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That 5 dollars i could used that at the CO item mall...LOL
To those who don't think that $5.00 is not going to break you..Please send it to my address, I can all ways put it to good use..ROFL...
Mod edit
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
It is the purchasing agent of the various retailers that strike those deals to get ppl to buy from their stores.
What you call bad business is in fact, good business....free market!!
I take it you are a card carrying communist?
btw, I didn't preorder from a company that has the $5 benefit....damn, gonna go jump off a cliff now. Hmm, no, maybe I will look around next time before I jump on the first vendor.....I suggest everyone do the same!!!
Shop around next time.
That 5 dollars i could used that at the CO item mall...LOL
To those who don't think that $5.00 is not going to break you..Please send it to my address, I can all ways put it to good use..ROFL...
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It's that guy who says it's only $5 who
Dont even have $5 in his pocket, or a subscription, or a pre-order..
Just a guy with an attitude against negative complaintants with points that cant be argued with because its actually a valid complaint.
Everyone knows my point is valid, thats why they stopped attacking... unfortunately they got away with it.. But what really happend.. Direct 2 Drive lost a customer, ill never go back there because its obviously no longer a required service that obviously can't discount even though its taking a tangible product to intangible.. and pretty much means the whole digital distribution model is going to fail in near future.....
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
sorry, please re-read this entire post and you will see how wrong your point is, already explained... It is illegal to offer a better incentive from a MFR to Company on a retail price.. that would be a monopolistic move to ensure sales go in a certain direction and would bring in a million unfair business practice lawsuits...again it would destroy the relationships of the retailers and publishers who work with them to create more sales... that is an incorrect assumption you have made.
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
That 5 dollars i could used that at the CO item mall...LOL
To those who don't think that $5.00 is not going to break you..Please send it to my address, I can all ways put it to good use..ROFL...
Mod edit
It's that guy who says it's only $5 who
Dont even have $5 in his pocket, or a subscription, or a pre-order..
Just a guy with an attitude against negative complaintants with points that cant be argued with because its actually a valid complaint.
Everyone knows my point is valid, thats why they stopped attacking... unfortunately they got away with it.. But what really happend.. Direct 2 Drive lost a customer, ill never go back there because its obviously no longer a required service that obsiouly can't discount even though its taking a tangible product to intangible.. and pretty much means the whole digital distribution model is going to fail in near future.....
While I was never "attacking" as you say, I am still waiting on your rebuttal to the counterpoints I made to the debate you said you wanted to have.
Come on Aliamas, lets be real here..
You are out in the mall, and you stop in your local game shop called "PLUCKIES" and see BUY CHAMPIONS ONLINE PRE_ORDER NOW. GET IN GAME BACKPACK FREE..
and this was the game you always wish was being created and as an impulse you bought the pre-order..
you paid full retail price $49.99 plus tax or whatever
then you got home, and a month went by, or even a day, time doesnt matter here... you found out that if you actually went toa store you didnt like "DUCKIES" and bought it there for the same price, $49.99 plus tax, you got 2 perks, 3 Day head start, and $5 game credit, you wouldnt be dissappointed, you would say.. HEY DUCKIES awesome move, you are doing the same thing... selling the same game but you made a great phone call to get us head tart..
LOL i cant even finish that paragraph it's so ridiculous to even assume someone could agree with this scenario
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Peter,
Wait til you get out into the real world, and find out you can go to Wal Mart and buy the same item cheaper than you can at a different store. You'll find that different stores have different incentives for you to shop there, yet often sell the same product. This is called "Reality".
Signed,
The rest of us
Im done here for the day, and at the end of the day, i can honestly say, if I pre-order anything its to get in as fast as possible
and to limit that action to one retailer, is IMMORAL, UNETHICAL< and quite frankly illegal if you anyone wishes to pursue that in court.
And everyone in a logical face to face meeting will agree with me... you know it, i know it, cryptic knows it.. atari <--- source of problem, this company has lost its sanity and scruples, if they ever had any..
END OF DAY, I am unhappy and my unhappiness is justified.. I am no longer a D2D cutomer, I am no longer a Cryptic Customer.. so boo hoo all your $5 tears for me.. they the ones that lost in the end..
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Sorry, This was already addressed, there was NO discount provided for the MISSING perks, that again would be a pricing legality issue.. The full RETAIL PRICE is being paid at D2D. Amazon may discount, thats their business if they want to give away the farm for future busienss, the discount had nothing to do with perks. And im pretty sure amazon can sell more than Barnes & Noble with its eyes closed... Keep an eye on who owns who and is invested in what!
Keep digging for debate issues, but I pretty much cleaned the clocks of morality on this thread.
