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Are we really giving $ to this kind of incompetence 2 weeks from live?

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  • MorgarenMorgaren Member UncommonPosts: 397

    Sorry I forgot to mention this, but I think it deserves to be said, that not all of the problems that were experienced by people is soley their fault, I understand that NCSoft has some issues to work out too, my point is/was, that your experience does not denote everyones, and if you play lots of MMO's and see lots of lag in each one, look at the lowest common denominator.

  • NekrataalNekrataal Member Posts: 557
    Originally posted by Pocahinha

    Originally posted by Baseline


    This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.
    These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.
    Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.
    Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.
    Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.
    No thanks.

    Play a real mmo??? Darkfall...or if u dont like full loot go Fallen Earth?? I mean Aion?? ROFL wtf? CO??? wtf?? to play wow clones play the best..wow itself...

     

    Wow! way to be on topic troll.

    But just to answer you here, maybe some people actually wants a little chalenge in there games. Or what about wanting to play something that is balanced & where your skills means more than your gear.

     

    I'm sorry but WoW doesn't have any of this. Now you can go back to your game of choice & let other choose want they feel is the better game for them... ty.

  • C0MAC0MA Member Posts: 522
    Originally posted by Pocahinha

    Originally posted by Baseline


    This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.
    These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.
    Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.
    Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.
    Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.
    No thanks.

    Play a real mmo??? Darkfall...or if u dont like full loot go Fallen Earth?? I mean Aion?? ROFL wtf? CO??? wtf?? to play wow clones play the best..wow itself...

     



     

    Stop acting like a kid.. Darkfall was fun and I maxed my bank out in player loot but it was a who could leave their pc on the longest macroing archery type game. Fallen Earth is garbage IMO... the PvE is as bad as Darkfall... If people play AION they like AION if people play WoW they like WoW... Champions Online, Age of Conan, Warhammer and any other game you'd want to insult... Grow up kid, people vary in things they enjoy and your opinion about a good game is equivilant to a pile of shit outside of your game of choice's forums.

    "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
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  • FastTxFastTx Member UncommonPosts: 756

    I have not had one single issue in the OB or CB relating to gameguard issues or lag/networking issues. If you are quitting Aion because the Open Beta networking was a problem when CB was fine then it's your loss. I'd wait it out, by the end of the week the issues should be fixed, if they aren't you will have something to complain about.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Morgaren

    Originally posted by Jimmydean
     
    People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At walls.



     

    Yeah I know,  me too.

    The thing that gets me is everyone thinks because they are having lag problems that the ENTIRE world is having the exact same problems. Talked to one guy in game who said he didn't understand cause his "cpu ran other games well enough, like command and conquer and Black and white, Intergrated graphics should be good enough right?"

    Sometimes its YOUR connection not theirs, Sometimes its YOUR ISP, or YOUR computer can't handle a game, (I'm not hating on people who don't have an awesome machine, I was there once too, just work hard, it'll happen for you one day)

    Just case and point, I live on the TX coast (yes people your physical location can have something to do with your ping) and have a 3 Mb/s connection we had a Open Beta party, four people connecting to Aion, on the same connection, NO LAG we played for about 12 hours total yesterday, (It's kinda sad, I admit that, but when you work 60hrs a week and you got a three day weekend you gorge on doing what you love)

    I take that back one of the players on a laptop was connecting to the network wirelessly and they had some lag spikes, probably wasn't NCSofts fault though, probably something more along the lines of being on a laptop with a wireless connection.

    But yes I expierenced no lag, very few bugs, which I reported cause its a BETA and the reason they let you play is so you can report bugs so they can fix them.

    People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At skulls



     

    It was happening in regions.  So while some might lag out or rubberband to hell you could be playing fine and not have any issues.  Probably one of the most amusing things I saw in chat yesterday was some lambasting those saying they had lag because it was their pc or internet connection only to see them crying about it themselves later in the evening.

    The lag problems are a known issue and are being worked on by NCSoft.  Of course, this isn't saying I agree in the least with the op but there is currently an issue right now.  Why it's affecting different regions at different times and not accross the board is beyond me but i suppose that's why NCSoft is trying to gather information to try and pinpoint the problem.

    The game isn't live though so far as people getting this worked up over it...just seems silly to me.  It's frustating to be sure but it is ob after all.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • RoldRold Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Pocahinha


    Play a real mmo??? Darkfall...or if u dont like full loot go Fallen Earth?? I mean Aion?? ROFL wtf? CO??? wtf?? to play wow clones play the best..wow itself...

     

     

    Dear Pocahontas..hina please stay away from us with your great knowlegede about "real" mmorpgs.

    Or to say it in words you understand: I mean Hackfail???? OFMGROFLWTFBBQ?!

