What can i say that early about AION after some hours of playing....my 74 years old dad has no trouble playing AION while he had much trouble playing AOC early levels.
The graphic isnt great and compared to AOC it is inferior by far.
I am not impressed yet of anything i encountered but as my good friends will give it a try i do the same and hope it will keep me/us somewhat pleased til SW:TOR arrives...
Maybe better things await at higher levels...
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Any melee pvper knows you wouldn't turn the auto follow off of any class in any game with a melee char ever. It's basically stupid because it turns it into every other korean free 2 play where you are supposed to stand at each other and beat the shit out of each other and whoever has the best gear wins. You are removing skill from freedom of movement and replacing it with code dependancy.
An auto follow is literally game breaking for PVP. If they use it in the SEVER TOURNAMENTS IN THE OTHER COUNTRIES IT IS OBVIOUSLY A LARGE ADVANTAGE.
This is what i'm trying to say to everyone.
AS a pvper this option is so lame.
Oh well, label me as a troll or hater but thats a game killer.
You hate Auto follow in PVP games yet you play EVE? What?
Not to mention that it can be turned off. Yes, it is called an option menu, its called a mouse, its called a button, its called a click.
The Auto-follow is actually a god-sent in aerial combat since gauging distance when in mid-air is difficult due to the extra angles they can come at you.
Plus if a player does not even want to push a button to stop when it is so easy to do, then are they playing a game or watching movie? Motor skill of a champion.
Read again, the best PVPers in the game use auto follow because it's a million times easier. It lowers the skill needed to combat someone successfully. It puts everyone on the same level playing field with crutches. In wow and other free form games you have the option of circle strafing and things like that to avoid damage. In AION damage is more guarenteed. Less "Juking" of players.
Movement bonus. Don't know what that is? Well, interesting.
The funny part is most of what you said can be explained by the Movement bonus system and the customization that comes at mid levels.
Only thing I have to point out is Aion use a different system, but a person who doesn't even look check out the option menu much less the the systems in place wouldn't know that.
No, it doesn't work the way you said about damage in Aion except in low levels. Once mid levels, things change.
If you want me to explain why movement bonus system explain your concerns, I be happy to, but if someone actually cared about a system they'd look up online.
Why would you focus on the movement system if no one in PVP tournaments and all the most famous PVPers never use it? It's nearly useless when being autofollowed because as you're busy with the "movement system" you'll be having your ass handed to you but the guy that doesn't have to focus on movement.
I mean fuck, watch the videos yourself. It's autofollow the whole match.
Of course the game is WoW-like. If you expected anything else, I'm sorry for you.
I enjoyed classic WoW and I will enjoy Aion as well (already am), especially with the better done PvP that'll be waiting in abyss later on. The design is nice and I enjoy the graphics on high settings as well.
People are so demanding nowadays.. "give us something totally new, that's never been done before!"
Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW wasn't the first one either. Not by a long shot.
No excuse for a system like this? You assume that everyone shares your opinion of the system. I have played WoW.. you can't be serious that it's not easy to jump around someone like a retard. WoW is largely gear dependent and much less about tatics. If you don't like the game, then move on. You post on every topic about Aion making sure to bash it. You're putting a whole lot of energy into this. Just move on, we all know you don't like it. I may not like it either, but I'm going to give it a fair shake.
Same old stuff, no real depth of character or anything like that. Very WoW like but seem to pull it off worse with clumsier controls. Graphics are really nice. Good graphics. The one thing I could see being a major problem is the attacking "feature". On my warrior if you click attack it will autofollow/attack at the same time. How could this be good for PVP or inject any skill into it what so ever? Ugh. Does it feel like they've been in release for a whole year? No. Same old boring quests. Would I pay 50$ for release and a monthly when I can just stay subbed to another game? NO. NO WAY IN HELL. I mean good attempt, just...no. This style of play just turns into every other style of korean gameplay. 1. Have better gear and have spells queued up in the right order. Roast someone. Rinse and repeat. Just the fact that the game doesn't have a free movement system for pvp really douches it up. I dunno, I won't be wasting my money on this. You can call me a troll or whatever you'd like but I saw the PVP videos and everything...no. Some people will like it, probably the PVE gang.
