The speculation around the merger of Eve Online developers CCP and Vampire - The Masquerade publisher White Wolf was that CCP was going to do a vampire MMO. The inclusion of ambulation in Eve was thought to be so they could test out the graphics engine for the upcoming MMO. Now, a year or two later, ambulation still hasn't made it into Eve and you don't hear anything about a vampire MMO from CCP.
I am all for something other than a Tolkienesque/D&D based MMO. Been there done that... well... still doing that.
EDIT: Actually it was nearly three years ago when there was talk about CCP starting a vampire MMO.
"Conceptualization and early development has begun to bring White Wolf's World of Darkness, one of the world's strongest gaming properties, into the online world." -- http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?articleid=629
I've been wanting to see an MMORPG based on the Underworld movies for quite some time... Rather that, than say Twilight, which I haven't read or seen, nor do I think I ever will.....
If it would have good faction based PvP it HAS to be 3 factions. 2 doesn't work.
Meh. I'm not at all convinced that you need 3 or more factions. You just need the right systems in place in the game.
It would be nice at least to have the factions broken up some with different sects and stuff. Having only two factions makes for very little politics. Some may not care for that, but I think it could make a more interesting community.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
If they picked the right vampire mmo then I think it could be very fun. For example Vampire the Masquerade would be a great source to pull from if you did a vampireish MMO. Yet there is so much vampire stuff out there that given vampire stuff a bad name that is can easily become a huge dud.
Good idea but please, make it sandbox, player driven economy and good lore and depth. I wouldn't like to become a linear, level system, instanced dark vampire of the fu**ing hell of the inferno from the abyss of times and blah & doing stupid quests.
I agree. The developers or GMs would have to take an active role in fostering such a community to make it work. Otherwise it will just become WoW with fangs.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Changelings (think of all the fairy tales not related to the previous types and lump them together)
I haven't read the one on psychics, but all the other ones have clan/tribes/faction and plenty of in fighting plus fighting between types.
I Hope World of Darkness starts out with vampires, werewolves, and mages since they are the most popular, and concentrate on content, then add in the others as expansions with their own content later. I'm for three realm type+ pvp because it has better power struggle vs just 2 where one side more often than not has higher population and permanently stays on top on the server.
The speculation around the merger of Eve Online developers CCP and Vampire - The Masquerade publisher White Wolf was that CCP was going to do a vampire MMO. The inclusion of ambulation in Eve was thought to be so they could test out the graphics engine for the upcoming MMO. Now, a year or two later, ambulation still hasn't made it into Eve and you don't hear anything about a vampire MMO from CCP. I am all for something other than a Tolkienesque/D&D based MMO. Been there done that... well... still doing that. EDIT: Actually it was nearly three years ago when there was talk about CCP starting a vampire MMO. "Conceptualization and early development has begun to bring White Wolf's World of Darkness, one of the world's strongest gaming properties, into the online world." -- http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?articleid=629
So I suppose you'd rather they'd have spent those years pre-maturely running their mouth ala Darkfall? Actually it was Dana Massey who posted an article about making that mistake just recently.
i've been waiting for a game to come out with this genre for a long time. White Wolf would be a good company to look at for ideas on how to design the game around Vampire the masquerade. But I would rather it be much like the idea of Underworld type atmosphere. That way you and have different clans of vampires vs. werewolves.
It has core books for : Vampires Werewolves Hunters Psychics Mages Changelings (think of all the fairy tales not related to the previous types and lump them together) You forgot Wraith I haven't read the one on psychics, but all the other ones have clan/tribes/faction and plenty of in fighting plus fighting between types.
I Hope World of Darkness starts out with vampires, werewolves, and mages since they are the most popular, and concentrate on content, then add in the others as expansions with their own content later. I'm for three realm type+ pvp because it has better power struggle vs just 2 where one side more often than not has higher population and permanently stays on top on the server.
