I enjoy roleplaying as much as the next guy but unless my daughter wanted me to play this with her there is no chance I'll be playing a game like this, it could though be a highly marketable strategy but it would be way too easy to feel the beach coming out in me if you know what I mean. Atleast when I play free realms with my kid there are no illusions about what it is with a vampire game that's supposed to be cool the trap would certainly be set.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The problem with a Vampyr MMO is that developers would be tempted to make something similar to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, and that was terrible enough as a single player game.
No offense but this post is pretty laughable to me because from what I know and have haerd across the internet, White Wolf, creators of World of Darkness, the pen and paper vamps vs werewolves game (with humans as well), are intending to make that perticular game into an MMORPG. No offense to you guys but since ya clearly get ya stuff on MMORPG.com's front page ya should learn to do ya homework first before blabbering about something :-P
From what info is publicly available, Funcom seems to make more progress with their "The secret world" than CCP is doing with "World of Darkness". I very much doubt that the World of Darkness is anywhere near an alpha phase, more likely to have some concept art produced at this point and that's it.
Don't assume anything when it comes to CCP. We knew next to nothing about Dust514 a year ago now the game is one year from release.
"Yes master! Your wish is my command!" I ll RP a vampire's assistant for sure. I ll prepare the castle and kidnapp juicy virgins for my master while he sleeps at day. I ll clean the coffins and i will torture any aspiring Vampire hunter who dares to enter my realm.
But instead of this we ll get: "LFM for virgin hunting. No werewolves plz"...
well just to say it since I don't see anyone saying it(if so sorry I don't see it), it have a Vampire MMOalled Darkeden, its a old MMORPG who only have hacker now but it exist.
so Dana, not trying to be a prick but... I guess you should have search a little more, and guys twilight have a rule never mention it :P
Ive heard that people behind mmo EvE is working on a Vampire game. Rumor has it that the theme will be from role playing books Vampire the Requiem and Bloodline ! ! They both are from community White Wolf. I dont know If it`s true but it would be a very cool mmorpg game. I always wanted a mmo "Vampire the Masquerade online"
CCP, the producers of EVE, have bought and are for quite some time now the owners of White Wolf, the makers of the world of darkness line of tabletop RPGs.
Yes Vampire the Masquerade would make a great MMO. 13 different clans and then on top of that you have different groups fighting each other and then the vampire hunters as well, not to mention werewolves...... it could work. I would play it if it was done well.
I'm very upset with how Dana blamed Vlad the Impaler for Twilight. While Vlad may have inspired Dracula, He was a real person who made his way into history by being a merciless warlord who tortured the poeple he conqured inhumanly: "His method of torture was a horse attached to each of the victim's legs as a sharpened stake was gradually forced into the body. The end of the stake was usually oiled, and care was taken that the stake not be too sharp; else the victim might die too rapidly from shock. Normally the stake was inserted into the body through the anus and was often forced through the body until it emerged from the mouth. However, there were many instances where victims were impaled through other bodily orifices or through the abdomen or chest. Infants were sometimes impaled on the stake forced through their mother's chests. The records indicate that victims were sometimes impaled so that they hung upside down on the stake." Yeah, I don't think Stephanie Meyers had that in mind when she thought of Edward. . . . . . .
I realize Vlad was not a nice dude (heck, my education is in European History), but that was... a joke. After 533 years, I think it's OK to poke fun at him.
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Who's in the picture being blamed for Twilight?
I would love a vampire/werewolf MMO. I don't think Vampires or Werewolves are in a decline, They have been around far to long to be considered fads.
Vlad the Impaler. A generally terrible dude and arguably (although as others have said, there are dissenting views) the basis for Bram Stoker's Dracula. Who is, if you follow my attempt at humor's logic train, the reason we have so much modern vampire fiction, which includes Twilight.
Seriously, everyone gets upset at my history joke and no one bats an eye at my hockey joke on Tuesday? :P
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"CCP hf. and White Wolf Publishing, Inc. today announced that the companies have entered into a definitive agreement to merge."
"The merged company will enable CCP to integrate White Wolf's leading expertise in offline gaming development to enhance and create physical products for its MMOG, EVE Online."