Welcome you just won a ticket to the failboat, zomg it has autofeature ? it's so gamebreaking your entire family will weep take a hike, next time make a more constructive post about whats not to like
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Same old boring quests ? you havent even played beta for 1 hour, and do you want to convince me otherwise the first hour you play it wont have the same quest ?.
I lost count of how many trolls posted in this thread. Some of you people need to learn how not to be human fire alarms.
Complaining about auto follow? lol, I guess jumping around and through your opponents like a complete fool takes so much more skill.
Aion is a grinder? No moreso that WoW or other MMOs. How do you figure that an MMO is an "Asian grinder" after only 10 minutes of play? Perhaps if you think Aion is a grinder at any point in the first 20 levels you should do yourself a favor and just walk away from the genre as a whole. You are burned out. Console games might fight your playstyle better at this point.
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Why would you focus on the movement system if no one in PVP tournaments and all the most famous PVPers never use it? It's nearly useless when being autofollowed because as you're busy with the "movement system" you'll be having your ass handed to you but the guy that doesn't have to focus on movement. I mean fuck, watch the videos yourself. It's autofollow the whole match.
You are rather blind or you been watching the wrong videos. You didn't notice the small course adjustments when they are in the correct range? You also did not notice how some of the ways they moved was not possible on auto-follow? Some even dashed past their target in order to get the attack bonus and to perform a drive-by attack.
Seriously, watch the Assassin tournament videos on youtube or simply keep thinking that you are correct.
They used both auto-follow and manual movements, but you have to pay attention. Hmm, actually, I might have just wasted my breath yet again, those who would not listen, would not listen.
A bit dissapointing. I wasn't expecting a WoW killer but the game reminds me too much of F2P korean grinders with much better graphics, maybe because of the controls. It's clearly better than those but in my opinion it's worse than AoC, Warhammer and even Champions Online. This game seems to lack soul. It ain't too bad and I'd even play it for a month or two but forced PVP kills it for me (carebear alert!). I'd endure the PVP if the game was worth it but sadly this is not the case. Just my opinion.
This i have to agree with.....again Just my opinion.
"I lost count of how many trolls posted in this thread. Some of you people need to learn how not to be human fire alarms.
Complaining about auto follow? lol, I guess jumping around and through your opponents like a complete fool takes so much more skill.
Aion is a grinder? No moreso that WoW or other MMOs. How do you figure that an MMO is an "Asian grinder" after only 10 minutes of play? Perhaps if you think Aion is a grinder at any point in the first 20 levels you should do yourself a favor and just walk away from the genre as a whole. You are burned out. Console games might fight your playstyle better at this point."
Too linear, this game makes WoW look good. I thought I would never say that ><. Back to WoW I go.
I must agree. As a CB player, I thought it was very good, after today's OB, I am retracting my purchase through a charge back...ecchhhh! What a mistake!
Going on first impressions, Aion made a pretty good impression on me. It has a certain something. Whether it's the art style, or the fact that it seemed fairly polished, I don't know really.
At first blush, it really did feel a lot like WoW, but why does that have to be a bad thing? It's felt unique and somewhat familiar at the same time.
I personally won't play it, but I think it has a shot to put up some pretty big subscription numbers.
I'm just waiting for a F2P overhyped sandbox WoW clone with full PVP, epic raid bosses, instanced group content, and Crysis-quality graphics to come out. That, or something fun.
Too linear, this game makes WoW look good. I thought I would never say that ><. Back to WoW I go.
I must agree. As a CB player, I thought it was very good, after today's OB, I am retracting my purchase through a charge back...ecchhhh! What a mistake!
Screen us your char if you played the game
As for the rest , I am SO glad that you will not play the game.
OB seems to be good not only for bugs fix, but also to keep away the QQ's when the game launch.
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Metalhead, you got heart pills nearby? I wouldnt want you to keel over while you roid rage.
LOL. Don't be mean to metalhead. It's got to be lonely in the EVE and Ryzom forums.
Lonely? Eve online forums are one of the most active on this site. As for Ryzom it has one of the best communities since Swg so I would rather just play the game with them.
Personally I wouldn't even be in this or any other Aion thread if you guys wouldn't have spammed the forums with "OMGZZZ AION IS WOW KILLER AND THE NEXTZZZ DAoC!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!" for months, Shit gets annoying after a while.
