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World of Warcraft: Top 5 Things Coming In WoW Patch 3.3

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  • luciusETRURluciusETRUR Member Posts: 442
    Originally posted by Hives

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr



     



    Cross-Server Battlegrounds killed part of the community.

     

    PvP Ladder... really? Arena? Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's so new.

    Cross-Server Dungeons? Man, who cares about the community, anymore, you are right!

    I love when people start arguing about a game that they can stop playing at anytime so if you are complaining and still playing... You are a FOOL!. I still play the game and yes they borrowed features from other games and improved on them but feel free to go play EQ,DAOC or even UO because we all know they didn't screw those up. HA..

    Uh.. well that would make sense if I still was playing WoW. Turns out, I have no account anymore and zero desire to play it ever again.

     

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662
    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Hives

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr



     



    Cross-Server Battlegrounds killed part of the community.

     

    PvP Ladder... really? Arena? Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's so new.

    Cross-Server Dungeons? Man, who cares about the community, anymore, you are right!

    I love when people start arguing about a game that they can stop playing at anytime so if you are complaining and still playing... You are a FOOL!. I still play the game and yes they borrowed features from other games and improved on them but feel free to go play EQ,DAOC or even UO because we all know they didn't screw those up. HA..

    Uh.. well that would make sense if I still was playing WoW. Turns out, I have no account anymore and zero desire to play it ever again.

     

     

    Yet you get a twinkle in your eye whenever you see a new post about your beloved WoW and can't help but to give it a bump.....how grand of you. You played it, you enjoyed it, you grew tired of it, you move on......what other reason do you have to harp?

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by witchboy


     "suppose it needs to be an official in game feature though, finally. I know many people view WoW as the innovator in MMOs. I disagree here. WoW really did not do anything insanely creative with their game. They simply took the best ideas that were out there, packaged them better than anyone else and built a game that had a smooth play system. WoW was built on the backs of Ultima, EverQuest,  and Dark Age Of Camelot"
     
    I've been saying this for 5 years, and  everyone who had played an MMO previous to wow, turned a blind eye. Blizz didn't do anything new. They NEVER have. they just change the way it worked. 
     
    and Blizz claimed to "Innovate inventory." 
     
    and people believed them... 

     

    Honestly the only people I hear complain about blizzard and innovation are people hating on wow.  Most everyone else just says they enjoy wow, which is usually followed by nerd rage about how blizzard didn't create anything new. 

     

    Perhaps blizzrd revolutionize game mechanics, but I don't recall anyone at blizzard claiming they did.   They certainly helped forward the thinking that a game should be polished, fun first, cater to more than one niche crowd and doesn't have to needlessly punish players in order to deliver good gameplay. 

     

    As for the top 5 list, I wish games would not use directional helpers and waypoint in quests.  Doing a better job with the story and overland map would do the trick.  The more features that are implemented to automate quests the less important the story and world becomes.  This is something I dislike very much in other games and wish it would go away.  Running between preprogammed points on a map just to get some xp isn't questing.  That is more like running tasks.  Next we will see quest target NPCs flash when you get near them.  Oh well.

     

    The cross server LFG system looks pretty cool though.

     

  • luciusETRURluciusETRUR Member Posts: 442
    Originally posted by Ramonski7

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Hives

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr



     



    Cross-Server Battlegrounds killed part of the community.

     

    PvP Ladder... really? Arena? Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's so new.

    Cross-Server Dungeons? Man, who cares about the community, anymore, you are right!

    I love when people start arguing about a game that they can stop playing at anytime so if you are complaining and still playing... You are a FOOL!. I still play the game and yes they borrowed features from other games and improved on them but feel free to go play EQ,DAOC or even UO because we all know they didn't screw those up. HA..

    Uh.. well that would make sense if I still was playing WoW. Turns out, I have no account anymore and zero desire to play it ever again.

     

     

    Yet you get a twinkle in your eye whenever you see a new post about your beloved WoW and can't help but to give it a bump.....how grand of you. You played it, you enjoyed it, you grew tired of it, you move on......what other reason do you have to harp?

    You don't like it when people make good points about your game? I'm sorry. I don't understand what you mean.. why harp? Yes, I enjoyed and I didn't grow tired of what I enjoyed, that isn't part of the game anymore. Thanks.

