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Is Aion worth buying?

MisterSrMisterSr Member UncommonPosts: 928

I post this in the pub not because I am an abnoxious noob to the forums, but because I am looking for an opinion from the general community. I know there are die hard fans out there that will say, "yes." with no doubt in their mind. I am looking for advice from people who weigh both the pros and the cons, and are able to tell me in honest what they think of the game. Since I can't play in open beta I do need to know whether it is worth my time or not. ;)

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504

    Not much useful feedback yet, as I'm only level 4.

    But I will say that it's far and away the most beautiful MMORPG I've played so far.

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  • MisterSrMisterSr Member UncommonPosts: 928

    Yah I understand it is a great looking game, how is the combat so far?

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    yes imo, i am loving the game.

    id read this beta review by a mmorpg.com member

    8 pages :p

    www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/250698

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Originally posted by MisterSr


    Yah I understand it is a great looking game, how is the combat so far?

    Combat is about what you'd expect at level 4 in an MMORPG.  You spam a single ability and stuff dies.  At least I have a frostbolt equivalent and a single target root on a long cooldown.  That's more than my level 19 Champions character has, sadly.  (Champion's freeform character creation seems to lack tactically interesting abilities.)

    Unlike a lot of recent MMORPGs you don't simply recover mana by staying out of combat.  You have to sit for a bit (20 sec is probably the max you'd need to recover fully).  Similar to retail WOW's mage class, really.  But without the time spent summoning water :P

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    I played WoW for years, and I haven't touched an MMO in about 2 years.  I've been totally burned out, and nothing I've tried has been able to hold my interest.  Until Aion.

    The graphics are smooth.  Not the most important thing, in my opinion, but still worth noting.  The world is fresh and new.  The quests at least attempt to draw you in to the lore, involve you with the people of the world, but it's up to you to read them and get into the role.  The combat is fast, the combos, and ability to dodge, make it more active. 

    Bottom line?  I'm having a blast.   Will you?  No one can say.  But I definitely think it's worth trying.

  • HunterAPHunterAP Member Posts: 76

    I think that Aion will attract a ton of folks from WoW and perhaps Warhammer.  However, I think that those folks will realize that they left a better game in order to play Aion.  Some folks will stick around, perhaps for a long time.

    Aion, to me, is PvP Server WoW + Wings.  The game is VERY polished, but WoW is MORE polished.  The game has an "easy mode," crafting system.  The game has little/no social features.  The game has zerg PvP.

    These two things, for me, that make this game totally unpurchasable. 

    1.  Game Guard.  Game Guard is a horrible piece of bloatware, if not a Trojan.  On my system, it disables my keyboard's LCD and disconnects my USB connection to my UPS.  It's also known to conflict with firewalls and anti-virus software.

    2.  Lag.  This game has had lag issues for at least a month without being addressed.  The "fix" on Monday allowed some of the folks to play again, but many folks still can not.

    That said, my personal experience has been considerably different from a lot of other people's.  Perhaps Game Guard won't affect you at all.  Perhaps the lag won't either.  That leaves the question...  WoW?  Or WoW + wings?

    Personally, I believe that Warhammer, even with it's faults, is a better game than Aion.

  • MisterSrMisterSr Member UncommonPosts: 928

    Haha, thanks for those Opinions. Wow may be a good game, and it may have been for me for a while, but I still think this game is worth trying before I completely shun it off. Warhammer was a good game, but not for me due to complete lack of PvE content, I am looking for a balanced game with decent PvP and PvE, and no WoWs PvP was not sufficient for me, and Arenas were completely awful in prospect. Does this game have a balanced amount of both?

  • LtJohnnyRicoLtJohnnyRico Member Posts: 214
    Originally posted by MisterSr


    Warhammer was a good game, but not for me due to complete lack of PvE content

     

    ....What? Like, did you ever play the game or did you just read some troll's review? The game area is 70% PvE (with Public Quests) with 30% being devoted to RVR area. If anything, I think the game has a little too many MOBs in some areas.

  • MisterSrMisterSr Member UncommonPosts: 928


    Originally posted by LtJohnnyRico
    Originally posted by MisterSr Warhammer was a good game, but not for me due to complete lack of PvE content
     
    ....What? Like, did you ever play the game or did you just read some troll's review? The game area is 70% PvE (with Public Quests) with 30% being devoted to RVR area. If anything, I think the game has a little too many MOBs in some areas.