When you label a game gods gift to MMOs please make sure the game isnt average just like all the other themeparks.
I could understand the excitement of a new game, hell I hate WoW also. But seriously you guys really hyped Aion up way too much.
It's a nice little game and I'm happy that you found a little no risk pvp game to play but is this really the second coming of MMO christ?
No not at all.
I love how all of the guys that said this game would destroy WoW and was basically the best game since DAoC are now taking their words back and saying its a nice alternative to Wow LOL!
Anyway I'm done with these Aion threads. I will toss Aion in the same old, same old pile with LotRO, VG, EQ2, WoW, AoC and WAR.
Personally I wouldn't even be in this or any other Aion thread if you guys wouldn't have spammed the forums with "OMGZZZ AION IS WOW KILLER AND THE NEXTZZZ DAoC!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!" for months, Shit gets annoying after a while.
so essentially some worked up players post that stuff and you believe that it must be true? I mean you've been around, you've seen all the wow killer posts and such. It just goes on and on. No game is a "wow killer". Just doesn't work that way.
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Personally I wouldn't even be in this or any other Aion thread if you guys wouldn't have spammed the forums with "OMGZZZ AION IS WOW KILLER AND THE NEXTZZZ DAoC!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!" for months, Shit gets annoying after a while.
so essentially some worked up players post that stuff and you believe that it must be true? I mean you've been around, you've seen all the wow killer posts and such. It just goes on and on. No game is a "wow killer". Just doesn't work that way.
I don't mind thousands of threads on Aion in the Aion forums but to post that shit in WoW, general, Pc gaming, off topic, AoC, WAR and Lotro forums it get s abit crazy.
Imo this game deserves the flames DF got. Four months we've been spammed by the Aion fanbois.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now. Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
Nice trolling. Took you a bit too long on this one, though.
1. I've been trying all day to get into OB, but for some reason, my box is having GameGuard issues. Otherwise, I wouldn't even be here.
2. Where have I ever said this game would be the best ever?
3. Why do you have to watch the Eve Alliance Tournament? Not good enough to play in it? Or maybe you don't want to risk anything?
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You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
Dont be so surprised. The game is not officially released until 9/22. And as far as I am concerned, I wont be buying the game until 9/22 and in case you cant figure out whats coming next: I wont be playing the game until 9/22. Also, is it at all ironic to you that you arent playing your game either (WHICH IS OFFICIALLY RELEASED) -- you are watching it on youtube ? -- so its not ok in your eyes to read forums on the game someone likes, but it is OK to watch youtube of the game you like, which is what you are doing ?
your double standard BS is funny, in a pathetic kinda way.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
Actually who are these "You guys?" I mean most of the people I saw on forums only said, it is nothing new, but it is interesting and have nice PvP system. You are actually one of the few people that even used the word awesome.
Again, what do you mean we don't have pvp with risk? Did you even look at the Abyss ranking system and how it works? I mean sure in EVE you lose alot, but does that mean you are somehow better for a game's design? I mean if you made EVE then I don't mind saying you are better.
I am on the forum because my friend have been hogging my OBT account and my PC for the last 7 hours. Instead of being able to play Aion, I am forced to watch him play and responding to people like you.
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What can i say that early about AION after some hours of playing....my 74 years old dad has no trouble playing AION while he had much trouble playing AOC early levels.
The graphic isnt great and compared to AOC it is inferior by far.
I am not impressed yet of anything i encountered but as my good friends will give it a try i do the same and hope it will keep me/us somewhat pleased til SW:TOR arrives...
Maybe better things await at higher levels...
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This is what i'm trying to say to everyone.
AS a pvper this option is so lame.
Oh well, label me as a troll or hater but thats a game killer.
You hate Auto follow in PVP games yet you play EVE? What?
Not to mention that it can be turned off. Yes, it is called an option menu, its called a mouse, its called a button, its called a click.
The Auto-follow is actually a god-sent in aerial combat since gauging distance when in mid-air is difficult due to the extra angles they can come at you.
Plus if a player does not even want to push a button to stop when it is so easy to do, then are they playing a game or watching movie? Motor skill of a champion.
Read again, the best PVPers in the game use auto follow because it's a million times easier. It lowers the skill needed to combat someone successfully. It puts everyone on the same level playing field with crutches. In wow and other free form games you have the option of circle strafing and things like that to avoid damage. In AION damage is more guarenteed. Less "Juking" of players.
