What I could never understand is why could not just re-verse the game to pre NGE state, it would have brought them masses and masses of people back. thats what happens when old farts in suits make decisions. IDIOTS.
I'm almost positive that none of the devs currently working on the game have any idea on how to work with that code.
It is good that more people get to play together but it also shows that this game is not growing at all. Beginning of the end I'm afraid once The Old Republic hits the shelves.
I have the urge to sing "ding dong, the witch is dead", but that would be prematurely....
And I do feel a bit sad, because Wanderhome was my server for quite some time. Where I along with my cousin and best bud hung around RP'ing, jesting and making a tiny reputation as the Galland family...
And on Wanderhome is also where my "real SWG home" is, where on a small island in a lake on Corellia, we had our home complex. I'm going to miss that island.. But it also housed my toomb so I guess it's only poetic justice, SOE's playerbase dying around my toomb hehe.
You know what I think is bloody fricken hilarious? The gold farmers are just as retarded as Sony is, because you still find them like mad in th is game, and SoE has OBVIOUSLY given up on doing anything about them.
I wonder if SoE even realizes that games they touch slowly wither and die, kinda like those infected with H1N1.
"Life is not judged by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."
Even though I don't play, and probably won't play anymore it makes me sad that the server I started on is one that will close. I agree that this is probably a smart move on SOE's part and can only benefit the people who still play.
The people on the servers left better welcome the few who have to transfer with open arms. If there's any that cancel they're welcome here anytime. The light is always on. Sorry to hear this, but hopefully the death of those worlds will bring some life to others.
See you in the dream.. The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
I probably will pony up the $45 to reactivate 3 accounts and rescue my beloved characters from oblivion, even if I never play them again. Nice last-ditch profit-taking on SOE's part. It's worth it to me just to keep the memory alive of a game set soon after the time of the first Star Wars movie (Episode 4) where Jedi Knights were a legend, not a character class. No MMO with Jedi as a player class can succeed, long-term. I know it's all just about money and giving people what they want, even if they don't last. I'm confident that the number of subscriptions in SWTOR will be less the third year than either first 2 after release. You can't balance Jedi, and people won't stick with an imbalanced MMO.
I remember how badly bugged and imbalanced pre-CU/pre-Jedi SWG was too though. It's tragic that SOE could not find a way to fix what was broken instead of making it into something most did not want to play, no matter how many good times we had together. It was one example after another of design decisions that were totally out of balance. ...like the attempt to resurrect Creature Handler. Lack of judgement has been the development order of the day all along for SWG. I hope future MMO developers really learn the lessons of SWG. There were MANY. ...and all based on what I think is the best IP ever and the most immersive game world (in terms of graphics, sound, and people) I've ever played in. Neither of the 2 Star Wars MMOs in development can match the potential of an Episode 4 - 5 world for an MMO. They had that part right from the start but SOE didn't stay on target.
I checked the CTS and you now can only transfer to destination servers. Before todays update, you could still pay to go to a Transfer From server. Its all one way now for only characters you made there before today.
I think they should have a FFA Housing Packup until Oct. 15 for those still there. That would only help clean the server for final shutdown.
I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. Typical SOE jacked up mismanagement to let people transfer off dead servers to still populated servers, then leave the empty, dead servers open for so long, leaving a bad impression on newbs and returning vets alike.
It's sad to see those servers go, but this is the start of the end. I think when SW:TOR launches either SWG is gone or alot of servers will be gone. I still have some of my old pre-cu screenshots and i am talking to some of my old guildies. But this is just causing a chain reaction. First these, over about 4/6months another 2/3 will shut down and then it's matter of time before the pull the plug.
/salute old Euro-Chimaera peeps, and /salute to the <MJSTC> and <LB> members
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Honestly, all I can say is serves you EFFin right SOE. Screw the players, you get screwed right back. They have denied the claims that servers are empty for so long, and, op, what's this?
I am definitely sad to see my home Kauri go, especially our player city Arakeen on Tat, with its Admiral Snackbar =(.
Your days are numbered SWG... come SWTOR, your coffin's nailed.
Cinori Aluben - CSM6 2011 Fix The Little Things First! www.littlethingsfirst.com EVE-Online
We heard that SWG will be shutting down servers, could you explain why the decision was made to do so?
SOE:
Of course and I'm happy you asked that hard question, after all shutting down servers seems to always mean bad things are happening and that is far from the truth. Star Wars Galaxies is doing better than ever. We implemented the Free Character Transfer Service early this year and its success was beyond what we hoped for. It was so successful we extended, not once but twice this year.
...
