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What exactly is it that people don't like about Aion?

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  • DerrosDerros Member UncommonPosts: 1,216

    That its a WoW clone, that its not enough like wow.

    that they dont like pvp, that it doesnt have enough pvp starting at level 1

    that its to grindy to level, that its to easy to level

    that there are to many people, that there are instances in some places to seperate people

    that losing exp is to harsh a death penalty, that it doesnt have a hardcore enough penalty

    ect ect.

  • Tyvolus5Tyvolus5 Member Posts: 61
    Originally posted by metalhead980

    Originally posted by FastTx

    Originally posted by metalhead980





    Most people are only raving about this game because it's new and looks pretty.


    If NA and Euro players gave F2p games a chance they would see how similar Aion is to them.


    Aion is nothing new.


    I stopped playing my free month after about three days.


    If you like extremely average themeparks, Aion is great. For everyone else maybe TOR will be the answer or you could just suffer through Indy sandbox games and hope they become good a year after release.


    As for me with games like DF(6+ months)  and FE (a year+) away from being actual good games I decided to take a break until Dec/january (next Eve Xpac) and have gone back to Open ended Rpgs.
     

     

    Done trollin yet?

    That's trolling? grow a thicker skin dude.

    You must QQ every time someone posts something negative about your game if you consider that trolling.

    guess EVE isnt all you been crackin' it up to be.  Also good to see you havent taken a break from coming to the AION forums and talking about your wife buying you AION some more.  Must have heard that story about how she bought it for you, and you played the game for a few days etc, about 10 times now -- never gets old.

     

  • tanoriltanoril Member Posts: 432

    You'll probably enjoy the game depending on how you approach it.  If you approach it wanting it to be like WoW, it'll feel like that for the first 20 levels and then you're going to be dissapointed.  If you approach it just trying to get to the PvP part, then you'll probably enjoy the ride until level 25.  Like others have said though, I don't see how the repetition of the first 25-30 levels isn't going to cause subscription numbers to drop once people are bored and want to make alts.  There's only so much you can do something over and over again until you just get tired of doing it.

  • roundheadroundhead Member Posts: 48

    Personally, as long as AION is primarily PvP at the later stages of the game, I won't even bother trying it.

    I play games to relax.  World/Zone PvP is not relaxing.  If i'm suddenly forced to go AFK for a minute, or even simply talking to someone else, I don't want to have to worry about dying

  • HyperfishHyperfish Member Posts: 101
    Originally posted by jmccarthy14

    Originally posted by Tisiphone


    The good:
    - The engine is very good, and easy on system resources. Characters are better rendered than terrain, but its still very competitive with other top-list MMOs.

    - Character appearance customization is Oblivion / Fallout-esque.

    - Its a solid game. I see few bugs or typos, and everything -works-. That doesn't mean its awesome or immensely creative, but its not broken. Classes are balanced.

    - They fixed a lot of minor gripes from earlier MMOs. Resting is more effective, controls and quests are more streamlined, etc.

    - They did good things with the healer classes. Its more D&D style Cleric, with heavy armor and melee weapons. So, more people will play them.

    - Flight is pretty fun. You can only fly in certain areas, though... and you get fatigued.

    - There are crafting quests that have you craft things from provided materials, which saves money. Collecting and crafting gives you exp.

    - There are actual dialogue cutscenes with your character. Haven't seen that done right since Guild Wars or FFXI.

    - The armor and appearance options are cool. You can take one armor with the stats you like and combine it with another that you like the look of. You can dye stuff as well. Nobody looks stupid unless they want to.

    - You can teleport between cities for a fee, like Guild Wars or Diablo. Makes playing quicker and easier.

    - There are just barely enough quests to level on them alone, if you do them all. Otherwise, grinding is just as valid.


    The bad:

    - Its really not innovative. Like, at all. Questing and combat systems are nearly identical to EQ2 or WoW. The only change to combat is that moving in various directions affects defense and offense. Really, flight is it.

    - Crafting is incredibly simplistic, but at least they make it easy on you - you can queue things provided by a crafting quest and go AFK. It will be a time sink, still.

    - PvP is pretty much the later levels. And the potential to get ganked in mid-levels is almost always there, due to the rift system. You can only play pure PvE areas up to a point, and then you have to accept the risk of somebody bigger and meaner occasionally popping in on top of you. Of course, later on you can do it back...

    - You lose exp during death, but on the plus side, there's no equipment decay. You can also buy the exp back (for a substantial fee).

    - The voices are -horrible-. Well, I only deal with female characters, but... Maybe somebody will argue this. Its an opinion.