Movement bonus. Don't know what that is? Well, interesting.
The funny part is most of what you said can be explained by the Movement bonus system and the customization that comes at mid levels.
Only thing I have to point out is Aion use a different system, but a person who doesn't even look check out the option menu much less the the systems in place wouldn't know that.
No, it doesn't work the way you said about damage in Aion except in low levels. Once mid levels, things change.
If you want me to explain why movement bonus system explain your concerns, I be happy to, but if someone actually cared about a system they'd look up online.
The game is Mediocre at best. Not worth 50$ + sub
Why would you focus on the movement system if no one in PVP tournaments and all the most famous PVPers never use it? It's nearly useless when being autofollowed because as you're busy with the "movement system" you'll be having your ass handed to you but the guy that doesn't have to focus on movement.
I mean fuck, watch the videos yourself. It's autofollow the whole match.
Of course the game is WoW-like. If you expected anything else, I'm sorry for you.
I enjoyed classic WoW and I will enjoy Aion as well (already am), especially with the better done PvP that'll be waiting in abyss later on. The design is nice and I enjoy the graphics on high settings as well.
People are so demanding nowadays.. "give us something totally new, that's never been done before!"
Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW wasn't the first one either. Not by a long shot.
No excuse for a system like this? You assume that everyone shares your opinion of the system. I have played WoW.. you can't be serious that it's not easy to jump around someone like a retard. WoW is largely gear dependent and much less about tatics. If you don't like the game, then move on. You post on every topic about Aion making sure to bash it. You're putting a whole lot of energy into this. Just move on, we all know you don't like it. I may not like it either, but I'm going to give it a fair shake.
open beta = loser troll posts
Momo sucks, I have proof.
Welcome you just won a ticket to the failboat, zomg it has autofeature ? it's so gamebreaking your entire family will weep take a hike, next time make a more constructive post about whats not to like
-1 entire post.
Same old boring quests ? you havent even played beta for 1 hour, and do you want to convince me otherwise the first hour you play it wont have the same quest ?.
I lost count of how many trolls posted in this thread. Some of you people need to learn how not to be human fire alarms.
Complaining about auto follow? lol, I guess jumping around and through your opponents like a complete fool takes so much more skill.
Aion is a grinder? No moreso that WoW or other MMOs. How do you figure that an MMO is an "Asian grinder" after only 10 minutes of play? Perhaps if you think Aion is a grinder at any point in the first 20 levels you should do yourself a favor and just walk away from the genre as a whole. You are burned out. Console games might fight your playstyle better at this point.
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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You are rather blind or you been watching the wrong videos. You didn't notice the small course adjustments when they are in the correct range? You also did not notice how some of the ways they moved was not possible on auto-follow? Some even dashed past their target in order to get the attack bonus and to perform a drive-by attack.
Seriously, watch the Assassin tournament videos on youtube or simply keep thinking that you are correct.
They used both auto-follow and manual movements, but you have to pay attention. Hmm, actually, I might have just wasted my breath yet again, those who would not listen, would not listen.
This i have to agree with.....again Just my opinion.
I love this game so I dont really care if people say its bad or what not
"I lost count of how many trolls posted in this thread. Some of you people need to learn how not to be human fire alarms.
Complaining about auto follow? lol, I guess jumping around and through your opponents like a complete fool takes so much more skill.
Aion is a grinder? No moreso that WoW or other MMOs. How do you figure that an MMO is an "Asian grinder" after only 10 minutes of play? Perhaps if you think Aion is a grinder at any point in the first 20 levels you should do yourself a favor and just walk away from the genre as a whole. You are burned out. Console games might fight your playstyle better at this point."
Finally, someone with some sense.
I must agree. As a CB player, I thought it was very good, after today's OB, I am retracting my purchase through a charge back...ecchhhh! What a mistake!
Going on first impressions, Aion made a pretty good impression on me. It has a certain something. Whether it's the art style, or the fact that it seemed fairly polished, I don't know really.
At first blush, it really did feel a lot like WoW, but why does that have to be a bad thing? It's felt unique and somewhat familiar at the same time.
I personally won't play it, but I think it has a shot to put up some pretty big subscription numbers.
