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Has the Cataclysm announcement done this to anyone else?
LogothX
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Allow me to start by saying that I haven't played this game since Season 3 in the Burning Crusade. I had left the game out of boredom and irritation with the arena system in general. I had found myself doing magisters terrace over and over for a trinket that was a sidegrade at best.
Many lack luster MMORPGs later, I find myself unplugged, so to speak. I had heard praise for WOTLK during my brief stay in Warhammer, but I thought to myself that I'd just find myself in the same position in the end and shrugged it off after much internal debate.
This is the part where I'd say "Being that I havent been playing MMOs, I've done this and this, and so fourth, I've also perfected my dildo craft and am currently attending witch craft classes" but that is not the case. In the end, I'm on my computer nearly 24/7 and I've been doing constructive things such as game creation, as well as some recreational activities such as Team Fortress 2.
Now, I find myself here, a boring releasless summer - still playing TF2 sometimes, a bit of writers block preventing me from moving forward and I hear about the expansion. The thought of a recrafted old world piqued my interest and upon reading up on the rest of the changes; I dare say that I may be a little excited.
After checking out a few (bad) freeshards, I'm impressed that WoW still remains the best performing MMORPGs... Well, not really. Let's face it, the competition for blizzard in this market has been laughable at best; regardless - it was refreshing to have [b]basic[/b] things like abilities actually TRIGGER when you hit them (LOL AOC), melee skills you can use while moving (LOL Aion), and a clean - well performing engine (lol WAR). Now here I sit, wallet in hand wondering whether or not to just grab WOTLK from blizzards website and jumping in... wishing I didn't squander my WOTLK free trial months ago. (I was too lazy to install it). This expansion announcement has been a bit of a curse.
Cliff Notes (Retard edition)
Cataclysm hype makes me feel like giving the game another shot
Left game in TBC because of crappy arena and blizzard thinking New Gear = new content, also; lack of new pvp content
Two part question, one part self serving : Has this happened to anyone else? - Should I even bother at this point?
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Well, there's a lot of stuff to do in WotLK, and the end-game is handled quite a bit better, so I'd say it's worth giving a go, if only for a month or two. Cataclysm hasn't made me want to play WoW right now, it's made me want to play WoW after Cataclysm is released, and knowing I have to wait like a year for it sucks hard.
So I'll fill in the time with other games, I guess.
It's really up to you. I stopped playing out of boredom after playing BC for awhile and wasn't really interested in WOTLK until it actually came out. I tried it and while others are very happy with it, I didn't think it was that great. Sure there are some new things that you geek out a bit over..but after that it's none too new. I started playing again after a long break when I heard about the confirmation of the expansion. I already had an 80 though and found myself bored again within a week.
I started doing the argent tournament dailies...and talked with some old friends..but I still have way too much downtime in the game. Like it's only entertaining when other people are around to do things with. I find myself bored again and wanting a new mmo to come out. It does suck because WoW is a good game, but it just doesn't hold my interest anymore. I can't help but wonder if this is just the fact that I've been playing it since a few months after it was released..and after so many years, there's not a whole lot new they can really do..unless it's reaaaallllly drastic.
Well, the game is meant to be played with other people; but I see what you mean. As a game (Engine and so on) it's great. I wish someone would make a game with RPG like gameplay without any of the tedious elements that have seem to have become obligatory. IE: Monthly fee, Gear grinds. People have become so enamoured with the reward aspect that they forgot that it should be fun to do in the first place. Everytime I take out my wallet and go to the WOTLK page; my mind tells me that "WELP you're going to have to do lots of bgs to get decent gear, oh and this and this OH and if you want the motorcylcle well you'll have to grind up engineering in town instead of actually playing the game".
I too am having the same problem, even been filling in the urge with tf2 also. I have gone back to wow once or twice and enjoyed it for a while, and just got tired of the grind. but for some reason ive really been wanting to jump back in, and lvl up so when CAT xpac comes out i wont be so far behind, and on the other hand i would rather lvl up a char after the xpac, so im not for sure what im gunna do yet.
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Bah, I say once you are off the MMO leash, just roll with it.
Thanks for the retard cliff notes.. it helped me out a lot
But yeah it sort of sparked my interest. It's exciting news whether you're for or against what they are going to do by changing things up. Still.. when I logged back in, I was instantly bored again and remembered why I left in the first place. Just wait for Guild Wars 2 or Final Fantasy XIV
The Cataclysm announcement has reasurred me that I shouldn't go back since everything in the games days are numbered. There is no point in playing now since I already have 80s and anything I do from now on will make no difference.
