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Wrender
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Hi Just wondered if the game is still randomly crashing on people like it was before i cancelled the damn thing?
It really ticked me off that Blizzard would never admit that the crash problem was possibly there fault and not with the thousands of people that had the same problem with game constantly crashing for no reason. it was driving me insane. I am playing eq2 now and i am simply amazed at how good it is. Remind me to not ever listen to 13 year old's opinions on games ever again. EQ2 puts WOW to shame. Who would have thought?
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yup, just crashed again today.
Have fun in EQ2.... i wish i was back there
It's crashed on one solitary occasion since I started playing.
Glad you're enjoying EQ2. Good luck in your bland, empty, unnecessarily slow race to get to a higher level so that you can do nothing more than fight bigger retarded AI monsters while immersion-breakingly locked in combat with buffs that last a carebearish 12 hours.
Wrender, feel lucky you dont play the same game as firemagic.
I cry myself to sleep at night when I think of it.
Dont tell me that wow is crashing to
Just left Neocron casue off all the crashing and was
going to start playing wow when the European Release is comming, are there gonna be any Open Beta or something so i can be able to try it out before the eruropean release?
Like I said, I've crashed once since release. Once.
For the first month of an MMO release, that's pretty exceptional by my reckoning.
Both games have had their ups and downs since launch, so that's really a matter of opinion.
It's hardly a matter of opinion.
The first week of EQ2 was as smooth as can be... I saw many posts saying "Best launch ever".
The first week of WoW was horrible. I saw many people saying "worst launch ever".
Thanks for posting your opinion, thereby proving what I just said: It's a matter of opinion.
Considering the fact that WoW has had the single most successful launch of an MMORPG in the history of the planet, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.
Considering the fact that WoW has had the single most successful launch of an MMORPG in the history of the planet, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.
WTF are you talking about?
Considering the fact that WoW has had the single most successful launch of an MMORPG in the history of the planet, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.
WTF are you talking about?
I'm sorry. I assumed you could understand plain English.
everyone knows that comparing EQ2 to WoW is like comparing a skoda(EQ2) and a jaguar(WoW).
Firstly EQ2 is instanced and thus doesnt have as much 'lag' issures as WoW because of this but in doing so it becomes little more than a single player game with a virtual chat room.
Secondly EQ2 didnt have as many people during the first launch.
Thirdly The only real problems where hardware problems such as Large demand for people. The client as it is is remarkably bug free and very polished... something i cant say for EQ2.
And Finally EQ2 just sux balls... its unoriginal, its a sequel... everyone knows sequels are never as good as the original.
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Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
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Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
[quote]Originally posted by firemagic
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Thanks for posting your opinion, thereby proving what I just said: It's a matter of opinion.
Considering the fact that WoW has had the single most successful launch of an MMORPG in the history of the planet, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.[quote]
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Whether you're talking about subscribers(which doesn't concern this thread at all) or server stability, WoW did not have the best MMORPG launch ever.
And, again, it's not a matter of opinion. The WoW servers were down for longer than the EQ2 servers. That alone says that EQ2 had more server stability at launch.. and that's not an "opinion". EQ2 servers had very little lag, WoW servers had alot of lag.
I'm saying that since WoW had a truly massive influx of players (it was the most successful launch of an MMORPG ever) they did fantastically well to deal with it as well as they did.
Considering that EQ2's launch was comparatively modest, Sony had a lot less of a challenge to keep their servers stable.
So, on balance, I believe WoW's launch was cleaner than EQ2's.
And just saying that WoW has had more downtime than EQ2 doesn't actually make it true. Where are your sources?
I'm sure RO and Lineage had a higher influx of players on release.
You're right, SOE did have alot less people to deal with. That doesn't change the fact that Blizzard's servers were craptastic on release, and EQ2's were all but perfect.
Ok, I don't have any sources, I'm just going off personally experience and others' experiences. Why do you need proof for everything? This is the second time today someone "bashed" WoW and you cried that you wanted to see proof. It's obvious that EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW, most WoW fanbois will even admit that.