I'm just waiting for a F2P overhyped sandbox WoW clone with full PVP, epic raid bosses, instanced group content, and Crysis-quality graphics to come out. That, or something fun.
I must agree. As a CB player, I thought it was very good, after today's OB, I am retracting my purchase through a charge back...ecchhhh! What a mistake!
Screen us your char if you played the game
As for the rest , I am SO glad that you will not play the game.
OB seems to be good not only for bugs fix, but also to keep away the QQ's when the game launch.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
/wave at all the haters
Looks like we got you all in one place, now wheres my can of RAID
Metalhead, you got heart pills nearby?
I wouldnt want you to keel over while you roid rage.
LOL. Don't be mean to metalhead. It's got to be lonely in the EVE and Ryzom forums.
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LOL. Don't be mean to metalhead. It's got to be lonely in the EVE and Ryzom forums.
Lonely? Eve online forums are one of the most active on this site. As for Ryzom it has one of the best communities since Swg so I would rather just play the game with them.
Personally I wouldn't even be in this or any other Aion thread if you guys wouldn't have spammed the forums with "OMGZZZ AION IS WOW KILLER AND THE NEXTZZZ DAoC!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!" for months, Shit gets annoying after a while.
When you label a game gods gift to MMOs please make sure the game isnt average just like all the other themeparks.
I could understand the excitement of a new game, hell I hate WoW also. But seriously you guys really hyped Aion up way too much.
It's a nice little game and I'm happy that you found a little no risk pvp game to play but is this really the second coming of MMO christ?
No not at all.
I love how all of the guys that said this game would destroy WoW and was basically the best game since DAoC are now taking their words back and saying its a nice alternative to Wow LOL!
Anyway I'm done with these Aion threads. I will toss Aion in the same old, same old pile with LotRO, VG, EQ2, WoW, AoC and WAR.
Enjoy I guess.
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so essentially some worked up players post that stuff and you believe that it must be true? I mean you've been around, you've seen all the wow killer posts and such. It just goes on and on. No game is a "wow killer". Just doesn't work that way.
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so essentially some worked up players post that stuff and you believe that it must be true? I mean you've been around, you've seen all the wow killer posts and such. It just goes on and on. No game is a "wow killer". Just doesn't work that way.
I don't mind thousands of threads on Aion in the Aion forums but to post that shit in WoW, general, Pc gaming, off topic, AoC, WAR and Lotro forums it get s abit crazy.
Imo this game deserves the flames DF got. Four months we've been spammed by the Aion fanbois.
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Right then. So go do that.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
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Nice trolling. Took you a bit too long on this one, though.
1. I've been trying all day to get into OB, but for some reason, my box is having GameGuard issues. Otherwise, I wouldn't even be here.
2. Where have I ever said this game would be the best ever?
3. Why do you have to watch the Eve Alliance Tournament? Not good enough to play in it? Or maybe you don't want to risk anything?
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Right then. So go do that.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
Dont be so surprised. The game is not officially released until 9/22. And as far as I am concerned, I wont be buying the game until 9/22 and in case you cant figure out whats coming next: I wont be playing the game until 9/22. Also, is it at all ironic to you that you arent playing your game either (WHICH IS OFFICIALLY RELEASED) -- you are watching it on youtube ? -- so its not ok in your eyes to read forums on the game someone likes, but it is OK to watch youtube of the game you like, which is what you are doing ?
your double standard BS is funny, in a pathetic kinda way.
Right then. So go do that.
You guys have been saying this game is the best game ever for a few months now. Im shocked that such a awesome game Isn't keeping you off the forums right now.
Anyway I'm not play my game right now im watching day two of the Eve Alliance tournament on CCPs youtube channel.
Good to see some pvp with risk aye? Oh that's right you don't have any of that lol.
Actually who are these "You guys?" I mean most of the people I saw on forums only said, it is nothing new, but it is interesting and have nice PvP system. You are actually one of the few people that even used the word awesome.
Again, what do you mean we don't have pvp with risk? Did you even look at the Abyss ranking system and how it works? I mean sure in EVE you lose alot, but does that mean you are somehow better for a game's design? I mean if you made EVE then I don't mind saying you are better.
I am on the forum because my friend have been hogging my OBT account and my PC for the last 7 hours. Instead of being able to play Aion, I am forced to watch him play and responding to people like you.