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server population stats?
I never played the game, I had alot of fun just watching the doomed pre-launch fervor and the Hindenburg that was the post-launch. I left following the devastation after the NA launch as there was just a smoldering carcas of burned helium, twisted iron and a few spot fires here and there at that point. The chaos had plateaued from it's original attention demanding demeanor and I am a progressivist, so I left following this dainty little greek creation.
My question is, what has become of it since?
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Some threads from the official boards on the subject... make your own judgement.
week 3 - you called it, bored..
Decrease in population as of late..
Down the drain
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Which server has the most population
Forget transfers, MERGE SERVERS
Everyone is playing Aion.
By my guess till October expansion, I seriously doubt Aion will hold PVPers over more than 1 month. And those damn transfers...
Aion received significant PVP additions in the latest patch so yes, pvpers will stay much longer than 1 month.
Aion received significant PVP additions in the latest patch so yes, pvpers will stay much longer than 1 month.
Doubtful. As they move up the rankings there is so much significant risk to pvping most will hide in a corner of the abyss and pve. Its already going on in Asia and NA will be no different at all.
Ranking isn't the primary objective of PVP in Aion.
You could collect Abyss points (You gain if you kill other players, you lose if you die to other players) which you can exchange for equipment. If you don't pvp or "hide in a corner" like you proclaim, you're not going to get many, or any, points.
You can now also take over keeps. The faction that controls the keep will have access to dungeons that only the faction that controls the keep can enter.
Aion received significant PVP additions in the latest patch so yes, pvpers will stay much longer than 1 month.
Doubtful. As they move up the rankings there is so much significant risk to pvping most will hide in a corner of the abyss and pve. Its already going on in Asia and NA will be no different at all.
Ranking isn't the primary objective of PVP in Aion.
You could collect Abyss points (You gain if you kill other players, you lose if you die to other players) which you can exchange for equipment. If you don't pvp or "hide in a corner" like you proclaim, you're not going to get many, or any, points.
You can now also take over keeps. The faction that controls the keep will have access to dungeons that only the faction that controls the keep can enter.
You gain rank with points though and the higher you get in rank the risk is much greater than the reward to go into a fight where you could lose which already has in Asia and will in NA cause people with lots of abyss points to hide in a corner. The gear is quiet expensive for the really good stuff. Casual folk will not like the abyss at al. As far as faction control it will be alot like WAR where numbers trumps all else. The 3rd faction is nice but it doesnt create balance.
You're not going to stay high in the rankings for long if you hide because other players will eventually surpass you.
The gear is quite expensive hence you'll have a very, very long time before PVP becomes pointless and by that time, NCsoft will probably already have another update ready.
Casual Folk will enjoy the Abyss, just because a game doesn't toss around rewards every 5 seconds doesn't mean it's not casual friendly.
About keep control, thats a wait and see thing, it's only been just out in Korea. There are multiple keeps to get and NCsoft is taking a very, very agressive stance towards faction balance: If one side becomes to populated, they will simply put a lock on that faction so new players can only join the other side.
Doubtful. As they move up the rankings there is so much significant risk to pvping most will hide in a corner of the abyss and pve. Its already going on in Asia and NA will be no different at all.
Not really, Your talking about 1% of the server pop (the one's that are going for there end game abyss PvP gear). When they get it there not going to care about ap loss or rankings (unless the person wants the top spot for the transform / raid boss skills). Most will just care about pvping after they get the elite gear.
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AV need to do some advertasing for DF. Maybe after he October expansion : )
Is that the excuse for the last few months since NA launched and Aventurine published their first "expansion"? What are the clan counts on each server now?
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As far as i can tell the game is doing so so, but not really much better then that. The game has alot of issues reguarding travel and newbie areas it needs to resolve to maintain a decent population influx, at minimum along with other things.
the real questions are going to be how many people will come back/transfer over from EU? And how many people will continue to subscribe? it would be nice to have some hard numbers, but the people who used to do the counts have all quit or just given up spending time doing them. As someone who refuses to spend time doing something like that, i can't blame them. I still feel the same way i always did about Eu/NA and that is that the population level isnt high enough to really create a good pvp enviroment. the lack of a driving force to control cities/hamlets is prevalent, and the game on both servers never really reached a state where population growth was creating tensions or problems imo.