Vampires, Werewolves, and Hunters would be a good start. Mages would take forever to work out right... the Paradox system would be awkward and never be balanced (though it'd be funny if the character abused the Time sphere and Wrinkle himself erased the character from the server as if it never existed lol!) If they did get it to work though, I'd love to be a part of Iteration-X, but any part of the Technocracy would be just fine.
Wraith or Changeling... Changeling could be worked in, but wraith would need a special touch to function with the rest.
All in all you could have one hell of a world... but lore would be a must, and time to do it right... I honestly don't think there's a big enough "Sandbox" out there to fit it all in.
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
If you are thinking about Masquerade as a MMO do remember that MMO’s can end up changing huge areas of the dynamic and rules of an IP. Take Star Treks’s no guild staffed star ship decision, it is Star Trek Jim, but not as we know it.
Same for a Masquerade MMO, who knows what would get changed or dropped to fit a MMO game design?
Keep in mind that, if WoD MMO ends up focused on vampires it's gonna be Requiem, not now dead and buried (pun time) Masquerade... which is a good thing in it's own right, mainly because CCP will be free of huge metaplot burden that was present in oWoD and it'll essentially give them free reign to craft their own version of WoD world.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
The thing People who crow about 3 factions forget is that whilst the expectation is for the 2 weaker sides to team up & beat on the strongest what often happens is the 2 strongest team up to beat on the weakest, I saw this happen in DAoC quite a bit & being on the recieving end of that for too long forced many to just quit.
So 3 factions can be a blessing or a curse, I'd rather there were multi factions with some background story every so often encouraging some alliance, & some checks and balances, like some npc factions perhaps or npc "heroes" that join up with the weakest side to help them out when needed.
With that offtopic aside, I think the WoD is a great starting place for a MMO at least from a lore & factions starting place, but I also really enjoyed the lore surrounding the Legacy of Kain series.
I would love to see the game build its "zones" as "timezones", so you would be in the early middle ages for the starter zones & as you developed you would then move into zones of a later time, with the later zones being set in early 1900s & then as the game expanded it would add more in. But the "time curve" would be a bit higher as the game grew, so the first set of zones would be set in the 1000 -1500 era, the next in the 1500 -1750 era, then the 1750 - 1875, 1875 - 1925, 1925 - 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010 wherupon it expands into a global game and new zones add new cities, etc. Or something like that anyway.
I would love to see various factions of Humans, Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies, Demons etc though there could be something like 3 "arch factions" to which these could belong, Where you have alliances of good humans, good vamps good werewolves....but there could be splinter factions of for example Puritannical humans that will not ally with the "filth" of the other factions & seek to cleanse them from the globe.
The game would have PvE core with some PvP & the PvP would centre around instanced battlegrounds but these battlegrounds would be say a set of 10 from a possible 100+ around the "world" & every so many weeks the "battlegrounds" would shift to different areas.
But yeah I would love to see a well done Vampiric-MMO.
P.S. Fix the freaking forum so I can use apostrophes in IE8 already ffs.
I wouldn't play a MMO that was just dedicated to vampires but I would play a MMO that implemented vampires into its lore system, make vampire a race that you could pick in game & give that race a nice back drop & features to enhance the feel of being a vampire. Then you could work with that by giving human a class to pick from like vampire hunter or a class that allows transformation into a were-wolf, but a vampire only mmo would be kinda boring.
I would adore a good vampire MMO. Although make it a bit of a fight between vampires, lycans, and other evils. Nothing buffy like, but something more like Hellsing or Underworld.
Personally, I like the idea of the vampire mmo. But I'd like to see it from a different angle. I'd like to see more options available on parts to play. I love the idea of playing a beautiful girl who encounters a dangerous, yet strangely hypnotic "bad" guy. I've actually searched for this very thing prior to reading this article. Guys love to conquer and live it out through mmo's. Why not a game that appeals to woman's love of romance.