I don't understand why WoW outdates ever single thing its endgame has, I have played MMOs thats endgame never gets outdated even when an expansion comes out since they keep the same level cap or the gear doesn't really rise in crazy stats....
EDIT: I might not of made it clear but I meant I wouldn't go back during Wotlk but I would when cata is launched
I quit WoW during Season 3 just like you did. When the expansion came out, I wasn't really interested but a real life friend was talking about it so I decided to go pick it up. It really didn't take very long playing WotLK for those memories of why I originally quit to come flooding back. I found the leveling quests to be gruelingly boring, to the point that I couldn't stand even to level to 80. I think I either got part of the way to 71, or part of the way to 72 before I quit again and never looked back.
Some people on here will try to convince you that Blizzard revolutionized the world with the expansion, but while there were some interesting items that came with it, at it's core I found it to be the same old grind, and I knew that even if I had gotten to 80, I would have found the same old gear grind all over again. I check into my old guild's vent everyone once and a while, and every time I do they are all grinding something... Instances, arenas, BG's, raids, it's just a grind grind grind.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Wotlk basically continued the polish and streamline support that WoW has always received since release. So yes, its a better game. However, the activities you will be doing are pretty much what you did in BC.
If you enjoy raiding, you will be meeting up with 24 other people around the same time most of the week to try and take down that next boss and gear up, and when a raid isn't going on, you will be grinding heroics. If you like PVP, you will be grinding away at the BGs (or heroics since they allowed heroic badge drops to be turned in for pvp gear now) or doing arena. If you gear sucks in arena, you will get owned. You dont need the best to do well, but you need the best to compete with the best.
And thats about it. If you are looking to make a constant stream of gold, you will be doing dailies. The endgame is pretty much the same as it was in BC. Of course theres a ton of new stuff to try out like different classes, upgraded talent trees, new battlegrounds, ect. But its basically the same grind as in BC. I personally enjoy focusing on one class for a few months then moving on, but thats just my play style. I am still having fun with this game world and dont mind it.
I have a feeling I'd feel the same way after logging in and playing a few quests. But everytime I say "OK! I'm not going to do it" I wake up the next morning and thinkg "Ah screw it, I'll do it... But first some TF2... ... Okay, well I'll work on the old game construction now... ok, I'll watch some one piece... OK now lets do WoW... ... ... Screw it, I'll play more TF2".
As far as Final Fantasy, after watching gameplay footage I can safely say Im not the least bit interested, Guild Wars 2 has potential; but that hackneyed trailer didn't exactly win me over.
I have a feeling I'd feel the same way after logging in and playing a few quests. But everytime I say "OK! I'm not going to do it" I wake up the next morning and thinkg "Ah screw it, I'll do it... But first some TF2... ... Okay, well I'll work on the old game construction now... ok, I'll watch some one piece... OK now lets do WoW... ... ... Screw it, I'll play more TF2".
As far as Final Fantasy, after watching gameplay footage I can safely say Im not the least bit interested, Guild Wars 2 has potential; but that hackneyed trailer didn't exactly win me over.
I find it funny that you make ignorant conclusions about the new FF game when they haven't released gameplay footage. If you knew German or did any research at all on those videos you would know that the guy talking during the video was not allowing the character to attack, he was talking and explaining what he was going to do then he proceeded to show what move he had explained. I guess what they say is true though ignorance is bliss. I can safely say you are a lazy uneducated person since you couldn't figure that out despite language barriers.
I have a feeling I'd feel the same way after logging in and playing a few quests. But everytime I say "OK! I'm not going to do it" I wake up the next morning and thinkg "Ah screw it, I'll do it... But first some TF2... ... Okay, well I'll work on the old game construction now... ok, I'll watch some one piece... OK now lets do WoW... ... ... Screw it, I'll play more TF2".
As far as Final Fantasy, after watching gameplay footage I can safely say Im not the least bit interested, Guild Wars 2 has potential; but that hackneyed trailer didn't exactly win me over.
I find it funny that you make ignorant conclusions about the new FF game when they haven't released gameplay footage. If you knew German or did any research at all on those videos you would know that the guy talking during the video was not allowing the character to attack, he was talking and explaining what he was going to do then he proceeded to show what move he had explained. I guess what they say is true though ignorance is bliss. I can safely say you are a lazy uneducated person since you couldn't figure that out despite language barriers.