     

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221

    Yes, most people enjoy WOW and those that do not suffer from nerd rage. 

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Yes, most people enjoy WOW and those that do not suffer from nerd rage. 

     

    Plenty of people from plenty of games nerd rage.  Don't be obtuse.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Yes, most people enjoy WOW and those that do not suffer from nerd rage. 

     

    Plenty of people from plenty of games nerd rage.  Don't be obtuse.

    Just quoting your previous post.

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662
    Originally posted by luciusETRUR


    "..One of the biggest improvements in Wrath of the Lich King was more involved storytelling,..."
     
    Oddly enough, this what ruined the game for me. Even in Burning Crusade, when they tried to tell the story directly, the game just seemed to get worse. The lore was really cool.. now it's terrible. 
     
    Edit: OK, maybe not what ruined the game, but the lore, there's a lot of crap that ruined the game.

     

    This is the harping I was talking about. Out of all the things I can think of that Blizzard screwed up......lore is the furthest thing from my mind. As a matter of fact it's one of THE top reasons people took to it so well. Burning Crusade took a central character from it's series and gave backstory on how things like death knights, the burning legion, the naga and the blood elves came to be. Death Knights, which served as the catalysis for the next chapter/expansion, were introduced in one of the most interactive intros I've witnessed so far, even surpassing the ones in Lotro and AoC for me.

     

    I enjoyed it, but that's my point. To each his own. But to harp on the one thing that is the foundation of ANY mmo and think in any way shape or form that it ruined the game is a bit of a stretch.

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  • luciusETRURluciusETRUR Member Posts: 442
    Originally posted by Ramonski7

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR


    "..One of the biggest improvements in Wrath of the Lich King was more involved storytelling,..."
     
    Oddly enough, this what ruined the game for me. Even in Burning Crusade, when they tried to tell the story directly, the game just seemed to get worse. The lore was really cool.. now it's terrible. 
     
    Edit: OK, maybe not what ruined the game, but the lore, there's a lot of crap that ruined the game.

     

    This is the harping I was talking about. Out of all the things I can think of that Blizzard screwed up......lore is the furthest thing from my mind. As a matter of fact it's one of THE top reasons people took to it so well. Burning Crusade took a central character from it's series and gave backstory on how things like death knights, the burning legion, the naga and the blood elves came to be. Death Knights, which served as the catalysis for the next chapter/expansion, were introduced in one of the most interactive intros I've witnessed so far, even surpassing the ones in Lotro and AoC for me.

     

    I enjoyed it, but that's my point. To each his own. But to harp on the one thing that is the foundation of ANY mmo and think in any way shape or form that it ruined the game is a bit of a stretch.

    WC3 had great story, and I thought the fact that WoW Classic didn't have a huge story behind it, made it feel more immersive. The Warcraft III story really has been destroyed recently. You can make an argument for the Burning Crusade being a decent story, I won't argue with you there, I think it's a decent enough story for Warcraft.

     

    However, Arthas was a character I liked, how he turned evil from being so foolish. Then, comes the book Arthas. No, he wasn't evil! It was that silly sword! He made Arthas do all that, no wait! Arthas is keeping the Lich King from destroying Azeroth, that's it! Bolvar is now lava man and the Lich King can't break his will. So exciting. So, very exciting.

    No, I think Chris Metzen asked Christie Golden to ruin WC3, because that story was just too cool for this universe. (That's sarcasm, BTW)

    I loved WarCraft. Of course I am going to be interested, I've played since WarCraft: Orcs & Humans.. back then there was no story, then in WC2 and WC3, the story really took off. Now.. now we have this... a Lich King being restrained by Arthas and Lavaman.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Yes, most people enjoy WOW and those that do not suffer from nerd rage. 

     

    Plenty of people from plenty of games nerd rage.  Don't be obtuse.

    Just quoting your previous post.

     

    No, you either lack the ability to read written words or intentionally misquote people in an effort to get some reaction you want.

    I won't bother you with more words that explain exactly what was said, because I know it is wasted on you and everyone else understood what was said.  Have a nice day.