I suppose a little niche mmo catering to a woman's self destructive attraction to the idea of a 'bad boy' could be rather quaint however i think a different approach could do well. By this i of course mean the old pnp series Vampire the Masquerade. Still, i've no idea how you would begin to keep the flavor and turn it mmo at the same time...
pretty tired of reading these "Why nots" got anything else to write about? i got more why nots than you.
I know you're trying to troll, but honestly, I agree. This was pretty close to the bottom of my "why not" barrel for now
...I'm likely going to adopt a new premise in the coming weeks.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Considering how badly the gaming community seems to hate every new MMO that comes out. And considering how many people these days say they want to play an MMO but really just want a solo game with a chat room. How about you contemplate the future of MMOs in general. You could title it "Why Bother".
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
In this week's column, Dana Massey explores a genre that might well finally solve an age old problem for game developers. How do you get guys and girls in the same game? The answer? Vampires! There is one genre out there that is relatively untested by MMOs and even games in general. It’s popular, one of the hottest sub-genres out there right now in fact, and perfectly suited to gaming. It also appeals to both men and women, albeit in different ways. So today, I ask you: Why not a Vampire MMO? MMOs have always been a bit of an old boys club. Sure, women do play them, but no game has come even close to an even split. It could simply be that women don’t like video games, but if anyone can overcome that and make a game that both men and women enjoy equally, they’re going to be a very rich company.
You need to keep up with the times. World of Darkness is already making a Vampire MMO. How do you not know this? It will be the new Vampire (Requiem) . There are also rumors of a Twilight MMO. I bet vampires will have the sparkle ability. Also the thing about getting the female vampire fan? Won't happen unless the game has a big emphasis on story and most MMOs don't. It's just about kill this person, level up and get gold and loot. So unless other MMOs follow Biowares idea of the 4th pillar I can't see a Vampire MMO attracting the female vampire fan.
I'd play an MMORPG based on the p&p rpg V:TM. Would have one big problem though: expectations. V:TM has been there for dozens of years, has lots of fans and tons and tons of background and stories and lore and whatnot. I don't know how an MMORPG could pick up all that and then not disappoint. In theory though... it would be great. The intrigues... games with might and power... the hunt for blood, the clans and stuff with their abilities and whatnot. Practically though, I doubt that there is a company out there who would have the patience and knowledge to successfully create an mmorpg about that without disappointing. I mean, creating an mmorpg about v:tm that does not disappoint... it's about as possible as writing the complete history of egypt onto your fingertip. Or if someone would try to wrap up the contents of all star-trek episodes within 3 words.
I would more likely play an MMO based on VtM rather than VtR. The Original World of Darkness was much more Fun.
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The speculation around the merger of Eve Online developers CCP and Vampire - The Masquerade publisher White Wolf was that CCP was going to do a vampire MMO. The inclusion of ambulation in Eve was thought to be so they could test out the graphics engine for the upcoming MMO. Now, a year or two later, ambulation still hasn't made it into Eve and you don't hear anything about a vampire MMO from CCP.
I am all for something other than a Tolkienesque/D&D based MMO. Been there done that... well... still doing that.
EDIT: Actually it was nearly three years ago when there was talk about CCP starting a vampire MMO.
"Conceptualization and early development has begun to bring White Wolf's World of Darkness, one of the world's strongest gaming properties, into the online world." -- http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?articleid=629
I've been wanting to see an MMORPG based on the Underworld movies for quite some time... Rather that, than say Twilight, which I haven't read or seen, nor do I think I ever will.....
Meh. I'm not at all convinced that you need 3 or more factions. You just need the right systems in place in the game.
It would be nice at least to have the factions broken up some with different sects and stuff. Having only two factions makes for very little politics. Some may not care for that, but I think it could make a more interesting community.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
If they picked the right vampire mmo then I think it could be very fun. For example Vampire the Masquerade would be a great source to pull from if you did a vampireish MMO. Yet there is so much vampire stuff out there that given vampire stuff a bad name that is can easily become a huge dud.