    - The two factions worlds and primary quests are very similar to one another. They take the light vs dark thing pretty seriously.

    - Gameplay is pretty linear - there is a main quest storyline along with side quests. Not sure how this evolves post 25.
    Altogether, its going to keep me occupied for 6 months to a year until something I like more comes out. I recommend it if you're looking for a time killer for a while.

     

    Seems like one of the most unbiased views here.



     

    Indeed, thanks for detailing all that, was looking for a summary like this :)

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.

    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.

    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.

    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.

    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.

    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

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  • vgjunkievgjunkie Member Posts: 5

    I think I'll wait until the new car smell wears off before giving it a try. I think right now you are hard pressed to find too many fanboys (who have a closet full of new car smell air fresheners) or too many people who hate any MMO that doesn't offer them something new.

    I did a few of the betas and it just felt like too much of the typical Korean grind MMO, which is a turn off and some of the more unbiased reviews seem to confirm this, but they do say once you get past the full out pve stuff, the game does get more exciting.

    Any case, I figure I'll give it 30 - 60 days before I decide if I'm going to give it a go, mainly because the last few released MMOs that were "wow killers" have been complete and utter disappointments and if I waited a month or two, would not have bothered wasting my money on the purchase.

  • luffyownzluffyownz Member UncommonPosts: 50

     has too many common things with a shitty game called lineage 2 and as a result it is also a super disguised korean grinder

  • faxnadufaxnadu Member UncommonPosts: 940

     i so love the word " grind " what players farm around like super farmers thesedays.

    everyhting is a grind if you need to one thing twice its grind. or copy of this and that.

    well for the what i dont like Aion like the question is asked from OP

    some people posted em already in here mostly i agree the bads and good bids.

    so far its been fun and enjoyable experience to play thro, let it be said i have only level 20 chars couple so i dont know about 

    it very much but then again first impression is ok to me.

    bad bids ofc there is those you dont excpect some things to be invented as the way ncsoft have done those or you may think why they have done it liek this while they should have been do it like that.

    most negative experience is the quest items , if you party you need to kill monster who drops item twice or howmany times you need depending how many people is in your party. wich means evne tho the channel change is possible it builds people be waiting around the spot where some spesific monster spawns, and its quite normal problem in these kinda games but atleast the quest item should drop to everyone in party via one kill. also later on wich i already dont have experience but i " assume " it could happen that when you kinda adventure alone youd be ganked by some legion party. more than you face solo players in pvp.

    cheers,

     

  • KarbonoidKarbonoid Member Posts: 83
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.
    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.
    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.
    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.
    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.
    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

     

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990

    Tisiphone's post sums the game up rather well and is a fair, balanced review of the game.

    Only thing I can't agree with one way or the other is if this game is going to simply be a time killer for me or something I can stick with on an ongoing basis.  It's too early for me to tell.  I don't think I would be able to make that judgement for myself until I get to a higher level and see fully how PvP is going to play out in this game within the Abyss and everything the game has to offer.

    Either way I think it's worth at least checking out or if you're that skeptical you can always wait for them to offer free trials.  It won't be any time soon but you know eventually they'll have one.

    You're alright Tisi...for an asmo...

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • jmccarthy14jmccarthy14 Member Posts: 42
    Originally posted by Karbonoid
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.
    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.
    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.
    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.
    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.
    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

     

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

     

    Nah.  At that point there will be WoW-in-space, and people who started MMOs with Aion telling people they must hate MMOs if they are tired of the model.  Repeat.

    Playing: DO Trial, EVE 1 Day Buy a PLEX promo.
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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Karbonoid

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.
    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.
    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.
    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.
    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.
    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

     

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

    Yes, because we (the people who like the game) are too simple in the head to make up our own minds.  I am so glad to have all of you scaremongers to fill me in on the errors of my ways.

    It's a Jeep thing. . .
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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Karbonoid

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.
    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.
    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.
    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.
    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.
    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

     

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

    Yes, because we (the people who like the game) are too simple in the head to make up our own minds.  I am so glad to have all of you scaremongers to fill me in on the errors of my ways.



     

    Hey I have no problems with anyone who likes the game. If they like it then that is awesome but those were just my measly 2 cents of thought yanno ? 

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Karbonoid

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

    Yes, because we (the people who like the game) are too simple in the head to make up our own minds.  I am so glad to have all of you scaremongers to fill me in on the errors of my ways.

    Hey I have no problems with anyone who likes the game. If they like it then that is awesome but those were just my measly 2 cents of thought yanno ? 

