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Should Aion be allowed to trade this way..........
This has to be one of the best MMOs around. I also understand there rational behind qs,
but, this game is unplayable at the times I want to play, another 1 hour of qing and I got diconected earlier.
Imagine this was your car and you could only use it certain times of the day.
In the UK we have trades description act and this game fails on so many points.
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Imagine so many people buying a car at the same time that you couldn't even drive it because the roads were already full of other people's cars'.
Not much NCsoft can do, be it against the regulations or not.
Perfect.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
--Anonymous fragment of a poem believed written near the end of the previous Age, known by some as the Third Age. Sometimes attributed to the Dragon Reborn
It will dry up soon. After the free month is up a chunk of people will leave. A good chunk of people that don't like to grind will be exiting the game as well once they find out they are forced to grind out levels EQ 1 style. Things will get better.
Aion's release didn't cause the entire internet to lag. Therefore your analogy is flawed.
The issue is entirely within NCSoft's control, although purchasing more servers is something which should only be done with caution, as it can have longterm consequences. They should pursue other solutions like free server transfers in the short term.
Send the players to Ariel imo. I've been playing a fairly significant amount of Aion and have waited 5 minutes total in queue.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
There is a lot they can do. Opening more servers is the easiest on the list though.
There is a lot they can do. Opening more servers is the easiest on the list though.
Of course, but that takes a bit more time than just snapping your fingers. And patience is a lost virtue in today's world =P
I wasn't talking about the entire internet, I was talking about Aion's servers. Buying a new car = buying Aion in the op's example. Servers lagging = roads being full of other cars.
There is a lot they can do. Opening more servers is the easiest on the list though.
Of course, but that takes a bit more time than just snapping your fingers. And patience is a lost virtue in today's world =P
Opening new servers is a financial risk. I doubt we will be seeing new servers before the first free month is up.
I LOL at this post.
Aion has so many quests...there is no grind. It's a game, you play it.
I wonder did you even play EQ1? I have yet to see parties camping and chain pulling mobs to level like we did in EQ1 or FFXI.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
--Anonymous fragment of a poem believed written near the end of the previous Age, known by some as the Third Age. Sometimes attributed to the Dragon Reborn
They already opened one for NA and one for EU already. If another is needed they will open two more.
Already a new west coast US server today. East coast coming soon and 2 new ones for EU as well. Ques are almost gone for the US servers. But i understand still a problem on the EU side. Hang in there, they are getting hooked up as fast as IT can get it done.
I'm old not dead. (Nov8tr is pronounced innovator)
I LOL at this post.
Aion has so many quests...there is no grind. It's a game, you play it.
I wonder did you even play EQ1? I have yet to see parties camping and chain pulling mobs to level like we did in EQ1 or FFXI.
Yea I did play EQ 1. I solo'd as a Druid. There are parts in Aion where you will dry up in quests and have to grind out levels, by doing repeatable quests. Get over yourself turbo nerd.
I LOL at this post.
Aion has so many quests...there is no grind. It's a game, you play it.
I wonder did you even play EQ1? I have yet to see parties camping and chain pulling mobs to level like we did in EQ1 or FFXI.
Yea I did play EQ 1. I solo'd as a Druid. There are parts in Aion where you will dry up in quests and have to grind out levels, by doing repeatable quests. Get over yourself turbo nerd.
I lol at this post.
I have yet to grind anything and I bet I am higher level than you in Aion atm.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
--Anonymous fragment of a poem believed written near the end of the previous Age, known by some as the Third Age. Sometimes attributed to the Dragon Reborn
Im currently 28 almost 29 and since 23 / 24 the game has become rather grindy.
There are a few quests you can do, but its not like pre 20 where you will quest to level. 25+ is all about the abyss grind.
This made me laugh. I would not bother, though. Someone that attacks an analogy in that way just deliberately construe it to mean what they want in order for them to think less of you. It is easier than thinking about the analogy. They just want to prove someone wrong.
That said, your analogy was very good, and it accurate. They gave too many people cars for the space they had to drive them. Now people cannot drive because their is no room. So they come to MMORPG.com and honk their horns because they cannot get out onto the road in the first place.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
I lol at this post.
You really are a turbo nerd. And a rude one, to boot.
Edit:
Sorry for the double post. There was a rude person. I had to lol at them.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
This made me laugh. I would not bother, though. Someone that attacks an analogy in that way just deliberately construe it to mean what they want in order for them to think less of you. It is easier than thinking about the analogy. They just want to prove someone wrong.
That said, your analogy was very good, and it accurate. They gave too many people cars for the space they had to drive them. Now people cannot drive because their is no room. So they come to MMORPG.com and honk their horns because they cannot get out onto the road in the first place.
Actually, there is plenty of room, on the other servers / sides. You could drive a car if you liked, but you only want to drive a Mustang, and since you DEMAND to drive a Mustang, there is limited supply and you need to wait.
Folks the only one forcing you into the queue is you. I play on triniel, and only reason I havent switched personally is my guild logs in about 2 hours before the queue starts so it doesnt affect us.
However, there was a crash on triniel few days back, and during that time I was able to create and play on the 2 servers shown as "hot" on the server selection page, 1 Elyos and one Asmo.
So again... This isnt an NCSoft problem, its to many people wanting to play on a server with limited space.
This made me laugh. I would not bother, though. Someone that attacks an analogy in that way just deliberately construe it to mean what they want in order for them to think less of you. It is easier than thinking about the analogy. They just want to prove someone wrong.
That said, your analogy was very good, and it accurate. They gave too many people cars for the space they had to drive them. Now people cannot drive because their is no room. So they come to MMORPG.com and honk their horns because they cannot get out onto the road in the first place.