As far as Aion, honestly after doing the beta thing i can say i have no interest in it personally. Seems like another themepark style MMO, with the standard setup and system that we have seen for along time now. I found the game to be very well polished, in a very good state, just it really holds little to no appeal for me. im sure Aion will see alot of subs, its targeted to the mass market really. How long those subs last will really depend. Frankly im not intersted in playing a game where PVP is basically zero loss,zero risk, and coupled with instant respawn. It wasnt bad in wow for awile, but its not something that is sustainable.
I was one of hte people who tallied numbers, at least for the month I subscrbied on the EU server. I do think Darkfall had a lot of promise and I think it's slowly (very slowly) getting better, but it was in a pretty messy state when it launched and that's when it had it's peak numbers. I'd love to see it improve and might consider resubbing at some point in the future if I like what I see. Who knows? I will say that Darkfall, hairy warts and all, at least made an impression from the very first play session. The sense of danger was palpable. That's a good thing. After playing through 10 levels each on 3 different characters in Aion, my only impression was 'meh'. Yes, you ascend at 10 and yes, you pvp at higher levels, but I'm looking for a game to "grab" me and Aion just didn't. Even much, much lighter, fluffier fare like Dungeon Runners and Wizard101 at least grabbed me from the beginning, because they were different (one with humor and straight up hack-n-slash, the other with an innovative turn-based, card deck combat system). I don't want to have to play 25 levels of Aion to see how different it's going to be. Even WAR had some relatively innovative features at the low levels. I just wish the focus of the game was RVR from the beginning, not some hybrid of a generic fantasy PVE MMO with RVR mixed in.
~Ripper
Numbers?
Go read the forums.. everyday there's a new post or two about no players in game.. everyone leaving. Not that that should be surprising..
This game will be dead within a few short months.. actually it already is if you consider they barely have a few K players left.
Think about all the hype pre-launch. Even with all that hype, they couldn't fill 2 servers. This is now an 'old' game... while I'm sure it will pick up players along the way, they will be dwarfed by the number of players leaving. The game and dev team have a terrible reputation, games just don't recover from that (see Funcom).
Darkfall will fall apart quickly because PVP is so dependant on populations. Players that play a game like Darkfall want to PvP, and if they can't find other players, they will leave for a more populated pvp game.
I don't know though.. the devs keep pumping out expansions every month. They are unbelievably proficient. WOW has had 2 expansion in 5 years. Darkfall will have 2 in 6 months. /sarcasm.
There is NOTHING that can possibly happen that can make Darkfall have more subscribers tomorrow then it has today. If the devs do everything right, the best they can do is flatten out the downward slope of subscribers. The 'expansion' is not going to bring back new players, the best it will do is keep current subscribers paying an extra month or two. This isn't a WOW expansion with a ton of retired players out there waiting for the expansion.. this is a terrible darkfall dev team putting out minor patches that dont' contain much.
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I think as soon DF is done patching from "beta", we will see the same amount of ads for DF as we see for Aion right now.
And only then will we see more people. As it is right now, you speak about DF in front of normal people...and they scream and run away (carebears). If you want sandbox and PvP*...there is nothing else right now.
* I thought it would be a waste of time to point out all the other features there. If you dont know all of them already, you need to learn more about the game anyway.
Aion received significant PVP additions in the latest patch so yes, pvpers will stay much longer than 1 month.
Doubtful. As they move up the rankings there is so much significant risk to pvping most will hide in a corner of the abyss and pve. Its already going on in Asia and NA will be no different at all.
I'll bet the top ranking pvpers in one month will be rigged into those positions by having large guilds playing both sides of the field. Aside from the hardcore that go to those lengths I doubt rankings and points will hold people back from PvP.
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Wasn't that line used right before they released their last "expansion"?
It wasn't too long ago, and there were quite a few posts predicting the explosion of new players and old players coming back that the first "expansion" was going to create.
Big surprise... it didn't happen.
Same thing when the skill-gains patch was announced. Population explosion will happen for sure now... it didn't happen.