"White Wolf will leverage CCP's industry-leading technologies to bring its offline role-playing titles online. Conceptualization and early development has begun to bring White Wolf's World of Darkness, one of the world's strongest gaming properties, into the online world."
"The combined company will continue to operate under their respective names. White Wolf will be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of CCP."
"After the release of Eve Online’s expansion in March, the company will focus on creating another multi-player game based on the popular World of Darkness fictional universes created by White Wolf."
...There ya go. A company press release and a newspaper article confirming development of World of Darkness. And that's about all they've said, though one could infer that serious development didn't get underway until at least March '09 so they're probably wise to keep their mouths shut at this point. I wish more developers would do the same. Suffice to say CCP isn't rumored to be be developing a World of Darkness MMORPG, not only have they officially announced that they where, they frickin' OWN the IP.
Why not indeed. Simple matter is that CCP is currently creating a World of Darkness based MMO which includes the new version of the best pen and paper game of all time, Vampire: The Masquerade (Its current incarnation is Vampire: Requiem). Which means the question is honestly moot, its being done. Hopefully it will be done well with proper avatars instead of like EVE.
No offense but this post is pretty laughable to me because from what I know and have haerd across the internet, White Wolf, creators of World of Darkness, the pen and paper vamps vs werewolves game (with humans as well), are intending to make that perticular game into an MMORPG. No offense to you guys but since ya clearly get ya stuff on MMORPG.com's front page ya should learn to do ya homework first before blabbering about something :-P
From what info is publicly available, Funcom seems to make more progress with their "The secret world" than CCP is doing with "World of Darkness". I very much doubt that the World of Darkness is anywhere near an alpha phase, more likely to have some concept art produced at this point and that's it.
Yes and no.
It is true that not even a website for the game is up yet, but on the other hand...The engine for the game is already being tested. The engine for EvE's walking in stations patch is the same engine they will be using in WoDo. I expect a website to be up when the patch comes out on EvE.
As for when the game comes out? It's been joked that it'll hit gold on Dec 24 2012.
I'm a girl, and I love the Underworld series, but I hate Twilight. Maybe the "Vampires for boys"/"Vampires for girls" pictures aren't totally accurate for some people.. I don't know, just a thought.
I know, and the body of the article says as much. Images usually are just jokes
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There will be a Vampire MMO coming soon. Vampire novels are very populare atm and the game would sell if it was done properly (good vs "evil") with few diffrent classes. Question is - what kinda settings should it be in ?
Originally posted by Dana Vlad the Impaler. A generally terrible dude and arguably (although as others have said, there are dissenting views) the basis for Bram Stoker's Dracula. Who is, if you follow my attempt at humor's logic train, the reason we have so much modern vampire fiction, which includes Twilight. Seriously, everyone gets upset at my history joke and no one bats an eye at my hockey joke on Tuesday? :P
Well the thing is, Vlad/Dracula are still not the basis for modern vampire fiction. That would be Anne Rice's vamps. Even her stuff barely resembles the original vampire mythologies.
Also, I wouldn't come within 10 miles of a game that had "two" versions, one for "story and romance" and one for "killing." Is it really that hard to include both? Also not a fan of "good vs. evil"... no one is pure good or evil, and being given only one choice or the other without a few middle-ground or morally-gray options would be no different from regular MMOs with only one choice.
Oh, and what's with? "(And yes, I do know CCP is doing World of Darkness, but since we have no idea what exactly that game will be like, I'm choosing to ignore it for today!)"
Your actually going to just toss out a key fact that invalidates the discussion in order to make the discussion work?
Oh, and what's with? "(And yes, I do know CCP is doing World of Darkness, but since we have no idea what exactly that game will be like, I'm choosing to ignore it for today!)" Your actually going to just toss out a key fact that invalidates the discussion in order to make the discussion work? Seriously WTF?
Vampire MMOs are still a completely valid discussion. Yes, CCP is making it, but as there is not much we can talk about with specific regards to that game, I figured I'd acknowledge its existence to try and avoid the "CCP is making WOD!" posts, which clearly didn't work.
I don't think the fact that one company is doing it (and one company did one in 1997) invalidates the entire debate. And I'm pretty confident WoD is nowhere near what I outlined in this article.