     

    To the OP:

    I don't see any incompetence at NC Soft's side at the moment, you may share your experiences with us so we can understand why you are so angry.

    [X] drill here for new monitor

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880
    Originally posted by Pocahinha

    Originally posted by Baseline


    This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.
    These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.
    Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.
    Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.
    Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.
    No thanks.

    Play a real mmo??? Darkfall...or if u dont like full loot go Fallen Earth?? I mean Aion?? ROFL wtf? CO??? wtf?? to play wow clones play the best..wow itself...

     

     

    I'm a fan of Aion and Wow and there really isn't much in common besides the tradition similarites that ALL MMO"S HAVE.

  • Marcus-Marcus- Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Originally posted by bastii

    Originally posted by taurak


    Aion is having some server issues...

     

    lol, "some"

    It's more like every issue possible. Disconnects, lag, gameguard issues, accounts not detected, beta board unreachable..etc. This s beta is a joke, since many people bought the collector's edition (luckily not me) to play beta. 



     

    The root of thier problem are the words, "play" and "beta"..

  • jbgunzjbgunz Member UncommonPosts: 27

    lol dude chill the !@%! out, its called beta for a reason. What planet do you live on? beta is to work the kinks out. To bad ur not playin cause I'd wtfpawn your cry baby ass in game!

  • SephyrMKSephyrMK Member Posts: 23

    Dude, it's beta! Of course there will be bugs and lots of lag, how do you think they'll debug the game if there arent xxxxxxxxx people trying to get in and constantly crashing the servers? Open beta is for ironing small bugs, checking connectivity with the outside world, stressing the servers to see how many players can play on one server with comfort and lots of other stuff....

     

    STOP ACTING LIKE DAMN KIDS!

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    why the hell are people all doom and gloom its beta they are brand new servers that have never had this amount of people on at once. Just like every other game server it takes a little time to break em in so they run smooth. Also no idea if any of yall played WAR or AoC at release but so far this beta tops both of em by a lot

  • jaxsundanejaxsundane Member Posts: 2,776
    Originally posted by Baseline


    This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.
    These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.
    Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.
    Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.
    Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.
    No thanks.



     

    Maybe you are just so angry you forgot to include what your beef is with this game, not sure but this doesn't work for you because as stated before you just come off like a troll this way.

     

    Ok so what I'm getting from all of this is you op are bitching about lag and server stability issues in an open beta?Ok in that case you may not be a troll but you are a total tool then, open beta implies that you have not yet been charged for the game correct?  Well play your part and help them test out the equipment or quit bitching and moaning and play when theh damn game is released.  It's a shame you have the failcom tag because that was infact a movement that had validity to it and with your current rants you just belittle those points as well.

    but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....

  • smellysockssmellysocks Member Posts: 230
    Originally posted by Baseline


    This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.
    These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.
    Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.
    Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.
    Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.
    No thanks.

     

    Do you understand what Beta is ? i bet your a completely incompetent WoW refugee. Sure the lag is bad for some people, but that is really the only complaint I see as valid at this point. The game itself is amazing. You cannot compare a game in beta to your favorite MMO which has been out for several years.

    If you think this is a Free Game Time Week or something like that, you need to remember that you are technically a "tester" and are helping this company stress test their servers. If you are experiencing lag then it's a good thing. This means they are aware of the problem and is the entire reason they are having an open beta.

    You cannot and should not judge server stability from Beta. I've been in tons of MMO betas and this is BY FAR not the worst or even close to the worst. Had any of you played Warhammer, Vanguard, or Age of Conan?? They were rediculous and horrible on most fronts.

    And lets not forget World of Warcraft, first beta testing days, i bet you weren't even born then. But the server was crashing ever hour.

    Aion has its core gameplay features pretty well refined, so let's hope that they get this lag situation under control so we can all have an enjoyable launch. I'm here for the long haul because I see so much potential in this game.

    tbh i cant even be bothered to insult someone like you, take your incompetance somewhere else >.>

  • Marcus-Marcus- Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    why the hell are people all doom and gloom its beta they are brand new servers that have never had this amount of people on at once. Just like every other game server it takes a little time to break em in so they run smooth. Also no idea if any of yall played WAR or AoC at release but so far this beta tops both of em by a lot



     

    Simply because people do not realize because beta (test) does not mean free trial...

     

    The funny part is when the game does go live, and the lag they most assured of getting even then, they go even more insane. Its pretty comical really.

  • sceeZsceeZ Member Posts: 17

    ok i dont get this. are people bitching about lag? it's a freakin beta... beta is set up to figure out issues like this. you are playing beta to find faults in the game....  oh noes. beta isnt perfect!!!!

    when i last logged into WoW a week ago or so i couldnt run a single heroic because of issues. "cannot launch additional instances" and apparently it's been like that for months now. and WoW has been out for over 4 years?

