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People who call Hardcore gamers losers..

To all those people who call hardcore gamers losers...

Do you even understand why hardcore gamers are hardcore gamers? Most hardcore gamers make more money playing games than you do working. If you think it feels like work and takes the fun out of the game your wrong lol. I play games all the time. I play almost 24/7. I play to have fun. I can also easily build a retirement fund off these games and i dont even try to make money. Hardcore gamers are the heart and soul of mmorpgs. These are the people that lead your raids. These are the people that find the best spots to hunt. These are the people that discover the new recipes. Without the hardcore gamers you'd find your game world much less friendly. This doesnt mean the hardcore gamer is a friendly breed but what they do for the whole community does make the game more friendly.

We can argue ethics or get off on some morals tangent about being anti social in life but why? People should do what makes them happy. If people are happy sitting at a desk playing games why should we look down on them for that choice? Why is it more acceptable to live at a bar than it is to live online? Clearly society hasn't caught on to the idea that being social online is as acceptable as being social irl. Personally i prefer my friends from australia, germany, belgium, england, japan, korea and brazil over the local bar sluts. I feel they give me a better perspective of the world than the dealer that hangs out at the club pushing x.

To sum up i think people who look down at hardcore gamers are narrow minded idiots...

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Hello, random rant!

  • TackleburyTacklebury Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Definitely not going to argue with someone with your view, but I'm a casual gamer and have had paid subscriptions for at least 5 years, and I don't run up server bandwidth as much as you do ;)  Thus I make them more money on a per hourly bandwidth basis. ;)  Anyway, I don't think it's people lashing out because you are a hardcore gamer, as you state you are, it is that a lot (NOT all) hardcore gamers act big headed, pig headed, snobby and like to rub casual gamers noses in their UBER lewtz.  Thus casual gamers get increasingly tired and despotic of hardcore gamers.  It has nothing to do with how much you play, it's a generalization which oversteps the actual range of gamers it is supposed to cover.  I know a couple of my best friends in games (note: not friends I can contact in RL) are from other countries and play like you do.  Thus it is safe to say, that just as pvp'ers like to call non-pvp'ers "carebears" etc, you are being lumped becaused of a few nasty folks out there into one big pile.  Anyway, enjoy your MMO retirement and peace. image

    Tacklebury --}>>>

    Explorer 93%
    Achiever 53%
    Socializer 33%
    Killer 20%

    Tacklebury --}>>>

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Most hardcores players dont make money from playing games.

     

    If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob!  image

    - "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • neiltaconeiltaco Member Posts: 33
    I don't think hardcore gamers are losers.  But can someone tell me how hardcore gamers get money?

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by ianubisi
    Hello, random rant!

    Nah just a response to several posts i've noticed done in one independant thread.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Anofalye
    Most hardcores players dont make money from playing games.

    If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob! image- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''


    Most of the ones i know do in fact make money.. Its really hard not to.

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  • PalancoPalanco Member Posts: 23

    Thumbs up!!!

     

    Now i got something to say back when the bug me at school! TY So much!!! :)


    And what Copeland says is true..

     

    Tell me dont CS players make money on Lans/Cups?  Some clan mates of me made like 700-800 $ selling good account on ebay (cant remember the game) So hardcore gaming can get you money.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Tacklebury
    Definitely not going to argue with someone with your view, but I'm a casual gamer and have had paid subscriptions for at least 5 years, and I don't run up server bandwidth as much as you do ;) Thus I make them more money on a per hourly bandwidth basis. ;) Anyway, I don't think it's people lashing out because you are a hardcore gamer, as you state you are, it is that a lot (NOT all) hardcore gamers act big headed, pig headed, snobby and like to rub casual gamers noses in their UBER lewtz. Thus casual gamers get increasingly tired and despotic of hardcore gamers. It has nothing to do with how much you play, it's a generalization which oversteps the actual range of gamers it is supposed to cover. I know a couple of my best friends in games (note: not friends I can contact in RL) are from other countries and play like you do. Thus it is safe to say, that just as pvp'ers like to call non-pvp'ers "carebears" etc, you are being lumped becaused of a few nasty folks out there into one big pile. Anyway, enjoy your MMO retirement and peace. imageTacklebury --}>>>Explorer 93%
    Achiever 53%
    Socializer 33%
    Killer 20%

    I agree that there are Elitists out there. My guild is named The Elitists LOL. But i run pickup raids 2 times a week for 2nd tier casual gamers to get flags and loots. About 40% of the pickup raid comes from my guild. The problem comes from broad generalizations. People who classify a segment of the community based on the actions of a select few that are more visible are showing a great deal of ignorance.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433



    Originally posted by Copeland




    Originally posted by Anofalye
    Most hardcores players dont make money from playing games.

    If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob! image

    - "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''



    Most of the ones i know do in fact make money.. Its really hard not to.

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    LOL.  You are a ridiculous!  *put my worst french accent*

     

    I guess you know more peoples that ARE like you rather then hardcores.

