I noticed a big dropoff durring the morning hours after the christmas break, they need to make this game cheaper and more readily available to housewives and people on welfare so they can play with me
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Originally posted by Prefect Originally posted by En1GmaOriginally posted by hassan2002NO PVP??? LOL riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...go play the game with no pvp LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!There i s a high market for non pvp games. It isn't an unknown idea. It's usually people arguing that there is a market for PVP games. I guess with the uber success of WoW and the success of their PVP servers people are beginning to change their mind about PVP. Because of the success of EQlive most games released since have been carbon copy PVE games, and left us PVPers with nothing worth playing. Perhaps now, designers will notice the popularity of PVP in an MMORPG and finally make something worthwhile to play. A game, no, a world with freedom where the laws are created by the people, instead of invisible barriers inputted by game designers.
Lack of P vs P is NOT the reason EQ2 is failing. Silly, linear, RPG-like game world design is the primary reason. There is no wonder of the world or fun in exploring; it's start at Isle of Refuge, go to Qeynos, Antonica, Thundering Steppes, etc... The game design focused too much on controlling the players and not enough on giving them the freedom to immerse themselves in-game.
Whether they had gotten the game design right or wrong, all P vs P would have done was drive more folks away. Now don't get me wrong; there is an overly vocal P vs P crowd, but the bulk of P vs E players do NOT like P vs P and outnumber them considerably.
I can tell by your first post that you already didn't like EQ2. It didn't seem like the post was about seeing if you wanted to buy it at all. Oh and your comment about not wanting to buy the game because of people's posts in this thread is retarded. I don't think anyone should not play a game because of a post on the internet. If I listened to all the posts on the internet I think the doctors would pronounce me brain dead.
If you haven't seen it or tried it then don't knock it. The reasons I don't play WoW are legit...not just because of what I saw at my local store.
You can read that "analisys" if you want, then go try EQ2 for a week and WoW for a day. Unless you are violently retarded, you will acknowledge WoW as the better game.
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You guys know why there are so many games?...Because different peeps wants to play different games! This means ...the guy who play lineage..or ..i dont know what game and dont wanna play EQ or WOW is super retarded? And ,ofcourse ,i will say everytime , the game i play is the best..cause thats the reason i play it...!Both games EQ and WOW are goos and i'm sure none of us wants a game to dominate the mmo market, we still need competition! If this conclusion makes me super, ultra retarded, it's ok i'll accept it!
Originally posted by admriker444 Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by diegofrgc I know why.I read that SOE was hoping to get 1.5 million people playing EQ2. Because of it, every EB Games/ Gamestop is flooded with EQ2 copies.Never read that but if its so then they have a sucky analyst. First,it came up numerous times on the beta forum and Q&A about the high specs that virtually did not let mainstream cards to run at all and very high specs. They kept on saying they expected this to lock out a lot of players but defended it that as people upgrade their systems more will come in and they can keep boosting their engine for those with high end specs machine to keep the game looking upt o date. Second,EQ series is virtually unknown outside the mmorpg scene .I know a few people who love RPG but have never played a mmorpg and only one has ever heard of EQ. Thirdly,they need the asian market to hit anything like 1.5m.Take lineage2 generally rebelled by NA/Europe yet it has 1.5m. Fiurthly,the decision to not add pvp .That alienates pvpers. If you look at the mmorpg that have surpassed the million mark there are all from Asia sales -Lineage at 2.5m,L2 at 1.5m ,FFXI at about 1m. So if you wanna hit the Asia market it has to be with a)a popular brand name Asian players know b)a mmorpg that fits their style of play. So why they expected 1.5m I dunno. I think the 310k paying acocunts is quite descent considering this factors
Wow, Hercules I lost what little respect I have for you after this post. First of all, you are dead wrong. EQ is NOT an unknown entity. Recall a major magazine, Time had a cover story on "evercrack" plus numerous newspaper reports on the phenomena around the same time. And its not 310k paying accounts, its 310k units that sold. And I guarantee you half of those units bought are not paying an extra $15 a month once they found out how sucky EQ2 was. Face it EQ2 is a complete failure. Yes SOE had their hopes up. There was even an article in a mag (game informer i believe) where they said they had their fingers crossed hoping for a big hit. Well with probably 150-200k payin customers compared to WoW 500k+ it is a failure. SOE couldnt make a decent game if GOD helped them cause they mismanage everything.