    I played the game, all the way to 40, the game was definitely more PvP based, not because of the size of PvE content areas, but just the amount of effort they placed on PvE it self. Leveling and doing PvE at higher levels just seemed like a grind, with lack of interesting quests.

  • MorgarenMorgaren Member UncommonPosts: 397

    Aion is a good game, its got a solid PvE content, the character progression is a little slow, by that I mean you don't get a whole lot of moves until level 13 ish, but the combat is fun none the less.

    Think what you want about this game is just wow, ect. ect. ect. Its not Wow, its something different, and different is good.

    Game mechanics are all familiar, cause what works...works. It is a new world, fun to explore, and the classes seem very balanced.  Mages are glass cannons, and they do shatter, tanks are tanks, and they absorb damage. If your looking to buy a game i would recommend it, I doubt that you would be dissapointed. You'll at least get a couple months entertainment out of it.

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    Not shure if Aion is worth buying, that depends on too many different things for everyone.

    But it's shurely worth trying  -and you couldn't say that about alot of games in 2008/2009.

     

    What a sorry state this genre is in...

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  • Killerclan11Killerclan11 Member Posts: 16

    The only way I believe you can like or hate a game is if you play it. I know that you can't buy every game but for games like Avon its just one you have too see. You might hate it you might love it. You just got too see it for yourself.

  • ninja33284ninja33284 Member Posts: 82

    i would recommend trying this game , im lvl 17 almost 18 Spirit master, and i have yet to get bored of anything, Evening dieing is kind of fun lol,  but not when u die like 16 bagillion times.. (dumb party cant hold aggro off the healer) that was just one experience though, ive been in many parties where every one worked perfectly together and managed to get me like 3 quests done.

    from me i love this game and will most likly play it for many years.. (depending on how all the other patches come out and change the game) but in its current game style and play.. Just PvE, since i havnt gotten to PvP yet.. i would say its quite nice. the combo skills are so nice and everything around you i feel draws u in, because when your bored of fighting PvE u can just roll on over to a flight zone fly up to a high peak chill and just watch the scenery, the only thing i hate was the fact that YOU GET YOUR WINGS... and then like 10 minutes later your fighting in a zone where u cant fly and your questing there for like 8 hours.. but i hear later in the game u get to fly more which is nice.

  • DaftDaft Member UncommonPosts: 172

    this game is a wow clone uhh

  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142

    I dunno about Aion yet. As a long time WoW player, I'm trying to look at it objectively. The game is beautifully made but definitely has a touch of eastern over-the-top anime style about it which won't appeal to everyone.

    I haven't had a chance to play it for very long; I'm told that the game changes quite a bit around level 25 when the PvPvE kicks in but the early game is typical MMO in terms of combat and questing. The game-world seems very linear; questing is of the "kill 10 sparklebugs, go talk to this guy" mold, and combat is a case of "click mob, press hotkey".

    At the risk of being flamed by the hardcore Aion crowd, it feels (so far) very similar to playing WoW. Or LoTRO. Or WAR. Or any other mainstream MMO. Obviously, getting an accurate impression of an MMO is virtually impossible after only a few hours gameplay; at this stage I can't say whether or not its content at higher levels is enough to make it stand out from the crowd.

    I've preordered it, (on the basis that I preorder pretty much everything) and will play it for a while to give it a fair chance to impress me; but at this stage I can't really see myself playing it long-term.

    And yah, GameGuard is undeniably a horrible piece of crap.

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  • beeker255beeker255 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


    The answer is simple.
    Apart from the fact is has "autofollow" in PvP which makes it a joke as a valid PvP game.
    Here is an example of a typical Aion Boss in a PVE Dungeon:
    NO responsive reaction of any boss in Aion/
    The video lasts ... 1.5 minutes with the boss at LESS than 5% btw.
    Healer, tank, dps don't move an inch, while the boss doesn't move an inch either, nor does he do any reactive things.
    http://www.xfire.com/video/1038cd/ and this goes on for 20 minutes (at least).
    YAwn indeed. even COMPARING these fights to Raids in WOW is ... well you choose.
    Typical Korean style PVE. "Watch out for the moving fire and holes" won't be heard in YAwn I guess.

