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rocky start Already
naktos
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in Fallen Earth
The blank Char . screen!
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ditto for me
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I have manage to create a char! But now it says "name in use" when i try to log in >.>
That's because I stole your name! Mwa!
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MMO hopefuls: Age of Conan.
Same, seems I'm not the only one seeing it.
Grrr.. spent 10 mins creating a character. Then it wouldn't save - so I hit cancel to try again and it loads up and tell sme character name already exists and it's with the default character options, not the ones I created!
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just because no one can create a character at the moment does not give FE a Rocky Start i mean geeze the servers just turned on, they probably have it locked down for a reason.
Char show up trying to log in ...I am in game
Is there only one server? I should have looked into this earlier, but I didn't - blah - I just hope I can create my character and get in the game.
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Not the end of the world...
If people weren't expecting this, or at least prepared for the fact it could happen.. well I don't know what to say.
Rest assured, they're working at it. We may have early access, but keep in mind the Early Access is not the "Official Release", so they are probably taking all the server load problems as opportunities to test various solutions for various problems.
One server,
However, that could certainly change, depending on just how many people flood the gates. Though I think they won't freak out and add servers, they'll just work with it. We all know what it's like to join a launch and have 20 servers and then 3 months later 80% are dead as shit.
They will hold out and be smart about it.
That's because I stole your name! Mwa!
So, is it Legolas or Sephiroth?
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
As far as starts go, it seems to be one of the smoothest so far. The only problem Ive seen is that there are too many people camping the same spawns to complete missions. If I were them, I would at least up the timer or create more spawns to solve the problem. Besides that everything seems to be working great.
And yet you don't look further down the road when there aren't so many people camping the spawns and now they're being overwhelmed by the increased spawns/timers. Just be patient and let it go.
It's the same complaint of people rushing to get I-pods from the store. 'Why didn't they open up another store or have more I-pods available?' Waaaah. Same difference. Why spend the money or the effort when in a couple of days it'll settle down and availability will resolve on its own.
mission "kill 10 coyotes" with time limit + flood of other players on it = am cry
This made me lol.
How else WOULD you define a rocky start? Can't even create a character is about as rocky as it gets, even if they did recently open up the servers.
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No, it's not. Europe's largest PC gaming market is currently pretty much completely shut out of the game and Icarus hasn't handled the situation well so far. Only a very small percentage of Germans use credit cards and the German branch of Paypal is, sorry, a hilarious bunch of retards.
Icarus failed on several fronts here. A customer friendly payment method should have been included from the start and in Germany that pretty much comes down to direct debit via global collect or some similar service. Fallen Earth isn't exactly the first internet based product with international customers and these issues are known and should have been taken care of in advance.
Requiring an active subsciption to even start your 30 days included with the purchase of the game may be totally awesome for Icarus' accounting department, it's very annoying for the customers though, especially if there are any issues.
And while Icarus claims they are working on the issue nothing has happened yet.
No, it's not. Europe's largest PC gaming market is currently pretty much completely shut out of the game and Icarus hasn't handled the situation well so far. Only a very small percentage of Germans use credit cards and the German branch of Paypal is, sorry, a hilarious bunch of retards.
Icarus failed on several fronts here. A customer friendly payment method should have been included from the start and in Germany that pretty much comes down to direct debit via global collect or some similar service. Fallen Earth isn't exactly the first internet based product with international customers and these issues are known and should have been taken care of in advance.
Requiring an active subsciption to even start your 30 days included with the purchase of the game may be totally awesome for Icarus' accounting department, it's very annoying for the customers though, especially if there are any issues.
And while Icarus claims they are working on the issue nothing has happened yet.
Are you telling me that Germany still only uses hard cash when shopping? Talk about stoneage.
Banks don't issue debit cards? So that you can withdraw from a minibank or pay at the store terminal?