complete failure??? <chuckles> I love the dramatics here. Ah yes, a complete failure, ofcourse, that would explain all the people i see in it and the firm annoucement on the expansion pace. Give me a break with whats dieing, dead, a failure, a hit, and every other cheesy off the cuff prediction you can drum up, Until you are sitting at the Sony's marketting team's desk looking at the numbers. Quite frankly you don't have a dam clue.
Nice post Herc, I think its right on base.
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Originally posted by Wickes Time to cash your chips in Herc ... Admriker lost respect for you. I can imagine the pain. He's an idiot ... why do you guys continue to respond to him.
Herc is probably nibbling the barrel of his revolver right now wondering what is left to live for.
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Originally posted by pirrg All they had to do was write Summay |World of Warcraft | Everquest 2 | Fun? | Yes. | No. |
You can read that "analisys" if you want, then go try EQ2 for a week and WoW for a day. Unless you are violently retarded, you will acknowledge WoW as the better game.
I don't know how anyone can make a comparison. I mean WoW's servers are never up long enough for anyone to play the game for any length of time to accurately say what it's like.
Originally posted by pirrg All they had to do was write Summay |World of Warcraft | Everquest 2 | Fun? | Yes. | No. |
You can read that "analisys" if you want, then go try EQ2 for a week and WoW for a day. Unless you are violently retarded, you will acknowledge WoW as the better game.
I don't know how anyone can make a comparison. I mean WoW's servers are never up long enough for anyone to play the game for any length of time to accurately say what it's like.
I actually agree here, they have some real issues with servers and downtime.
Said that, I still believe they made by far the best MMORPG ever and having a good and stable service/network doesn't make a MMORPG better IMHO. I think game and service are different things, done by different ppl/groups.
Wow migth actually be the better game, having played eq2 a lot and wow only a little im not sure this allows me to make a fair judgement, but anyhow.
If they were both offline games I would prolly stick with wow, but it isnt and so I wont.
Cause?
Wow seems to be populated by juvenile idiots who could not tell their ass from a hole in the ground, I am sure I can find mature and intelligent players in wow as well but evidence seems to suggest they all went for eq2 or did not jump on the eq2/wow hype wagon at all.
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lets just give it a rest......who knows y EQ2 is a big failure, and farnkly who cares? let the small group thats playing EQ2 play and be happy with them self, ( Untill Sony puls the plug on it ) .... and who knows why WoW is such a big ass success....no one knows, and u guys talking about it wont chang anything .... But my only advice to u Eq2 players is....GET SOME BALLZ I DONT BE AFFRAID OF PVP!!!!
Originally posted by hassan2002 lets just give it a rest......who knows y EQ2 is a big failure, and farnkly who cares? let the small group thats playing EQ2 play and be happy with them self, ( Untill Sony puls the plug on it ) .... and who knows why WoW is such a big ass success....no one knows, and u guys talking about it wont chang anything .... But my only advice to u Eq2 players is....GET SOME BALLZ I DONT BE AFFRAID OF PVP!!!!
"GET SOME BALLZ I DONT BE AFRAID OF PVP". Wow. I think that's the only sentence you'll ever need to read to see the intelligence of hassan. I almost puked when I read that.
Saigon note that many of this new trolls are new accounts rarely used.I think its same trolls who have suddenly gone quiet using a different account so that their precious better rated ones don't get banned .
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I noticed a big dropoff durring the morning hours after the christmas break, they need to make this game cheaper and more readily available to housewives and people on welfare so they can play with me
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Lack of P vs P is NOT the reason EQ2 is failing. Silly, linear, RPG-like game world design is the primary reason. There is no wonder of the world or fun in exploring; it's start at Isle of Refuge, go to Qeynos, Antonica, Thundering Steppes, etc... The game design focused too much on controlling the players and not enough on giving them the freedom to immerse themselves in-game.
