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WoW - Why play anything else?

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  • wootedgewootedge Member Posts: 122



    Originally posted by Puoltry

    Ive got a real good reason.I HATE fantasy games, they bore me to death.Its overdone and is killing the genre.



    My reason is It BLOWS

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  • WickesWickes Member UncommonPosts: 749
    Somebody turned me on to Apple Cinnamon Cheerios last week.  Man, this is the bestest cereal ever.  I can't see why anyone would ever eat any other cereal.  It's crisp.  It's tasty, with a slight tang.  It makes you think of Apples, and it's even good for you!   Have you guys tasted apples?  I mean, wow they're great.  This will really teach Kellogg to put out all those sucky cereals.  I bet the Kellogg building is a ghost town already.  I know it's only been a week, but I am already absolutely positive I am gonna eat nothing but Apple Cinnamon Cheerios for the rest of my life!  If you don't, you're stupid.

  • BuZeRBuZeR Member UncommonPosts: 77

    WoW's allright. But blizzard just dont listen. They keep making Alliance more pwoerfull while nerfing Horde. I think its got something to do with all the Admins playing Paladins. Theres not alot Paladins cant do...

    Also the unbalanced class system is rather homo. Atm in PvP its just class vs class msot of the time. Its less skill based then even what DAoC was, not to mention Paladins have an 80%+ chance of killing any class 1vs1.

    They get a self invun for 10 secs with around 45 sec reuse. They get heals, they get a free mount at lvl 40, they get stuns, they get plate, and they get self weapon buffs. They can tank better then a warrior, have higher dps then a warlock and can heal better then a shaman.

    And why would they get the ability to allow them to summon their own horse when everyone else has to pay 90gold for them. Warllocks are the only other class that gets a free horse, and that makes sence... seeing as their a summoning class, but giving Paladins horses jsut aint make sence.

    GG Blizzard, killing WoW and all.

  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949

    Rofl...im literally weary of hearing this shit...this game just needs to die already...ugh..its a piece of shit..come on, use yer brain..its not going to last long..dead horse dead horse...

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  • FunseikiFunseiki Member UncommonPosts: 263
  • VronVron Member Posts: 71


    Originally posted by Copeland
    Ok folks its time for you to learn about the economic of mmorpg's. These games are very expensive to develop. The gameboxes you bought are only the tip of the iceberg. It takes a high subscription base at least 4 years to pay for the development of the game.

    4 years of subscriptions to pay for the game? Not even close. Blizzard said that just before Open Beta they spent ~10 million developing WoW, and paying for bandwidth, etc. We'll say another $1 million was spent during open beta and distribution, etc., so $11 million by release. That would take 220,000 boxes sold - they got that in the first day. So since a few hundred thousand people have already payed $15 for the second month, that would mean Blizzard is already making money.

  • DrakaeonDrakaeon Member Posts: 630


    Originally posted by wootedge
    Originally posted by Puoltry
    Ive got a real good reason.I HATE fantasy games, they bore me to death.Its overdone and is killing the genre.
    My reason is It BLOWS

    Who the hell are you? Did someone leave the backdoor open again? Please, just leave the forums. I don't think there is anyone here who finds you entertaining, amusing, or intelligent, for that matter. So, why don't you just leave through the door you snuck through and right back into that little hole you call 'home.'

    P.S - If you were trying to spell 'wootage,' you spelled it wrong.


  • DrakaeonDrakaeon Member Posts: 630


    Originally posted by sygmas
    Rofl...im literally weary of hearing this shit...this game just needs to die already...ugh..its a piece of shit..come on, use yer brain..its not going to last long..dead horse dead horse...


    Wow, I was so very much enlightened by this spectacular post. As I type this, I am searching for a mallet to crush my World of Warcraft disks. Also, I am using my head to smash my computer to smitherines for ever installing World of Warcraft on it.