    I cannot agree with you on the autofollow makes it a joke game some of the best PVP games I have played had auto follow. 

    Daoc had it with stick and Autoface and it worked great kept the bunny hopping latency exploits down and EVE same way.

    Look Zorn I know you are down with WOW and thats cool. But don't call something a joke just because its not WOW.

  • KordeshKordesh Member Posts: 1,715

     Play the beta and decide for yourself, otherwise you're just going to get masses of fanboy and troll input, neither of which will be accurate. The game changes drastically from a guided to more open experience once you hit about 25 though so I would reserve full judgement until then, but you will get the basic idea of the mechanics regardless of how long you play. 

    Don't even need to pre-order to try it anymore, fileplanet opened up keys to everyone. 

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I voted the "For certain crowds" option. Certain aspects of the game work on its favour, while others can become a prohibitive factor. Lets start with the negatives first. By the way, some of those negatives are subjective, yet an issue for certain people.

    1. The use of its anti-hack program is controversial. Generally speaking all MMOs use such kind of programs, yet for some people this come as a surprise. The same kind of uproar that we see today with Gameguard was present when Blizzard revealed the use of its own system called Warden.
    2. The art direction is more eastern oriented (and more sensual). Some people dislike it and either prefer the more cartooney style or the more reality looking one.
    3. There are limits to the time and place where you can fly. Some people dislike this.
    4. The avatars can't swim (no animation). There isn't anywhere to swim to, so for now the deep water bodies serve as artificial barriers.
    5. There are instances of the 1-20 zones. Personally I find it an improvement over Lineage 2, where the players at launch were more than the alive foxes in the newbie area.
    6. While the general world look is very nice, lot of textures are low quality stretched. Compared to how sharp the avatars look, the difference is prominent. This has a very positive effect on the frame rate, no matter how many people are visible.
    7. It seems that it will be hard to completely isolate PvE from PvP, especially in the zones that feature the rift system. Some people asked for rift-less servers.
    8. Quite a few raid bosses seem to be tank an spank. This seem intentional, since quite a few of those bosses are in contested areas, where people both need to defeat the boss and defend themselves from the opposite faction attacking.
    9. There is nothing spectacularly different in the way the quests are delivered, besides small cutscenes for some of them. As usual, the quest story is interesting, as long as people bother to read it.
    10. ....

    On the positive front

    1. The game is polished and runs smoothly on average/sub-average rigs.
    2. The animations are very well made, also some of the emotes are quite hilarious
    3. The combat is responsive
    4. The game engine can handle a very big amount of people on screen without severe drop of frame rate, making big battles possible again.
    5. ...

    Some of the negatives can also be seen as positives, depending on how people perceive them, like for example the art style.

    Bottom line, OP I don't know if it's worth buying, but in my opinion it's definitely worth trying.

  • beeker255beeker255 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by beeker255

    Originally posted by Zorndorf


    The answer is simple.
    Apart from the fact is has "autofollow" in PvP which makes it a joke as a valid PvP game.
    Here is an example of a typical Aion Boss in a PVE Dungeon:
    NO responsive reaction of any boss in Aion/
    The video lasts ... 1.5 minutes with the boss at LESS than 5% btw.
    Healer, tank, dps don't move an inch, while the boss doesn't move an inch either, nor does he do any reactive things.
    http://www.xfire.com/video/1038cd/ and this goes on for 20 minutes (at least).
    YAwn indeed. even COMPARING these fights to Raids in WOW is ... well you choose.
    Typical Korean style PVE. "Watch out for the moving fire and holes" won't be heard in YAwn I guess.

    I cannot agree with you on the autofollow makes it a joke game some of the best PVP games I have played had auto follow. 

    Daoc had it with stick and Autoface and it worked great kept the bunny hopping latency exploits down and EVE same way.

    Look Zorn I know you are down with WOW and thats cool. But don't call something a joke just because its not WOW.



     

    Look the game is making a fool out of itself: Just see the video above and tell me if that challenges the current state of the PVE raids ? And it is the SAME thing of ALL those Korean games. Dull, VERY dull PVE bosses.