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Twilight would suck(no pun intended) as an IP for an MMORPG. I'd have to go with Vampire:the Masquerade as my choice. Either that or Anne Rice's version. Of course Underworld would make an interesting game world, but it isn't to far from V:tM so it would probably work just as well.
Oh and your pictures you chose for Vampires for Girls and Vampires for Boys...are you serious? I can see the guys on this forum doing facepalms because Twilight is not all that popular with guys as it is with us females(though do not put me in with the females that like Twilight please - at least not the movies). ^_^
Good idea but please, make it sandbox, player driven economy and good lore and depth.
I wouldn't like to become a linear, level system, instanced dark vampire of the fu**ing hell of the inferno from the abyss of times and blah & doing stupid quests.
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I enjoy roleplaying as much as the next guy but unless my daughter wanted me to play this with her there is no chance I'll be playing a game like this, it could though be a highly marketable strategy but it would be way too easy to feel the beach coming out in me if you know what I mean. Atleast when I play free realms with my kid there are no illusions about what it is with a vampire game that's supposed to be cool the trap would certainly be set.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The problem with a Vampyr MMO is that developers would be tempted to make something similar to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, and that was terrible enough as a single player game.
Terrible? That was pretty amazing as far as I'm concerned. I still remember having enjoyed playing it.
From what info is publicly available, Funcom seems to make more progress with their "The secret world" than CCP is doing with "World of Darkness". I very much doubt that the World of Darkness is anywhere near an alpha phase, more likely to have some concept art produced at this point and that's it.
Don't assume anything when it comes to CCP. We knew next to nothing about Dust514 a year ago now the game is one year from release.
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"Yes master! Your wish is my command!" I ll RP a vampire's assistant for sure. I ll prepare the castle and kidnapp juicy virgins for my master while he sleeps at day. I ll clean the coffins and i will torture any aspiring Vampire hunter who dares to enter my realm.
But instead of this we ll get: "LFM for virgin hunting. No werewolves plz"...
Ive heard that people behind mmo EvE is working on a Vampire game.
Rumor has it that the theme will be from role playing books Vampire the Requiem and Bloodline ! ! They both are from community White Wolf.
I dont know If it`s true but it would be a very cool mmorpg game.
I always wanted a mmo "Vampire the Masquerade online"
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well just to say it since I don't see anyone saying it(if so sorry I don't see it), it have a Vampire MMOalled Darkeden, its a old MMORPG who only have hacker now but it exist.
so Dana, not trying to be a prick but... I guess you should have search a little more, and guys twilight have a rule never mention it :P
CCP, the producers of EVE, have bought and are for quite some time now the owners of White Wolf, the makers of the world of darkness line of tabletop RPGs.
Yes Vampire the Masquerade would make a great MMO. 13 different clans and then on top of that you have different groups fighting each other and then the vampire hunters as well, not to mention werewolves...... it could work. I would play it if it was done well.
I realize Vlad was not a nice dude (heck, my education is in European History), but that was... a joke. After 533 years, I think it's OK to poke fun at him.
Vlad the Impaler. A generally terrible dude and arguably (although as others have said, there are dissenting views) the basis for Bram Stoker's Dracula. Who is, if you follow my attempt at humor's logic train, the reason we have so much modern vampire fiction, which includes Twilight.
Seriously, everyone gets upset at my history joke and no one bats an eye at my hockey joke on Tuesday? :P
Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
www.ccpgames.com/company/merger.asp
"CCP hf. and White Wolf Publishing, Inc. today announced that the companies have entered into a definitive agreement to merge."
"The merged company will enable CCP to integrate White Wolf's leading expertise in offline gaming development to enhance and create physical products for its MMOG, EVE Online."
"White Wolf will leverage CCP's industry-leading technologies to bring its offline role-playing titles online. Conceptualization and early development has begun to bring White Wolf's World of Darkness, one of the world's strongest gaming properties, into the online world."
"The combined company will continue to operate under their respective names. White Wolf will be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of CCP."
www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/12/28/video_games_georgia.html
"After the release of Eve Online’s expansion in March, the company will focus on creating another multi-player game based on the popular World of Darkness fictional universes created by White Wolf."
