, but I do prefer the arena system, since in World PvP it most often boils down to sheer numbers and not reasoning. The number of threads on the beta forum of Asmodians complaining about Elyos stymieing lower level progression is merely a harbinger of what is to come...
All i read in this post was, wow wow wow wow wow.
Ya same here at first...LOL. People will eventually get over WoW and move on. Everyone compares new games to WoW, it cracks me up. Maybe because they spent countless hours playing it and don't want to let go? WoW is a great game and is alot of fun for many people but come on folks...get a grip LOL
Hello A, Not too in-detailed for an individual like myself that basically looks at posts but does not post anything myself. Do you get your title by the number of posts or by response to your posts? The release price hasn't been publically released but I had someone in the know relate that info to me. I'm in my 40's and not a younger player. Take care.
I personnaly went through the betas and if I understand correctly it will be a PAY for timed played game. Not a game like WOW that is about a monthly fee. Who wouldn't want to start out almost even in a game like this where as WOW has so many players ahead of you not only in level but also experience. Being literally on the ground floor of such a highly rated game only makes sense and the commitment in $ is not that bad. I know the game costs around $49+ dollars but that is where your commitment comes in. N.C> is NO slouch in gaming!
Game requires monthly sub. It required me to setup a subscrption cycle when I pre-loaded the game via NCsoft.
First of all, it's not a WoW clone. WoW is not an original, it's a refined clone of the early MMO's which was UO and EQ. Blizzard was just smart enough to do their homework before releasing their game and hence the success of their game.
Aion is a refined L2 clone if you really want to get a litle more specific. There is no such thing as an original MMO, everything is just a revised and refined version. There are a few exeptions like Eve and a few others.
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My thought is that if it was a copy of wow i would already be playing wow.
I mean, why play a copy when I can get the original, polished blizzard product, all their support and updates, their fan gatherings, a game you know will be around for a while, etc.
But I don't play WoW. Though I have played it, I have one character that was made the day the game launched and is a whopping lvl 30+ which shows how much time I've put into the game over the years
.
However I DO want to avidly play Aion. so obviously there is enough that is different.
It's all in the mix and how these features are blended together.
Great point! And I actually have 3 max level characters so this is coming from the perspective from an avid but recently retired WoW player. Aion has the foundation of a truly great game! I'm really excited about it and that is hard to do especially with some of the recent over-hyped failures I have seen lately. Aion is unique in many different ways and while anyone can say they see similarities between games, this is by no means a "WoW clone". It looks nothing like WoW, in fact, omg it actually has an awesome character customization model and the graphics are stunning. The combat is nothing like WoW and is intuitive and the chains are a great idea since it allows so much more space in your bars during game play. There are several cut scenes during your quests, etc.
So please go take that WoW clone nonesense somewhere else. It's overdone and tired.
Hard to be done since 99% of the enw games are getting threads that are wow clones even Champions online which is a SUPERHERO game aka comics lmao
Did you actually play the beta at all? Since you seem to know nothing at all of the crafting system and are merely speculating. The crafting system is nothing like what you say, maybe you should have tried it during close beta, but it seems you did not even play closed beta because you have no argument against the game apart from it being a WoW "clone", which in all certainty it is not.
Did you play DaoC by the way? Please name the NPC race, since I remember there being 3 factions that fought each other when I played, do not remember any NPC race like the Balaur.
Anarchy Online was not developed by a Korean company as well as it is not 10-11 years old. The only MMO that old is Ultima Online.
Lastly your english is very poor and you have no excuse for it. Most of your criticism is void of valid arguments and devoid as well of correct grammar as well as correct spelling.
My suggestion is do not post useless and ludicrous "arguments" about why you will not play the game. Frankly, no one of cares if you will or not.
Regards,
R
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I sware can someone come up with something more orignal then "this is a wow clone" or "this game sucks" thread seriously everytime a new game comes out this is what happens. I can almost guarntee when STO, KoTR, or FF14 goes into beta this will come back up again. Hell When Blizz finally reveals there new IP I know it will happen, it just comes down to people need something to bitch about....wait i just answered my own post
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
Did you actually play the beta at all? Since you seem to know nothing at all of the crafting system and are merely speculating. The crafting system is nothing like what you say, maybe you should have tried it during close beta, but it seems you did not even play closed beta because you have no argument against the game apart from it being a WoW "clone", which in all certainty it is not.
Did you play DaoC by the way? Please name the NPC race, since I remember there being 3 factions that fought each other when I played, do not remember any NPC race like the Balaur.
Anarchy Online was not developed by a Korean company as well as it is not 10-11 years old. The only MMO that old is Ultima Online.
Lastly your english is very poor and you have no excuse for it. Most of your criticism is void of valid arguments and devoid as well of correct grammar as well as correct spelling.