Whoa, better scratch Germany from my vacation list... I havent carried cash on me since 1995, since I got my first paycheck and I got my card from the bank. It'd not a credit card, since it's only limited to whats on my account, but I can use it worldwide, even in Somalia...
Oh and for the record, I'm european.
Most times, yes.
It's not that banks don't offer credit cards and it's neither that shops do not accept them (although not all of them do - why should they get the necessary hardware if noone ever goes shopping with a credit card?). We just do not see a need for those little plastic cards over here.
From all my friends and close family members I do only know one guy who actually has a credit card - and that's mainly because he has to travel to UK, USA or other countries from time to time.
There are of course prepaid-credit cards available, but they do have a fixed amount of money on them.
Thinking of both the amount of people living in Germany and the size of the german market it would be pretty stupid to not include local business habbits (same for uk or usa).
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No. There's just a different system for cashless payment in place, the so called EC-Cards. When buying stuff offline they're not that much different than credit cards on the user end, but if you pay with them the money is directly detracted from your bank account.
Don't wanna go into detail here, but legally they're treated differently than credit cards and there is also no CC number.
Online shopping works fine with these cards too, but the product needs to offer a specific payment method. If you want to run a successful internet business with German customers, you need to use ELV ( direct debit ). Most MMOs do and if Icarus don't wanna bother themselves there are services like Global Collect to handle the process.
Of course there are workarounds, some players have a credit card simply because of previous niche MMOs not offering ELV or because of travels to the UK/US. There are also some web services offering virtual credit cards, etc. All this requires some effort on the user end though and will dramatically cut down the German playerbase.
Given the impact that would have on the overall population of the game and the relative ease of outsourcing the Germans' payment to Global Collect I'm at a loss why Icarus didn't think of it before launch. These issues have been known for many years now and all MMOs not offering ELV have failed pretty miserably in Germany.
I like the game and it has tons of potential (in a sandbox game this actually means something).
Ill be back in 6+ months to give it a real shot.
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This made me lol.
How else WOULD you define a rocky start? Can't even create a character is about as rocky as it gets, even if they did recently open up the servers.
point is it is not a rocky start until it is started, the servers had just been turned on and still in the process of loading up while people trying to login every few seconds. Officially the game goes live on the 22nd so on that day if you can't create a character then call it a rocky start. This is just early access.
No. There's just a different system for cashless payment in place, the so called EC-Cards. When buying stuff offline they're not that much different than credit cards on the user end, but if you pay with them the money is directly detracted from your bank account.
Don't wanna go into detail here, but legally they're treated differently than credit cards and there is also no CC number.
Online shopping works fine with these cards too, but the product needs to offer a specific payment method. If you want to run a successful internet business with German customers, you need to use ELV ( direct debit ). Most MMOs do and if Icarus don't wanna bother themselves there are services like Global Collect to handle the process.
Of course there are workarounds, some players have a credit card simply because of previous niche MMOs not offering ELV or because of travels to the UK/US. There are also some web services offering virtual credit cards, etc. All this requires some effort on the user end though and will dramatically cut down the German playerbase.
Given the impact that would have on the overall population of the game and the relative ease of outsourcing the Germans' payment to Global Collect I'm at a loss why Icarus didn't think of it before launch. These issues have been known for many years now and all MMOs not offering ELV have failed pretty miserably in Germany.
What makes you think Icarus even knows this exists? I've live in the US for 9 years and the first thing I realized is that to the average America, the world is bordered my the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the Canadian and Mexican borders. Only 10% of the country has a passport and only 10% of those use it more than once.
I'm pretty sure Icarus's main concern is for the US gamer. They offer CC and PayPal, it's not Icarus's fault that the German Paypal System is crappy. Plus, most debit cards are Visa so you can use them as a Credit Card also. So that's 3 options.
No. There's just a different system for cashless payment in place, the so called EC-Cards. When buying stuff offline they're not that much different than credit cards on the user end, but if you pay with them the money is directly detracted from your bank account.