Whether they had gotten the game design right or wrong, all P vs P would have done was drive more folks away. Now don't get me wrong; there is an overly vocal P vs P crowd, but the bulk of P vs E players do NOT like P vs P and outnumber them considerably.
I can tell by your first post that you already didn't like EQ2. It didn't seem like the post was about seeing if you wanted to buy it at all. Oh and your comment about not wanting to buy the game because of people's posts in this thread is retarded. I don't think anyone should not play a game because of a post on the internet. If I listened to all the posts on the internet I think the doctors would pronounce me brain dead.
If you haven't seen it or tried it then don't knock it. The reasons I don't play WoW are legit...not just because of what I saw at my local store.
Guys...Guys...Guys...
I was bored and found a EQ2/WoW Analysis. http://users.adelphia.net/~wally3782/EQ2vsWoW.htm
Well like many comparision and reviews its biased.Notice how it brought out the things EQ2 has and WoW does not have lol.
Usually its the direct opposite from B net fans making " analysis".
All they had to do was write
Summay |World of Warcraft | Everquest 2 |
Fun? | Yes. | No. |
You can read that "analisys" if you want, then go try EQ2 for a week and WoW for a day. Unless you are violently retarded, you will acknowledge WoW as the better game.
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So anyone who disagrees with you is "violently retarded"? Welcome to pirrgs Nazi land everyone.
Absolutely not, anyone that thinks eq2 is "fun" is violently retarded. If you disagree with me, you are simply wrong, not retarded.
rawr
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Thanks for proving my point.
Absolutely not, anyone that thinks eq2 is "fun" is violently retarded. If you disagree with me, you are simply wrong, not retarded.
rawr
And right there is perfect example of why I am happy to play EQ2 and avoid WoW like the plague. Ignorant wow fanboys!
If you don't like EQ2 why are you trolling the forums for the game? Lack of friends, lack of a life or just waiting for the server queue on wow?
I think they're both good games. It's all about respecting each others opinion.
Absolutely not, anyone that thinks eq2 is "fun" is violently retarded. If you disagree with me, you are simply wrong, not retarded.
rawr
Ladies and gentlemen,I present to you idiot number 5 ,pirrg!
Nice post Herc, I think its right on base.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Herc is probably nibbling the barrel of his revolver right now wondering what is left to live for.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
admriker44 hates me even more for putting a link up
I actually agree here, they have some real issues with servers and downtime.
Said that, I still believe they made by far the best MMORPG ever and having a good and stable service/network doesn't make a MMORPG better IMHO. I think game and service are different things, done by different ppl/groups.
Wow migth actually be the better game, having played eq2 a lot and wow only a little im not sure this allows me to make a fair judgement, but anyhow.
If they were both offline games I would prolly stick with wow, but it isnt and so I wont.
Cause?
Wow seems to be populated by juvenile idiots who could not tell their ass from a hole in the ground, I am sure I can find mature and intelligent players in wow as well but evidence seems to suggest they all went for eq2 or did not jump on the eq2/wow hype wagon at all.
Just a casual observation.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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lets just give it a rest......who knows y EQ2 is a big failure, and farnkly who cares? let the small group thats playing EQ2 play and be happy with them self, ( Untill Sony puls the plug on it
) .... and who knows why WoW is such a big ass success....no one knows, and u guys talking about it wont chang anything .... But my only advice to u Eq2 players is....GET SOME BALLZ I DONT BE AFFRAID OF PVP!!!! 
"GET SOME BALLZ I DONT BE AFRAID OF PVP". Wow. I think that's the only sentence you'll ever need to read to see the intelligence of hassan. I almost puked when I read that.
Saigon note that many of this new trolls are new accounts rarely used.I think its same trolls who have suddenly gone quiet using a different account so that their precious better rated ones don't get banned .
That is a good point Hercules. I actually never really thought of that.
Besides they need to have their accounts around for awhile so they can rate EQ2 at all 1's and WoW all 10's.