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
while you have a good point its also very stupid imo. thats make you impulse buyers ridiculous. instead of being a little patient and checking around for good deals you buy the first thing you see then get mad when you can get something better or even cheaper from somewhere else. On top of that still have the nerve to get mad when its no ones fault but your own for not being patient.
Disappointed? Sure, I might be disappointed. If I was that disappointed I might return the game to the first store, and buy it at another (as I have already stated I did earlier) if I could. However, I wouldn't be disappthere is a large difference between being disappointed in the purchase choice I made on impulse, rather than accusing the company that made the game of poor business practices.
I never once said you had to be "happy" about it, all I said was that it wasn't Cryptic's fault that D2D didn't have the perks you expected.
Ok, I am done with this debate. It is hard to debate the delusional.
Disappointed? Sure, I might be disappointed. If I was that disappointed I might return the game to the first store, and buy it at another (as I have already stated I did earlier) if I could. However, I wouldn't be disappthere is a large difference between being disappointed in the purchase choice I made on impulse, rather than accusing the company that made the game of poor business practices.
I never once said you had to be "happy" about it, all I said was that it wasn't Cryptic's fault that D2D didn't have the perks you expected.
There's 2 problems with your logic.
1. There is no refunds.. You are screwed for being a good customer.. End of story.
2. Its not Cryptics fault... Someone comes up with this shit.. and in this case dissappointment was created, that must be there is some fault.. Are you saying Crypit sat around listening to D2D who said, hi, we dont care about perks, just give us a backpack and do whatever else you want with whatever other company, its all good, our customers love us so much they wont mind getting FUCKED IN THE ASS from us... and if they do, we dont care.. NO REFUNDS>> BAHAHHAAH your common sense is off its kilter
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Dude, seriously? Perks is your complaint?
You gonna complain when CoX is offered at a discount of $19 instead of the $50 you paid for it when it first came out? Seriously, perks are a marketing tool. Desined to entice you into buying the software and subscribing to the game.
All games do this and have different ones from different stores. CoH did this 5 years ago ( or whenever it was released ). Really, if you do not like the game do not play it.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
your bitching about getting free shit? What is wrong with you.
Also each of those shops pays Cryptic for those items (as they are incentives to sell the copies of the game) and they deliberately try and lure you in with different items for different shops.
e.g My local shops during the PS3 launch
GAME: $800 and you get the console, 1 game and 1 controller
GAME TRADERS (where my friend got his): $800, 2 controllers discount on any game purchase (20%)
EB: $800, 1 game (super limited they only let you pick from about 3), 1 controller
as you can see all 3 had different deals to try and lure in customers. In the end it did not matter as the machines sold out so fast it ended up being 'grab any one you can find'. That was seriously the advice all the shops were giving so in the end i got mine from GAME.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Disappointed? Sure, I might be disappointed. If I was that disappointed I might return the game to the first store, and buy it at another (as I have already stated I did earlier) if I could. However, I wouldn't be disappthere is a large difference between being disappointed in the purchase choice I made on impulse, rather than accusing the company that made the game of poor business practices.
I never once said you had to be "happy" about it, all I said was that it wasn't Cryptic's fault that D2D didn't have the perks you expected.
There's 2 problems with your logic.
1. There is no refunds.. You are screwed for being a good customer.. End of story.
2. Its not Cryptics fault... Someone comes up with this shit.. and in this case dissappointment was created, that must be there is some fault.. Are you saying Crypit sat around listening to D2D who said, hi, we dont care about perks, just give us a backpack and do whatever else you want with whatever other company, its all good, our customers love us so much they wont mind getting FUCKED IN THE ASS from us... and if they do, we dont care.. NO REFUNDS>> BAHAHHAAH your common sense is off its kilter
(I said I was done, so I am going to regret this)
1. There is no refunds.. You are screwed for being a good customer.. End of story.
In that case, and in this instance, I would honestly suck it up and deal. Let's look at the perks here (we will just use Gamestop).
1) The ability to fly right off the bat -> Fluff. Not really needed at all in the game for the first 5 levels, and after that you get it anyway if you want it)
2) 3 day headstart - While yes, this is nice to have, it isn't the end of the world. I wouldn't cry over it. It isn't a race to get to 40, there is no prize. 3 days of playtime is again, fluff.
3) Insect wingfoils - Fluff again, unless I had my heart set on creating a bug man. Even then, it would probably be available later on in the Cryptic Store if I wanted it that badly
4) $5 credit a the CS - The only thing that really has any monitary value that I could be upset about. But what would it be used for...to by more fluff. In the long term scheme of things, not important.