I agree. The developers or GMs would have to take an active role in fostering such a community to make it work. Otherwise it will just become WoW with fangs.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
World of Darkness is a rather vast IP.
It has core books for :
Vampires
Werewolves
Hunters
Psychics
Mages
Changelings (think of all the fairy tales not related to the previous types and lump them together)
I haven't read the one on psychics, but all the other ones have clan/tribes/faction and plenty of in fighting plus fighting between types.
I Hope World of Darkness starts out with vampires, werewolves, and mages since they are the most popular, and concentrate on content, then add in the others as expansions with their own content later. I'm for three realm type+ pvp because it has better power struggle vs just 2 where one side more often than not has higher population and permanently stays on top on the server.
So I suppose you'd rather they'd have spent those years pre-maturely running their mouth ala Darkfall? Actually it was Dana Massey who posted an article about making that mistake just recently.
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The WoDmmo would be nice, but would be the deathknell ot their LARP club... its been hit hard by the non vamp based MMOs as it is...
Why live action when you can sit at home and "really" play your character.... skuttlebutt is 2yrs out..
NO!
The entire vampire genre (games, movies, books, TV, freaking anything) needs to go away.
Ugh...so overdone, overrated, overhyped.
i've been waiting for a game to come out with this genre for a long time. White Wolf would be a good company to look at for ideas on how to design the game around Vampire the masquerade. But I would rather it be much like the idea of Underworld type atmosphere. That way you and have different clans of vampires vs. werewolves.
i'm all for it...
Isn't CCP working with White Wolf to do a Vampire MMO?
sorry to lazy to check the other 116 posts
I'm sure you would get a decent amount of girls involved in a Vamp MMO.
But as an old time pen & paper World of Darkness player I react this way "Vampire, Werewolves, Mages OH MY.... YAWN
10 years ago the genre was sweet now it's just DULL, at least for me anyway.
Asheron's Call, Champions Online, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, EverQuest, Lineage 2, Star Wars Galaxies and World of Warcraft.Waiting for SWTOR
This. I'll be a hunter, ty. I'd love to PvP a bunch of "emo /wrist vamps" online in all their hot topic gothiness.
It'd give a whole new meaning to "corpse camping" wouldn't it? lol
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
Vampires, Werewolves, and Hunters would be a good start. Mages would take forever to work out right... the Paradox system would be awkward and never be balanced (though it'd be funny if the character abused the Time sphere and Wrinkle himself erased the character from the server as if it never existed lol!) If they did get it to work though, I'd love to be a part of Iteration-X, but any part of the Technocracy would be just fine.
Wraith or Changeling... Changeling could be worked in, but wraith would need a special touch to function with the rest.
All in all you could have one hell of a world... but lore would be a must, and time to do it right... I honestly don't think there's a big enough "Sandbox" out there to fit it all in.
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
If you are thinking about Masquerade as a MMO do remember that MMO’s can end up changing huge areas of the dynamic and rules of an IP. Take Star Treks’s no guild staffed star ship decision, it is Star Trek Jim, but not as we know it.
Same for a Masquerade MMO, who knows what would get changed or dropped to fit a MMO game design?
Keep in mind that, if WoD MMO ends up focused on vampires it's gonna be Requiem, not now dead and buried (pun time) Masquerade... which is a good thing in it's own right, mainly because CCP will be free of huge metaplot burden that was present in oWoD and it'll essentially give them free reign to craft their own version of WoD world.
The thing People who crow about 3 factions forget is that whilst the expectation is for the 2 weaker sides to team up & beat on the strongest what often happens is the 2 strongest team up to beat on the weakest, I saw this happen in DAoC quite a bit & being on the recieving end of that for too long forced many to just quit.