    They meant for the guy who quoted you Karbonoid.


  • PhesePhese Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by Tutu2


    Considering trying the game...but I'm going to wait a few months at least. So what's not so good about the game? What are its strengths as well?

     

    If you want to try it, do it. Why wait, $50 too much?

    Go see for yourself and hf anyway, not that forum opinions would matter. ;)

     

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Karbonoid

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    1. Same type of combat we been getting for the past 5 years.
    2. Too many fedex quests and nothing is innovative.
    3. Flying is overrated because it has been done in Perfect World International already. In pve you can only fly 10% of the time anyway.
    4. Their version of RVR is nothing more than the concept of dodge ball, zerg  vs zerg battles fail in mmos.
    5. P vP centric mmos fail in NA/EU regions. Not since the old days of DAOC and Ultima Online has their been a good pvp centric mmo that many have enjoyed. Sad but true.
    Aion only has like 400k subs in the NA/EU areas so far. This game is too vanilla and too repetitive for people to stay inerested for the long term. NCsoft's main focus of the game is over in Korea and China, everyone else is an added bonus. I can only see Aion losing subs in NA/EU areas as time passes on.  Aion does have good story, graphics and music but sadly everything else that is more important lacks big time.

     

    This pretty much sums it up, but let the fans enjoy themselves for a while longer, it's only been a week.

    In a month or two there will be a few hundred thousand former Aion players, all ready to hear you say "I told you so".

    Yes, because we (the people who like the game) are too simple in the head to make up our own minds.  I am so glad to have all of you scaremongers to fill me in on the errors of my ways.



     

    Hey I have no problems with anyone who likes the game. If they like it then that is awesome but those were just my measly 2 cents of thought yanno ? 

    Yep, was for the guy that quoted you.  It really burns my ass-hairs when people throw around their elitism.

    It's a Jeep thing. . .
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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by m0lly


    most negative experience is the quest items ,
     



     

    I actually think the most negative experience in this game is gathering aether.  Now that is some shit that bores me to tears.

    Although the drop rate on some quest items is ridiculous such as the Dukaki  amulets unless you're extremely lucky.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • FastTxFastTx Member UncommonPosts: 756
    Originally posted by metalhead980

    Originally posted by FastTx

    Originally posted by metalhead980





    Most people are only raving about this game because it's new and looks pretty.


    If NA and Euro players gave F2p games a chance they would see how similar Aion is to them.


    Aion is nothing new.


    I stopped playing my free month after about three days.


    If you like extremely average themeparks, Aion is great. For everyone else maybe TOR will be the answer or you could just suffer through Indy sandbox games and hope they become good a year after release.


    As for me with games like DF(6+ months)  and FE (a year+) away from being actual good games I decided to take a break until Dec/january (next Eve Xpac) and have gone back to Open ended Rpgs.
     

     

    Done trollin yet?

    That's trolling? grow a thicker skin dude.

    You must QQ every time someone posts something negative about your game if you consider that trolling.

     

    It's trollin when you come to the Aion forums everyday for 2 months and complain about it. We get it already, you don't like the game. Im surprised you actually got it but ahh, I remember now your wife bought you the game so you played it! I honestly like reading bad reviews about the game, it allows me to see outside of a narrow vision about a game. However it gets tiresome when half the time it's you repeatedly bash a game because you didn't enjoy it.

  • ScyrisScyris Member UncommonPosts: 149
    Originally posted by grunt187


    as far as voices, ya the eng are horrid but there is a voice pack for kor/jap versions                                                                                               
     
     
    socialnetworkincome.blogspot.com/2009/09/aion-changing-english-voice-pack-to.html

     

    Wish the japanese voice link still worked :(

  • ninja33284ninja33284 Member Posts: 82

    i laugh at people who quit in 3 days. it takes about 4 days to get into the pvp. after that its pretty A+ (if ur into Open world PvP) ya u neeed to "grind" more but u don thave to do it all at once go enjoy ganking some scrubs and the game will be enlighting, any one who quit before reaching the abyss, has probaly NEVER reached cap level in any gay ever. (not talking about consol games only MMO`s) i am one who has never reached cap level, but ive always been like 1-10 levels away from cap before i get bored, in WoW i got to 58 during the 60s cap, then 70 cap came i got to 64 and then 80 cap came and i got to 73 , all the time taking breaks inbetween, in a game called DOMO, i got my Muse to 56 (cap of 60) before quiting, so its not true for every one, any way i digress, if ur gonna play a game, gotta give some time,

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