  • Billius8Billius8 Member Posts: 574


    Originally posted by _Jord_
    WoW is just THAT good. Why would anyone want to play anything else?
    Now ... I've got you flaming mad...
    My background is UO=>FFXI=>WoW. I've also seen a lot of EQ (my room mate at school played it 11 hours a day) and I've played EQ2 (although very limited).
    So... now that I have your attention... Here's WHY I make such a strong statement about WoW:
    Leveling is possible both solo and in groups. This means you can progress your character for 30 minutes or 10 hours - you can level when you want, how you want and with who (or without who) you wantGrouping levels are not heavily restricted - so you can play with your friendsExcellent PvP system and choice between PvP or PvE (PvE still has PvP content but it's all optional)Leveling curve does not become a part/full time job (I.e. you dont need 6 hours at a time and 1000s of total hours to reach cap). Just imagine - you get to spend your playing time on other things!Farming, exping and gathering tradeskill materials can be done at the same time - no endless weeks of "farming" while gaining 0 expA good guild is everything you need to avoid the rest of the population (I.e. stay out of the general chat channels)Fast-paced, but not hack-n-slash combat keeps players involved and is more than just Macro 1 Macro 2 Macro 3 Rinse, Repeat...An incredibly large variety of gear allows for heavy character personalization. Talent system allows for further customiztion, making your character strong in whatever aspect of their abilities you choose
    Meh ... I only used the strong, suggestive subject to get your attention ... though I definitely expect to catch a few flames....
    I do feel that hardcore MMO'ers wll feel a bit threatened though. I mean if you're like me and have spent 75+ DAYS of playtime to reach cap, it's hard to imagine dropping it and joining a game in which cap can be reached in 10 days of playtime. It sounds "easy" ... well ... it's not easy ... It's challenging. It is challenging, but not a huge timesink.
    It took me a while (and a lot of sleepless nights) but I've finally dropped my 75 DAY FFXI account...
    I'm a convert! I will never ride a 2000 hour level curve ever again!!!Kharma Trolls (Illidan) - The Official Allakhazam Posters Guild


    WOW has a good system, beautiful world and NONE of the pain (hassles) that I see in other MMORG's.

    That said, WOW has limited races, limited classes, cartoonish character graphics, and no real sense of challenge. An hour or two spent in WOW feels like "ho hum" to me. This is a great game for "casual players", but for hardcore MMORPG players "looking for more" it's going to take a different game to relight that old fire (Vanguard?).

  • kishekishe Member UncommonPosts: 2,012

    Well, majority of WoW players are newbies to MMORPG genre, coming from battlenet etc...and they arent interested of other MMORPGs so WoW will be around for long time...

    I plaid WoW from closed beta all way to release but it simply wasn't game for me...it was 10% adventuring 90% handholding....you were dragged to all the content and have it all spooned in your mouth, it just lacked sense of adventuring...Doing new quests wasn't fun because you'd already know what you'd get for finishing it. Half of playerbase is almost on max levels 1 month after release...Don't get me wrong, the game is decent but if you play more than 2 hours a day you won't stay entertained for over 6-9 months, incoming pvp content included.

    When I pay to play I rather see it as long time investment rather than 6 months joy.

  • BigPeelerBigPeeler Member Posts: 1,270

    It's just too easy IMO...

    Everything else is pretty solid (except the trade skill system)...

    Honestly... i didnt feel any challenge when i would play it... everything else was good, but after 2 weeks i was just bored to death with the lack of challenge...

    if it was a bit more challenging i would have probably stayed with it...

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  • kishekishe Member UncommonPosts: 2,012

    Wish and Dark & light will come out in 5 months...Both will have GIANT worlds...WoW's world is actually quite tiny even compared to current MMORPGs.


    Dark & light, if done right will be the god of pvp mmorpgs and by what ive read Wish will actually readd RPG in the term MMORPG.


    But then again, there will be those 400 thousand Diablo2/warcraft fans who wont be interested of real mmorpgs.