So 3 factions can be a blessing or a curse, I'd rather there were multi factions with some background story every so often encouraging some alliance, & some checks and balances, like some npc factions perhaps or npc "heroes" that join up with the weakest side to help them out when needed.
With that offtopic aside, I think the WoD is a great starting place for a MMO at least from a lore & factions starting place, but I also really enjoyed the lore surrounding the Legacy of Kain series.
I would love to see the game build its "zones" as "timezones", so you would be in the early middle ages for the starter zones & as you developed you would then move into zones of a later time, with the later zones being set in early 1900s & then as the game expanded it would add more in. But the "time curve" would be a bit higher as the game grew, so the first set of zones would be set in the 1000 -1500 era, the next in the 1500 -1750 era, then the 1750 - 1875, 1875 - 1925, 1925 - 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010 wherupon it expands into a global game and new zones add new cities, etc. Or something like that anyway.
I would love to see various factions of Humans, Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies, Demons etc though there could be something like 3 "arch factions" to which these could belong, Where you have alliances of good humans, good vamps good werewolves....but there could be splinter factions of for example Puritannical humans that will not ally with the "filth" of the other factions & seek to cleanse them from the globe.
The game would have PvE core with some PvP & the PvP would centre around instanced battlegrounds but these battlegrounds would be say a set of 10 from a possible 100+ around the "world" & every so many weeks the "battlegrounds" would shift to different areas.
But yeah I would love to see a well done Vampiric-MMO.
P.S. Fix the freaking forum so I can use apostrophes in IE8 already ffs.
I wouldn't play a MMO that was just dedicated to vampires but I would play a MMO that implemented vampires into its lore system, make vampire a race that you could pick in game & give that race a nice back drop & features to enhance the feel of being a vampire. Then you could work with that by giving human a class to pick from like vampire hunter or a class that allows transformation into a were-wolf, but a vampire only mmo would be kinda boring.
Wow, I didn't think a writer could be that stupid. There is a vampire MMO.
Its called Dark Eden.
Correct yourself, There is no SUCCESSFUL vampire MMO.
I would adore a good vampire MMO. Although make it a bit of a fight between vampires, lycans, and other evils. Nothing buffy like, but something more like Hellsing or Underworld.
Personally, I like the idea of the vampire mmo. But I'd like to see it from a different angle. I'd like to see more options available on parts to play. I love the idea of playing a beautiful girl who encounters a dangerous, yet strangely hypnotic "bad" guy. I've actually searched for this very thing prior to reading this article. Guys love to conquer and live it out through mmo's. Why not a game that appeals to woman's love of romance.
*shrug*
Smiv
I suppose a little niche mmo catering to a woman's self destructive attraction to the idea of a 'bad boy' could be rather quaint however i think a different approach could do well. By this i of course mean the old pnp series Vampire the Masquerade. Still, i've no idea how you would begin to keep the flavor and turn it mmo at the same time...
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I know you're trying to troll, but honestly, I agree. This was pretty close to the bottom of my "why not" barrel for now
...I'm likely going to adopt a new premise in the coming weeks.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Considering how badly the gaming community seems to hate every new MMO that comes out. And considering how many people these days say they want to play an MMO but really just want a solo game with a chat room. How about you contemplate the future of MMOs in general. You could title it "Why Bother".
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Read it all here.
You need to keep up with the times. World of Darkness is already making a Vampire MMO. How do you not know this? It will be the new Vampire (Requiem) . There are also rumors of a Twilight MMO. I bet vampires will have the sparkle ability. Also the thing about getting the female vampire fan? Won't happen unless the game has a big emphasis on story and most MMOs don't. It's just about kill this person, level up and get gold and loot. So unless other MMOs follow Biowares idea of the 4th pillar I can't see a Vampire MMO attracting the female vampire fan.
I would more likely play an MMO based on VtM rather than VtR. The Original World of Darkness was much more Fun.