Interviewer:
It is always good to hear of success, so getting back to the question, why are the servers being shut down?
SOE:
The Free Character Transfer Service was so phenomenally successful …
Interviewer:
Ah, how phenomenally successful was it?
SOE:
The Free Character Transfer Service was so phenomenally successful that players left “the less active servers in an undesirable position. In order to help streamline the current and new user experience, we have made the decision to close the less active servers and focus on the thriving Star Wars Galaxies servers.”
It was a tough call, but we believe we made the right one.
Interviewer:
So the FCTS was the reason for shutting down the 12 servers?
SOE:
Absolutely, and now players will have a more exciting and fun time being in the transferred populated servers due to the most excellent success of the Free Character Transfer System. In fact we are going to be releases some cool and exciting content soon. Its meant to be a secret, but why not tell you, we're going to be adding in Zombies, which this is an awesome time for Zombie content, there are a lot of Zombie movies coming out and...
Interviewer:
Ah Zombies right, we already covered that. Getting back to the servers, historically speaking server merges...
SOE:
Correction, we are not merging servers nor have we done so with Star Wars Galaxies.
Interviewer:
Okay, historically speaking the shutting down of servers has been due to low amounts of paying subscribers, which would be of low player population. Is this the case with SWG? Does SWG actually have low numbers of paying subscribers?
SOE:
The number of subscribers was not part of the consideration for the decision.
Interviewer:
Whatever, so does SWG have a low subscriber base?
SOE:
Sorry but I am not allowed to comment on that. It is Sony Online Entertainment's policy to not disclose subscriber numbers.
Interviewer:
Fine, is SWG growing in subscribers?
SOE:
That is obvious, the remaining servers are growing in size, even as we speak.
Interviewer:
I meant SWG in general terms, not of specific servers.
SOE:
Oh, Star Wars Galaxies in general? Star Wars Galaxies is doing great, better than ever!
Interviewer:
Moving right along ... the shutting down of servers is often seen as a precursor of closing a game. Is SWG going to be closing down anytime soon or during the release of your competitor's title?
SOE:
Could you please rephrase the question? Our targeted demographic of Star Wars Galaxies is unlikely to know what “precursor” means.
Interviewer:
Ugh, is SWG shutting down soon?
SOE:
“No, not at all. We have lots of new content and updates planned for Galaxies and remain committed to making the game an enjoyable and engrossing experience. The server closure is an effort to improve the gameplay experience for all of our players.”
Interviewer:
I know that is from the FAQ, I was hoping for a straight answer from you.
SOE:
No
Interviewer:
No as in “No, SWG will be running for years to come,” or “No, you will always give me a spin?”
SOE:
Yes
Interviewer:
Ok I think we're done here...
SOE:
Since we are coming to the end of this wonderful interview, I would like to chime in that we have some exciting content coming soon to celebrate the beyond our greatest expectations of the Free Character Transfer Service. Not only are there going to be cool Zombies, but also big monsters in space. Rawr!
Interviewer:
I would like to thank you for taking the time with us for our show and may I hope to never do another interview with you.
SOE:
Glad to have been here, looking forward to another interview.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
I am both happy and sad at the same time about this news. I am sad because the "BEST SERVER IN SWG INTREPID" is one of the servers being shut down. Which I played from launch until about 6 months after NGE came out. Might I remind everyone that INTREPID was where the FIRST JEDI came from. I was online the day that happened. I still get chills remembering seeing the message from Lord Vader of a disturbance in the force and to report anyone suspicious!!!! GREAT TIMES!!!!
If you asked me back in 2004 (and some people did in game) if I would ever quit the game I said no. Then the horrendous NGE came along and ruined the game and the whole player population left.
So yes I am sad to see this "ICONIC" server go (hey SOE is always using iconic so why can't I) but I am happy because that means this game is finally in it's sunset phase. SOE has deserved what they've gotten with the low pops, they brought it on themselves by taking the greatest mmo ever made and making it suck.
Screw you SOE, you will never get my money again for an mmo. Glad to see anything you do fail!
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I'm almost positive that none of the devs currently working on the game have any idea on how to work with that code.
It is good that more people get to play together but it also shows that this game is not growing at all. Beginning of the end I'm afraid once The Old Republic hits the shelves.
Another Day 1 Kauri vet here as well, will be sad to see Kauri go even tho I havent returned since the NGE.
S! Kauri server and thanks for such a great mmo experience.
This is Ripper Daman signing off.
I have the urge to sing "ding dong, the witch is dead", but that would be prematurely....
