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  • godzilr1godzilr1 Member UncommonPosts: 550
    Originally posted by coffee


    Computer games are to be enjoyed by all ages accept the pros and cons of this or move on.



     

    seriously i agree with this.  If you can't accept that people suck you shouldn't be online.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,963
    Originally posted by coffee


    Well the OP is 57.. how mature do you want the players? I dont want to play with a bunch of AOP who have to take a break every 5 mins due to their arthritis or becuase their nurse needs to spong bath them.
    jk
    Most of the time "mature" players are just out of their time, im 29 and have never had an issue with the WoW community, some people just have no sense of humor dont know what irony, cant understand sarcasum and are easily provoked.
    I have more issues with the FPS community, I've lost count of the amount of times I've play L4D and had to endure the countless racist comments about Louis, the "look I'm tongueing/raping Zoe" and the countless "nooobs" spam.
    Computer games are to be enjoyed by all ages accept the pros and cons of this or move on.



     

    I think it's important to note that there are different senses of humor and to catagorically state that if one doesn't like low, base, toilet humor then they don't have a sense of humor seems to me to be a bit one sided.

    Also, for something to come across as ironic it has to actually be ironic. Or satirical. Too often have I seen people say something in game or on a forum and then come across with the statement "it was a joke, get a sense of humor". My thought to that is always "be a better writer and convey the irony or satire and I will at least admit it as such". Just because someone says it was a joke doesn't mean that they have any clue how to be funny and ride that edge between humor and bad taste.

    Also, there is a difference between a mature 15 year old a mature 30 year old.

    I have met some extremely precocious, mature children. But they were still children.

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  • dmiasekdmiasek Member Posts: 34

    I think an adult only server would be a great idea. Now I don't think this would solve all problems (as documented elsewhere, adults are perfectly capable of being rude, obnoxious, and immature), but I do think it would help.

    As a brief business case, in order to access the 18+ servers you'd need to upgrade your account using a third party age verification system. This cost would be covered by a nominal monthly fee (say, $1 a month).

    Note you wouldn't be able to change the rating easily since every country has different laws about what's acceptable at a certain age (and the logistics of having a different rating per server would be annoying), and it wouldn't prevent a parent giving their kid access, but it would help.

    I think people would pay a buck or two extra for the ability to play an adult-only server.

  • gboostergbooster Member UncommonPosts: 712

    I have found that the RP PVE servers are the best and you will find the best community on there, I would suggest rolling on one of those servers.  Moonguard has a decent community, or did back when I still played WoW.  All of the pvp servers are flooded with rude racist teenagers it seems.

  • MalifissMalifiss Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by ghettobooste


    I have found that the RP PVE servers are the best and you will find the best community on there, I would suggest rolling on one of those servers.  Moonguard has a decent community, or did back when I still played WoW.  All of the pvp servers are flooded with rude racist teenagers it seems.



     

    Moonguard went down the toilet, at least horde-side.  It's like 90% blood elf, and of those, the majority are female blood-elf half-vampire/demon illigitimate daughtes of Illidan.  Or they're werecats.   The majority of the sane people left and went to Wyrmrest Accord, which is a decent server now.

    Emerald Dream has a pretty good community, but it's RPPVP. 

  • BelliseBellise Member Posts: 32

    Adult server won't fix anything. You could ask for mature server, but hell, there is no way anyone can check / guarantee you that. Internet anonymity brings out the worst in people, it's not age issue.

    'Most powerful is he who controls his own power.'

  • MithiosMithios Member Posts: 271
    Originally posted by Thenarius


    Oh look, it's this thread again.

    And how do you want to do it? Like that company who restricted female players to females only by webcam checking? I'd rather have some trash talk with "kids" than argue with a 20 years old adult who forces you to spec this, use that then do it like that even if he has no idea what he's talking about and never played the said class properly.

    Just find a proper guild and enjoy the game, of course you'll meet hunters with spellpower gems who will call you a noob if you PUG, that isn't a WoW-only thing, that was in multiplayer games since ever.

    And this immaturity can mean something else every time: in our guild we will probably not randomly gkick each other, but we still joke about random things when we aren't doing progress raiding or serious arena, some of them may sound even harsh for an outsider.



     

    What the **** are you talking about?

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  • majimaji Member UncommonPosts: 2,091

    WoW is targeting at teens. And teens in their puberty are just... well, horrible. That's why the only thing you can do in WoW is find a guild with people around the same age and maturity as yourself and ignore the rest.