  • HK-21HK-21 Member Posts: 6


    Another reason that I'm not playing WOW is the Pay to Play stuff.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    [quote]Originally posted by firemagic
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    Your claim to be able to see into the future with 100% accuracy is obviously flawed.

    Yes, we will see what happens within the next year, but I think you'll find the outcome currently lies within the realm of "speculation" rather than "determined fact".

    Your guild name gives away your motivation for playing MMOs: Elitism. You need to feel like you're better than others simply through sitting at your computer for longer than they have. Not everyone shares your irrational motivation, and this is why Everquest is dying and WoW will thrive.

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    I love how people see the name of my guild and think thats what we're about. Did you not read the part where i run pick up raids 3 nights a week to get people flags? HAH i spend more time helping the little guys on my server than anyone else and when i do it at least 20% of my guild comes along in support. See thats call a community. Instead of ranting in OOC like 12 year olds and sitting on MB's making posts about how great our game is we actually play and help build a community. Man i'm glad you guys left for WoW its really a much nicer atmosphere :)

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Vron
    Originally posted by Copeland
    Ok folks its time for you to learn about the economic of mmorpg's. These games are very expensive to develop. The gameboxes you bought are only the tip of the iceberg. It takes a high subscription base at least 4 years to pay for the development of the game.

    4 years of subscriptions to pay for the game? Not even close. Blizzard said that just before Open Beta they spent ~10 million developing WoW, and paying for bandwidth, etc. We'll say another $1 million was spent during open beta and distribution, etc., so $11 million by release. That would take 220,000 boxes sold - they got that in the first day. So since a few hundred thousand people have already payed $15 for the second month, that would mean Blizzard is already making money.


    Your kidding me right? $11 million for release of a mmog? NO WAY. I don't know where you got that figure but you better go check again or link the info because thats WAY off.


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  • _myko_myko Member Posts: 333

    besides, with those sorts of player numbers i bet bandwidth costs them a pretty penny....not to mention continuing dev costs. Average seems to be around 2-3 years to break even.

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    PvE in general is pretty lame, if you think long and hard about it. You are spending your time beating a severely gimped AI that would lose to a well trained monkey. Best not to think too long and hard why you are wasting time playing games in general actually...

  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719


    Originally posted by Copeland
    Originally posted by Vron
    Originally posted by Copeland
    Ok folks its time for you to learn about the economic of mmorpg's. These games are very expensive to develop. The gameboxes you bought are only the tip of the iceberg. It takes a high subscription base at least 4 years to pay for the development of the game.

    4 years of subscriptions to pay for the game? Not even close. Blizzard said that just before Open Beta they spent ~10 million developing WoW, and paying for bandwidth, etc. We'll say another $1 million was spent during open beta and distribution, etc., so $11 million by release. That would take 220,000 boxes sold - they got that in the first day. So since a few hundred thousand people have already payed $15 for the second month, that would mean Blizzard is already making money.


    Your kidding me right? $11 million for release of a mmog? NO WAY. I don't know where you got that figure but you better go check again or link the info because thats WAY off.


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    One account = One box sold.

    Think about how many accounts there are right now.

    Now multiply that by $50

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    I'm not arguing the sales i'm arguing the costs. Show me the link where blizzard says it only cost them 11 million dollars.

    i guarantee you it cost them well over 100 million to develop and produce WoW

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  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719


    Originally posted by Copeland
    I'm not arguing the sales i'm arguing the costs. Show me the link where blizzard says it only cost them 11 million dollars.image

    Oh ok. My bad.