Actually, there is plenty of room, on the other servers / sides. You could drive a car if you liked, but you only want to drive a Mustang, and since you DEMAND to drive a Mustang, there is limited supply and you need to wait.
Folks the only one forcing you into the queue is you. I play on triniel, and only reason I havent switched personally is my guild logs in about 2 hours before the queue starts so it doesnt affect us.
However, there was a crash on triniel few days back, and during that time I was able to create and play on the 2 servers shown as "hot" on the server selection page, 1 Elyos and one Asmo.
So again... This isnt an NCSoft problem, its to many people wanting to play on a server with limited space.
Triniel FTW.. tobad i havnt been able to play yet lol .. So i prepurchase, get in the the open beta.. And relise the fan on my Graphics card is broken >_> OMG now my shit is over heating.. Send in to company to claim the recall out on it.. -still waiting for it to return- i should get it back like tuesday but like seriously.. if they didnt give me this free month of play id be murdering sum1 right now!!!... also if u hate the queues people goto less populated servers..... triniel ftw lol
This made me laugh. I would not bother, though. Someone that attacks an analogy in that way just deliberately construe it to mean what they want in order for them to think less of you. It is easier than thinking about the analogy. They just want to prove someone wrong.
That said, your analogy was very good, and it accurate. They gave too many people cars for the space they had to drive them. Now people cannot drive because their is no room. So they come to MMORPG.com and honk their horns because they cannot get out onto the road in the first place.
Actually, there is plenty of room, on the other servers / sides. You could drive a car if you liked, but you only want to drive a Mustang, and since you DEMAND to drive a Mustang, there is limited supply and you need to wait.
Folks the only one forcing you into the queue is you. I play on triniel, and only reason I havent switched personally is my guild logs in about 2 hours before the queue starts so it doesnt affect us.
However, there was a crash on triniel few days back, and during that time I was able to create and play on the 2 servers shown as "hot" on the server selection page, 1 Elyos and one Asmo.
So again... This isnt an NCSoft problem, its to many people wanting to play on a server with limited space.
I am not playing Aion, so I do not know if you are right about whether you can play without a queue or not. I was just saying that the analogy was correct in its construction. You have also changed the analogy to be something totally different, though it also is correct in its construction, if each server is represented by a different model vehicle. If there are 200 Mustangs, only 200 people can be driving them at once.
I still think this is a problem created by preselection. It gave people time to pick servers and for certain servers to be chosen as the elite or best, and those are the servers that people wanted to join. If people had just gone and picked a server and then played straightaway, the problem would not be nearly as bad.
I do not think it can be argued that nothing is wrong. Something is wrong that is causing all the queue and server problems. It may be a technology problem, or it may be their attempt at maintaining balance. But something is going on.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
The queue is down to roughly a half hour at most now, with the new server and afk stores fixed.
Most of the time I log in and their isn't even a queue, so no problems on my end.
Well what is wrong is people.
People always want to go where its considered "best" and for whatever reason Triniel and a few others got that title. However, the game is the same for all three. Is it a pain in the ass to switch servers or sides? Yes, it sucks. However its not as big a pain in the ass as a 3 - 6 hour queue.
As for something being wrong... A large portion of the player base would be on those three servers and most asmo if allowed. This would give a HORRIBLE side imbalance. Did you play warhammer? I was on a server where the odds were 4 to 1 Order... that sucked ass.
Go take a look at the NCSoft Server stats. Other than the new server ALL servers are within a 5% population gap. Thats insane. That means numbers are fairly balanced and we arent going to have one side out number another 4 to 1. That is well worth a little suffering in the first week.
Triniel had very little queues last night, and 0 this morning at noon on a Saturday. Again, I'd completely agree with you people if there was no other server to play on with no queue, but since there are servers with no queues and you can play there... then there is no reason to complain other than simply having a little lost time.
If you guild and you are tight, then your guild shouldnt mind moving. If your guild doesnt want to move... then odds are you are either the minority in your guild and should move along, or your guild doesnt care. Either way... its your choice on where you want to play cause its your 15.
NCsoft isnt denying folks access, they are simply saying you cant play here, try there. Nothing wrong with that...especially since in six months when the realms are all balanced we are going to be thankful
This is a true story, when my father bought his first car, he had to wait a whole year to have it. The demand was huge and there weren't enough cars to be sold.
I think NCsoft is playing it safe, and wise, and waiting to see how many people will subscribe after the first free month.
I'm waiting in a 45min queue btw... 36 more minutes to go.
The main problem of the long AION queues was the private shop "bug" that would enable players to set one up and thus do not get disconnected anymore due to AFK'ing. This has been fixed now. Most realms in Europe seem to have a very tiny queue now. I play on Spatalos which is the most popular English speaking EU realm right now and there a queue still exists, tonight for example it was 1.5 hours (but they also had the login servers down, so that might be a reason for today's queue).
The game and the servers so far are rock solid, so if the player base balances itself overtime due to rerolling, stopping after the trial month (which is usually a lot in most MMOs that came out after WoW) and NC Soft expanding the server capabilities the whole queue problem should fix itself.
Even very popular WoW realms have queues tonight.
The stall "bug" was not really a bug but you could stay in stall mode for a day and a half (or something near that) then you would d/c still a lot of time mind you but from that tons of hours to 30 min seems a bit excessive.
Well it is of course debatable if the newly set maximum of 30 minutes is good or not, but it still accounted for a big part of the queues, in combination with the general run due to the game being new.
Lowering the time (which can still be exploited with a macro that sets up a shop, closes it after 25 mins and the re-open one and so on) + the end of the free month leading to people stopping + enhance the server capabilities and numbers should, hopefully very soon, to very short to no queues.