    There seems to be lots of differences between the realms and even the countries. Like, I played on several german servers before I quit, but also created a char on an UK server because a friend was playing there. And man... when I first went into a city there I was shocked. So many insults flying through the channels, it seemed that the GMs had given up all hope.

     

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  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

    I think the new lfguild tool will help.  It will let guilds put an age limit on members and allow guilds to enforce themselves a bit better.  So a guild can set base rules, members must be 25+ and mature players.  So people looking for guilds when they see that requirement will know it isn't the guild for them.  Guilds can do this now but they don't have a prefilter like the lf guild tool will provide.

    Course ultimately it's the guild's responsibility to maintain the maturity of their members.  Generally guilds with age limits do work very well for maintaining a mature community.

    Be kinda nice if wow had a player profile that had some sort of rating system.  ie if someone is immature acting players could lower their rating.  Get below the baseline rating and you can't rate people.  You can only give out a rating once per hour or something time base to prevent abuse.  You can only negatively rate people.  People with no complaints will slowly return to a neutral rating.  Maybe the profile would be something any player can inspect. 

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  • tanoriltanoril Member Posts: 432
    Originally posted by ethion


    I think the new lfguild tool will help.  It will let guilds put an age limit on members and allow guilds to enforce themselves a bit better.  So a guild can set base rules, members must be 25+ and mature players.  So people looking for guilds when they see that requirement will know it isn't the guild for them.  Guilds can do this now but they don't have a prefilter like the lf guild tool will provide.
    Course ultimately it's the guild's responsibility to maintain the maturity of their members.  Generally guilds with age limits do work very well for maintaining a mature community.
    Be kinda nice if wow had a player profile that had some sort of rating system.  ie if someone is immature acting players could lower their rating.  Get below the baseline rating and you can't rate people.  You can only give out a rating once per hour or something time base to prevent abuse.  You can only negatively rate people.  People with no complaints will slowly return to a neutral rating.  Maybe the profile would be something any player can inspect. 

     

    What makes you think age will stop immaturity?  You think it's only teenagers that act like an idiot?  You be surprised how many of these people are old enough to be your father/mother.  As far as the profile thing you mentioned, I honestly don't think people care enough to look up such things.  Most guilds invite not because of how mature you are (although there are some) but how well geared you are and how well you can pull your own weight.  At the end of the day it's a game, not a Miss Manners contest.

     

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  • ComnitusComnitus Member Posts: 2,462
    Originally posted by tanoril

    Originally posted by ethion


    I think the new lfguild tool will help.  It will let guilds put an age limit on members and allow guilds to enforce themselves a bit better.  So a guild can set base rules, members must be 25+ and mature players.  So people looking for guilds when they see that requirement will know it isn't the guild for them.  Guilds can do this now but they don't have a prefilter like the lf guild tool will provide.
    Course ultimately it's the guild's responsibility to maintain the maturity of their members.  Generally guilds with age limits do work very well for maintaining a mature community.
    Be kinda nice if wow had a player profile that had some sort of rating system.  ie if someone is immature acting players could lower their rating.  Get below the baseline rating and you can't rate people.  You can only give out a rating once per hour or something time base to prevent abuse.  You can only negatively rate people.  People with no complaints will slowly return to a neutral rating.  Maybe the profile would be something any player can inspect. 

     

    What makes you think age will stop immaturity?  You think it's only teenagers that act like an idiot?  You be surprised how many of these people are old enough to be your father/mother.  As far as the profile thing you mentioned, I honestly don't think people care enough to look up such things.  Most guilds invite not because of how mature you are (although there are some) but how well geared you are and how well you can pull your own weight.  At the end of the day it's a game, not a Miss Manners contest.

     

    Welcome to the internet.

    And suck it up.

    The Internet gives you one thing: anonymity. That means you can act like an idiot all you want (like you can't do in real life) and you're shrouded behind a veil of secrecy. Few people know who you really are; all they know is how you act. That kind of power tempts everybody. Once they figure it out, even "mature adults" can break down and decide they want to have some fun they never can otherwise. So, no, it's NOT AN AGE ISSUE.

    I've met plenty of "kids" who type in coherent sentences and refrain from stupid jokes. I've met plenty of adults who type with 13375P34K and blather on about Chuck Norris, Murlocs and "Anal Kill Shot" in Trade chat.