My suggestion is do not post useless and ludicrous "arguments" about why you will not play the game. Frankly, no one of cares if you will or not.
Regards,
R
I also have my doubts . A lot of it sounds like what i was hearing from anti-aion fans in WoW just before i left that game after playing for 4 years . A lot of what i heard in general chat is the same old thing that there was no way they would play it because it looked too asian or was a grindfest . When asked very few had played the beta or when they said they had and were questioned further about content they obviously did nt know the first thing about it . Either they did nt know what class , faction or even what server they had been playing it on . The same was true of the people that said they d played the asian release in wow ( and age of conan for that matter ) . This game has got fans the mmorpg world in a stir across the board . Most of my Lord of the Rings Kinship are joining it . Several friends from AoC and a lot of people that played Warcraft at one time or still do that I ve kept in contact . I never did like the phrase WoWkiller because its hard to see how any game could finnish it off but this one certainly has the potential to cause it significant injury .
Thats why we are getting all these threads from people that have never played the beta . They are worried . If you look for every one of them saying its just an asian grinder there are ten of us saying it not . That speaks volumes .
My thought is that if it was a copy of wow i would already be playing wow.
I mean, why play a copy when I can get the original, polished blizzard product, all their support and updates, their fan gatherings, a game you know will be around for a while, etc.
But I don't play WoW. Though I have played it, I have one character that was made the day the game launched and is a whopping lvl 30+ which shows how much time I've put into the game over the years
.
However I DO want to avidly play Aion. so obviously there is enough that is different.
It's all in the mix and how these features are blended together.
While there are alot of similiarities in comparing classes between WoW and Aion(sorceror / mage), the actual focus of each game is different. Aion's focus is a hard core pvp/pve and RvR based game. Wow focus is a huge variety of events / features with a segmented reward based pve and pvp. The two games feel very different.
I personnaly went through the betas and if I understand correctly it will be a PAY for timed played game. Not a game like WOW that is about a monthly fee. Who wouldn't want to start out almost even in a game like this where as WOW has so many players ahead of you not only in level but also experience. Being literally on the ground floor of such a highly rated game only makes sense and the commitment in $ is not that bad. I know the game costs around $49+ dollars but that is where your commitment comes in. N.C> is NO slouch in gaming!
No i think your wrong there . its a monthly subscription like WoW . You may have the Asian model of the way Aion is funded muddled with the western model which nscoft will use .
Why did you bring up such a topic on your first post ??? It seams rather in depth for someone new to these forums.
POO is that troll sweat i smell lol ???
Just an honest question, how far did you get? The "Next Quest Hub" concept is just to get the majority of MMO players (players used to WoW) get into a comfortable level within the game and learn it's ins and outs. That portion of the game trails off at level 22+ where the game gradually becomes more open and quest hubs start to dwindle. In the Abyss the majority of quests are repeatable quests for Abyss Points and Coins. From 25+ you won't be very concerned with quest details, but more involved with watching your rear and ensuring you aren't ganked by an enemy player. I find 1-20 a tutorial and 20-25 a gradual slope to the real gameplay... the abyss. The Abyss is NOTHING like WoW.
Original voices can be changed if you look up information on which file in the Aion folder you can swap for. You can probably swap for Korean or Japanese voices. However if you are looking at the game this subjectively and critically just go find another game. It isn't trying to be something new.
Which has been exactly my point from the start. After 25 the game turns into a gankfest. Thanks, but I've had more than my fill of such gankfest games. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the start to be balanced PvP games. While ganking may appeal to a certain demographic, many of us want no part of it. Which I suspect is why NCsoft is being less than forth coming about the games real focus.
All i read in this post was, wow wow wow wow wow.
Ya same here at first...LOL. People will eventually get over WoW and move on. Everyone compares new games to WoW, it cracks me up. Maybe because they spent countless hours playing it and don't want to let go? WoW is a great game and is alot of fun for many people but come on folks...get a grip LOL
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Hello A, Not too in-detailed for an individual like myself that basically looks at posts but does not post anything myself. Do you get your title by the number of posts or by response to your posts? The release price hasn't been publically released but I had someone in the know relate that info to me. I'm in my 40's and not a younger player. Take care.
Game requires monthly sub. It required me to setup a subscrption cycle when I pre-loaded the game via NCsoft.
First of all, it's not a WoW clone. WoW is not an original, it's a refined clone of the early MMO's which was UO and EQ. Blizzard was just smart enough to do their homework before releasing their game and hence the success of their game.
Aion is a refined L2 clone if you really want to get a litle more specific. There is no such thing as an original MMO, everything is just a revised and refined version. There are a few exeptions like Eve and a few others.
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I guess I'm wrong then. Too bad its not based on pay for time played. That would be a huge plus. I'll play AION anyways, it looks too good to pass up.