     

     

     

     

  • Spamalot345Spamalot345 Member Posts: 118

    If existing shoulderpads have not been enlarged, or the ability to put extra shoulderpads on top of your existing shoulderpads has not been introduced there is really nothing to talk about.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    Replace the #3. Quest tracking feature with the new LFG system.

    Why?  Most people already use plugins to do exactly what blizzard is going to do in the next patch.  We have been for a very long time, so no.. not many of us are looking forward to a feature we already have been using just because its not integrated into the game.

     

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  • kanishka101kanishka101 Member Posts: 1

    I agree with the previous poster - Tier 10 looks like some kid drew the pattern, very boring and unispiring.

    Personally I hate the new blizzard concept of 10 man normal and 10 man heroic, same for 25 man version and so many Tiers - T9, T9.25, T 9.5.

    Stick to basic and let us enjoy the lore instead of competing with ninjas in the game.

    Talking about ninja, blizzard you seriously need to step up and penalize these ninjas. There are many on our servers who form raid groups and ninja Fragments, Mounts, orbs and many other items. Then they change their race, class and name, start the ninja deals all over again.

    Pathetic....do something.....I heard MW2 is really good...

     

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Yes, most people enjoy WOW and those that do not suffer from nerd rage. 

     

    Plenty of people from plenty of games nerd rage.  Don't be obtuse.

    Just quoting your previous post.

     

    No, you either lack the ability to read written words or intentionally misquote people in an effort to get some reaction you want.

    I won't bother you with more words that explain exactly what was said, because I know it is wasted on you and everyone else understood what was said.  Have a nice day.

     

     

     

     

    Misquote? We both know what you wrote and as you put it, so does everyone else. Just as everyone knows you are owned by Blizzard and a difference of opinion about your beloved holy grail of games is the one thing you will not tolerate.

  • Zeref.DyverZeref.Dyver Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


    Our discussion above ... and 90% of the reactions of the active players of WOW -, show the OP was completely wrong in the mediocre top 5 of new things in patch 3.3.
    In fact the cross server dungeons will simply allow 24/7 group play while leveling.
    A MUCH heard critcism was always ... you level solo in WOW, well NO longer after patch 3.3.
    And it goes MUCH way beyond a new LFG tool (it works perfectly with the PUG mechanics in filling up the open places in an automated way).
    Say you want to do a dungeon but only your 2 mates are up: you enter as a group and the other 2 places are auto filled up with the necessary tank.healer.dps places. And YES --- in the end game that will mean waiting time of 30 seconds or less ...to group up.
    ---- NEW ---
    It is very comparable with the BG's pop up's, also cross server btw. So it allows very much 24/7 play with YOUR friends when YOU have the time.
    ---- Realm ---
    In Cata it will be supplemented with a GUILD ranking leveling both in PVE and PVP, so for those haters wanting to jump in with "it will kill Realm pride"..
    Simply too late, since Blizzard already thought of it with the new Guild leveling system in PvP and PVE.
     
    NOW THAT'S news about Patch 3.3.... instead of those pathetic points of the OP.
     
     

     

    Lol now I know why you have so many posts, you basically post the same thing, worded differently, over and over and over and over again.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by grandpagamer 
    Misquote? We both know what you wrote and as you put it, so does everyone else. Just as everyone knows you are owned by Blizzard and a difference of opinion about your beloved holy grail of games is the one thing you will not tolerate.

     

    Cool story bro. 

  • dalestaines1dalestaines1 Member Posts: 107

    Fine read of things we already know about, but the paragraph of WoW history with a timeline of MMOs didn't fit and was utterly useless and too brief to hold accuracy.  Anyone wanting the history should visit a WoW wiki page where that's talked about in depth.

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  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by tsukts


    What about LFG System? Its not coming in the next patch?:( That was the thing i was looking forward for to get some life back into the classic WoW dungeons thats impossible to find group for on a single server.



     

    What about the New PvP areas? and BG?

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer 
    Misquote? We both know what you wrote and as you put it, so does everyone else. Just as everyone knows you are owned by Blizzard and a difference of opinion about your beloved holy grail of games is the one thing you will not tolerate.

     

    Cool story bro. 