     

    Stay away from me, I would report you and get your account banned by the staff if you harass me in game to try to buy my stuff and resell it at a another!  (did get a few banned in the past)

     

    It is easier to not make money then to make money when you are a hardcore, you have nothing to do to not sell virtual goodies.

     

    The next time you include such a generalisation about hardcore, I will honestly ask the staff of this board to review the case as I will feel you are insulting me and attacking my reputation  *take the worst french accent I can muster*

     

    Away with you!  Evil creature!

    - "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • PuoltryPuoltry Member Posts: 956

    Yeah im sure you meet a lot of girls this way too.

    Want to ENJOY an mmo?

    Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.

    Just play the damn game:)

  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719


    Originally posted by Copeland
    Originally posted by Anofalye
    Most hardcores players dont make money from playing games.

    If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob! image- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''


    Most of the ones i know do in fact make money.. Its really hard not to.

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    Sorry, I don't think every hardcore gamer out there breaks the rules.


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  • TrooperrTrooperr Member Posts: 15
    I think they have no life. yep.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Anofalye
    Originally posted by Copeland Originally posted by AnofalyeMost hardcores players dont make money from playing games.If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob! image- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''Most of the ones i know do in fact make money.. Its really hard not to.
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    LOL. You are a ridiculous! *put my worst french accent*

    I guess you know more peoples that ARE like you rather then hardcores.

    Stay away from me, I would report you and get your account banned by the staff if you harass me in game to try to buy my stuff and resell it at a another! (did get a few banned in the past)

    It is easier to not make money then to make money when you are a hardcore, you have nothing to do to not sell virtual goodies.

    The next time you include such a generalisation about hardcore, I will honestly ask the staff of this board to review the case as I will feel you are insulting me and attacking my reputation *take the worst french accent I can muster*

    Away with you! Evil creature!- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''


    Sorry man but what i do is not bannable but thanks for acting like you know what your talking about.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Xzaro
    Originally posted by Copeland
    Originally posted by Anofalye
    Most hardcores players dont make money from playing games.

    If you deem to associate your ''ethic'' to all hardcores, get lost noob! image- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''


    Most of the ones i know do in fact make money.. Its really hard not to.

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    Sorry, I don't think every hardcore gamer out there breaks the rules.



    Its not against the rules to make money... Its how you make the money that COULD be againsts the rules.


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  • Iceman12321Iceman12321 Member Posts: 992


    Originally posted by Trooperr
    I think they have no life. yep.

    -- gotta agree with you a little here. I only think many/most of them though::=^)::. Why the heck would you want to play games inside the house when theres so much more todo outside of this world? Many of the people on the boards are adults, and I am sometimes confused why they're here talking how many hours there putting into their game, rather than working or traveling or seeing things outside the gaming world. This is just ME though. They're defense? I enjoy it. I enjoy traveling, doing things outside the house. Other people have other interests. life is diverse.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Might i point out that Project-Entropia encourages and facilitates the making of money off their game..

    Same narrow minded ignorant fools i see posting on this thread. You really should investigate your genre before you open your mouth and show how absolutely retarded you are.

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  • Asmodeus_Asmodeus_ Member Posts: 223

    Hi,

    someone who sits at the bar everynight has no life either. ::::13:: you moron (@ threadmaker).
    Im not gonna argue with you, But i give you right, just do what you whant to do aslong as you dont give up life.
    It all has to do with the 'sociaty these days' of some people who talk to much, If you caught some1 calling you a 'loser', they live to much in there 'sociaty, in the sociaty' which changes every10years, This view is very demanding and hard to fit in.
    Its unreal and it rules the people. with fault and filthy thoughts.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Iceman12321
    Originally posted by Trooperr
    I think they have no life. yep.

    -- gotta agree with you a little here. I only think many/most of them though::=^)::. Why the heck would you want to play games inside the house when theres so much more todo outside of this world? Many of the people on the boards are adults, and I am sometimes confused why they're here talking how many hours there putting into their game, rather than working or traveling or seeing things outside the gaming world. This is just ME though. They're defense? I enjoy it. I enjoy traveling, doing things outside the house. Other people have other interests. life is diverse.



    *edit* i read your post wrong at first

    I'm not expecting everyone to understand hardcore gamers. I'm only asking that they dont lump every hardcore gamer in one group. We're not all Elititists. Some dont make money. The problem comes in generalizing or placing your values ahead of another and then judging them. Like you say.. Life is diverse.

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  • Iceman12321Iceman12321 Member Posts: 992


    Originally posted by Copeland
    Might i point out that Project-Entropia encourages and facilitates the making of money off their game..Same narrow minded ignorant fools i see posting on this thread. You really should investigate your genre before you open your mouth and show how absolutely retarded you are.image

    -- may I assume you were thinking of myself?::=^)::

  • aLeX666aLeX666 Member Posts: 153

    Playing Video games, unlike Sports, doesn't entertain anyone but yourself.