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  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501



    Originally posted by Copeland

    Ok folks its time for you to learn about the economic of mmorpg's. These games are very expensive to develop. The gameboxes you bought are only the tip of the iceberg. It takes a high subscription base at least 4 years to pay for the development of the game. You can kid yourself and think that this game will last that long thats fine i dont really care. Do you still play D2? why not? because you did it all and better games came along.. thats the future of wow. It's built on the casual gamer model and casual gamer friendly games never ever ever have lasted. Its too easy to level. It's just too easy for a hardcore gamer. They cant crank out enough material to keep people interested at that pace unless they only play a couple hours a week. I know its new and everyone is so happy with it. Tell me that in a year ok. Tell me that when you come back to EQ to see your old friends. Because you know you will. I know you will.. Everyone knows you will.
    I keep hearing on these forums that EQ is dead. Although the casual player base has eroded to wow and some other people have moved on to EQ2 let me tell you EQ is nowhere near a desolate place. My guild still pulls in 60-75 people 4 nights a week to raid. I run pickup raids on my off night and i get 70+ people to raid. EQ is still very much alive. Content is king. EQ is king. Maybe in 6 or 7 years another game can claim to be better, but until they have the track record and the books to prove it i dont wanna hear it.
    Enjoy your games. Just dont make silly posts like this that are all hype and all subjective to the posters opinion. It breeds nothing but hatred for your game. Your not doing your game a service by making posts like this. Posts like this only show how immature a community is.
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    What is all this hate for WoW and CoH? Someone does a game that is actually fun and doesn't require hours of hardcore gaming to get to the good stuff and here comes people saying "it won't last, in 4 months/6 months/1 year it will be dead".

    Well guess what? tell me how many morpg "died"? 1. Earth & Beyond.

    Any others? mmmmmh... nope. UO, AC and EQ are still here. even some not-so-good games as Horizons or AC2 are STILL here.

    The market is filled with casual gamers, CoH is not dead nowaday after months of succesful activity and WoW broke all records of PC selling in one day.... and is not even released in Europe!

    So, nope, sorry. WoW won't be dead by end of 2005.

    10 days to arrive at 60? yeah! if you play like 24/7 and guess what? an experienced hardcore powerplayer takes about the same to get to max in EQ.. surprise surprise ah?

    No one, not even Blizzard, ever said that WoW will revolution the genre. Blizzard NEVER do that. Blizzard takes accomplished ideas and make with them what no one else, to that point, was able to do. a Very fun game open to everybody, not just a niche.

    You might not like WoW for a thousand reasons (for all games out there, there are people loving it and some hating it), but after such a general uproar of reaction from both public and critic, it would be unreasonable to still consider WoW a "crappy" game that will fail in like... 2 months.

    You prefer Eq? fine, but realize that making posts like "Wow? pfft, will die in a year tops" is not that much different than making "Wow! best game evaaar!" With the difference than you are being negative about a game you do not like and maybe never ever played, the second is being positive on a game he plays and appreciate.

    have a nice day.

    Do not hate, but appreciate.

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  • HempHunterHempHunter Member Posts: 47

    i agree 100% with Volkmar and btw ... everyone saying wow is to tiny/has no content/and pvp sucks ... damn wait a bit and you see what comes ... its like every mmorpg it gets exansions/patches only a mmorpg n00b dosent know that same with innovative stuff just wait for expansion packs and check then again if you like wow or not but stop the whining/trolling already damnit ! or does anyone wanna tell me that eq1 had more content (not mindless kill 2 mob types grind) as wow got now ? NO they added everything with guess what ? yeah right EXPANSION PACKS ... got it already ::::28::