    As for Guilds, they do look at geared and your skill level, but most (sane) ones won't put up with immature bullcrap. That's a good thing. Even if you're the best player ever, I know my Guild would kick you if you were a loot whore, stuck-up, nedraging all the time, always swore or thought you were cool because you used those lame jokes mentioned above, or gave the Guild a bad rep. My GM loves /gkick; I swear it's like crack for him sometimes.

     

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  • MalifissMalifiss Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by maji


    WoW is targeting at teens. And teens in their puberty are just... well, horrible. That's why the only thing you can do in WoW is find a guild with people around the same age and maturity as yourself and ignore the rest.
    There seems to be lots of differences between the realms and even the countries. Like, I played on several german servers before I quit, but also created a char on an UK server because a friend was playing there. And man... when I first went into a city there I was shocked. So many insults flying through the channels, it seemed that the GMs had given up all hope.
     

    What exactly would lead you to believe that WoW was targeted at teens?  The RTS games came out throughout the late 90s, and most of the pop-culture references are from the 80's.  If you look at Blizzcon footage, most of the people you see look to be early-20s-30s.  Even most of the statistics substantiate this.

    Face it, like it or not, a lot of adults play WoW, and MMOs in general.  There is still a huge social stigma attached to these games, but WoW has done a lot to lessen that, by becoming very mainstream and, while not completely socially accepted, at least tolerated.  Simple fact of the matter is, it's easy to be a douchebag from behind a keyboard, adult and teen alike.  And a lot of said douchebags have a LOT of free time in which to sit for hours (or days) at a time, improving their online persona, in which to elevate themselves above the other douchebags, and give their otherwise empty lives some sort of meaning and purpose. 

    I know many many people in real life that play WoW.  I know a handful of people that play SWG, EQ1 and 2, and the other less-mainstream games.  When divided into two groups...one group is more likely to be divorced or single, introverted, and living alone with their cats in a one-bedroom apartment, writing Star Wars fan fiction while waiting for Highlander reruns to come on.  I'll let you guess which is which. 

  • nate1980nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 2,074

    There'd be no way to enforce an all adult server, but it's a cool idea to dream about.

  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787

    Sorry Mr OP but you have absolutely no way of knowing the ages of any number of players on the WoW servers. How can you possibly tell? A persons mental age isnt governed by how old they are. Anyone can be a dickhead. In fact lots of people remain that way right through to old age. They just never grow up. If you insist on saying that most of the WoW players are kids then you need to.....



    PROVE IT



    This would involve somehow finding out the ages of EVERY single player on a particular server. Then you would KNOW. Good luck with that. Not only are you just guessing at someones age by the way they type but you are also basing your assumption on a tiny fraction of the servers playbase. How many people are on your server and how many of those have you actually played with?

    The really stupid thing is when I see daft posts from people who claim that the community in one game is really bad and yet its really good in another. The irony of it all is that the arseholes you despise in WoW are also the same people you have encountered in other games. The community in LOTRO is much better than WoW? Thats interesting considering that many of its players probably used to and quite possibly still do play WoW. Yeah isnt it amazing how people are free to move between any games they like. It doesnt matter what game you play, you will find immaturity in all of them.

    The only reason WoWs community has a reputation for being immature is because it is HUGE. It has more people playing it than any other mmo. As a result there is a larger proportion of morons in the game. The same rule applies to anything involving the human race. In small groups people can be great but as those groups become larger the overall intelligence of the group tends to diminish. It basicly becomes harder to find decent people in a larger group. They are certainly there. It just means you have to wade through a load of idiots to find them......and unlike in real life you have to do it blind folded. In real life you can walk down the street, see a big group of kids and know that you have no desire to mingle with them. In an MMO you can walk the street and see a big group of holograms. They might be kids or they might be OAPs. Who knows? You can try talking to them but you still wouldnt really know who they are because you cant hear their voices. You can only see the words they type. You can make a guess from that but thats all it will be. Also the games cartoony graphics lead people to falsely believe that more kids play it because of this......which is bollocks of course. Other MMOs are just as child friendly as WoW.