    I've read a Hardcore gamer makes about 50KUS$ a year. And most of these gamers dropped out of school to play video games... It's ok if you're glued to a chair your whole life... I'll be studying and the money will flow so I can actually enjoy a video game without feeling pushed to play for food...

     

    EDIT : I don't call hardcore gamers losers... but I don't respect their lifestyle much.


    "I am trying to see things from your perspective but I just can't get my head that far up my @$$."

    "I am trying to see things from your perspective but I just can't get my head that far up my @$$."

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Puoltry
    Yeah im sure you meet a lot of girls this way too.

    OMG I forgot the meaning of life is to meet girls.. Duh how stupid can i be!

    women come and women go. My lifes pursuit is happiness not counting pelts. Do i meet alot of women online? not really.. Am i looking to meet women? not really..

    Sorry but once you get out of your adolescence the pursuit of sex is not the all powerful force it once was. I am married and my wife plays these games as well. Should i still be out lookin for sex? Maybe we enjoy our lifestyle. Who are you to judge?

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by aLeX666
    Playing Video games, unlike Sports, doesn't entertain anyone but yourself.
    I've read a Hardcore gamer makes about 50KUS$ a year. And most of these gamers dropped out of school to play video games... It's ok if you're glued to a chair your whole life... I'll be studying and the money will flow so I can actually enjoy a video game without feeling pushed to play for food...

    EDIT : I don't call hardcore gamers losers... but I don't respect their lifestyle much."I am trying to see things from your perspective but I just can't get my head that far up my @$$."


    Well although i am a hardcore gamer i also played Ice Hockey for 25 years. There comes a time when your knees dont work like they did when you were 18. 50k a year is about accurate. Maybe most of them did drop out of school. I myself am a college graduate. Sometimes i feel glued to my chair. Study up .. your paycheck will only be as good as the economy allows it to be. Certain things are and always will be out of your control.

    Oh and i dont feel pushed to play games so i can eat. As i said you really dont even have to try to make money on these things.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    So are professional chess players losers too? Does Kasparov have no life because he sits analyzing chess games for hours on end? Do professional golfers have no life because they spend 10 hours a day practicing putting or swinging? I suppose anyone who spends most of their time doing one thing has their head up their ass and if they do something that you enjoy but make money off it they must be evil.

    But i bet if i wrote a song about my bitches sippin on my 40 and how i like to grind them then beat'm i'd be your hero and you'd give me your money?

    Or maybe i could put a ball through a hoop 40 times in one game and even though i raped women you'd still buy tickets to come see me play.

    Wonder whats wrong with society.. really

    Without buyers there are no sellers...

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  • seykaldissseykaldiss Member Posts: 18

    Oh my god. What a complete waste of my time. I thought perhaps there would be some interesting discussion but no it's just flame and counter-flame. This kind of topic is completely useless. By the second post it had degraded to personal attacks. Author, please go and make you money in a quiet corner somewhere from playing games and dont shove it down peoples throats that you are an Elite player and just so good. image

    I am glad you are happy what you are doing, but personally I dont care what it is. What am interested in is new ideas about MMORPGs and constructive statements and comparisons about them and not personal "Alll youse peoples suxes." rubbish.

    To steal a quote from an admin here at MMORPG:

    "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true."
    Author Unk.

     

     

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433



    Originally posted by Copeland

    Might i point out that Project-Entropia encourages and facilitates the making of money off their game..
    Same narrow minded ignorant fools i see posting on this thread. You really should investigate your genre before you open your mouth and show how absolutely retarded you are.
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    I only see 1 fool.

     

    Making money instead of making fun defeat the purpose, and if you ruin the fun of 1 player doing so, be sure I wont be by your side.

     

    Again, I share nothing in comon with you, and I am pretty proud of that.

     

    Selling virtual stuff for real stuff in return is immoral, I dont care what the law say on this and only a complete jerk will argue over this.  Selling stuff that dont exist IS immoral.  And selling ''services'' like been "a friend", is been a whore.

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    I agree, I lack a RL.  Sowwy, but as a hardcore I make fun somewhere while I make little out there in RL.  You can laugh at me as a hardcore...but I make fun playing more then 80 hours a week.

     

    If you are going to lack respect toward a hardcore way of life, please make sure to lack respect toward all religious, all alcooholics, all poors, all peoples that are equally wasting their time and been unproductive for the corporations.  I work 40 hours a week to play another 80 or so.  Copperland is a trash and dont judge the hardcores on him and his friends please, he do it because working peoples allow him to leeche on them, the feeder is 10 times more the problem then the leech, you will never run out of leeches.

     

    Playing on a computer is certainly not expensive, not damaging to health(unless you eat to much), it is not harming anyone and may indeed encourage some form of limited social interaction(I dont believe in enforcing by making it better or the only way to work better).  Of course doing stuff in RL is better in theory, depending what you do and if you enjoy it.  But trying to change the hardcore gamers while you have poverty and alcoohol rampant in the country, I say you have far more bigger concerns then a few dreamers.


    - "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

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