If you can prove to me there is no God, I'll prove to you EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW.
I'm sure RO and Lineage had a higher influx of players on release.
You're right, SOE did have alot less people to deal with. That doesn't change the fact that Blizzard's servers were craptastic on release, and EQ2's were all but perfect. IF EQ2 was perfect, how can WoW be better?
Ok, I don't have any sources, I'm just going off personally experience and others' experiences. Why do you need proof for everything? This is the second time today someone "bashed" WoW and you cried that you wanted to see proof. It's obvious that EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW, most WoW fanbois will even admit that.
If you can prove to me there is no God, I'll prove to you EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW.
You seem to think that just saying things makes them into facts. It doesn't work like that, I'm afraid.
All you're doing is admitting you don't have any evidence to back up your assertions, and that's fine. You have your opinion and I have mine, but that's all they are: opinions.
No-one can prove that there's no "god", but when someone makes an outrageous claim like the existence of a supernatural being, the burden of proof lies with that person, and that person only. It's not up to rational people to disprove insane, illogical statements; it's up to the people who are making them to prove them.
I'm sure RO and Lineage had a higher influx of players on release.
You're right, SOE did have alot less people to deal with. That doesn't change the fact that Blizzard's servers were craptastic on release, and EQ2's were all but perfect. IF EQ2 was perfect, how can WoW be better?
Ok, I don't have any sources, I'm just going off personally experience and others' experiences. Why do you need proof for everything? This is the second time today someone "bashed" WoW and you cried that you wanted to see proof. It's obvious that EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW, most WoW fanbois will even admit that.
If you can prove to me there is no God, I'll prove to you EQ2 had a smoother launch than WoW.
You seem to think that just saying things makes them into facts. It doesn't work like that, I'm afraid.
All you're doing is admitting you don't have any evidence to back up your assertions, and that's fine. You have your opinion and I have mine, but that's all they are: opinions.
No-one can prove that there's no "god", but when someone makes an outrageous claim like the existence of a supernatural being, the burden of proof lies with that person, and that person only. It's not up to rational people to disprove insane, illogical statements; it's up to the people who are making them to prove them.
This is quote from you just earlier today when you were, once again, defending you're precious game(not an exact quote, I don't feel like finding the post):
"SOE has the worst customer server - that's a fact".
So at least server downtime is something that can be proved.
Hmm.. if it's "not up to rational people to disprove insane, illogical statements; it's up to the people who are making them to prove them", then what was the point of the Warren Commision(one example of many)? If more than 50% of the world believes in God(which again, isn't a fact, just a widely-regarded opinion), then I would think it would be up to the minority to prove the majority wrong.
Do you even play WoW? Or do you just spend all of your waking hours defending it? Maybe that's why you think the servers are down...
I think you meant to type "SOE has the worst customer service ever", but I guess you had some kind of a brainfart.
But anyway, yes, I accept that I stated opinion as fact and I was mistaken in doing so. Thanks for picking me up on it.
I never said it couldn't be proved. All I said was that you haven't given any evidence.
The Warren Commission was pertaining to the assassination of JFK, so you've kind of lost me there, and since religion has nothing to do with the topic I'll spare you an education. Suffice to say that when someone postulates a hypothesis with nil evidence, then it's up to them to prove it. There is nil evidence for the existence of a god (or whichever one of the hundreds of "gods" currently being worshipped worldwide you might blindly believe in) and thus the burden of proof lies with anyone who would claim there is.
Of course I play WoW. What a ridiculous question. Luckily, though, WoW isn't a game that requires you to spend most of your free time playing it to get anywhere.
I referenced that because the reason why that even existed was because a small minority thought there was a conspiracy invloved. The Warren commission was made because of the minority wanting answers.
And I think that's all I'll say here.. this isn't even about WoW anymore..
Firemagic you seem like an intelligent person, who just makes some dumb statements because he refuses to believe ANYTHING could possibly be better in some other game than the game he is playing in. Just for the record: WoW has LESS people per server than EQ2. LESS people per server. Want proof of that one? Find the number of subscriptions and divide by the number of servers.