    NO reactive responses whatsoever. A raid/dungeon boss and nobody moves an inch.

    The same applies for PvP: Positioning is one of the KEY features of present day PvP games. If you can't position yourself against the enemy,  you are not talking state of the art PvP mechanics.

    Jumping over and behind a target negates dodge and parry advantages in that other game, distancing you from the others is one of the KEY features in PvP.

    Auto-following is in Aion and it simply is a gamebreaker for serious PvP players.

    Period.

    I don't care about PVE. I am a serious PVP player not saying im leet and an ownzer but I play MMO's to PVP and am telling you what are considered some of the best PVP mmorpgs have Auto Follow. DAOC(you say WOW is a better PVP game?) and EVE have it( not saying its effective in EVE but its there). People considered Shadowbane a serious PVP mmo....that you could autofollow in.

    Now for years people laugh at anyone calling WOW PVP serious........but I won't go there....you know why? I actually enjoyed the PVP combat of WOW. But to say Auto follow is a game breaker for SERIOUS PVP players is a joke.

     

    Period.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I'll let you know what I feel about the raids when I experience them ;)

  • biplexbiplex Member Posts: 268

    Aion is not worth buying, not until they remove Game Guard.

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  • beeker255beeker255 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Originally posted by biplex


    Aion is not worth buying, not until they remove Game Guard.

    GG sucks but I wouldn't let it stop you hehe

  • HunterAPHunterAP Member Posts: 76
    Originally posted by beeker255

    Originally posted by biplex


    Aion is not worth buying, not until they remove Game Guard.

    GG sucks but I wouldn't let it stop you hehe

     

    Why not?  It disables my computer's access to my UPS and it disables my keyboard's LCD.  For other folks, it disables their firewall and anti-virus.  To me, it's a MEGA security risk.

    I have an idea for NC Soft.  If they're worried about hack prevention, do some logic checks on the server side.  Sure it will eat some CPU, but to me, that's better than installing a Trojan on people's PC's.  Also, GameGuard has proven to NOT WORK.  The types of folks who hack/cheat can find ways around GameGuard's protection.

  • dark1stdark1st Member Posts: 4

    DUDE DONT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE!!!

     

    Okay first of all let me start off by saying 90% of these posts are from people who have played the beta some played the asian version but that was before 1.5. Anyways the game still has minor flaws that is being touched up by NcSoft and it will most likely be gone by launch. I have had no issues with gameguard and no lag problems. The game has a beautiful enviroment, character customization is amazing. I must say the enviroment detail is YES a little stretched depending on ur system but overall it beats most games enviroment. This is like a mix of all the great MMO's. Very well polished. Now this game is also different so dont let people tell you its the same thing. So many features involved, you can dye your gear or even change your current gear to look like other gear that you like the look of. You can get plastic surgery and redo your character if you aren't satisfied, as well as you can dye your own hair! You can buy clothes just for the town. You can open your own private shop and the AH is pretty sick. You can fly for a limited amount of time but as levels go higher the time goes higher and that can also be worked on through out time and patches. The machanics are amazing. The combat system is VERY smooth. Great enviroment and social aspect. I really like this game and would say it is surely worth buying. The only negative is that the mouse turn is weird but I think they'll fix that by launch.

  • beeker255beeker255 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Originally posted by HunterAP

    Originally posted by beeker255

    Originally posted by biplex


    Aion is not worth buying, not until they remove Game Guard.

    GG sucks but I wouldn't let it stop you hehe

     

    Why not?  It disables my computer's access to my UPS and it disables my keyboard's LCD.  For other folks, it disables their firewall and anti-virus.  To me, it's a MEGA security risk.

    I have an idea for NC Soft.  If they're worried about hack prevention, do some logic checks on the server side.  Sure it will eat some CPU, but to me, that's better than installing a Trojan on people's PC's.  Also, GameGuard has proven to NOT WORK.  The types of folks who hack/cheat can find ways around GameGuard's protection.

    "Also, GameGuard has proven to NOT WORK." this is why I say GG sucks. The other problems I haven't ran into but there are tons of threads debating this so I don't doubt it. Just saying only Issues I have with GG is that it doesn't seem to be good at what its designed to do. I would tell people to read these threads and decide and not to listen to me or biplex hehe :)

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