    I know lots of stories. Someday I will tell you one about the guy who thought the world hung on his every word and in the end the world just hung him.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


    Patch 3.3 is the final major content patch for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King. Three new 5 man dungeon and a new 10/25 man raid will be introduced at the Icecrown Citadel, along with a ton of other changes to the game.
     Table of ContentsPatch 3.3 Information


    Patch 3.3 PTR Patch Notes - Updated

    Class Changes

    Details of the Changes

    Icecrown Citadel 5-man

    Icecrown Citadel Raid 

    ...

    Revision History

     Class Changes

    Ghostcrawler has said previously that class changes coming out for the rest of Wrath of the Lich King will not be as extreme as they were in Patch 3.1. Patch 3.2 didn't have very many, and Patch 3.3 has even less.
    Details Of The other Changes


    The final patch notes for patch 3.3 (when they're released) will only tell part of the story about the patch. There are countless things that are not included in the notes, and the ways in which the changes affect the rest of the game are numerous.
    Take a look at our coverage of the details of the changes, and send us a tip with anything you'd like investigated further.


    Achievements and World Events

    Love is in the Air Valentine's event may get a new boss

    New UI function lists completed quests

    New and updated achievements on the PTR

    Patch 3.3 PTR: The latest achievement changes

    Area-of-effect damage cap change

    Build 10571 details, including Tier 10 relics

    Easing the curve for beginners

    New Tauren skins found

    Instances and Raiding

    A look at the Raid Browser

    Consolidate buffs and debuffs in the default UI

    Disenchanting as a loot option ...


    Disenchanting in dungeons in patch 3.3

    Emblems of Triumph to be the new base emblems

    Icecrown 5-player dungeon maps


    Icecrown raid difficulty to be set on a per-boss basis ....

    Icecrown to introduce new hard mode toggles ....


    Luck of the Draw buffs you for pugging ....
    Meeting stones for all ....


    New LFG interface


    New Looking for Raid interface


    New weekly quests to do while raiding


    Oculus receives a welcome nerf


    Patch 3.3: Just run as many heroics as you want


    Quel'Delar and the new Icecrown instances

    Stone Keeper's Shards tied to your realm


    Target marking, the end of lowbie raids, and other UI tweaks

    Teleporting in and out of instances

    The indomitable LFG chat channel


    Ulduar drakes not being removed (yet)

    Items

    Behold Quel'Delar

    Blizzard unveils Tier 10

    Emblem of Frost gear revealed

    Emblems of Triumph to be the new base emblems

    Haris Pilton's got a brand new bag

    Quel'Delar and the new Icecrown instances

    Quel'Delar weapon stats revealed

    Shadownmourne spell details

    Shaman Tier 10

    Tier 10 armor set gallery

    Tier 10 set bonuses

    Invincible mount

    Jaina gets a makeover

    Lore

    Lich King animation found

    NPCs hint at events of Icecrown instances

    The fate of Bolvar Fordragon

    The importance of the Wrathgate story in Icecrown Citadel


    Why are Northshire wolves getting sick? ....

    New official Jaina and Sylvanas character bios

    New UI function lists completed quests


    New Quest tracking feature

    Officers' Quarters: Patch 3.3 -- An officer's perspective

    Potential new spirit beast

    Professions


    Arctic Fur is less annoying, vendor purchased

    Craftable nature resist gear

    Disenchanting in dungeons in patch 3.3

    Kalu'ak Fishing Derby details

    Kalu'ak Fishing Derby details (additional)

    PvP Battlegrounds & Arenas changes

    Nameplate visibility tweaks

    Report lag option added to the default UI

    WoW moves towards shorter cooldowns
    ----- The above as a sidenote to the OP----------
    I think you missed about 120 points on this gigantic patch....
    Perhaps  someone needs to do his homework again (before getting paid ...).
     



     

    Oh Shit,,,,,What going to happen to Bolvar? The whole death from the plague thing was a big Lore Bender, but I wonder whats going to happen

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by grandpagamer 
    I know lots of stories. Someday I will tell you one about the guy who thought the world hung on his every word and in the end the world just hung him.

     

    Sounds like a great story.  I hope everyone enjoys it.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by grandpagamer 
    I know lots of stories. Someday I will tell you one about the guy who thought the world hung on his every word and in the end the world just hung him.