All LogothX said was that she wasnt interested in FF based on what she saw......and you have reached the conclusion that she is lazy, uneducated and ignorant just from that?! lol
I have a feeling I'd feel the same way after logging in and playing a few quests. But everytime I say "OK! I'm not going to do it" I wake up the next morning and thinkg "Ah screw it, I'll do it... But first some TF2... ... Okay, well I'll work on the old game construction now... ok, I'll watch some one piece... OK now lets do WoW... ... ... Screw it, I'll play more TF2".
As far as Final Fantasy, after watching gameplay footage I can safely say Im not the least bit interested, Guild Wars 2 has potential; but that hackneyed trailer didn't exactly win me over.
I find it funny that you make ignorant conclusions about the new FF game when they haven't released gameplay footage. If you knew German or did any research at all on those videos you would know that the guy talking during the video was not allowing the character to attack, he was talking and explaining what he was going to do then he proceeded to show what move he had explained. I guess what they say is true though ignorance is bliss. I can safely say you are a lazy uneducated person since you couldn't figure that out despite language barriers.
All LogothX said was that she wasnt interested in FF based on what she saw......and you have reached the conclusion that she is lazy, uneducated and ignorant just from that?! lol
I would have to agree with him to be honest... ever since those videos got out from GC2009 of SE showing off 2-3 character moves people keep b*itching about it and it is only english speaking gamers that seem to have the stick shoved up their arse, its getting quite annoying mate. Honestly people should bloody well be able to figure that out even if they don't speak german...
All LogothX said was that she wasnt interested in FF based on what she saw......and you have reached the conclusion that she is lazy, uneducated and ignorant just from that?! lol
Someone having a lack of common sense usually lacks in all other areas as well, it isn't that hard to figure out. Anyway thread was derailed that didn't take very long :P Sorry for derailing
Wow, are you people ever OFF? After WoW, I simply don't enjoy passive combat seen in games like FF11 and the upcoming FF12. Keep in mind that there was actually combat in the gameplay video; and it looked like more of the same only with a fresh coat of paint. Having played FF11 already extensively; and having enjoyed skill chains and renkeis; I'll simply say that after WoW's fluid combat, I can't go backwards. I've heard this song and dance before, in fact; I've heard it all too often. We all have. The endless lists of excuses that culimates in failure with these new titles.
"It's a beta!" (Aion, even though the game has been out overseas for some time)
"It's an old build!" (Warhammer Online; that game's still doing well thoug - rite?)
"If you're running out of stuff to do, DONT play so much!" (Age of Conan, ironically; those same people would later cry that there's not enough to do)
"Carebear" (Darkfall online, a game too hardcore to have properly working game engine)
Star Wars, Final Fantasy, The upcoming Aion, they will all meet the same end the previous contenders faced. Mediocrity.
Someone having a lack of common sense usually lacks in all other areas as well, it isn't that hard to figure out. Anyway thread was derailed that didn't take very long :P Sorry for derailing
Get out.
1 skills or 10, actively moving or stationary, I've played Final Fantasy 11 to death back in the day; this is the same idle combat. Hell; even the monsters move in similar fashions. Take your blind faith and go back to the Final Fantasy forums.
Exactly Wrath bores me after reaching 80 and started to grind instances again I lost interest and fled back to my Play Station..Cataclysm opens new doors, although thats what I had thought at bout Wrath and I was wrong. I cease to understand its number one position in MMORPG's
Hi LogothX, I think I am in a similar boat to you. I actually did resubscribe to WoW for a month and actually found myself quite enjoying it. My subscription recently ended and I keep thinking about resubscribing but at the same time I keep finding other things to do instead (working on artwork, watching tv series, even playing magic online lol)......and I keep saying to myself "Ok I'll jump back in in a few days". A part of me knows I will be just wasting my time but another part of me says "Yeah but you know you want to. Go on. Give it another go. Nudge nudge".
I have a similar view to the way I envision myself playing the game......I think. The thing is none of these mmos are actually designed as roleplaying games so the way I would like to play isnt really viable......and no I dont want to sit around typing pretend stories in the chat channel as thats not what I consider to be roleplaying. I can do that in a Yahoo chat group for free. I would prefer to actually play the game I am paying for rather than log in to a game and then "pretend" to play an imaginary one. Sorry but that just doesnt make any sense to me......each to their own of course.