There were quite a few giddy posts when it was discovered DarkFall had an infrequent ad here on mmorpg.com. Nevermind the fact that mmorpg.com has been disparaged by the fans of DarkFall almost as much as Eurogamer.
So now we are once again told of the impending wave of advertising, new players, and undeniable population boom that the new "expansion" coming in October will bring.
Heh... you'll have to excuse some of us for not stepping in line just quite yet.
If nothing else, you would think that everyone would learn to wait to actually see what Aventurine delivers before they speak of the greatness that is the October "expansion".
I do find it a bit funny that quite a few ardent supporters of DarkFall, both here and on the official forums; still speak of DarkFall in "Beta" terms. That isn't exactly a good selling point, as truthful as it might be.
Oh well, perhaps this upcoming October "expansion" will indeed put DarkFall on a path to greatness. I hope some won't mind that I actually wait to see what is delivered before I jump on the band-wagon though.
DF has like 10-15k subs across two servers.
It's activity is around 2-3k players during primetime on the NA server and less on off hours.
So of course people are bitching about a empty world. DFs world is massive, unless these guys could get around 20-30k subs each server it will always feel empty.
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Wasn't that line used right before they released their last "expansion"?
It wasn't too long ago, and there were quite a few posts predicting the explosion of new players and old players coming back that the first "expansion" was going to create.
Big surprise... it didn't happen.
Same thing when the skill-gains patch was announced. Population explosion will happen for sure now... it didn't happen.
There were quite a few giddy posts when it was discovered DarkFall had an infrequent ad here on mmorpg.com. Nevermind the fact that mmorpg.com has been disparaged by the fans of DarkFall almost as much as Eurogamer.
So now we are once again told of the impending wave of advertising, new players, and undeniable population boom that the new "expansion" coming in October will bring.
Heh... you'll have to excuse some of us for not stepping in line just quite yet.
If nothing else, you would think that everyone would learn to wait to actually see what Aventurine delivers before they speak of the greatness that is the October "expansion".
I do find it a bit funny that quite a few ardent supporters of DarkFall, both here and on the official forums; still speak of DarkFall in "Beta" terms. That isn't exactly a good selling point, as truthful as it might be.
Oh well, perhaps this upcoming October "expansion" will indeed put DarkFall on a path to greatness. I hope some won't mind that I actually wait to see what is delivered before I jump on the band-wagon though.
Regarding the next "expanion", what happened to the weather from the last expansion? Where are the much touted subscriber-only boards?
~Ripper
Weather had only one function. To fuel haters complaints about "not promised content" for somthing so unimportant like weather. Now that is in and working no one mentions..guess was to fluff and not important eh ?
I hope the subscribers boards come and cut out all the hater grief coming from trolls.
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I think the devs want the weather system to work far more then any player ever could long for it
EU is at a all time low It hasnt recovered from the opening of the NA server. NA still isnt anywhere near what EU used to be.
That said. Even in a less populated DF world if their were faster modes of transportation it would be a lot easier+faster to find fights. Add 4uses to Runestones. Add 4 perma travel gates that take you to the 4 corners of the mainland . Both would be a big help while we wait for more players to arrive for NA and EU.
The world is HUGE. And even at the highest population days of EU it was never more then maybe 10-20% full at peak times.
EU1 has been stable for the past 3 months with a few new people steadily trickling in.
NA1 is large and steady. That's about it.
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They'll be doing a win back program. Probably after the bugs of the next expansion, rather free content update, are fixed
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I don't understand... when did it become evil to call massive upgrades to the game an expansion? MMORPGs have been doing it for 11 years... Lemme guess, just because Darkfall does it?
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Probably when most of the other MMORPGs call them "patch" to bug correction and adding things that should be. An "expansion" to new content.
Weather had only one function. To fuel haters complaints about "not promised content" for somthing so unimportant like weather. Now that is in and working no one mentions..guess was to fluff and not important eh ?
I hope the subscribers boards come and cut out all the hater grief coming from trolls.
I thought the weather idea was a novel concept. Have weather affect your field of view when no radar or auto target is involved could bring a lot of new strategy to the game. You wouldn't cast or shoot from miles away when it's pouring down rain for example because you can't see more than a few feet in front of you.