And I do feel a bit sad, because Wanderhome was my server for quite some time. Where I along with my cousin and best bud hung around RP'ing, jesting and making a tiny reputation as the Galland family...
And on Wanderhome is also where my "real SWG home" is, where on a small island in a lake on Corellia, we had our home complex. I'm going to miss that island.. But it also housed my toomb so I guess it's only poetic justice, SOE's playerbase dying around my toomb hehe.
Adios Kett.
You know what I think is bloody fricken hilarious? The gold farmers are just as retarded as Sony is, because you still find them like mad in th is game, and SoE has OBVIOUSLY given up on doing anything about them.
I wonder if SoE even realizes that games they touch slowly wither and die, kinda like those infected with H1N1.
"Life is not judged by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."
Even though I don't play, and probably won't play anymore it makes me sad that the server I started on is one that will close. I agree that this is probably a smart move on SOE's part and can only benefit the people who still play.
RIP Tarquinas.
Brakes my heart to see those servers go.
/pours some out
The people on the servers left better welcome the few who have to transfer with open arms. If there's any that cancel they're welcome here anytime. The light is always on. Sorry to hear this, but hopefully the death of those worlds will bring some life to others.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
I probably will pony up the $45 to reactivate 3 accounts and rescue my beloved characters from oblivion, even if I never play them again. Nice last-ditch profit-taking on SOE's part. It's worth it to me just to keep the memory alive of a game set soon after the time of the first Star Wars movie (Episode 4) where Jedi Knights were a legend, not a character class. No MMO with Jedi as a player class can succeed, long-term. I know it's all just about money and giving people what they want, even if they don't last. I'm confident that the number of subscriptions in SWTOR will be less the third year than either first 2 after release. You can't balance Jedi, and people won't stick with an imbalanced MMO.
I remember how badly bugged and imbalanced pre-CU/pre-Jedi SWG was too though. It's tragic that SOE could not find a way to fix what was broken instead of making it into something most did not want to play, no matter how many good times we had together. It was one example after another of design decisions that were totally out of balance. ...like the attempt to resurrect Creature Handler. Lack of judgement has been the development order of the day all along for SWG. I hope future MMO developers really learn the lessons of SWG. There were MANY. ...and all based on what I think is the best IP ever and the most immersive game world (in terms of graphics, sound, and people) I've ever played in. Neither of the 2 Star Wars MMOs in development can match the potential of an Episode 4 - 5 world for an MMO. They had that part right from the start but SOE didn't stay on target.
Sad. I met my fiance on Kettemoor.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Even though I haven't played in over 4 years, I'm sad to see it happen. I hope to see what's left be a better world for those who are left.
Kyria Nyriese - Starsider
Tyria Nyriese - Starsider
Ah she will be missed. It does make me sad.
Yet, I don't play the game and have not except that free month, in forever.
Yeah, I still play with people who I met on Kettemoor, some great people.
An other Kauri vet here , a server and a game i miss so much.
See you on emu , i will surely create a toon on whatever server will be available , just to remember the old days
12 down, 13 to go..get the coffin ready.
This is sad, But SOE never give up on there games.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
As a follow up,
I checked the CTS and you now can only transfer to destination servers. Before todays update, you could still pay to go to a Transfer From server. Its all one way now for only characters you made there before today.
I think they should have a FFA Housing Packup until Oct. 15 for those still there. That would only help clean the server for final shutdown.
I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. Typical SOE jacked up mismanagement to let people transfer off dead servers to still populated servers, then leave the empty, dead servers open for so long, leaving a bad impression on newbs and returning vets alike.
It's sad to see those servers go, but this is the start of the end. I think when SW:TOR launches either SWG is gone or alot of servers will be gone. I still have some of my old pre-cu screenshots and i am talking to some of my old guildies. But this is just causing a chain reaction. First these, over about 4/6months another 2/3 will shut down and then it's matter of time before the pull the plug.
/salute old Euro-Chimaera peeps, and /salute to the <MJSTC> and <LB> members
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
RIP Valcyn: Vissuri Vis signing off
Honestly, all I can say is serves you EFFin right SOE. Screw the players, you get screwed right back. They have denied the claims that servers are empty for so long, and, op, what's this?
I am definitely sad to see my home Kauri go, especially our player city Arakeen on Tat, with its Admiral Snackbar =(.
Your days are numbered SWG... come SWTOR, your coffin's nailed.
Cinori Aluben - CSM6 2011
Fix The Little Things First!
www.littlethingsfirst.com
EVE-Online
Even though they are merging servers, this game's not going anywhere for at least 3-5 years minimum.
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
A "What If" of an interview about this...