...There ya go. A company press release and a newspaper article confirming development of World of Darkness. And that's about all they've said, though one could infer that serious development didn't get underway until at least March '09 so they're probably wise to keep their mouths shut at this point. I wish more developers would do the same. Suffice to say CCP isn't rumored to be be developing a World of Darkness MMORPG, not only have they officially announced that they where, they frickin' OWN the IP.
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Underworld may be an interesting spin : Vamps and werewolves and throw in some paramilitary to spicen things up.
Anyway, would this game be 90% at night? Or set in one of the distant North or South Pole for a 24 hr night cycle?
Anyways, a AAA Horror MMO would be a nice change.
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Why not indeed. Simple matter is that CCP is currently creating a World of Darkness based MMO which includes the new version of the best pen and paper game of all time, Vampire: The Masquerade (Its current incarnation is Vampire: Requiem). Which means the question is honestly moot, its being done. Hopefully it will be done well with proper avatars instead of like EVE.
I'm a girl, and I love the Underworld series, but I hate Twilight.
Maybe the "Vampires for boys"/"Vampires for girls" pictures aren't totally accurate for some people..
I don't know, just a thought.
From what info is publicly available, Funcom seems to make more progress with their "The secret world" than CCP is doing with "World of Darkness". I very much doubt that the World of Darkness is anywhere near an alpha phase, more likely to have some concept art produced at this point and that's it.
Yes and no.
It is true that not even a website for the game is up yet, but on the other hand...The engine for the game is already being tested. The engine for EvE's walking in stations patch is the same engine they will be using in WoDo. I expect a website to be up when the patch comes out on EvE.
As for when the game comes out? It's been joked that it'll hit gold on Dec 24 2012.
www.wodonlinenews.net Keeps up with the scraps of info.
A long time ago I played a Vampire MMO called Bloodlust. I don't know if it still exists tho. It wasn't very popular at that time. But I did like it.
I know, and the body of the article says as much. Images usually are just jokes
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Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
There will be a Vampire MMO coming soon. Vampire novels are very populare atm and the game would sell if it was done properly (good vs "evil") with few diffrent classes. Question is - what kinda settings should it be in ?
Well the thing is, Vlad/Dracula are still not the basis for modern vampire fiction. That would be Anne Rice's vamps. Even her stuff barely resembles the original vampire mythologies.
Also, I wouldn't come within 10 miles of a game that had "two" versions, one for "story and romance" and one for "killing." Is it really that hard to include both? Also not a fan of "good vs. evil"... no one is pure good or evil, and being given only one choice or the other without a few middle-ground or morally-gray options would be no different from regular MMOs with only one choice.
Oh, and what's with? "(And yes, I do know CCP is doing World of Darkness, but since we have no idea what exactly that game will be like, I'm choosing to ignore it for today!)"
Your actually going to just toss out a key fact that invalidates the discussion in order to make the discussion work?
Seriously WTF?
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Vampire MMOs are still a completely valid discussion. Yes, CCP is making it, but as there is not much we can talk about with specific regards to that game, I figured I'd acknowledge its existence to try and avoid the "CCP is making WOD!" posts, which clearly didn't work.
I don't think the fact that one company is doing it (and one company did one in 1997) invalidates the entire debate. And I'm pretty confident WoD is nowhere near what I outlined in this article.
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Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
Twilight would suck(no pun intended) as an IP for an MMORPG. I'd have to go with Vampire:the Masquerade as my choice. Either that or Anne Rice's version. Of course Underworld would make an interesting game world, but it isn't to far from V:tM so it would probably work just as well.
Oh and your pictures you chose for Vampires for Girls and Vampires for Boys...are you serious? I can see the guys on this forum doing facepalms because Twilight is not all that popular with guys as it is with us females(though do not put me in with the females that like Twilight please - at least not the movies). ^_^
Mage: The Ascension mmo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck transfering the actual magic system with that one, system thats's effectively entirely free form.
Good idea but please, make it sandbox, player driven economy and good lore and depth.
I wouldn't like to become a linear, level system, instanced dark vampire of the fu**ing hell of the inferno from the abyss of times and blah & doing stupid quests.
It is a question of fangs.