Second, you want proof WoW has more problems than EQ2? get ready:
Edit: Mu cut and paste didn't work so well, so I'll just post the link:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-realm-status
I'm a neutral party here so i'll state my arguement.
WoW has had the most stable launch of any MMO i have played. (i've played quite a few) The launch itself was hindered by the fact that the servers, which as a whole could run roughly 100k people over the 40-ought servers (2.5k per server before it starts lagging some, 3.2 - 3.5k is hard cap)
The problem? The FIRST day over 250 THOUSAND copies of the game were sold and almost everywhere it was SOLD OUT. Over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND accounts were created ON THE FIRST DAY alone, its well over 200 thousand by now.
Now, 100k+ people over 40 servers which collectively could only run arround 100k people without flaw, YOU do the math. The server lag and stability issues were purely a traffic issue due to server overload.
The servers themselves were flawless, and to those who got into them before there were high-traffic issues (myself included) had a nigh-flawless experience as far as the servers themselves and the lag they might produce is concerned. Hell, the worst problems came from 30-50 people being in the same area and fighting over who gets to kill what mob. AND, WoW did something unexpectedly after the servers WERE under a high load. They put ques (sp) in to help prevent overloading the current servers, and added 40 more servers in less than 4 days to counter the extremely high traffic the game was (and by many rights still is) experiencing, and on top of that gave everyone an extra 1-4 days depending on when their account was created, just as a "sorry we didn't have enough servers to counter the massive influx of people which decimates every MMORPG's record to date for first day launch"
The game ITSELF is even more flawless, there are few bugs (mages seem to have the most and longest lasting ones [arcane missiles and blink are the most prominent]) and the game runs like a dream. The game was released early IMO by about a month (they could have used the time to iron out even more bugs instead of getting ready for launch) but on the whole its probably the only MMO to be launched almost completely finished and without any bugs.
EQ2 on the other hand needed a whole 6 months more before launch. The servers still lag over 2 months into release, most of the classes suffer from MULTIPLE bugs and imbalances (the wizards later-level DPS drops massively) and on the whole the game suffers from the same problems every SoE game suffers from, a shoddy release with a half-finished game.
Now i'll be the last to say that EQ2 isn't fun (hey, i got a free copy and it is pretty ok...) but comparing EQ2 (gremlin) to WoW (beemer) is just futile at best, its like comparing cedar to mahogany (sp) in terms of which one looks best when stained etc. (not comparing graphics)
Completely different point. WoW's servers at launch were pristine and utterly perfect and capable, EQ2's barely are capable now 2 months after release. WoW's servers suffered from OVERCROWDING, which caused server downtime due to them being over-stressed and too many people being in the same area at the same time, hardly anything you could call "worst launch ever" which is caused by shoddy, bug ridden servers that can't even support the half finished game they were designed to.
Now, on the point of server crashes. I don't see them anymore, i've only experience one or two and that was during the first four days of launch DURING the overcrowding. Now its not a problem and crashes are caused more by bad computers than the game itself.
LOL Right that was completely netural. Why would anyone think you were biased one way or the other. I mean you called WoW flawless and EQ2 unbalanced.
Please people don't take anyone's word on this go look at the offical forums, They speak volumnes about which game had the better launch. WOW's servers has less people per server and were brought to thier knees. Accept that this is the fact, it's okay to like a game that has flaws. It's okay to like WoW better even if another game has less server problems. What is so hard for you people to accept about that? That just because you like one game doesn't mean another game can't do something better than the game you like. This whole flame war between EQ2 and WoW could be ended if both sides just said: Yep my game has flaws and I still like it better than the other. I accept the fact that I like EQ2 even though fish chase me miles onto land, I accept that WoW is better in the fact that the world is larger and doesn't have all the annoying zones that are in EQ2. I like EQ2 beter even though the crafting system is better in SWG. I know other games do somethings better than EQ2 does them, but as a whole, EQ2 is the game for me.