Interviewer:
We heard that SWG will be shutting down servers, could you explain why the decision was made to do so?
SOE:
Of course and I'm happy you asked that hard question, after all shutting down servers seems to always mean bad things are happening and that is far from the truth. Star Wars Galaxies is doing better than ever. We implemented the Free Character Transfer Service early this year and its success was beyond what we hoped for. It was so successful we extended, not once but twice this year.
...
Interviewer:
It is always good to hear of success, so getting back to the question, why are the servers being shut down?
SOE:
The Free Character Transfer Service was so phenomenally successful …
Interviewer:
Ah, how phenomenally successful was it?
SOE:
The Free Character Transfer Service was so phenomenally successful that players left “the less active servers in an undesirable position. In order to help streamline the current and new user experience, we have made the decision to close the less active servers and focus on the thriving Star Wars Galaxies servers.”
It was a tough call, but we believe we made the right one.
Interviewer:
So the FCTS was the reason for shutting down the 12 servers?
SOE:
Absolutely, and now players will have a more exciting and fun time being in the transferred populated servers due to the most excellent success of the Free Character Transfer System. In fact we are going to be releases some cool and exciting content soon. Its meant to be a secret, but why not tell you, we're going to be adding in Zombies, which this is an awesome time for Zombie content, there are a lot of Zombie movies coming out and...
Interviewer:
Ah Zombies right, we already covered that. Getting back to the servers, historically speaking server merges...
SOE:
Correction, we are not merging servers nor have we done so with Star Wars Galaxies.
Interviewer:
Okay, historically speaking the shutting down of servers has been due to low amounts of paying subscribers, which would be of low player population. Is this the case with SWG? Does SWG actually have low numbers of paying subscribers?
SOE:
The number of subscribers was not part of the consideration for the decision.
Interviewer:
Whatever, so does SWG have a low subscriber base?
SOE:
Sorry but I am not allowed to comment on that. It is Sony Online Entertainment's policy to not disclose subscriber numbers.
Interviewer:
Fine, is SWG growing in subscribers?
SOE:
That is obvious, the remaining servers are growing in size, even as we speak.
Interviewer:
I meant SWG in general terms, not of specific servers.
SOE:
Oh, Star Wars Galaxies in general? Star Wars Galaxies is doing great, better than ever!
Interviewer:
Moving right along ... the shutting down of servers is often seen as a precursor of closing a game. Is SWG going to be closing down anytime soon or during the release of your competitor's title?
SOE:
Could you please rephrase the question? Our targeted demographic of Star Wars Galaxies is unlikely to know what “precursor” means.
Interviewer:
Ugh, is SWG shutting down soon?
SOE:
“No, not at all. We have lots of new content and updates planned for Galaxies and remain committed to making the game an enjoyable and engrossing experience. The server closure is an effort to improve the gameplay experience for all of our players.”
Interviewer:
I know that is from the FAQ, I was hoping for a straight answer from you.
SOE:
No
Interviewer:
No as in “No, SWG will be running for years to come,” or “No, you will always give me a spin?”
SOE:
Yes
Interviewer:
Ok I think we're done here...
SOE:
Since we are coming to the end of this wonderful interview, I would like to chime in that we have some exciting content coming soon to celebrate the beyond our greatest expectations of the Free Character Transfer Service. Not only are there going to be cool Zombies, but also big monsters in space. Rawr!
Interviewer:
I would like to thank you for taking the time with us for our show and may I hope to never do another interview with you.
SOE:
Glad to have been here, looking forward to another interview.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
Goodnight, Intrepid.
There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum
I am both happy and sad at the same time about this news. I am sad because the "BEST SERVER IN SWG INTREPID" is one of the servers being shut down. Which I played from launch until about 6 months after NGE came out. Might I remind everyone that INTREPID was where the FIRST JEDI came from. I was online the day that happened. I still get chills remembering seeing the message from Lord Vader of a disturbance in the force and to report anyone suspicious!!!! GREAT TIMES!!!!
If you asked me back in 2004 (and some people did in game) if I would ever quit the game I said no. Then the horrendous NGE came along and ruined the game and the whole player population left.
So yes I am sad to see this "ICONIC" server go (hey SOE is always using iconic so why can't I) but I am happy because that means this game is finally in it's sunset phase. SOE has deserved what they've gotten with the low pops, they brought it on themselves by taking the greatest mmo ever made and making it suck.
Screw you SOE, you will never get my money again for an mmo. Glad to see anything you do fail!
RIP INTREPID
Terran Hawkins "Jedi Master" Master Lightsaber/Master Defender