Don't wanna go into detail here, but legally they're treated differently than credit cards and there is also no CC number.
Online shopping works fine with these cards too, but the product needs to offer a specific payment method. If you want to run a successful internet business with German customers, you need to use ELV ( direct debit ). Most MMOs do and if Icarus don't wanna bother themselves there are services like Global Collect to handle the process.
Of course there are workarounds, some players have a credit card simply because of previous niche MMOs not offering ELV or because of travels to the UK/US. There are also some web services offering virtual credit cards, etc. All this requires some effort on the user end though and will dramatically cut down the German playerbase.
Given the impact that would have on the overall population of the game and the relative ease of outsourcing the Germans' payment to Global Collect I'm at a loss why Icarus didn't think of it before launch. These issues have been known for many years now and all MMOs not offering ELV have failed pretty miserably in Germany.
What makes you think Icarus even knows this exists? I've live in the US for 9 years and the first thing I realized is that to the average America, the world is bordered my the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the Canadian and Mexican borders. Only 10% of the country has a passport and only 10% of those use it more than once.
I'm pretty sure Icarus's main concern is for the US gamer. They offer CC and PayPal, it's not Icarus's fault that the German Paypal System is crappy. Plus, most debit cards are Visa so you can use them as a Credit Card also. So that's 3 options.
I was going to post a joke about why are German's always doing crazy things then I decided to save myself the report since someone would take it personally rather then a joke, and we know what happens when German's don't have a sense of humor.
I wouldn't put the blame on Icarus for this. First off what do you think the German share of the MMO market is? I'd guess it's fairly tiny comparitavely. So being that the German MMO market is probably in itself a niche market by business standards why would they go out of their way to offer a billing option a tiny amount of their playerbase would ever use. To run that payment method they'd probably have to pay another company extra money to set it up and run it resulting in them making even less from the German market.
Offering CC and PayPal is a fairly common setup now a days for all companies. You should probably send e-mails to PayPal to suggest they get that German debit card method supported, that's where I'd start.
But as someone else said most debit cards are backed by a major credit card company which is what makes them so universal, why a company would create a debit card in Germany and then not back it by a world wide supported system is beyond me.
No. There's just a different system for cashless payment in place, the so called EC-Cards. When buying stuff offline they're not that much different than credit cards on the user end, but if you pay with them the money is directly detracted from your bank account.
Don't wanna go into detail here, but legally they're treated differently than credit cards and there is also no CC number.
Online shopping works fine with these cards too, but the product needs to offer a specific payment method. If you want to run a successful internet business with German customers, you need to use ELV ( direct debit ). Most MMOs do and if Icarus don't wanna bother themselves there are services like Global Collect to handle the process.
Of course there are workarounds, some players have a credit card simply because of previous niche MMOs not offering ELV or because of travels to the UK/US. There are also some web services offering virtual credit cards, etc. All this requires some effort on the user end though and will dramatically cut down the German playerbase.
Given the impact that would have on the overall population of the game and the relative ease of outsourcing the Germans' payment to Global Collect I'm at a loss why Icarus didn't think of it before launch. These issues have been known for many years now and all MMOs not offering ELV have failed pretty miserably in Germany.
What makes you think Icarus even knows this exists? I've live in the US for 9 years and the first thing I realized is that to the average America, the world is bordered my the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the Canadian and Mexican borders. Only 10% of the country has a passport and only 10% of those use it more than once.
I'm pretty sure Icarus's main concern is for the US gamer. They offer CC and PayPal, it's not Icarus's fault that the German Paypal System is crappy. Plus, most debit cards are Visa so you can use them as a Credit Card also. So that's 3 options.
The majority of all business go under... because they didnt know all the details needed to be successful. Icarus only needs to know stuff like this if they intend to succeed. Developing a game is one job, publishing it is a totally different job, with all new rules, and most developers dont do it very well the first time around.
I was just wondering when it would ba appropriate to have a rocky start if not in the beginning.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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