So yeah they are just level grinding treadmills really......thousands of individuals grinding away seperately up the levelling ladder, collecting gear after gear after gear. It is kind of addictive though but all the times I have played before I never seem to get past the earlier 30's......and it seems to have happened to me again. I have been levelling a nightelf rogue and was quite enjoying it......but I would also like to try and get at least vaguely ok at pvp (I'm always rubbish lol) and so far I have found using my rogue to be really tedious and a complete unenjoyable nightmare despite the fact that I've read about how good they can be. I guess I'm just crap ha ha! So now after waffling with my ex-girlfriend I've got it into my head that I want to re-roll a mage.......and off I go again. Aaaaggghhhh!!!!
I do kind of like the idea of grinding for gear in a way because it is kind of addictive but on the other hand I just cant see myself sticking at it all when it comes to all the bigger dungeons later in the game........I just know my attention and interest will wane.......but on the other hand I would like to actually see that later content. I also dont think you are alone at all regarding the effect the upcoming cataclysm expansion is having on you. I have heard about people wanting to get in and experience as much of the game as they can before things change......because once cataclysm hits there wont be any going back to check out "the old WoW".
I have found all the other so-called AAA mmos to be rather tedious and weak. They all (well...mostly all) offer pretty much the same old thing except that WoW just seems to do it better than any of them. I tried WAR when it came out and found it to be totally awful beyond belief (how can someone make a game soooo boring. PvP focused? Yeah right! Cobbled it all together at the last minute more like). I also had a go at getting into EVE on several occasions as I have a lot of respect for that game but it always felt like I was working rather than having fun. Tried AoC and thought it was actually quite well done but lacking in the fun department for me personally. I've gone back to EQ2 on various occasions but I always end up hating the uninspired game world and just general lifeless feel to the whole game. It always seemed too child-like for my tastes. "Oh the terrible Bogglewarts have stolen grannies cake. Please help me get it back". Ermmm no thanks.
So I keep drifting back to WoW as everything else just seems to be.....well.....crap I guess. Aion might have some appeal when it comes out over here but I have a feeling thats gonna get tedious fast.....although the pvp might hold my attention. I'll have to wait and see I guess. I would actually really like to see an mmo take on the title of "the virtual sequel to Dark Age of Camelot" as it would be great to play a proper rvr game that has more than 2 player factions to choose from. Fallen Earth might be able to offer that. Who knows. There are actually a whole bunch of rather promising games on the way so I think things are looking rather good. Its just that at the moment WoW seems to still be the only worthwhile game around. Ahhh screw it I'm gonna resubscribe to WoW and rol up that mage......but I'll do it tommorow......yeah there's always tommorow
It sounds like you are ready to jump back into the crappy arena you left...lol little change. Or jump into the new bg's for hand me down arena gear for your reward. Don't hope for the entire set as you only get a few pieces of hand me down lol gear. BTW if you like weapons that consist of a stick with thorns in it you will like WOTLK. Oh, and you will recognize many previous things cut and pasted from areas in the original WoW. Spend the cash and join the fun.
Eh you sound like the typical american/western gamer that knows nothing outside of your stolen culture. If it isn't jump-up-and-down pew pew die quickly quickly quickly insta insta insta halo then you won't like something more sophisticated.
This is actually kind of funny. I did mention I liked skill chaining and mixing of FF11, but that I didn't like the idle combat... You know what would be great? If a game had gameplay like WoW only deeper with skill synergy and some unpredictability. Of course, you'd know I'd like this sort of thing if you'd have bothered to take more than three seconds to actually comprehend what I wrote in reply. More options and more controls for the player would mean more complexity if done correctly.
Funny how you think the game will fail when the last game was a complete success and is still one of the top MMOs 'in the world' yes there is a world outside of america and they also have gamers which really like other styles of games besides the insta-easy fest you love.
Aion was a sucess simply because of the WoW fiasco in china. sickly addicts looking for their fix went over to Aion. That doesn't mean the game will do well here. Oh, it'll survive. Warhammer is still lingering around, as is Lineage II and DDO. That doesn't make the games any less sub standard. It is narrow minded nonsense like this that's holding MMORPGs back as whole. Now I wonder how you will mis-construe this particular back and fourth... Oh, I have an idea! How about you stop posting. WOW boy howdy; that would sure show me!