  • kishekishe Member UncommonPosts: 2,012


    Originally posted by Volkmar
    Originally posted by Copeland
    Ok folks its time for you to learn about the economic of mmorpg's. These games are very expensive to develop. The gameboxes you bought are only the tip of the iceberg. It takes a high subscription base at least 4 years to pay for the development of the game. You can kid yourself and think that this game will last that long thats fine i dont really care. Do you still play D2? why not? because you did it all and better games came along.. thats the future of wow. It's built on the casual gamer model and casual gamer friendly games never ever ever have lasted. Its too easy to level. It's just too easy for a hardcore gamer. They cant crank out enough material to keep people interested at that pace unless they only play a couple hours a week. I know its new and everyone is so happy with it. Tell me that in a year ok. Tell me that when you come back to EQ to see your old friends. Because you know you will. I know you will.. Everyone knows you will.
    I keep hearing on these forums that EQ is dead. Although the casual player base has eroded to wow and some other people have moved on to EQ2 let me tell you EQ is nowhere near a desolate place. My guild still pulls in 60-75 people 4 nights a week to raid. I run pickup raids on my off night and i get 70+ people to raid. EQ is still very much alive. Content is king. EQ is king. Maybe in 6 or 7 years another game can claim to be better, but until they have the track record and the books to prove it i dont wanna hear it.
    Enjoy your games. Just dont make silly posts like this that are all hype and all subjective to the posters opinion. It breeds nothing but hatred for your game. Your not doing your game a service by making posts like this. Posts like this only show how immature a community is.
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    What is all this hate for WoW and CoH? Someone does a game that is actually fun and doesn't require hours of hardcore gaming to get to the good stuff and here comes people saying "it won't last, in 4 months/6 months/1 year it will be dead".
    Well guess what? tell me how many morpg "died"? 1. Earth & Beyond.
    Any others? mmmmmh... nope. UO, AC and EQ are still here. even some not-so-good games as Horizons or AC2 are STILL here.
    The market is filled with casual gamers, CoH is not dead nowaday after months of succesful activity and WoW broke all records of PC selling in one day.... and is not even released in Europe!
    So, nope, sorry. WoW won't be dead by end of 2005.
    10 days to arrive at 60? yeah! if you play like 24/7 and guess what? an experienced hardcore powerplayer takes about the same to get to max in EQ.. surprise surprise ah?
    No one, not even Blizzard, ever said that WoW will revolution the genre. Blizzard NEVER do that. Blizzard takes accomplished ideas and make with them what no one else, to that point, was able to do. a Very fun game open to everybody, not just a niche.
    You might not like WoW for a thousand reasons (for all games out there, there are people loving it and some hating it), but after such a general uproar of reaction from both public and critic, it would be unreasonable to still consider WoW a "crappy" game that will fail in like... 2 months.
    You prefer Eq? fine, but realize that making posts like "Wow? pfft, will die in a year tops" is not that much different than making "Wow! best game evaaar!" With the difference than you are being negative about a game you do not like and maybe never ever played, the second is being positive on a game he plays and appreciate.
    have a nice day.
    Do not hate, but appreciate.

    Sorry but when people come here posting in tone "Are you guys stupid?? Play WoW!", us who do not really consider WoW "our type of game" will get defensive of our stance...Even more so when posts like this start to appear twice a week.

    I do believe this post should have been posted in WoW forum and not here as it will offend people who do not understand why they should feel stupid for not liking WoW.


  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    I stand by what i've said. You can debate it in a year when your playing some other game remembering your great time on WoW.

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  • RammurRammur Member Posts: 575
    WoW is pretty awesome.And it understandable if it not your type everyone got their type.I think right now i lov wow becayue i had just upgrade my computer so well that WoW is the only MMORPG ive actually tried and it runs so smooth for me lol.

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  • saitoesaitoe Member Posts: 62
    After playing FFXI i would think it was the best too. FFXI was a game which only allowed you to solo up until level 10.... the rest of the game HAD to be in a group.

    me- Mom... can you get me a game?

    mom- you can have this instead you dirty basterd!

    *mom takes cigar and puts out the light on my forearm*
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    Credit card declined eh? well let me just give you one of my many YAH!!!
    *throws hand full of credit cards in waiters face*

    me- Mom... can you get me a game?

    mom- you can have this instead you dirty basterd!

    *mom takes cigar and puts out the light on my forearm*
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    Credit card declined eh? well let me just give you one of my many YAH!!!
    *throws hand full of credit cards in waiters face*

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