     

    Sounds like a great story.  I hope everyone enjoys it.

     

    Well we are getting there. It seems Blizz must not pay you by the word, so I assume you are on salary?

  • abyss610abyss610 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by luciusETRUR

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr




    "I know many people view WoW as the innovator in MMOs. I disagree here. WoW really did not do anything insanely creative with their game. They simply took the best ideas that were out there, packaged them better than anyone else and built a game that had a smooth play system. WoW was built on the backs of Ultima, EverQuest, and Dark Age of Camelot. All of the good ideas from these games were filtered and added into Warcraft from day one. "



    Finally! Someone that doesn't have their head shoved so far up Blizzard's butt that they can actually see the light of day! I am so sick of hearing WoW did this and WoW did that. Finally someone else that agrees with me on this point.



    Nice article although the whiny, over-dramatic WoW fanboys will find fault with it I'm sure.



     

    And it is a NICE proof how silly mmorpg editors have become.

    NOT talking about a revolutionary new cross server dungeon implementation in patch 3.3 but resorting to OLD HAT and very silly  arguments of WHO invented WHAT and at which time...of GAMES already dead .... YEARS ago.

    The only thing lacking in the article is references to Mac Donalds and Britney Spears.

    The article didn't even cite the MOST important introduced factor in WOW since the clustered BG's and ladder based PvP system: the cross server dungeons.

    Welcome to mmorpg.com: the dead site about dead discussions.

    Cross-Server Battlegrounds killed part of the community.

     

    PvP Ladder... really? Arena? Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's so new.

    Cross-Server Dungeons? Man, who cares about the community, anymore, you are right!



     

    i have to agree here with the cross server comment (kinda sorta) back before the cross server bgs. you actually recognized your enemy, and sometimes seemed to be your ONE nemisis in every BG. I remember one very ANNOYING priest that would run into a group and fear bomb everytime, i started making it a point to feral charge him everytime i seen him to force him to burn it up in the back line rather than in a mass group of us. but after the Xservers i never seemed to see that priest anymore i still had fun in there but wasn't the same.

    but i did see why they did it, prior to the xservers it would take hours to get into a BG on my server. i remembered waiting close to 4 hours or more sometimes to get in an AV. one time i waited like 3.5 hours and REALLY had to use the restroom, ran pissed r/q came back and i had missed the que, was soo mad..lol

  • leroysgleroysg Member UncommonPosts: 97

    By Garrett Fuller   "World of Warcraft Patch 3.3 is the last patch of the Wrath of the Lich King expansion before the game changes forever with Cataclysm. Although, with the coming expansion, one cannot help but wonder if this loot will still be worth the effort in a few months. Blizzard has made this mistake with the original Naxxramus release when they launched it just a few months before Burning Crusade came out. Players basically ignored the content in favor of the expansion, which had better gear that overshadowed that found in Naxxramus. Hopefully, Blizzard learned their lesson."

     

    i don't think Blizz learned their lession since

     

     

    5. Shadowmourne (two-handed axe)

    ooh ok...so? it looks very normal, non-epic to me. Taken off from some old design of yours, blizz.

     

    4. Tier 10 Armor Sets

    please stop your lazy bum bum / ran our of idea works here. ever since T6...the rest of  T-armor are almost crap, the worst crap ever created from you, Blizz is your WoTLK armor design.

     

    3. Quest Tracking Feature:

    LOLMAO...joke of the year. Blizz, ya been sleeping/hiding all these years???

     

    2. New Five Man Dungeons

    nothing new to YEAH about. sounds more like for those  whinners / carebears which you Blizz design/care for them.

     

    1. The Lich King

    prolly this is the only thing ppl are looking forward since the launch of WoTLK. BUT!!! worth doing it or not? Well, your Catalysm expansion coming out soon anytime round the corner. If there's a ending CG video after LK is down, prolly this is the only thing ppl may most interest in. Else invalid and waste of time till your Catalysm launch. (history back itself, Classic - BTC)

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by grandpagamer 
     
    Well we are getting there. It seems Blizz must not pay you by the word, so I assume you are on salary?

     

    Don't ask me, it is your story.  Get as creative as you want.

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