Exactly Wrath bores me after reaching 80 and started to grind instances again I lost interest and fled back to my Play Station..Cataclysm opens new doors, although thats what I had thought at bout Wrath and I was wrong. I cease to understand its number one position in MMORPG's
It's simple when you give it a bit of thought. WoW remains on top simply due to how spectacularly inept the competition is.
AoC launches too early, game engine in shambles, poorly thought out concepts that still plague it to this day. Many mechanics here have no place in a multiplayer game. It's made a valiant effort to rebound; but in the end - there's just too much wrong with it. Input lag, high system requirements, broken sieges, INPUT LAG, and the melee caster divide are what will weigh this game down.
Warhammer's problems are much more severe, as it suffers from a horrendously inferior engine that cannot support the large encounters it boasted. The supposed 40 level "beggining" turned into a massive grind not far from launch, and that's for good reason. The game after tier 2 peters off and runs out of ideas. Once you get to 40 you realize you paid 59.99 to fight in an empty field over meaningless and identical objectives with an inferior combat and graphics engine.
Champions Online : Too easy
Darkfall : ... Again
WoW will be at the top and STAY at the top until someone decides to think outside of the box and... I don't know - release a game thats fit to be called a full release. Maybe have some things that original concepts, do some insane things like learn from the mistakes of others. That sort of daft thing.
FFXI not Aion
I have not played Aion or mentioned anything about Aion so I don't know where your closed mind is coming up with that.
FFXI not Aion
I have not played Aion or mentioned anything about Aion so I don't know where your closed mind is coming up with that.
Thats it huh? That's all you have to latch onto? Well then, that's that. I reiterate : Get out.
FFXI not Aion
I have not played Aion or mentioned anything about Aion so I don't know where your closed mind is coming up with that.
Thats it huh? That's all you have to latch onto? Well then, that's that. I reiterate : Get out.
kind of hard to argue with someone that doesn't post about anything I was talking about? Aion is just a place for WoW addicts and burn outs to go...how can I argue with that when I agree? I lol'd at the 'get out' coming from a 30yr old in their mums basement arguing with a teen and getting one-upped :P
Vel chill out... you guys are still at it? geez...
I don't really agree with him about the FFXIV thing and trolled him earlier for a post or two but thats it, no big deal and I hope he didn't take it personally. If FFXIV turns out like those videos show I will probably dislike it too, my german just tells me they weren't actively trying to show off gameplay.
I don't get where me being American has some kind of negative effect on my cultural outlooks? I love Asian games so I think your arguement fails that American's dislike anything outside of their culture. Go generalization
What does any of this have to do with Cataclysm?
Wow this thread degenerated fast......and all because LogothX's opinion on the gameplay in the new Final Fantasy game doesnt match up with what a few other people think.
I think Aion will do much better than AoC or WAR but then thats not exactly difficult to predict is it. I would probably place Aion at the higher end of mediocre - fun for a while, well made and fairly solid but it will probably get quite dull rather quickly. Then Blizzards next expansion will come out and it will all be back to square one again with WoW still on top. Other games companies have to release new games to compete with Wow and yet all Blizzard has to do is release an expansion to knock them to one side. Its kind of funny really in a tragic kind of way.
Well I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that something is gonna be good sooner or later. I mean surely there has to be "something" lol
haha m8 the exact same thing happened to me. :P
i have played a small part of WoW when TBC released, tried to focus on arena when my raiding career got swept away and that failed (i hate arena). When Wotlk released i picked it up charged for 80 played it for 2 months with all dungeons etc (heroic) still being hard and then quited again only having seen naxxrammas (sweet memories from back when i was 60) and obsidian sanctum.
Now Cataclysm has been anounced. Revamp of Azaroth in a terible way destruction of a lot of things i knew and cherished. Worgen as a playable race! YES YES YES
how can u not love it... and last bot not least Death Wing has returned. Being the semi-lore junky i am characters like illidan and death wing have me intrested. Those characters wich are known all over the lands. to Defeat those characters is awsome.
another thing wich spiked my intrest is rated BG's thank god blizzard have you finaly noticed that not evryone likes arena;s that we want to PvP for fun in a chaotic setup, now they only have to destroy resilience on gear and make changes to the damage on players so that a tank can actually be in Tankgear and be very tough to kill..
So yes i now find myself playing again, catching up to whatever i missed so to say. and with apearantly alot of people on the server still knowing me there is no problem in getting back into the fray.