2. It is not Cryptic's fault
As has been pointed out, more than once and more than just me, this is a business deal that was made per company. You may not believe it, but yes, Cryptic did sit with D2D and discuss what perks they wanted to offer, they came to a deal, papers were signed, and money probably changed hands.
i see im winnign the debate your temper is now flaring, this is good sign you have to agree with me now.. You are looking for angle out based on fact you don't like me, not my point.. this is whats wrong with you internet dwellers, you can care less abotu this point.. I have attacked with you my complaint, and you instead of going, oh yeah i see, thats not right, they shouldnt do that.. like any common sense person or businessman would do, you try to beat around the bush and say it dont bother you.. did you order sir? did you? did you pre-order to play early as possible, thats why i pre-ordered, to get the game right away.. yes fluff, who gives a shit but it sicks that i pre-ordered 2 months ago and some fucking can signup right now at the same fucking cost and hop in the game tommorow and i cant.. and if thats tough fucking cookies for me, then it is tough fucking cookies, the bottom line... cryptic lost $250 bucks today....
or more importatntly one shitty designers salary is now lost for a week.. hahha which ultimate is going to effect you more than more... how you like them cookies? your the one now effected.. hahahahah your game is now for sure nnot going to get polished.... losing money before they open their doors.. lol
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
The first thing I've agreed with. Your point is undebatable. It is simply nonsense. No one can debate with that.
Hey Malakahn,
i have a simple phrase for you
MUCK MUCK
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Last reply, then I am done
Did I pre-order? Yes. Does my preorder have headstart? Yes. Will I be playing this weekend? Nope. i am going to be spending time with my wife and child.
ok PeterPorker ( guess that does not imply the same connotation in Canada as it does in US, hehe ). You have made the point that you did not like the fact that your PRE-ORDER did not come with early access.
Did you notice that you did not get early access when you originally bought the game? If not, I commend you on taking it back.
Aside from that, I do not believe you are ever going to see something like this go away. It is a perk. It is not game changing. It is fluff. Like the first 100 players get an action figure or something. Or, collectors edition ( only picked one up once for SWG, never again ) having added stuff.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
If you preorder a game before the officially announced preorder's are in then you are simply an idiot. If you havent figured it out by now...you do gain absolutely nothing from preording a game 3 years before its release...or even 6 months before its release. There is zero reason not to wait...unless the publisher or developer specifically offers a special limited time only deal(lifetime subs in this case). Preodering a game even 6 months in advance does not even guarentee that you will get it on release day because they publisher and developers probably have not even made any specific distribution deals at that point.
A company famous for offering preoders before a game sometimes even has a publisher is gamestop. I would never preorder a game unless I get that specific box that is a preoder box. The only exception is for specific companies that offer digital downloads(Direct2Drive for one).
Never ever order/preorder anything that is not stamped with an official seal of approval.
YES, exactly the first 100 right?
Ughm someone right now can pre-order and start playing in 7 hours.... i ordered 3 months ago, i have to wait till september.. thanks for the awesome point... First 100 is HOW is should be if limited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree.. but your point is moot.. since as you can see... you can still have the chance to play tommorow, i cant.. you havent paid i cent, i havea months ago. QQ me a river here
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Please, everyone. Let's congratulate PeterPorker for being the FIRST on my blocked list.
You have accomplished SOMETHING! yay! /clap
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
yes, its my thread, i like to have valid discussion debate, you like to attack those who you dont like for no reason other than your poor comprehension and lack of common sense... whatever the case or mental problem you have is irrelevent as you now have been reported for trolling and we will help you get closer to your wishes of being banned. Aint got noting to say about the topic, from here on our come troll reports... anyone willing to debate, go ahead, but as you can see, 0 points even applicable to date.. take it for what it is.. they were wrong.. d2d tommorow is going to get hit with tons of chargebacks when they realize they got shafted
All kidding aside,
Peter Porker
Last reply, then I am done
Did I pre-order? Yes. Does my preorder have headstart? Yes. Will I be playing this weekend? Nope. i am going to be spending time with my wife and child.
Lies, i believe you pre-ordered, you have headstart, and are sitting there with a 2 frozen 2 liter and a pee pan and hose strapped to your johnson, and got a macro programmed hitting auto-update hoping they put up the servers even an hour earlier than midnite to get your CO fix asap. You simply dont have any other forum interaction (because this game is a dud and wow i cant believe how lack of interest this truly has) but anyway I dont believe you have a child or a wife for one second, matter of fact, I have just gotten a PM that you dont even have a girlfriend. and may not even have pubics yet.
Really...lol. Well, you are free to believe what you want to believe I guess.
Have fun!