    Anyway why do you need to socialise with every random person you meet in the game and why does it bother you? When I play an MMO I dont give a crap about the other people. If I meet someone in the game who seems to be responsive, intelligent, mature AND also happens to be doing the same thing as me then I might team up with them to get something done and may communicate with them later on. However as games like WoW are like single player games its rare for me to encounter someone on my travels who just happens to be the same level as me or at the same part of the single player style story. I tend to just play these games solo most of the time and only group up for doing dungeon runs. Sometimes a few of those people appear to be decent and can make the game more enjoyable but thats just a bonus. I certainly dont expect or depend on meeting good people to make my gaming experience enjoyable. I dont play MMOs to make virtual friends. I already have real life ones. You say you're in an adult guild though? Well then that should be fine. Just play the game with them and ignore the faceless masses around you. You feel like you're in a virtual school playground? Well thats because you ARE in one. Thats MMOs for you. Simplistic easy computer games that require no intelligence or thinking to play = lots of immature players.

    But yeah you will always see an endless stream of dumb shit in any general chat channel. I'm currently playing Fallen Earth and its the same there as well. The games setting is totally irrelevant. The help channel is a place where all the retards gather. I finally closed it and dont have it open any more because I kept looking down and reading one stupid comment after another. There are still morons who talk crap in regional chat too though but there are less of them so they are less intrusive.

    Basicly people suck. They always have done and they always will. Welcome to the human race. The only way you can control the types of people you mingle with is by going to places and doing things that are exclusive to those types of people. Are computer games exclusive to mature, sensible adults? Hell no! Computer games are for everyone but they are probably more geared towards younger people. Also if a game is stupid then it will probably attract stupid people......which is why most mmos are full to the brim with prats. On top of that everything is anonimous so people can say and do whatever they like. There basicly isnt anything you can do about it except just put up with it or ignore it. You want an adult only server? Well isnt that what a RP server is supposed to be? Yep it doesnt work does it. Basicly the game cant moderate people and their behaviour. It would be great if it could but unfortunately it cant........and even if it could somehow prevent children from playing on a certain server it still wouldnt be able to stop childish and rude behaviour.

  • BelliseBellise Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Comnitus

    Originally posted by tanoril

    Originally posted by ethion


    I think the new lfguild tool will help.  It will let guilds put an age limit on members and allow guilds to enforce themselves a bit better.  So a guild can set base rules, members must be 25+ and mature players.  So people looking for guilds when they see that requirement will know it isn't the guild for them.  Guilds can do this now but they don't have a prefilter like the lf guild tool will provide.
    Course ultimately it's the guild's responsibility to maintain the maturity of their members.  Generally guilds with age limits do work very well for maintaining a mature community.
    Be kinda nice if wow had a player profile that had some sort of rating system.  ie if someone is immature acting players could lower their rating.  Get below the baseline rating and you can't rate people.  You can only give out a rating once per hour or something time base to prevent abuse.  You can only negatively rate people.  People with no complaints will slowly return to a neutral rating.  Maybe the profile would be something any player can inspect. 

     

    What makes you think age will stop immaturity?  You think it's only teenagers that act like an idiot?  You be surprised how many of these people are old enough to be your father/mother.  As far as the profile thing you mentioned, I honestly don't think people care enough to look up such things.  Most guilds invite not because of how mature you are (although there are some) but how well geared you are and how well you can pull your own weight.  At the end of the day it's a game, not a Miss Manners contest.

     

    Welcome to the internet.

    And suck it up.

    The Internet gives you one thing: anonymity. That means you can act like an idiot all you want (like you can't do in real life) and you're shrouded behind a veil of secrecy. Few people know who you really are; all they know is how you act. That kind of power tempts everybody. Once they figure it out, even "mature adults" can break down and decide they want to have some fun they never can otherwise. So, no, it's NOT AN AGE ISSUE.

    I've met plenty of "kids" who type in coherent sentences and refrain from stupid jokes. I've met plenty of adults who type with 13375P34K and blather on about Chuck Norris, Murlocs and "Anal Kill Shot" in Trade chat.

    As for Guilds, they do look at geared and your skill level, but most (sane) ones won't put up with immature bullcrap. That's a good thing. Even if you're the best player ever, I know my Guild would kick you if you were a loot whore, stuck-up, nedraging all the time, always swore or thought you were cool because you used those lame jokes mentioned above, or gave the Guild a bad rep. My GM loves /gkick; I swear it's like crack for him sometimes.

     

    This. Everyone should just read this and think about it until they can understand that it's not an age issue.

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