  • buegurbuegur Member UncommonPosts: 457

    I have seen this reaction to nearly every new release out there, abit server problems, doesn't have functions/gameplay they demand or whatever.  It seems they can never understand that no MMorpg releases without plenty of problems and if thats going to bother them just don't buy it at release, give it six months to see if they can fix/tame the major problems.  I having a laugh though at someone complaining about open Beta problems right at the open date, what did you expect to happen lol?  You that new to online games that you don't know this is the norm? 

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly

    Originally posted by Morgaren

    Originally posted by Jimmydean
     
    People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At walls.



     

    Yeah I know,  me too.

    The thing that gets me is everyone thinks because they are having lag problems that the ENTIRE world is having the exact same problems. Talked to one guy in game who said he didn't understand cause his "cpu ran other games well enough, like command and conquer and Black and white, Intergrated graphics should be good enough right?"

    Sometimes its YOUR connection not theirs, Sometimes its YOUR ISP, or YOUR computer can't handle a game, (I'm not hating on people who don't have an awesome machine, I was there once too, just work hard, it'll happen for you one day)

    Just case and point, I live on the TX coast (yes people your physical location can have something to do with your ping) and have a 3 Mb/s connection we had a Open Beta party, four people connecting to Aion, on the same connection, NO LAG we played for about 12 hours total yesterday, (It's kinda sad, I admit that, but when you work 60hrs a week and you got a three day weekend you gorge on doing what you love)

    I take that back one of the players on a laptop was connecting to the network wirelessly and they had some lag spikes, probably wasn't NCSofts fault though, probably something more along the lines of being on a laptop with a wireless connection.

    But yes I expierenced no lag, very few bugs, which I reported cause its a BETA and the reason they let you play is so you can report bugs so they can fix them.

    People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At skulls



     

    It was happening in regions.  So while some might lag out or rubberband to hell you could be playing fine and not have any issues.  Probably one of the most amusing things I saw in chat yesterday was some lambasting those saying they had lag because it was their pc or internet connection only to see them crying about it themselves later in the evening.

    The lag problems are a known issue and are being worked on by NCSoft.  Of course, this isn't saying I agree in the least with the op but there is currently an issue right now.  Why it's affecting different regions at different times and not accross the board is beyond me but i suppose that's why NCSoft is trying to gather information to try and pinpoint the problem.

    The game isn't live though so far as people getting this worked up over it...just seems silly to me.  It's frustating to be sure but it is ob after all.

    nha its probably like this

    im a customer of att (exemple)i get priority i play  aion i dont lag

    you connect trou same att as me but your not a customer of att (att is close to max capacity

    your booted because you not a customer and i am 

    or get very bad connection from att 

    thats something along those line and if like other posted boston and atlanta connect is down it added additional pressure to few specific point

    what i dont get is that all other game i tried works greats its only aion

    isa this an online service privder conspiracy against aion? it looks like it!

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

     yep in 6 month cataclysm will be close enough to literally kill aion in the egg

  • WolfenprideWolfenpride Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,988

    ah this thread again..

    I guess people seem to forget that this is a beta, the whole point of a beta is to test out this sort of shit (stress test) so they can start improving/fixing it.

    This is not your free trial/early entry into the finished game, so stop acting like your 10 and whining about the most mundane things.

  • Busby05Busby05 Member Posts: 9

    As many in this thread has already said.  It is open beta, its for Ncsoft to stress test the servers, get out the bugs and test to see how much a server can handle.  Its also very handy to test the login server, account management etc...

    However, many idiots can't seem the grasp this general conception.  You don't like beta stop playing until live.  Its not their as a free freaking trial.  Deal with it.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


     yep in 6 month cataclysm will be close enough to literally kill aion in the egg

    Ok we got it you don't like aion could you please stop posting in this section since you don't have anything to say on the topic/game?


  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    isa this an online service privder conspiracy against aion? it looks like it!



     

    Lol...maybe the techs responsible for monitoring this got pissed because they found out you had to have a key to get into the ob after they already downloaded the game and decided to exact some sweet revenge.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • Marcus-Marcus- Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


     yep in 6 month cataclysm will be close enough to literally kill aion in the egg



     

    Whats cataclysm?

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171

    Someone's angry!    

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  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    ahh nothing more amusing than watching idiots freak out because they dont understand the meaning of a stress test.

    See sparky, when you have a ton of people probably over 100,000 trying to play on 10 servers...well things go boom, which is of course THE WHOLE FRACKING POINT!

    It lets them see exactly how far they can push their login and game servers, which will then let them know how many game servers they need at launch. etc etc.

    Its beta relax.

    Now, if its like this at launch then you have every reason to bitch. However, this is a stress test, and anyone who didnt expect some form of server apocalypse isnt too bright.

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